[LUAU] HOSEF Workshop - OSS Imaging and Printer Repair

2004-08-25 Thread R. Scott Belford
We are inviting *you* to come by the workshop on Saturday at The 
McKinley Community School for Adults from 10-2 in room 208.  If the 
parking lot is still locked, don't be fooled.  Park in the gravel 
outside of the fence and come on in.


During this time, prior to our afternoon of fun at UH, we will be 
swapping out some computers to make the lab uniform.  This is in 
preparation for a list of classes that we will soon be offering at 
McKinley.  For those of you with those mad imaging skills, this is your 
chance to participate and reciprocate.  Without your interdiction, we 
are going the way of the Ghost.  If we all follow Nathan's initiative, 
we may just wiki a great solution.


We also have a need for volunteer printer help.  We have donated a HP 
Laserjet4 to Makiki in addition to installing Mandrake on their 
machines.  The printer is doing that accordion thing on some pages.  At 
the advice of those better informed, HOSEF purchased a kit from 
fixyourownprinter.com.  The package includes a CD with instructions and 
the parts.  It does not include a little person to fix it.  Is someone 
out there willing to champion this?  It is for Makiki, and I will get 
the printer to McKinley so that the work can be done with aircon.


--scott



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Re: [LUAU] Open Source Ghosting

2004-08-25 Thread R. Scott Belford
Thanks, All, for the ideas, insight, and initiative.  Allow me to put 
some focus on our objectives so we can adequately harness all this 
expertise.  HOSEF has donated an entire lab to McKinley.  It is a 
tri-boot lab.  Win98 lite is run during the day to serve foreign 
language classes their preferred app, Rosetta Stone.  (want to be a 
winner for HOSEF, help us get this running with wine or crossover), GRUB 
is used to boot from the Terminal Server, and now that Kevin and others 
will be offering classses in the room, we have added an install of 
Debian Sarge to the mix.


We need to image the machines as needed to preserve their ability to 
serve the foreign students their windows goodies.  If we do a Linux 
install on the machines, we need to return the lab to its initial state.


Bill Musson has been kind enough to donate a copy of the venerable tool, 
Ghost.


We would love to see an OSS solution that we can share.  Michael has 
been working with Mondo/mindi.  We have a 10/100 switch, an nfs server, 
and a platform for your expertise.  We will be gathering at McKinley on 
Saturday from 10-2, prior to the UH event, and you are invited to come 
by and help.


Pending a successful OSS solution we will  be swapping out a few 
machines to make the lab uniform, (Dell Gx1) and multicast ghosting a 
known good image.


--scott

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Re: [LUAU] Open Source Ghosting

2004-08-25 Thread Tom_Gordon/RISE/HIDOE
oh wow, so thats what I need.  sysprep.  now i can avoid having a dozen 
freeze when they all discover they have conflicting host names.  missing 
link to my ltsp/partimage imaging hack!




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Actually I guess this is where my Windows Administrative knowledge will 
come
in. All ghost does Windows wise is run sysprep, sysprep is a free utility
that is part of W2k and XP. Sysprep allows you to enter License key, Net
Bios, and basically everything else that is entered during setup. So from
what we know now this would be very easy, make a hard drive image of a
windows install that had sysprep run on it, but no information entered. 
This
would give us a generic Windows install install that would be unique for
every machine it was loaded on. This would be even easier if whoever needs
the image done has a Volume License Key. So what does everyone think? Want
to do this instead of wasting money on proprietary Norton Ghost? We could 
at
least give this a try before we buy Ghost.

Nathan


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Re: [LUAU] Open Source Ghosting

2004-08-25 Thread Tom_Gordon/RISE/HIDOE
I've partimage on netbooted thin clients to do imaging for windowsxp 
partitions via ssh and nfs.  restored 7 machines in under an hour. 
hopefully partimage loses the stupid ntfs/experimental warning so it can 
be completely unattented.

parted did my ntfs resizing.  qt_parted will let you do it by manually w/ 
a gui.

Tom






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Hi,

Just a FYI for everyone in HOSEF. I spoke with Scott last week
about donating a free copy of Ghost (9.0) to HOSEF and have ordered it 
through
my corporation (Symantec). I should be able to deliver it next week.

Bill Musson

- Original Message -
From: MonMotha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 7:30 pm
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Open Source Ghosting

> 
> > 
> > there are OSS utilities that can do ftp and http install of 
> system image for 
> > Windows and *nix, but still can't re-partition during restore. 
> So, OSS 
> > utilities can do the same except resizing the partition on the fly.
> > 
> 
> Almost all filesystems commonly used on linux have a tool for 
> resizing, at least 
> growing (to my knowledge only ext2 and ReiserFS can be shrunk). 
> This could be 
> done after an initial image is written.
> 
> I guess I'm used to using Ghost to install on systems with 
> completely identical 
> hardware.  It's just been my experience that windows doesn't like 
> getting put on 
> a completely different system than it was installed on.  I guess 
> maybe MS has 
> addressed this, but I know Windows98 thinks it just had a brain 
> transplant and 
> goes completely nuts, often breaking itself in the frenzy of 
> trying to 
> "reinstall" all it's drivers.
> 
> --MonMotha
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[LUAU] HOSEF Talk-Shop

2004-08-25 Thread R. Scott Belford

Our revolving venue of OSS shop talk will be in Kapolei tonight.

From 6-8:30 we will be meeting at Chili's in Kapolei.

Chili's
590 Farrington Highway
Kapolei, HI 96707 US
808-693-8722

I will have the table for 8 reserved under HOSEF if you arrive late.

Take H-1 to the Kapolei exit and turn left.  Chili's is just there to 
your right.


--scott



Re: [LUAU] Software Freedom Day with Revolution OS

2004-08-25 Thread Brian Chee
Just please keep in mind that the "official" policy is no food or
drinkso please be consideratespills and such mean Scott and I have
to play carpet cleaners.

/brian chee

University of Hawaii ICS Dept
Advanced Network Computing Lab
1680 East West Road, POST rm 311
Honolulu, HI  96822
808-956-5797 voice, 877-284-1934 fax

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From: "R. Scott Belford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:21 AM
Subject: [LUAU] Software Freedom Day with Revolution OS


> This Saturday we will be celebrating Software Freedom Day
>
> http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/
>
> from 2:30-8 at UH's Post 127 building
>
> http://www.cis.hawaii.edu/guc/db/detail.php?id=190
>
>
> With the permission of the esteemed J.T.S. Moore, we will be showing
> Revolution OS during this time. (please reciprocate his kindness and buy
> his dvd for your library)  The prime seating is at 5.  Given a good
> turnout, we may show it at 3 and 7 as well.
>
> http://www.revolution-os.com/
>
> It is possible to eat and snack in the room, and there is outside space
> to picnic.
>
> Please invite your friends, family, or fellow techies to join us for the
> good vibe of OSS.  We will have fun.
>
> A HUGE mahalo to Brian Chee for arranging this event with HOSEF.
>
> --scott
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[LUAU] Software Freedom Day with Revolution OS

2004-08-25 Thread R. Scott Belford

This Saturday we will be celebrating Software Freedom Day

http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/

from 2:30-8 at UH's Post 127 building

http://www.cis.hawaii.edu/guc/db/detail.php?id=190


With the permission of the esteemed J.T.S. Moore, we will be showing 
Revolution OS during this time. (please reciprocate his kindness and buy 
his dvd for your library)  The prime seating is at 5.  Given a good 
turnout, we may show it at 3 and 7 as well.


http://www.revolution-os.com/

It is possible to eat and snack in the room, and there is outside space 
to picnic.


Please invite your friends, family, or fellow techies to join us for the 
good vibe of OSS.  We will have fun.


A HUGE mahalo to Brian Chee for arranging this event with HOSEF.

--scott


Re: [LUAU] Open Source Ghosting

2004-08-25 Thread bmusson
Hi,

Just a FYI for everyone in HOSEF. I spoke with Scott last week
about donating a free copy of Ghost (9.0) to HOSEF and have ordered it through
my corporation (Symantec). I should be able to deliver it next week.

Bill Musson

- Original Message -
From: MonMotha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 7:30 pm
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Open Source Ghosting

> 
> > 
> > there are OSS utilities that can do ftp and http install of 
> system image for 
> > Windows and *nix, but still can't re-partition during restore. 
> So, OSS 
> > utilities can do the same except resizing the partition on the fly.
> > 
> 
> Almost all filesystems commonly used on linux have a tool for 
> resizing, at least 
> growing (to my knowledge only ext2 and ReiserFS can be shrunk).  
> This could be 
> done after an initial image is written.
> 
> I guess I'm used to using Ghost to install on systems with 
> completely identical 
> hardware.  It's just been my experience that windows doesn't like 
> getting put on 
> a completely different system than it was installed on.  I guess 
> maybe MS has 
> addressed this, but I know Windows98 thinks it just had a brain 
> transplant and 
> goes completely nuts, often breaking itself in the frenzy of 
> trying to 
> "reinstall" all it's drivers.
> 
> --MonMotha
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