Re: [LUAU] VC and Linux

2004-04-23 Thread Virgil Vergara

Hi Wayne,

You must be talking about Verizon right? Verifone has no ties to 
Hawaii. They are the world's largest telecom with stakes in several 
European countries, South America and in Japan. I don't even think 
Verifone has any kind of market in the US.


There are a few companies that are receiving attention within the VC 
field. Mainly with biotechnology. Two companies that are doing well are 
Hoku Scientific and Hawaii Biotech. There are others as well.


Virgil

On Thursday, April 22, 2004, at 12:37  PM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:

BTW, most participants in this forum are probably too young or too new 
to have heard the story about Verifone.  This is the biggest IP 
success story in Hawaii.  Verifone grew too big and had to be sold to 
a mainland company for something like 9-digit figure.  I know some of 
the founders of Verifone, many of them still live on the island and 
many are still actively pursuing VC activities.  Several of them 
invested in a company called Aquasearch, which makes microalgae and 
got into a very nasty patent fight with its next door neighbor, 
Cyantech.


Eventually Aquasearch filed for bankruptcy, and Cyantech did not fare 
too well, either.  Both companies had great technologies and are in 
one of the most promissing markets, but they had to try to fight each 
other to death.


Anyway, I know getting a decent paycheck is priority No. 1, but if we 
ourselves can't think too much about the VC business, we sure hope 
someone else on the islands will make it, and make it big.  wayne


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Re: [LUAU] VC and Linux

2004-04-23 Thread Matthew John Darnell
Nope, he meant Verifone.

-Matt


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 Hi Wayne,

 You must be talking about Verizon right? Verifone has no ties to
 Hawaii. They are the world's largest telecom with stakes in several
 European countries, South America and in Japan. I don't even think
 Verifone has any kind of market in the US.

 There are a few companies that are receiving attention within the VC
 field. Mainly with biotechnology. Two companies that are doing well are
 Hoku Scientific and Hawaii Biotech. There are others as well.

 Virgil

 On Thursday, April 22, 2004, at 12:37  PM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:

  BTW, most participants in this forum are probably too young or too new
  to have heard the story about Verifone.  This is the biggest IP
  success story in Hawaii.  Verifone grew too big and had to be sold to
  a mainland company for something like 9-digit figure.  I know some of
  the founders of Verifone, many of them still live on the island and
  many are still actively pursuing VC activities.  Several of them
  invested in a company called Aquasearch, which makes microalgae and
  got into a very nasty patent fight with its next door neighbor,
  Cyantech.
 
  Eventually Aquasearch filed for bankruptcy, and Cyantech did not fare
  too well, either.  Both companies had great technologies and are in
  one of the most promissing markets, but they had to try to fight each
  other to death.
 
  Anyway, I know getting a decent paycheck is priority No. 1, but if we
  ourselves can't think too much about the VC business, we sure hope
  someone else on the islands will make it, and make it big.  wayne
 
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Re: [LUAU] VC and Linux

2004-04-23 Thread Karen Lofstrom

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Virgil Vergara wrote:

 You must be talking about Verizon right? Verifone has no ties to
 Hawaii. They are the world's largest telecom with stakes in several
 European countries, South America and in Japan. I don't even think
 Verifone has any kind of market in the US.

My ex-husband was Verifone employee #25. Joined up when they were still a
smallish company operating out of the First Insurance building
kitty-korner from the Art Academy. Then they moved out to Mililani Hi-Tech
Park and finally to the Bay Area.

-- 
Karen Lofstrom



Re: [LUAU] apt RPM

2004-04-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Thu, Apr 22, 2004 at 12:34:48PM -1000, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: 
 With regard to yum headers, I have always been thinking about
 the idea of making a tarball of all the downloaded headers/rpms
 once you have done your first update, then copy and untar the
 tarball to a new machine to save time. But since I don't have
 too many machines, this idea never sees the light. wayne

Well, if you do no want to mirror the entire repository, you can
setup a caching proxy server, point all your systems there, and
be done with it.

-Vince


Re: [LUAU] VC and Linux

2004-04-23 Thread Hawaii Linux Institute

Virgil Vergara wrote:

My apologizes to everyone especially to Wayne. You all are right about 
Verifone. Virgil


Your reply has made an otherwise boring thread interesting (and 
inspirational), and I am sure a lot of our members appreciate your comment.


I am affiliated with a VC group, which, during the bubble days, was 
capable of financing up to $100M to buy companies with established sales 
channels.


Under our current conditions, it is almost impossible to try to bring 
tech VC money to Hawaii.  What we can hope to do, I think, is to 
collectively and unselfishly build a huge Linux infrastructure (I mean 
huge), and hope that someday someone will be able to take advantage of 
this infrastructure for profitable ventures.  Of course, this is just my 
thought.  Everyone has his/her own VC ideas.


In my original post, I mentioned Google.  I visited Stanford 
University's Bill Gates Computer Laboratories in the late 1990's and 
was surprised to find out that almost everyone there was working on 
Linux.  Without Linux, Google would not have been started, and, at least 
this is what I believe, it is critical important to establish an 
environment that can foster further developments.