Re: [LUAU] Loading a tar.gz file in Debian Linux

2005-02-24 Thread Vince Hoang
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 06:27:35PM -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anybody know the best directory to open the gui window manager
 xfce from a tar.gz file.

You mean install from source? Untar it and read the INSTALL file.
Or bail on the source package install and use a _supported_
package.

 This Debian Linux version is sarge. I am a FreeBSD person
 and the file structure in sarge is not easy to figure out.   

It is all *nix under the hood.

I think you are referring to the SysV layout of /etc. Order
Nemeth's _Linux Aministration Handbook_ and google for Linux's
Filesystem Hierarchy Standard while you wait for it to ship.

 Like I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command
 line.

Neither do I. `rm /etc/rc?.d/S???dm`

 So I have finally, after reading the top complaints on
 the Debian list, figured out how to start a gui under level 3
 when you need to have it. I want to have a simple gui XFCE3,
 not KDE and only XFCE4 is available on the apt-get.

Like in your prior question about XFCE3 on FreeBSD, skip it and
install XFCE4; this time via apt.

-Vince


Re: [LUAU] Loading a tar.gz file in Debian Linux

2005-02-24 Thread webmas...@hawaiidakine.com

Vince Hoang wrote:

On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 06:27:35PM -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Anybody know the best directory to open the gui window manager
xfce from a tar.gz file.



You mean install from source? Untar it and read the INSTALL file.
Or bail on the source package install and use a _supported_
package.


This Debian Linux version is sarge. I am a FreeBSD person
and the file structure in sarge is not easy to figure out.   



It is all *nix under the hood.

I think you are referring to the SysV layout of /etc. Order
Nemeth's _Linux Aministration Handbook_ and google for Linux's
Filesystem Hierarchy Standard while you wait for it to ship.



Like I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command
line.



Neither do I. `rm /etc/rc?.d/S???dm`



So I have finally, after reading the top complaints on
the Debian list, figured out how to start a gui under level 3
when you need to have it. I want to have a simple gui XFCE3,
not KDE and only XFCE4 is available on the apt-get.



Like in your prior question about XFCE3 on FreeBSD, skip it and
install XFCE4; this time via apt.

-Vince
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Hi Vince,

I tried xfce4 and do not like it. I can get xfce3 to work on FreeBSD 
with the patch. All the icons are missing from 4 that we use in common 
on all our boxes is another reason.


I havent done Linux for about 4 years and you are right the SysV is just 
different enough to be confusing. There are now 2 layouts for FreeBSD 4 
and 5 and they are somewhat diffrent from each other and I have coped 
with that so I hope to survive this too.


I have the 3rd edition of that Administration Hand book and I'll see 
what will refresh my memory from that. Thanks for the tip.


Aloha!


Al Plant -Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com
Supporting Open Source in computing with FreeBSD 4.9
Failure only happens when you stop trying. - Omar Periu




Re: [LUAU] Loading a tar.gz file in Debian Linux

2005-02-24 Thread Jim Thompson


On Feb 24, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Vince Hoang wrote:

On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 06:27:35PM -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Like I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command
line.


Neither do I. `rm /etc/rc?.d/S???dm`


Uh, thats a bit brute-force, don't you think?

You can do this in several supported ways that are less likely to 
break your system.


	•  Simply remove gdm, kdm and xdm  packages (not the best strategy, 
unless you've determined that you won't use them at all)

or
	•  Delete the one and only line in /etc/X11/default-display-manager 
(though this it affects all runlevels)


or the recommended way

	•  Delete all gdm, kdm and xdm (or just the one mentioned in 
/etc/X11/default-display-manager) links in /etc/rc[X].d/ with the
	tool called  update-rc.d or install the rcconf dpkg (rcconf is like 
RedHat/Fedora's sysconfig). Here [X] is your runlevel. 

For example: update-rc.d -f xdm remove removes xdm from all runleves.

	If you want to have xdm enabled on some specific runlevel, then after 
removing  type update-rc.d xdm start 99 3 ..

to add an xdm startup link in runlevel 3.

To change the display manager

• In Debian, type dpkg-reconfigure  xdm and make your choice.
	•  Or, if you like to do it the old way, edit 
/etc/X11/default-display-manager


All that said, I only run debian on the colo boxes, and that only 
because its too difficult to change now.   The desktop here is gentoo.


Jim



Re: [LUAU] Loading a tar.gz file in Debian Linux

2005-02-24 Thread Gary Sublett
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:27:35 -1000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Linux people,
 
 I am helping a friend with a Debian install.
 
 Anybody know the best directory to open the gui window manager xfce
 from a tar.gz file. This Debian Linux version  is sarge. I am a
 FreeBSD person and the file structure in sarge is not easy to figure
 out. Like I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command
 line. So I have finally, after reading the top complaints on the
 Debian list, figured out how to start a gui under level 3  when you
 need to have it. 
 I want to have a simple gui XFCE3, not KDE and only XFCE4 is 
 available on the apt-get.
 
 Any help appreciated.

http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/

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Re: [LUAU] Loading a tar.gz file in Debian Linux

2005-02-24 Thread Vince Hoang
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 09:36:39AM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
 Neither do I. `rm /etc/rc?.d/S???dm`
 
 Uh, thats a bit brute-force, don't you think?

I used to `update-rc.d -f xdm remove`, but that removed all the
symlinks. By removing only the S* symlinks, the K* symlinks stick
around and upgrade-rc.d is not triggered during an upgrade.
Otherwise, when xdm was upgraded, update-rc.d reruns and adds all
the symlinks back.

 All that said, I only run debian on the colo boxes, and that
 only because its too difficult to change now.

*chuckle*

-Vince


[LUAU] from /.

2005-02-24 Thread Jim Thompson

someone here more qualified than I might want to write back

http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/05/02/23/206217.shtml? 
tid=185tid=146tid=4tid=106


Building a Linux Computer Lab for Schools?

Posted by Cliff on Thursday February 24, @02:12PM
from the penguins-in-education dept.
 joseamuniz asks: After giving Linux classes to Secondary School  
Teachers, I got in touch with a non-profit organization called UNETE.  
This association has donated 1,523 computer labs to public schools in  
Mexico. I told them about Linux, and they are interested in equipping a  
beta computer lab with this Operating System, with Intel PIII, 256 MB  
RAM PCs. The more they like this lab, the higher chances to include  
Linux in the new labs donated by this institution. What hardware  
configurations and software packages would you install on such a  
machine to show off the real power of Linux in an educational  
environment