[LUAU] Trying to disable UDP checksum using Debian Testing
Aloha,
I am using Debian testing version and am trying to disable udp checksum.
I have tried
optval=1;
if (setsockopt(sock_info - socket, SOL_SOCKET, SO_NO_CHECK, (void*)optval,
sizeof(optval)) ==-1)
{
LOG(L_ERR, ERROR: udp_init: no checksum setsockopt: %s\n,
strerror(errno));
}
Even with the code, I continue to get an EAGAIN error when there is a
checksum error.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Aloha,
Matt
Re: [LUAU] Trying to disable UDP checksum using Debian Testing
I am using Debian testing version and am trying to disable udp checksum.
I have tried
optval=1;
if (setsockopt(sock_info - socket, SOL_SOCKET, SO_NO_CHECK,
(void*)optval,
sizeof(optval)) ==-1)
{
LOG(L_ERR, ERROR: udp_init: no checksum setsockopt: %s\n,
strerror(errno));
}
Even with the code, I continue to get an EAGAIN error when there is a
checksum error.
Can anyone point me in the right direction?
I guess I am not alone with this issue. Here is a post describing the exact
problem.
http://oldfaq.phoneboy.com/gurus/200107/msg00418.html
Thinking even more about it, most layer 2 technology is quite reliable and
real udp checksum error rarely happens in most networks. I doubt that it is
going to be a big negative impact on the system. Actually it would speed up
the system a little bit.
-Matt
[LUAU] Good Linux movie - Revolution OS
http://www.revolution-os.com/ This is a good movie that chronicles the free software movement, it is an interview style documentary. I thought the tension between Linus Torvalds Richard Stallman was interesting. Linus also mentions he pronounces his name three different ways depending on the language he is speaking, but Linux is always Linux. Anyone know of any other movies like this? I rented this movie off of Netflix. Aloha, Matt
Re: [LUAU] Good Linux movie - Revolution OS
I enjoyed that movie a lot. I can't think of any other movies that are in that area though... Anti-Trust is a good movie [www.antitrustthemovie.com]. Not really about Linux and not really taking a stand on anything, but more about the rebelious nature of open source (writen by someone who obviously doesn't like Bill Gates). Too bad there aren't more linux movies outside the how-to genre. * I had seen that movie Anti-TrustTim Robbins kind of looks like Bill Gates. It was a lot of Hollywood, but very interesting. My favorite techy movie of all time is still 'War Games'. I think I was 14 when it came out. I just got my first Commodore64 with color display and floppy drive...no more TI-99 cassette tape. -Matt
Re: [LUAU] VC and Linux
Nope, he meant Verifone. -Matt - Original Message - From: Virgil Vergara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux/Unix Advocates/Users Hawaiian community discussion list luau@lists.hosef.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [LUAU] VC and Linux Hi Wayne, You must be talking about Verizon right? Verifone has no ties to Hawaii. They are the world's largest telecom with stakes in several European countries, South America and in Japan. I don't even think Verifone has any kind of market in the US. There are a few companies that are receiving attention within the VC field. Mainly with biotechnology. Two companies that are doing well are Hoku Scientific and Hawaii Biotech. There are others as well. Virgil On Thursday, April 22, 2004, at 12:37 PM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote: BTW, most participants in this forum are probably too young or too new to have heard the story about Verifone. This is the biggest IP success story in Hawaii. Verifone grew too big and had to be sold to a mainland company for something like 9-digit figure. I know some of the founders of Verifone, many of them still live on the island and many are still actively pursuing VC activities. Several of them invested in a company called Aquasearch, which makes microalgae and got into a very nasty patent fight with its next door neighbor, Cyantech. Eventually Aquasearch filed for bankruptcy, and Cyantech did not fare too well, either. Both companies had great technologies and are in one of the most promissing markets, but they had to try to fight each other to death. Anyway, I know getting a decent paycheck is priority No. 1, but if we ourselves can't think too much about the VC business, we sure hope someone else on the islands will make it, and make it big. wayne ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] yum-2.0.4-2
Vince- Is there any reason why the local mirror is maxed out at 100KB/s? wayne I have had downloads in excess of 500KB/s, over 4 megs. Maybe you need to be on the white list. -Matt
Re: [luau] yum-2.0.4-2
Too many neighbors downloading divx movies? :) You mean to tell me that by being on this list I am associating with admitted felons? I wonder if that violates my parole :( -M
Re: [luau] videl.ics.hawaii.edu disk failure - Your Help Needed
Vince, Is their a particular drive you have in mind, or just any 160GB disk. -Matt - Original Message - From: Vince Hoang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:49 PM Subject: Re: [luau] videl.ics.hawaii.edu disk failure - Your Help Needed On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:45:48AM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: R.Scott Belford wrote: With time, though, enough money will be gathered to buy a matching larger drive ($177), and hopefully more. When that time comes we can move to faster drives as Vince has suggested. The 160gb drive had a great price point, and it really isn't that bad, is it? Granted I make a lot of stubborn decisions too, but I believe I have the technical correctness to back it up, so I am correct at least 95% of the time. But you forget to compromise on that remaining 5%. Instead of looking at it like Scott bought the wrong drive, think if it as him helping out with the alternative that I suggested. Now, another donor has the choice of purchasing a 60GB _or_ a 160GB drive. Either way, videl gets a paired root disk and a lot more diskspace. -Vince ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Start process on server, I'm sure it can be done!
The nohup worked like a charm! Thanks, Matt - Original Message - From: whenever [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [luau] Start process on server, I'm sure it can be done! If you still need the script be in the foreground, you can use 'screen', start your script then detach, re-attech when ever you want to. or use 'nohup' to start the script, it will redirect the stdout/stderror to a file, it will be running after you log off. or use cron, check if the process is running, start it if not. or place it in inittab, set the run level and respawn, depends on how you wrote your script, it might not work with initd. On Saturday 08 November 2003 11:39 am, Matthew John Darnell wrote: Aloha, I would like to start two perl scripts on the server and let them run. I can start them in an SSH session, but if my connection times out or is broken the scripts stops. From an SSH session can I start them on the Debian box itself so my computer doesn't matter? Thanks for the help! Aloha, Matt ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Start process on server, I'm sure it can be done!
Aloha, I would like to start two perl scripts on the server and let them run. I can start them in an SSH session, but if my connection times out or is broken the scripts stops. From an SSH session can I start them on the Debian box itself so my computer doesn't matter? Thanks for the help! Aloha, Matt
Re: [luau] Two computers working as one
Thanks Ron, those sites look good; or should I say intimidating? -Matt - Original Message - From: Ronald Willis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:42 AM Subject: RE: [luau] Two computers working as one Hey Matt, Linux does distributed computing very easily. Imagine a classroom of computer sitting idle all night long. Or complete coporation of PC's doing nothing for at least 8 hours a day. Now imagine using all of those idle BogoMips to function as a rendering farm, or to crunch numbers like Seti. Look up Beowulf http://www.beowulf.org/beowulf/vendors/. RedHat has a good resource for Linux clusters. Books on Amazon, Linux Clusters... Of course the web will keep you busy too. Penguin Computing Clustering FAQs 1) What is a High Performance Cluster (HPC)? A High Performance Cluster is a generic term for a group of computers connected to work on a specific, computationally intensive problem. Beowulf is a type of HPC. HPC is also an acronym for High Performance Computing, a larger category that subsumes High Performance Clusters. More... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew John Darnell Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 6:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Two computers working as one Aloha, Has anyone ever got two computers to work as one? I think it is called parallel computing. It would be used to solve a hard math problem or analyze data from a survey. I was reading Linux can do this relativley well. Aloha, Matt ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Two computers working as one
I have a friend that works for an unamed software company and he thinks that is going to be a huge growth area. The unnamed software company is spending lots of money on being able to cluster servers reliably with their software. I thought this quote was interesting... Q.Should I build a cluster of these 100 386s? A.If it's OK with you that it'll be slower than a single Celeron-333 machine, sure. Great way to learn. I wonder if large scale terminal services is another target area. -Matt - Original Message - From: Jan Daniel Semrau [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [luau] Two computers working as one If you want to set that up, you should have a look at Clusterknoppix, which does clustering in a convenient and easy way. Moreover, it is AFAIR based on openMosix, so every application potentially benefits from the clustering as it is a Kernel extension instead of Cluster software like Beowulf or Globus where applications need to be created for. In my opinion, you should not just jump on the clustering bandwagon as there are some drawbacks and pitfalls included. For example a 10MBit network can be a bottleneck. Hope it helps, Jan Matthew John Darnell wrote: Aloha, Has anyone ever got two computers to work as one? I think it is called parallel computing. It would be used to solve a hard math problem or analyze data from a survey. I was reading Linux can do this relativley well. Aloha, Matt ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Two computers working as one
I've been kind of thinking about it for a long time, but it's too far down my too do list. -Charles Be proud you got to the point of writing your list down! -Matt
[luau] Two computers working as one
Aloha, Has anyone ever got two computers to work as one? I think it is called parallel computing. It would be used to solve a hard math problem or analyze data from a survey. I was reading Linux can do this relativley well. Aloha, Matt
Re: [luau] Fedora Test 3
How is Fedora better/different from Red Hat or Mandrake. It looks like Red Hat 9.0 with a different skin. I though it was apt-get functionality for Red Hat. -Matt - Original Message - From: Hawaii Linux Institute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:55 PM Subject: [luau] Fedora Test 3 According to an e-mail message, Fedora Core Test 3 is being released: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2003-October/msg00582.html You can view some of the screenshots at: http://linuxinstall.org/fedora/0.94/screenshots/ http://linuxinstall.org/fedora/0.95/screenshots/ Archive of testers' discussions can be found at: http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/ i really wish there could be some mechanism by which we on the island can be more actively and more organizedly involved in beta testing Fedora. Fedora is going to become the most popular Linux distro, , thanx to Warren, when we go out of island (OK, even w/i the State), we can cockily claim that Fedora orginated from Hawaii. :-) ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] SQL Statement help
Subject: Re: [luau] SQL Statement help TRY select a, b from THE_TABLE where ab ; a and b are the column A and culumn B respectively. * Weiguo, That works great! Very straight forward as well! The other suggestion I got appeared to work, but did not catch null objects as equal to zero, yours does. Thanks, Matt
Re: [luau] SQL Statement help
Aloha, No need to respond, got an off list respnse. Aloha., Matt - Original Message - From: Matthew John Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 9:59 PM Subject: [luau] SQL Statement help Aloha, I have a mysql database and I need to know when a row has different values in two fields. The values are either 0 or 1. i.e. Column A Column B 11 01 10 00 I would like to know about record 2 and 3. After that I will find out where the value 1 is. Anyone know a SQL statement for something like that? I have tried to get all the values in two different hashes but I can't compare them. Even if I could (I'm sure you can) it would be nice to do it in one step. -Matt ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Administrivia: replying to digests
Thanks, -Vince (the broken record) I think looping tape has a better ring to it. -Matt
Re: [luau] Mid range board with console out
Hi Matt, Redirecting console to the serial port (via the linux kernel) is covered in several internet articles: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/index.html http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/3164/1/ basically, it involves configuring the kernel to use the serial port as the console. Google is your friend: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=redirect+console+seri al+port+linux Hope that helps (a little), Dwight... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew John Darnell Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 8:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Mid range board with console out Aloha, Does anyone have have a favorite mid range mother board PIII or P4 that has built in 10/100 LAN and the console output will go to a serial port? I would be looking at 512MB of RAM. No floppy, CD-ROM just console output and IDE for the boot. Aloha, Matt Dwight, Thanks for the reply! I found references to that, but am I correct that the OS has to get pretty far in the boot sequence before the output get redirected? If all you lose is teh CMOS options this would be a great option. I assumed the first thing you would see is a log in prompt. Do you see all the devices loading up? Aloha, Matt
Re: [luau] Donations Needed for Server Upgrades
Warren, Here is a list of hardware that we need to buy: * (Critical) Several large IDE hard drives and 3Ware RAID controller. I will donate a hard drive, I get a lot of stuff off Videl. What size, and manufacturer are you looking for? I can scrape up an IDE RAID card if you need it - not sure if it is Linux supported, works well under Windows. -Matt
Re: [luau] Donations Needed for Server Upgrades
As for disk size and manufacturer, that will be decided when we receive all the donations and make the purchase so we can have uniform disks. So do you want cash or a commitment to purhcase a hard drive; cash is harder. -Matt
[luau] Microsoft's spin on things
Everyone should sign up for Microsoft's passport to gain access to this. Microsoft for Partners Sales Training - Competing with Linux: 1. What Everybody Needs to Know http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=202411 There are more parts. Some parts seem reasonable and someparts are outlandish! -Matt
[luau] Kernal Sources with Debian
Aloha, Can anyone tell me how to get the kernal sources on a Debian system? I am compiling a program that needs them. I can find packages with apt-get and looking on apt-get.org but I can't see how to download the kernal sources. Thanks, Matt
[luau] Any PERL experts out there?
Aloha, Are there any PERL experts out there? I need some routines written that I could crack out in VB in fairly short order, but it would take me a lot longer in PERL. If you have some spare time and looking to make some money please contact me off list. Working at night is perfectly OK. Aloha, Matt
[luau] No hard drive, only compact flash card
Aloha, Does anyone have any experience with booting and running an full Linux server install from a 1.0GB CompactFlash Cardor similar. By full server install I mean, apache, sendmail, mysql, gc++, etc. No X needed, only command line. Seems like it would be possible, 500MB for the OS and 50MB for the apps. I wonder how fast/slow they are for access compared to a hard drive. I see 1.0GB card for $299 retail, they will only be getting cheaper/faster/higher density. Aloha, Matt
Re: [luau] No hard drive, only compact flash card
- Original Message - From: Casey Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:11 AM Subject: Re: [luau] No hard drive, only compact flash card --- Matthew John Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aloha, Does anyone have any experience with booting and running an full Linux server install from a 1.0GB CompactFlash Cardor similar. By full server install I mean, apache, sendmail, mysql, gc++, etc. No X needed, only command line. Seems like it would be possible, 500MB for the OS and 50MB for the apps. I wonder how fast/slow they are for access compared to a hard drive. I see 1.0GB card for $299 retail, they will only be getting cheaper/faster/higher density. Seeing as you are taking out what would be the largest and most memory intensive packages in a Linux install (XWin is great, but at a cost), you should be able to do this like any other install. CompactFlash cards are faster on read/write, but the lifespan is only between 100,000-300,000 cycles. If you were to do a system using only flash cards, I would recommend that you place heavy read/write directories, such as /tmp, on a separate card, so that you don't have to reload the server every time that you need to replace the card. Maybe even a hard drive for the /tmp. If the hard drive crashes the system will go down but it is realativly easy to recover from. Also, from looking around on the 'Net, CF card speeds are slower than ATA/100. Lexar 32X 1GB CR car has a speed of just 4.7MB/s, versus 62 MB/s with ATA/100 drives, after you get through the board. That is a bit slower, I wonder how long a boot up would take. From my very un-scientific observations Linux has less disk thrashing on starup than a Windows box.
Re: [luau] No hard drive, only compact flash card
- Original Message - From: MonMotha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [luau] No hard drive, only compact flash card Matthew John Darnell wrote: Aloha, Does anyone have any experience with booting and running an full Linux server install from a 1.0GB CompactFlash Cardor similar. By full server install I mean, apache, sendmail, mysql, gc++, etc. No X needed, only command line. Seems like it would be possible, 500MB for the OS and 50MB for the apps. I wonder how fast/slow they are for access compared to a hard drive. I see 1.0GB card for $299 retail, they will only be getting cheaper/faster/higher density. Aloha, Matt CF cards are *VERY* slow compared to hard drives, especially on writes. My little 32MB things can manage about 1-4MB/sec reads, but only about 100-300kB/sec writes! This is *REALLY* slow. You will NOT want to even THINK about swapping to it. In other words, make sure you have enough RAM because there won't be any swap. RAM is cheap these days, so this shouldn't be a problem. However, last time I checked, distros like redhat likes to complain a lot if you didn't set up swap for them (I think it used to be that redhat would refuse to install under such a situation?) People tend to overexagerate the erase cycle limitations of flash. CF cards usually do wear patterning to prevent the same sectors from being used over and over, and when they have reached their max usage, that sector is just no longer used and is remapped (like bad sectors on IDE hard drives). The entire card isn't useless. If you're really concerned about this, you can get nicer flash cards that actually present themselves as raw flash, rather than ATA flash, and run a real flash filesystem like jffs2 on it. jffs2 includes on-the-fly compression (which I think can be disabled, but may actually help with read/write speed in this case), and all the bad block handling/wear patterning you could need. I was told once the best minimalist distro was debian. I sure like the functionality of apt-get. An IDE to flash adpater runs about 30 bucks, a lot less than I thought it would. However, due to their slowness at writes, I'd reccomend keeping really dynamic things like /tmp in a ramdisk (use tmpfs, it takes up only as much ram as it needs to based on what's in it). You might also want to do something with /var (like unpacking it to a ramdisk at startup, then tarring it up back to CF at shutdown, of course this makes unclean shutdowns REALLY bad). Or, you could just not have logging to /var/log and simply use a ring buffer like is used by busybox's syslog. I will have to research jffs2 and busybox. I'm still curious if even 500MB would be needed for the os. You seem to be used to very bloated desktop oses (like redhat) that are designed to have everything abstracted two or three times (remember, you can always fix the problem by adding another layer of indirection). I will say that I have the os in well under 4MB (where the os is defined as kernel, core apps like stuff in /bin and /sbin, and libraries like glibc in /lib; this does not include /usr of course). Aagin you can save a fair amount on smaller systems by playing tricks with smaller versions of libraries, but on a system with full apps like mysql and gcc, it won't be worth it (as I think gcc completely and utterly requires glibc). Toolchains are big, but they're not that big. I've seen full x86-ARM toolchains in about 50-70MB. But that has to include all the foreign libs. Here, those would be considered part of the os or the apps, depending on their usage, since they are needed to run stuff locally anyway. The static libs will sometimes pose problems because they tend to be rather large, but at least headers are usually pretty small :) 4MB!?!? with all the important apps? I have seend Linux on a floppy but they were so very limited. I think that is incredible. I will buy one of the converters and try a small install of debian, I already have a 256MB flash card. I am very suprised no one sells PC like this. All of the ones I found were cash registers or the like, no general purpose PC's. I would think this would be great for routers, firewalls, etc. High high availabilty stuff. Thanks, Matt
[luau] Sending attachments from the command line
Aloha, I have talked to a few knowledgeable *nix users and they did not know this command that allows you send a mime attachemnt from the command line - as opposed to sending the text in the body of the email. Here is the format: uuencode filename filename|mail -s subject email address i.e uuencode pass.txt pass.txt|mail -s This is the pass.text file [EMAIL PROTECTED] Right before mail that is a pipe charectar, shift slash on my keyboard. I would imagine a -b would allow you to print to the body, I will be folling around with it.
Re: [luau] SpamAssassin and Exchange Webmail
If you look at the messge header it should tell you exactly what the triggers were. You can adjust the points given to each test if you experience dictates so. -Matt - Original Message - From: Randall Oshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:10 PM Subject: [luau] SpamAssassin and Exchange Webmail Anybody here with any ideas why Spam Assassin scores a messages lower when sent via Outlook but scores it higher when sending the same exact message via Exchange's webmail? Randall ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] SpamAssassin and Exchange Webmail
We are on 2.55 and even if it is marked SPAM it doesn't add any attachments, just adds ***SPAM** to the beginning of the subject. Here is the header of mail not marked as SPAM Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from mx11.sjc.ebay.com (mxpool06.ebay.com [66.135.197.12]) by www.comtelweb.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5PLB0L28225 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 11:11:01 -1000 Received: from sj-cgi3008.sjc.ebay.com (sj-cgi3008.sjc.ebay.com [10.6.17.247]) by mx11.sjc.ebay.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id h5PLBmjE008293 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:11:49 -0700 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Comment: 0.0.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: eBay Request Payment Information for Item#3420552097 (Avaya partner-18D euro telephone nice) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:11:56 PDT X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW,GENUINE_EBAY_RCVD,NO_REAL_NAME version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) X-UIDL: U'3!!D2##!!!+#!/_B! The auto white list is how it gets a negative nubmer. Aloha, Matt - Original Message - From: Randall Oshita [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: RE: [luau] SpamAssassin and Exchange Webmail 2.50 Mimedefang 2.3 What version of spamassassin is that? 2.55? ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Red Hat Distro on DVD?
Aloha, Does anyone know where to find the Red Hat distro on DVD? It would be nice to be able to start the install and walk away, not have to worry about changing disks. Maybe that could be a business for someone. YAWAH, Matt
[luau] Who else is selling open source solutions?
Is anyone else beside Hoala selling open source servers around town? Ron, you still around? If so please contact me, when I am putting in a quote I want to give them more people to contact for quotes. When 15 people are scream Microsoft and only one or two people are talking open source we get drowned (sp?) out. The more people on the forefront selling open source solutions, the better for everyone. We all want more competition! -Matt
Re: [luau] Linux Class at McKinley
It might not be too late, I think they had 5 people paid, only needed 2 more. I wouldn't pay now unless the class was guaranteed. I was told I would receive a refund in a few weeks. Paying right before the class was probably a function of their being enough paid students to have the class. -Matt - Original Message - From: Taylor Cody L Contractor 502 AOS/PETS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:19 PM Subject: RE: [luau] Linux Class at McKinley Im confused as well. I was heading down today to pay for the Samba class because of this message. -Original Message- From: Michael_Bishop/FARRINCS/[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Michael_Bishop/FARRINCS/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [luau] Hotbed of Linux subversion For those that are interested, we'll extend registration until the day class begins June 16. Thank you. Michael Technology Coordinator McKinley Community School for Adults -Original Message- From: TB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 2:23 PM To: luau Subject: re: [luau] Linux Class at McKinley I thought they'd changed it so that we could sign up pay at the very last minute. SNAFU. Which classes are cancelled, all? I was interested in samba. ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Samba Class, only three paid - Need four more!
Not sure but, if I feel the instructor is not qualified to teach the class, you should be able to tell by the end of the second session, I will demand a refund. I'm sure that won't be a problem. The instructor should drop a personal line on this list. This list has lots of lurkers. I wonder if the instructor's pay goes up if there are more students. Me personally, I want just enough students to have the class, more individualized attention. (I'm sure management has a different opinion as to attendance targets) -Matt - Original Message - From: Wayne Bow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 2:27 PM Subject: RE: [luau] Samba Class, only three paid - Need four more! ALoha, Do we know who is teaching this class yet? I was there at 10:15 this morning and I was the 3rd person to pay. At that time there were 6 people signed up and only three of us paid. I'm guessing that everyone else is holding back on paying for the class, waiting for the school to commit to the class. 1. As Matt said, they will refund you your money if the class is cancelled. 2. The class will certainly be cancelled if you don't pay for it by this Friday, which is when the cutoff is scheduled. Anyone who signed up for the class and didn't pay may as well not sign up. Names with no money will not be counted. Come on folks, if you signed up, that means you want to have/attend the class. Pay for the class so we can get at least 7 paid bodies. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew John Darnell Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Samba Class, only three paid - Need four more! Maddog and I just went down to sign up for the Smaba class. As of right now three people have paid, eight have signed up. They will refund your money if they don't get the 7 people for that class. If they had six paid, I would wager they would start the class. If the class goes as scheduled I will buy pizza and soda for eveyone the first night! Aloha, Matt ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau Wayne Bow Network Administrator St Francis School (808) 988.4111 ext 107 Quality Catholic Education in a Spirit of Joy ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Hotbed of Linux subversion
I was the forth person for the Samba class on last Thursday. Someone told me at the school that they need to have 7 students at least, otherwise, the class will be cancelled. Thanks. Weiguo --- Did you sign up on the web? I did not see a link for that, I want to take the Samba class. -Matt
Re: [luau] CPU states in top?
Charles Lockhart wrote: I just got a 1u rack mount dual Xeon system from these guys: http://www.swt.com/thin4.html I was looking at top and noticed that it lists 4 CPU states, where I'd generally figure there'd be one per CPU. Any ideas why this would be? I opened it up to be sure, and yep, there's only 2 CPUs. Any chance it could have something to do with the Xeon's Hyperthreading technology? I think I read something somewhere (helpful, I know) that mentioned that the Linux kernel can treat the P4s with hyperthreading as virtual dual processors. Windows reports 2 per CPU as well with the Zeons. With a dual CPU box you will see 4 in the task manager. -Matt
Re: [luau] the end user price for lousy copy protection schemes
I have seen numbers thrown around of how much buggy software costs end users. But one number I have never seen is how much copyright protection schemes costs end users? For example, you legally buy some commercial software package and the key number is ether lost, stolen, or is burned on a fire. Or the key number has problems, or a bug requires you to re-enter the key number every time you use the package, or the 'original disk' is in 5.24 floppies, or the lisense management sheme is difficult to set up. Same thing with music. I don't know how many copies of Back in Black I have bought since I was 13. Two cassette tapes, 3 LP's and I'm on my second CD. I know why the music industry fat cats are so scared of peer to peer. I'm never buying another copy, I already own it, I'll be burning copies for my next 60 years. I have not bought a main stream CD in over 3 years, that was when I saw my first VH1 Behind the Music. Why should I support that? They all have the same story: 1-Hungry young band trying hard to make it 2-They make it big, lots of drugs, lots of women, lots of excess 2a-The record label execs are making a fortune for doing nothing 3-Someone dies in the band 4-They sober up and most of the money is gone -M
[luau] Speed Benchmark for Red Hat
Does anyone know of a speed benchmark program for Red Hat. I would like to test different configs of hard drives and hardware. I will be happy to post my results if anyone is interested. -Matt
Re: [luau] Partitions
On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 08:00:49PM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: I personally think that one swap and one large / partition is good for almost every desktop and server. There are some special cases like wanting to separate a cache partition mounting with noatime and other performance increasing options for squid server, but otherwise separating / into multiple partitions just isn't needed for most people. I use noatime on all write partitions unless there is a mail client that needs to read atime for biff-like (mail arrival detection) features. Another reason for multiple partitions these days is it can help reduce the time it takes to fsck the filesystems after a really bad system crash. -Vince How do you partition your disks for a general use server, sendmail, file serving etc? I thought noatime was a typo. Guess I need to look it up! -Matt
Re: [luau] Partitions
On Wed, May 07, 2003 at 08:00:49PM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: I personally think that one swap and one large / partition is good for almost every desktop and server. There are some special cases like wanting to separate a cache partition mounting with noatime and other performance increasing options for squid server, but otherwise separating / into multiple partitions just isn't needed for most people. I use noatime on all write partitions unless there is a mail client that needs to read atime for biff-like (mail arrival detection) features. Another reason for multiple partitions these days is it can help reduce the time it takes to fsck the filesystems after a really bad system crash. -Vince I thought noatime was a typo. Guess I need to look it up! That noatime seems to hve great implications for a squid cache. I will have to do more research on this speed tune. That would be something else to do a speed test on. Anyone else who is interested you can look at this link. http://en.tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap6sec73.html -Matt
Re: [luau] Partitions
Is that a relic to when hard drives were 6MB and you had to worry about logs filling up your user space? Mostly a relic, yes. It was done mostly to help prevent / from filling up. Seems to me having one pool of free space rather than n1 pools wouuld be better for this in almost all instances. Is there a reason for preferring / to have space even when /tmp or /var is full? Is something else I should be thinking about? Hacking linux exposed recommends the multiple partition thing so that partitions that are fairly static can be mounted as read only during ordinary use. So they have to be on separate partitions from things that change often, and especially from /tmp which must be writable by everyone. HLE doesn't like the idea of having something world writable on the same partition as anything valuable/hackable, I forget why. Somehow having them on the same partition makes things a bit more vulnerable (links maybe?). Of course if an intruder gets root he can remount the sensitive partitions as RW, but supposedly this approach cuts off some paths to cracking root in the first place. Makes sense that what it takes to boot the system into a state that allows you to fix a problem should be read only execpt for root. Like you siad, if they get the root password the battle is lost and you better have good backups. Is HLE a good book? I don't think I saw it at Borders. -Matt
Re: [luau] Redhat 9.0 and video woes
On Mon, 2003-04-28 at 15:58, Matthew John Darnell wrote: I have a machine here that won't start the 9.0 graphical setup. 8.0 works fine as does Windoze 2000, trying Mandrake 9.1. I guess RH 9.1 will fix some video issues. Please provide more details about your video hardware and motherboard. The 9.0 install recognizes the video card as a S3 ProSavage KM133, 8.0 loads the standard VESA driver. The motherboard has the part number P4MFP533. http://www.redhat.com/software/ Red Hat has chosen to split their products into two lines, consumer and enterprise. The consumer line that has and always will be free has accelerated in development because they no longer need to maintain binary compatibility with older distributions. They have made indications that they no longer will need to release point releases. This means that RD can happen at a much faster pace, and every 6 months you can get the newest, coolest stuff with the free version of Red Hat. In order to reduce their overhead and focus more engineer time on RD, they only guarantee to release updates for the consumer Linux distribution up to a year after its release. Their stance seems a lot of double speak. In the past a dot release meant smaller but significant improvements. A rose by anyother name The enterprise line takes the best of the more experimental technology and every 1.5 years releases a new product aimed for the enterprise/business market where 6 month turnaround is too quick. With a much longer product QA cycle their enterprise linux distributions are meant to be used for years without upgrading. For technologists like me that is a boring prospect, but consistency is important for business. They guarantee 5 years of support for their enterprise Linux distributions. Their enterprise Linux distributions are not free, instead with a cost and different support options attached to it. Unlike SuSE however Red Hat's Enterprise distributions are still 100% Open Source, so nothing stops you from downloading all the source code, compiling and installing it yourself. You just don't get their support services. Warren They are certanly the leaders, I wonder if 9.0 will turn into their Windows ME - a product really rushed that they wish they never had released.
Re: [luau] Redhat 9.0 and video woes
On Tue, Apr 29, 2003 at 12:20:38PM -1000, Matthew John Darnell wrote: Their stance seems a lot of double speak. In the past a dot release meant smaller but significant improvements. A rose by anyother name Can you list particular versions that this applies to? From my vantage point, the .0 releases have always been significant, with the later dot releases as mostly bug fixes. I agree, when I say dot release I mean, 6.1, 7.1, 7.2 etc I saw Red Hat be criticized by the business community for being a moving target, while at the same time not having the latest and greatest packages. Debian and FreeBSD has been doing this for years (stable/testing/unstable and release/stable/current). Although I think their naming convention is a bit odd (it is more of a stable than advanced in my book), I am very glad that they decided to actually have different products aimed at different types of users. When I learned of this, I thought it's about time. I do think these decisions will increase the penetration of Red Hat Linux in the business community. I think its a smart move. They remain open source, gain the help and give back to the community, and are still able to pay their employees so they can eat and keep a roof over their head. For the folks using Red Hat but not paying for RHN, how and how often are you watching for updates? Are you downloading updates nightly via alternative means? Have you subscribed to Bugtraq and Red Hat's security mailing list? If no to any of these, is this an acceptable risk within your network? I have not subscribed to those lists, but I run the up2date tool and it notifies me when there is a package needed to install. My comment about double speak was a reference that they can pour more time and effort into RD by not haveing dot releases. I have loaded evey version of Red Hat since 6.0 and this is the first time I have experienced a problem with basic setup using standard hardware. -Matt
Re: [luau] videl ftp mirror change
The ftp mirror on videl was recently switched from vsftpd to proftpd. With this change, class-based bandwidth controls were added to help give preferential treatment to the UH campus and local Hawaiian ISPs. The current bandwidth cap for unknown IP space is capped at 400kbps / 50KBps per IP. If your IP does not fall within the following netblocks, then your downloads will be penalized until you send me _privately_ your IP range. Public replies to this message containing requests will be ignored. 128.171.0.0/16# UH 64.29.64.0/19 # netenterprise.com 64.65.64.0/18 # lava.net 66.180.128.0/19 # netenterprise.com 206.126.0.0/20# flex.com 216.235.32.0/19 # oceanic.com I am currently getting the following error when connecting to Videl
Re: [luau] videl ftp mirror change
The ftp mirror on videl was recently switched from vsftpd to proftpd. With this change, class-based bandwidth controls were added to help give preferential treatment to the UH campus and local Hawaiian ISPs. The current bandwidth cap for unknown IP space is capped at 400kbps / 50KBps per IP. If your IP does not fall within the following netblocks, then your downloads will be penalized until you send me _privately_ your IP range. Public replies to this message containing requests will be ignored. 128.171.0.0/16# UH 64.29.64.0/19 # netenterprise.com 64.65.64.0/18 # lava.net 66.180.128.0/19 # netenterprise.com 206.126.0.0/20# flex.com 216.235.32.0/19 # oceanic.com I am currently getting the following error when connecting to Videl 530 Too many users in your class, please try again later. Is this because my IP isn't in the list above? Can we raise the limit for concurrent connections? -Matt
Re: [luau] Redhat 9.0 and video woes
I am running RH 9.0 (fresh install) on my Toshiba Satellite 1415 - S173 with Invidia GeForce 420 Go graphics controller. RH 8.0 Ran fine with this setup. Whenever the screen blanks and I wake up the laptop the creen in divided into 2 sections Horizontally. The tool bar that resides on the bottom of the screen is in the middle of the screen. I have disabled Power Management and the screen saver to no avail The problem is alleviated when I log out of X and log back in. It really is rather irritating to have to keep doing this. Especially when working on a document. I have a machine here that won't start the 9.0 graphical setup. 8.0 works fine as does Windoze 2000, trying Mandrake 9.1. I guess RH 9.1 will fix some video issues. I wonder if they rushed 9.0 to keep on the same numbering generation as Mandrake. 9.0 seemed to come out quickly after 8.0. Didn't the 7.X go as high as 7.2? -Matt
Re: [luau] How can I determine the location of the cgi-bin
I think I might have found it at /var/www/cgi-bin but I am unable to run the http://127.0.0.1/cgi-bin/test-cgi My browers gives me this error: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /cgi-bin/test-cgi on this server. Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.23 Server at 127.0.0.1 Port 80 The error_log has entries client denied by server configuration I was looking for the test-cgi file from a site that was talking about Apache on OSX, not sute how similar the configs are. Did I find the right directory, if I did, how can I test the test-cgi - I did a chmod 755 on the file, that didn't help. Thanks again, Matt - Original Message - From: Matthew Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:08 PM Subject: [luau] How can I determine the location of the cgi-bin Aloha, I am trying to find the cgi-bin for the apache web server. I have a Mandrake 8.2 install. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Aloha, Matt ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
Re: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project
Brian, I think you have mistyped your ultimate bbq signature. If I correct it to geocities, it works fine. Aloha, Matt - Original Message - From: Brian Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:56 AM Subject: RE: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project Aloha Jeff, I think I can do the haul. Give me a call so I can work out the details with you :) Thanks, Brian Brian Low SecurityX 1515 Nuuanu Ave. #555 Honolulu, HI 96817 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (808) 371-3571 Check out the Ultimate BBQ at http://www.geocites.com/techguyshi/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeff Zidek Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [luau] Need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project I need a volunteer to haul 30 17 monitors to Mid Pacific Institute for LTSP lab project. The monitors are at Hickam AFB, and need to be gone by Monday of next week at the latest. I have a truck but they said someone else from the project needed to pick them up and sign for them. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Jeff Zidek An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind. -Wisdom from Mohatma Ghandi- ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau ___ LUAU mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mailman/listinfo/luau
[luau] Last Chance for the Suse 6.1 before it gets tossed
If you want the Suse 6.1 CDs (4 total) and manual let me know.
[luau] Suse 6.1
I have a copy of Suse 6.1 (I think the current version is 8.0) if anyone wants it. It has the original 4 CDs and the manual. The CDs appear to be in good shape. If you want them please reply and you can pick them up downtown. -Matt
[luau] KDE 3.02
Aloha, I am looking at all the files in the ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/kde/stable/3.0.2/Mandrake/8.2/ directory. Is there an RPM I should load first that will get the rest loading? I am on Mandrake 8.2. Thanks, Matt
