[luau] Re: LUAU digest, Vol 1 #944 - 4 msgs
> Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 00:01:03 -1000 > From: Vince Hoang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [luau] Postfix Question > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2003 at 05:13:54PM -1000, Maddog wrote: > > I have a small problem with Postfix. I installed it on a Fedora > > Core 1 system and I can telnet in and send email all day but > > when I try to send myself email from my Exchange server it > > comes back days later with a failed to connect message. > > Simple. Stop using Exchange. :) > > > The log files do not show any connection attempts. > > But the logs should give more clues. > I checked the log file with tail - /var/log/maillog. I monitored the log aas I sent the other mail and there are literally no connection attempts from the exchange server. I can telnet into the Postfix box and it delivers that mail and I get the logwatch mails from the system everyday, no connection attempts there either. I checked all the other logs as well with no luck. > > below is the main.cf file. Can anyone help me with this? DNS is > > resolving the host mail.shidler.net. I can ping the host and do > > an nslookup and it comes back to the IP addy. > > > > #myhostname = test-email.tsg.com <- Internal Domain > > myhostname = mail.shidler.net <--- Internet Domain name > > Do you literally have the garbage at the end of the hostname? > That should freak out the postfix configuratino parser. > Vince, No I do not literally have that stuff in the config file I just put it in there as an added explanation for the list. I'd like to think I learned something from your class. :-) > -Vince > > Maddog > --__--__-- > > ___ > LUAU mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau > > > End of LUAU Digest --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.555 / Virus Database: 347 - Release Date: 12/24/2003
Re: [luau] RoadRunner or EarthLink?
Thanx for the input. Actually I have switched from RR to Earthlink about a couple of weeks ago. All I needed to do, "essentially", was to go to Ala Moana Center and exchange my old cable modem (I was one of the first RR subscribers) for a newer one. As you mentioned, Earthlink claims to have a higher maximum speed (thus, necessitating the need for the modem upgrade), but I really couldn't tell. The only reason for my switch is that, at the same or a little cheaper cost, Earthlink also gives me a worldwide (including mainland, China, Taiwan, Japan, etc.) dial-up account. To me, this is invaluable. Everything can be done over the phone. But there is one caveat: you have to at least once log in as root to allow Earthlink to update your DNS. Of course, you can always change them mannually as I did, but you have to call Earthlink to get those numbers. Windows users won't have this problem--if your house is not locked, you don't need the key. Windows should be banned for broadband use. This is an excellent example. wayne J. David Beutel wrote: I've ordered EarthLink. It's a little cheaper than RoadRunner, claims a higher maximum speed, and looks more server-friendly. The Oceanic person who took my order had never heard of "Linux", but she transfered me to a techie who told me that EarthLink provides a dynamic global IP and doesn't mind if I run Linux, servers, or NAT (altho they don't provide support for that). (I won't be using it commercially or sending spam.) The install is scheduled for next month, so I'll post again if I have any problems. Cheers, 11011011 On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: A friend was asking whether to subscribe RoadRunner or EarthLink. I remember this subject was discussed before. Does anyone care to comment? Thanks. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau .
Re: [luau] RoadRunner or EarthLink?
BTW, I have noticed that Oceanic seems to give me a fixed IP address. I don't think this is specific to Earthlink (but never bothered to find out when I was with RR). Does anyone know anything about this? Again, Windows should be banned from consumer broadband use. Windows+broadband+24/7, and we have a cybernatic time bomb in every house. wayne
Re: [luau] RoadRunner or EarthLink?
When back in Georgia earlier this year, I helped a friend set up his earthlink dsl connection. It is important to note that the DSL modem used by earthlink is actually a router. It holds the public ip address and issues a 192.x.x.x address to your computer(s.) They use pppoe and the router cannot be altered to operate as a bridge. I believe that earthlink is only offering cable service here so far, so this point is currently moot. On the subject of cable/dsl modems being routers: During the last few months, all of my dsl orders with Verizon have been set up on ATMs rather than Frames. Verizon has also begun issuing Westell 2200 modems with new orders whether you are your own ISP (our case) or if you are using someone else. The 2200 modem is different than the previous 2100 series because it too is a router. Out of the box is set up to work in a pppoe environment, it is set up to handle NAT, it has a web server (this is how it is configured), it can be a DHCP server, and it has a configurable firewall that creates logs. It is dangerous. It can configured to act only as a bridge, but this is not the default setting. Username = admin, password = password, or was it admin? --scott
Re: [luau] RoadRunner or EarthLink?
I have noticed that RR will periodically change the IP # and on Windoz sys you must un-power the router, if you use one, then bring it back up to refresh. Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: BTW, I have noticed that Oceanic seems to give me a fixed IP address. I don't think this is specific to Earthlink (but never bothered to find out when I was with RR). Does anyone know anything about this? Again, Windows should be banned from consumer broadband use. Windows+broadband+24/7, and we have a cybernatic time bomb in every house. wayne ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin Speaking to reporters, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld admitted as much, saying, "Sometimes the truth is so precious it must be accompanied by a bodyguard of lies." "Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war." Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld
Re: [luau] RoadRunner or EarthLink?
R. Scott Belford wrote: When back in Georgia earlier this year, I helped a friend set up his earthlink dsl connection. It is important to note that the DSL modem used by earthlink is actually a router. It holds the public ip address and issues a 192.[168].x.x address to your computer(s.) They use pppoe and the router cannot be altered to operate as a bridge. I believe that earthlink is only offering cable service here so far, so this point is currently moot. --scott As I mentioned earlier, I was quite disturbed to find out that my cable modem has a fix IP address of 66.xxx.xxx.xxx. I turned off my Linksys router a few times, the ip address stays the same. However, I have had this new ip address for only two weeks. Perhaps it was too short for Oceanic to change it, and I will be really anxious to find out. I don't want a fix ip address to go into my house. Period. Many security-conscientious Windows users bought a router to serve as an external firewall. But 99% of them don't change the default password. So much for the hightened security. This reminds of the new Office 2003, which allows a 500 MB Word file to be loaded in one second. When someone tells you that s/he can travel faster than the speed of light, you will begin to wonder whether that is true. wayne
Re: [luau] RoadRunner or EarthLink?
Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: As I mentioned earlier, I was quite disturbed to find out that my cable modem has a fix IP address of 66.xxx.xxx.xxx. I turned off my Linksys router a few times, the ip address stays the same. However, I have had this new ip address for only two weeks. Perhaps it was too short for Oceanic to change it, and I will be really anxious to find out. I don't want a fix ip address to go into my house. Period. Many security-conscientious Windows users bought a router to serve as an external firewall. But 99% of them don't change the default password. So much for the hightened security. I personally liked having a fixed IP for months at a time because it is a hassle to change it for the things that I do... and changing the IP address seems to be as simple as changing the MAC address and power cycling the cable modem. Strangely changing the MAC address back then power cycling the cable modem always brought it back to the original IP address. Warren
Re: [luau] RoadRunner or EarthLink?
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003, Warren Togami wrote: > a hassle to change it for the things that I do... and changing the IP > address seems to be as simple as changing the MAC address and power > cycling the cable modem. > > Strangely changing the MAC address back then power cycling the cable > modem always brought it back to the original IP address. > There really is nothing strange about it, that's the way DHCP is supposed to work. When a computer requests an IP address, the way in which the server should reply is specified in the RFCs. If the computer requests a specific IP and that IP is both available and within the scope of the server, the server must reply with that IP. If computer does not request a specific IP or the IP requested is not available/within server scope, the server should return the last IP that the server had assigned to that MAC address if available/within scope. If the computer's previous IP is unavailable, or the server has no record of the MAC address being used, then I can assign any available IP within it's scope. Most of the better dhcp servers will not issue an IP that it has marked as having been used to a new computer until all possible 'never used' IP's have been exhausted, in which case it will reissue IP's based on which has been unused for the longest amount of time. The only time a computer will get a IP other than what it previously had is if there are more devices than there are available IP's, or the scope of available IP's on the dhcp server changes. The only way to really force a change of IP is to change the MAC address of the device requesting the IP. This will make the dhcp server think it's a new computer and issue a new IP. When you change the MAC address back to to the previous MAC, the server should recognize it as a previous client and try to reissue the old IP. Jeff
Re: [luau] RoadRunner or EarthLink?
Warren Togami wrote: I personally liked having a fixed IP Now, suppose your first name is Joe or Jane, have a fixed IP, always run your computer either as root (Win98/WinME) or as a non-root user but with a root-like privilege (Win2K/WinXP), and your are connected to the internet either without a firewall or with a firewall whose password is known to everyone on earth, do you feel comfortable? You probably will slit your belly! (Today is Wednesday, and there is always a hangover from having watched too much Miyamoto Musashi the night b4.) Windows should be banned from consumer broadband users. wayne
[luau] Earthlink or Roadrunner? -- static IP addresses?
Aloha, I too noticed the "fixed" IP address phenomenon when I used RR. I haven't used my new ISP here long enough to tell if it works the same as RR did but... It occurs to me that if you leave a router/firewall up 24/7, then the DHCP client will continue to renew the IP address that was originally issued. My personal experience is that I never got a different IP address unless my box was off line long enough for the lease to expire and have that IP address reissued to another client. So my IP address stayed relatively fixed, but I wouldn't call it a staic IP. Mele Kalikimaka, Ben
RE: [luau] RoadRunner or EarthLink?
I believe Earthlink is somewhat faster, at least in some areas. The have new news group servers One set for those west of the missisipi and another for the east) that allow you to download large files at Google search result speeds. I could not believe how fast these files download. I strongly urge everyone I meet to go with Earthlink, mainly because we need to foster the competition. If enough people go with with Earthlink, in theory prices should go down... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hawaii Linux Institute Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2003 7:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [luau] RoadRunner or EarthLink? Thanx for the input. Actually I have switched from RR to Earthlink about a couple of weeks ago. All I needed to do, "essentially", was to go to Ala Moana Center and exchange my old cable modem (I was one of the first RR subscribers) for a newer one. As you mentioned, Earthlink claims to have a higher maximum speed (thus, necessitating the need for the modem upgrade), but I really couldn't tell. The only reason for my switch is that, at the same or a little cheaper cost, Earthlink also gives me a worldwide (including mainland, China, Taiwan, Japan, etc.) dial-up account. To me, this is invaluable. Everything can be done over the phone. But there is one caveat: you have to at least once log in as root to allow Earthlink to update your DNS. Of course, you can always change them mannually as I did, but you have to call Earthlink to get those numbers. Windows users won't have this problem--if your house is not locked, you don't need the key. Windows should be banned for broadband use. This is an excellent example. wayne J. David Beutel wrote: >I've ordered EarthLink. It's a little cheaper than RoadRunner, claims a >higher maximum speed, and looks more server-friendly. The Oceanic person >who took my order had never heard of "Linux", but she transfered me to a >techie who told me that EarthLink provides a dynamic global IP and doesn't >mind if I run Linux, servers, or NAT (altho they don't provide support for >that). (I won't be using it commercially or sending spam.) > >The install is scheduled for next month, so I'll post again if I have any >problems. > >Cheers, >11011011 > >On Tue, 2 Dec 2003, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: > > > >>A friend was asking whether to subscribe RoadRunner or EarthLink. I >>remember this subject was discussed before. Does anyone care to >>comment? Thanks. >> >> > >___ >LUAU mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau > >. > > > ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] More Postfix
Ok I figured out the problem. I needed to have $myhostname = test-email.tsg.com and $Mydomain = tsg.com I can now send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it works fine. Problem I am having is that i don't understand how the virtual domains work. Do I make an entry in the aliases file? Is there a file I create i.e. file/name with virtual domain entries or si there a file existing that I edit? It also states in the MAN pages something about editing the mydestination in main.cf but I had no luck there either. I think I am just not understanding what it says in the MAN pages. Can someone be so kind as to clarify or give me an example of what it is I am trying to do? I want to be able to receive mail at foo.com so in mydestination I am using the following: mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain Do I then just add localhost.foo.com? or is there another way? Thanks, MaddogOwner/Program DirectorMaddog Rock Radiowww.heavymetalradio.net "Proud to be poser free"www.heavycore.org