Re: [LUAU] Bug Report
Angela Kahealani wrote: On Wednesday, 2007-06-27 17:41:05 Jim Thompson wrote: Right, lets launch GPLv3 in the six hours before the iPhone madness^Whysteria reaches its logical peek. I believe logical is erroneous; perhaps you meant reality distortion field. no. The iPhone goes on sale at 6pm (local time) on June 29. Scheduling a press conference for the GPLv3 a mere 6 hours previous is sheer stupidity. I KNOW peek is erroneous; you meant peak. yes, I offer you my apologia. Insert obligatory joke with rms shouting, Can you hear me now? from the podium of an empty theatre while choppers circle the nearest ATT you've confused your brands.. it's VeriZon^H^H^H^H^H^H^HHawaiianTelCom not ATT^H^H^H^HCingular^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HATT where everyone^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hthe symbolic geek keeps asking: Can you hear me now?, to which the person on the other and replies: It's the No^Hetwork! Yes, I am familiar with the fact that, Can you hear me now? is Verizon's advertising gimmick. And yes, I meant what I said. store where armed guards escort the privileged few owners of shinny new hardware back to their cars in order to ward-off the muggings. Wouldn't that be hackings instead of muggings? If the iPhone ends up as an object of status (or perhaps only 'desire'), then I can see a situation develop whereby those lucky few who stand in line for one are subsequently relieved of their shinny new phone via violence or threats thereof. Is that clear enough? Billy Joel has a song titled, Angry Young Man, they lyrics of which remind me of Stallman. Google for it. cave fatuum! jim ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [LUAU] Bug Report
Jim Thompson wrote: Angela Kahealani wrote: On Wednesday, 2007-06-27 17:41:05 Jim Thompson wrote: Right, lets launch GPLv3 in the six hours before the iPhone madness^Whysteria reaches its logical peek. I believe logical is erroneous; perhaps you meant reality distortion field. no. The iPhone goes on sale at 6pm (local time) on June 29. Scheduling a press conference for the GPLv3 a mere 6 hours previous is sheer stupidity. I KNOW peek is erroneous; you meant peak. yes, I offer you my apologia. Insert obligatory joke with rms shouting, Can you hear me now? from the podium of an empty theatre while choppers circle the nearest ATT you've confused your brands.. it's VeriZon^H^H^H^H^H^H^HHawaiianTelCom not ATT^H^H^H^HCingular^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HATT where everyone^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hthe symbolic geek keeps asking: Can you hear me now?, to which the person on the other and replies: It's the No^Hetwork! Yes, I am familiar with the fact that, Can you hear me now? is Verizon's advertising gimmick. And yes, I meant what I said. store where armed guards escort the privileged few owners of shinny new hardware back to their cars in order to ward-off the muggings. Wouldn't that be hackings instead of muggings? If the iPhone ends up as an object of status (or perhaps only 'desire'), then I can see a situation develop whereby those lucky few who stand in line for one are subsequently relieved of their shinny new phone via violence or threats thereof. Is that clear enough? Billy Joel has a song titled, Angry Young Man, they lyrics of which remind me of Stallman. Google for it. cave fatuum! jim ___ Jim, Maybe Angela knows something we don't... http://www.kahealani.com/~kahealan/angela_kahealani.html Best Regards, Camron ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
[LUAU] Re: [Fwd: Launch of GNU GPLv3]
Don Marti wrote: begin Jim Thompson quotation of Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 05:41:05PM -1000: Right, lets launch GPLv3 in the six hours before the iPhone madness^Whysteria reaches its logical peek. Insert obligatory joke with rms shouting, Can you hear me now? from the podium of an empty theatre while choppers circle the nearest ATT store where armed guards escort the privileged few owners of shinny new hardware back to their cars in order to ward-off the muggings. http://www.linuxworld.com/community/?q=node/737 But wait, there's more. This just in: Original Message Subject: iPhone restricts users, GPLv3 frees them Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:28:38 -0400 From: Peter Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] iPhone restricts users, GPLv3 frees them BOSTON, Massachusetts, USA -- Thursday, June 28, 2007 -- On Friday, June 29, not everyone in the continental U.S. will be waiting in line to purchase a $500 iPhone. In fact, hundreds of thousands of digital aficionados around the globe won't be standing in line at all, for June 29 marks the release of version 3 of the GNU General Public License (GPL). Version 2 of the GPL governs the world's largest body of free software -- software that is radically reshaping the industry and threatening the proprietary technology model represented by the iPhone. The author of the the GPL is Professor Richard M. Stallman, president and founder of the Free Software Foundation, and creator of the GNU Project. With his first revision of the license in sixteen years, version 3 of the GPL fights the most recent attempts to take the freedom out of free software -- most notably, version 3 attacks Tivoization -- and that could be a problem for Apple and the iPhone. Now, from China to India, from Venezuela to Brazil, from Tivos to cell phones: Free software is everywhere and it is slowly building a worldwide movement of users demanding that they have control over the computers and electronic devices they own. Tivoization and the iPhone? Tivoization is a term coined by the FSF to describe devices that are built with free software, but that use technical measures to prevent the user from making modifications to the software -- a fundamental freedom for free software users -- and an attack on free software that the GPLv3 will put a stop to. The iPhone is leaving people questioning: Does it contain GPLed software? What impact will the GPLv3 have on the long-term prospects for devices like the iPhone that are built to keep their owners frustrated? Peter Brown, executive director of the FSF said, Tomorrow, Steve Jobs and Apple release a product crippled with proprietary software and digital restrictions: crippled, because a device that isn't under the control of its owner works against the interests of its owner. We know that Apple has built its operating system, OS X, and its web browser Safari, using GPL-covered work -- it will be interesting to see to what extent the iPhone uses GPLed software. The GNU GPL version 3 will be released at 12:00pm (EDT) -- six hours before the release of the iPhone -- bringing to a close eighteen months of public outreach and comment, in revision of the world's most popular free software license. About the GNU General Public License (GNU GPL) The GNU GPL is the most widely used free software license worldwide: almost three quarters of all free software packages are distributed under this license. It is not, however, the only free software license. Richard Stallman wrote the version 1 and 2 of the GNU GPL with legal advice from Perkins, Smith Cohen. Version 1 was released in 1989, and version 2 in 1991. Since 1991, free software use has increased tremendously, and computing practices have changed, introducing new opportunities and new threats. In 2005, Stallman began revising the GPL for version 3. In January 2006, the FSF began a systematic process of public review and feedback, with legal advice and organizational support from the Software Freedom Law Center. About the GNU Operating System and Linux Richard Stallman announced in September 1983 the plan to develop a free software Unix-like operating system called GNU. GNU is the only operating system developed specifically for the sake of users' freedom. See http://www.gnu.org/gnu/the-gnu-project.html. In 1992, the essential components of GNU were complete, except for one, the kernel. When in 1992 the kernel Linux was re-released under the GNU GPL, making it free software, the combination of GNU and Linux formed a complete free operating system, which made it possible for the first time to run a PC without non-free software. This combination is the GNU/Linux system. For more explanation, see http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html The GNU GPL is used by developers with various views, but it was written to serve the ethical goals of the free software movement. Says
Re: [LUAU] Bug Report
Camron W. Fox wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: Angela Kahealani wrote: On Wednesday, 2007-06-27 17:41:05 Jim Thompson wrote: Right, lets launch GPLv3 in the six hours before the iPhone madness^Whysteria reaches its logical peek. I believe logical is erroneous; perhaps you meant reality distortion field. no. The iPhone goes on sale at 6pm (local time) on June 29. Scheduling a press conference for the GPLv3 a mere 6 hours previous is sheer stupidity. I KNOW peek is erroneous; you meant peak. yes, I offer you my apologia. Insert obligatory joke with rms shouting, Can you hear me now? from the podium of an empty theatre while choppers circle the nearest ATT you've confused your brands.. it's VeriZon^H^H^H^H^H^H^HHawaiianTelCom not ATT^H^H^H^HCingular^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HATT where everyone^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hthe symbolic geek keeps asking: Can you hear me now?, to which the person on the other and replies: It's the No^Hetwork! Yes, I am familiar with the fact that, Can you hear me now? is Verizon's advertising gimmick. And yes, I meant what I said. store where armed guards escort the privileged few owners of shinny new hardware back to their cars in order to ward-off the muggings. Wouldn't that be hackings instead of muggings? If the iPhone ends up as an object of status (or perhaps only 'desire'), then I can see a situation develop whereby those lucky few who stand in line for one are subsequently relieved of their shinny new phone via violence or threats thereof. Is that clear enough? Billy Joel has a song titled, Angry Young Man, they lyrics of which remind me of Stallman. Google for it. cave fatuum! jim ___ Jim, Maybe Angela knows something we don't... http://www.kahealani.com/~kahealan/angela_kahealani.html Maybe, but s/he didn't predict Steve-o giving all the Apple Employees a free 8GB iPhone by the end of July. Also said (during the company-wide Steve-note): Apple employees will be able to tell their grandkids that they were at Apple when they launched the iPhone, and that it was all worth the sacrifice. Which is just too close to Shakespeare for me. Quoting Henry V: What's he that wishes so? My cousin Westmorland. No, my fair cousin: If we are marked to die, we are enow To do our country loss; and if to live, The fewer men, the greater share of honour. God's will, I pray thee, wish not one man more. By Jove, I am not covetous for gold, Nor care I who doth feed upon my cost; It ernes me not if men my garments wear; Such outward things dwell not in my desires: But if it be a sin to covet honour, I am the most offending soul alive. No, faith, my coz, wish not a man from England: God's peace, I would not lose so great an honour As one man more, methinks, would share from me For the best hope I have. O, do not wish one more. Rather proclaim it presently through my host, That he which hath no stomach to this fight, Let him depart. His passport shall be made And crowns for convoy put into his purse: We would not die in that man's company That fears his fellowship to die with us. This day is called the Feast of Crispian: He that outlives this day, and comes safe home, Will stand a-tiptoe when the day is named, And rouse him at the name of Crispian. He that shall see this day and live t'old age, Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours, And say To-morrow is Saint Crispian: Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars And say These wounds I had on Crispin's day. Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages What feats he did that day. Then shall our names, Familiar in his mouth as household words Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter, Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester, Be in their flowing cups freshly remembered. This story shall the good man teach his son; And Crispin Crispian shall ne'er go by, From this day to the ending of the world, But we in it shall be remember'd; We few, we happy few, we band of brothers; For he today that sheds his blood with me Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile, This day shall gentle his condition: And gentlemen in England now abed Shall think themselves accursed they were not here, And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks That fought with us upon Saint Crispin's day. (IV, iii) Highbrow my culus, Jim ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
[LUAU] Re: Bling
On Thursday, 2007-06-28 16:41:48 Jim Thompson wrote: Maybe, but s/he didn't predict Steve-o giving all the Apple Employees a free 8GB iPhone by the end of July. I wasn't clocked-in. Do you do whatever you do professionally 24/7? or do you have other skills and interests also? There are issues of ethics and privacy you presume I ignore. Also said (during the company-wide Steve-note): Apple employees will be able to tell their grandkids that they were at Apple when they launched the iPhone, and that it was all worth the sacrifice. ...as I said: reality distortion field. Which is just too close to [...] Henry V: Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars And say These wounds I had on Crispin's day. -- Jim TOPS-20: a great improvement over its successors -- Mark Crispin (developer of IMAP) http://www.panda.com/ -- All rights reserve without prejudice, Copyright 2007 Angela Kahealani. All information and transactions are private between the parties and are non negotiable. http://www.kahealani.com/ ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
