Re: [LUAU] Loading a tar.gz file in Debian Linux

2005-02-24 Thread Vince Hoang
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 06:27:35PM -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anybody know the best directory to open the gui window manager
 xfce from a tar.gz file.

You mean install from source? Untar it and read the INSTALL file.
Or bail on the source package install and use a _supported_
package.

 This Debian Linux version is sarge. I am a FreeBSD person
 and the file structure in sarge is not easy to figure out.   

It is all *nix under the hood.

I think you are referring to the SysV layout of /etc. Order
Nemeth's _Linux Aministration Handbook_ and google for Linux's
Filesystem Hierarchy Standard while you wait for it to ship.

 Like I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command
 line.

Neither do I. `rm /etc/rc?.d/S???dm`

 So I have finally, after reading the top complaints on
 the Debian list, figured out how to start a gui under level 3
 when you need to have it. I want to have a simple gui XFCE3,
 not KDE and only XFCE4 is available on the apt-get.

Like in your prior question about XFCE3 on FreeBSD, skip it and
install XFCE4; this time via apt.

-Vince


Re: [LUAU] Loading a tar.gz file in Debian Linux

2005-02-24 Thread webmas...@hawaiidakine.com

Vince Hoang wrote:

On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 06:27:35PM -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Anybody know the best directory to open the gui window manager
xfce from a tar.gz file.



You mean install from source? Untar it and read the INSTALL file.
Or bail on the source package install and use a _supported_
package.


This Debian Linux version is sarge. I am a FreeBSD person
and the file structure in sarge is not easy to figure out.   



It is all *nix under the hood.

I think you are referring to the SysV layout of /etc. Order
Nemeth's _Linux Aministration Handbook_ and google for Linux's
Filesystem Hierarchy Standard while you wait for it to ship.



Like I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command
line.



Neither do I. `rm /etc/rc?.d/S???dm`



So I have finally, after reading the top complaints on
the Debian list, figured out how to start a gui under level 3
when you need to have it. I want to have a simple gui XFCE3,
not KDE and only XFCE4 is available on the apt-get.



Like in your prior question about XFCE3 on FreeBSD, skip it and
install XFCE4; this time via apt.

-Vince
___
LUAU@lists.hosef.org mailing list
http://lists.hosef.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/luau



Hi Vince,

I tried xfce4 and do not like it. I can get xfce3 to work on FreeBSD 
with the patch. All the icons are missing from 4 that we use in common 
on all our boxes is another reason.


I havent done Linux for about 4 years and you are right the SysV is just 
different enough to be confusing. There are now 2 layouts for FreeBSD 4 
and 5 and they are somewhat diffrent from each other and I have coped 
with that so I hope to survive this too.


I have the 3rd edition of that Administration Hand book and I'll see 
what will refresh my memory from that. Thanks for the tip.


Aloha!


Al Plant -Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com
Supporting Open Source in computing with FreeBSD 4.9
Failure only happens when you stop trying. - Omar Periu




Re: [LUAU] Loading a tar.gz file in Debian Linux

2005-02-24 Thread Jim Thompson


On Feb 24, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Vince Hoang wrote:

On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 06:27:35PM -1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Like I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command
line.


Neither do I. `rm /etc/rc?.d/S???dm`


Uh, thats a bit brute-force, don't you think?

You can do this in several supported ways that are less likely to 
break your system.


	•  Simply remove gdm, kdm and xdm  packages (not the best strategy, 
unless you've determined that you won't use them at all)

or
	•  Delete the one and only line in /etc/X11/default-display-manager 
(though this it affects all runlevels)


or the recommended way

	•  Delete all gdm, kdm and xdm (or just the one mentioned in 
/etc/X11/default-display-manager) links in /etc/rc[X].d/ with the
	tool called  update-rc.d or install the rcconf dpkg (rcconf is like 
RedHat/Fedora's sysconfig). Here [X] is your runlevel. 

For example: update-rc.d -f xdm remove removes xdm from all runleves.

	If you want to have xdm enabled on some specific runlevel, then after 
removing  type update-rc.d xdm start 99 3 ..

to add an xdm startup link in runlevel 3.

To change the display manager

• In Debian, type dpkg-reconfigure  xdm and make your choice.
	•  Or, if you like to do it the old way, edit 
/etc/X11/default-display-manager


All that said, I only run debian on the colo boxes, and that only 
because its too difficult to change now.   The desktop here is gentoo.


Jim



Re: [LUAU] Loading a tar.gz file in Debian Linux

2005-02-24 Thread Gary Sublett
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:27:35 -1000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Linux people,
 
 I am helping a friend with a Debian install.
 
 Anybody know the best directory to open the gui window manager xfce
 from a tar.gz file. This Debian Linux version  is sarge. I am a
 FreeBSD person and the file structure in sarge is not easy to figure
 out. Like I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command
 line. So I have finally, after reading the top complaints on the
 Debian list, figured out how to start a gui under level 3  when you
 need to have it. 
 I want to have a simple gui XFCE3, not KDE and only XFCE4 is 
 available on the apt-get.
 
 Any help appreciated.

http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/

- ---
 14:43:03  up 32 days, 16:17,  2 users,  load average: 0.22, 0.32, 0.18

-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux)

iD8DBQFCHi55sU4FV1lLQCQRAou5AJ0RFwDR7NR+z8fBw0YZxlfmNPlrIgCfRguT
nNmR42d5fztlauRISje5/AI=
=sWh9
-END PGP SIGNATURE-


Re: [LUAU] Loading a tar.gz file in Debian Linux

2005-02-24 Thread Vince Hoang
On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 09:36:39AM -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
 Neither do I. `rm /etc/rc?.d/S???dm`
 
 Uh, thats a bit brute-force, don't you think?

I used to `update-rc.d -f xdm remove`, but that removed all the
symlinks. By removing only the S* symlinks, the K* symlinks stick
around and upgrade-rc.d is not triggered during an upgrade.
Otherwise, when xdm was upgraded, update-rc.d reruns and adds all
the symlinks back.

 All that said, I only run debian on the colo boxes, and that
 only because its too difficult to change now.

*chuckle*

-Vince


[LUAU] Loading a tar.gz file in Debian Linux

2005-02-23 Thread webmas...@hawaiidakine.com

Hi Linux people,

I am helping a friend with a Debian install.

Anybody know the best directory to open the gui window manager xfce from 
a tar.gz file. This Debian Linux version  is sarge. I am a FreeBSD 
person and the file structure in sarge is not easy to figure out. Like 
I don't want a gui boot up I want to start with a command line. So I 
have finally, after reading the top complaints on the Debian list, 
figured out how to start a gui under level 3  when you need to have it. 
   I want to have a simple gui XFCE3, not KDE and only XFCE4 is 
available on the apt-get.


Any help appreciated.

Al Plant -Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com
Supporting Open Source in computing with FreeBSD 4.9
Failure only happens when you stop trying. - Omar Periu