Re: [luau] OSEF status?
Yea, The sparc 5, 10, and 20 are all slow old 32 bit machines, but they make great network devices and solid low bandwidth servers. As an OpenBSD router, firewall, mail or webserver they are great. There isn't much up-to- date Linux for Sun hardware, except Suse 7.3. Gentoo would probally run really nice on there, but would take a year to compile! They work with X, but you have to get over the 8 bit color. If 8 bit color doesn't bother you they would make great thin clients using The SPARC-Linux Xterminal Package (http://www.pucebaboon.com/SLXT/). Since we don't have keyboards for these they will be better as network devices or servers. The Sun 4m hardware is great. Dusty > Vince Hoang wrote: > >>Are those sparc or ultrasparc stations? If they are the prior, >>they are a bit slow to function as graphical terminal servers. >>They make nice bridges or routers if there are space SBUS NICs. >>Using them as clients to setup a Solaris JumpStart lab would be >>another use. >> >>As a metric, it took me about 20 minutes to generate the DSA host key >>after a fresh installation of OpenBSD on a sparc2. >> > I am not sure, but I think that they are just sparc stations. That is > a painfully slow metric; I understand what you mean. >
Re: [luau] OSEF status?
Vince Hoang wrote: Are those sparc or ultrasparc stations? If they are the prior, they are a bit slow to function as graphical terminal servers. They make nice bridges or routers if there are space SBUS NICs. Using them as clients to setup a Solaris JumpStart lab would be another use. As a metric, it took me about 20 minutes to generate the DSA host key after a fresh installation of OpenBSD on a sparc2. I am not sure, but I think that they are just sparc stations. That is a painfully slow metric; I understand what you mean. We have nearly 30 power pcs that may or may not be usable, but, it sure would be nice to do something with them. They would make decent low end web servers. The best part about this platform is that it would take a lot for a script kiddie to find a working exploit. I had the most luck with Debian in the past. Excellent suggestion. I have been wondering if they could work as thin clients, but, free standing debian workstations is a good thing. I love debian on my ibook. Hope to see you at some of the upcoming build/install fests. scott
Re: [luau] OSEF status?
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 08:35:42PM -1000, R. Scott Belford wrote: > We have about 20 sparc 2, 5, 10, and 20 stations, about 7 sun > monitors, and one sun keyboard/mouse. We need someone with > some Sun expertise to help. Are those sparc or ultrasparc stations? If they are the prior, they are a bit slow to function as graphical terminal servers. They make nice bridges or routers if there are space SBUS NICs. Using them as clients to setup a Solaris JumpStart lab would be another use. As a metric, it took me about 20 minutes to generate the DSA host key after a fresh installation of OpenBSD on a sparc2. > We have nearly 30 power pcs that may or may not be usable, but, > it sure would be nice to do something with them. They would make decent low end web servers. The best part about this platform is that it would take a lot for a script kiddie to find a working exploit. I had the most luck with Debian in the past. -Vince
Re: [luau] OSEF status?
Scott, I can help with the Sparcs. I think I will be filming this tuesday, but maybe next? Dusty > Also, moving forward, I am going to try to create more opportunities > for us to deploy computers. Starting this Tuesday, I am going to be > at the lab we have set up at Pricebuster's Stadium Store from 6-9 p.m. > I will be there each Tuesday during this time in December. I will be > there on Saturday from 5-8 p.m. I will devote three hours each > Saturday for the month of December. We have nearly 30 p.c.'s that > need to be checked out and tested. We have about 20 sparc 2, 5, 10, > and 20 stations, about 7 sun monitors, and one sun keyboard/mouse. We > need someone with some Sun expertise to help. We have nearly 30 power > pcs that may or may not be usable, but, it sure would be nice to do > something with them.
Re: [luau] OSEF status?
right on Scott, thx for keeping us in the loop. I'd be interesting in helping out on the weekends. Definitely interested in the progression of HOSEF, Ho'ala R. Scott Belford said: > We are not official in the sense of having a T.I.N. We are official in > the sense of mission, name, (Hawai'i Open Source Education Foundation) > Articles of Incorporation. The attempt to involve many people in the > creation has taken too long. We were just meeting in town to talk > about the Voyager School Project, and Jeff Zidek was asking the same > question. > It has taken an embarrassingly long time. The ducks are in a row, so > to speak. I've decided to file everything this week. The best thing > about it is that if anyone is uncomfortable with a specific detail, > they can change it. The time has come to put collaboration aside for > the sake of action.
Re: [luau] OSEF status?
Ho'ala Greevy wrote: quick question for the list, I've seen the thread several times before but am still nebulous: Is the Open Source Education Foundation officially a non-profit entity? Also, is that the agreed upon name for the org? We are not official in the sense of having a T.I.N. We are official in the sense of mission, name, (Hawai'i Open Source Education Foundation) Articles of Incorporation. The attempt to involve many people in the creation has taken too long. We were just meeting in town to talk about the Voyager School Project, and Jeff Zidek was asking the same question. It has taken an embarrassingly long time. The ducks are in a row, so to speak. I've decided to file everything this week. The best thing about it is that if anyone is uncomfortable with a specific detail, they can change it. The time has come to put collaboration aside for the sake of action. With 2002 coming to a close, local businesses will be looking to minimize taxable income by placing donations to their favorite organizations... Period. Some people, like Sandy and Dusty, have made donations. We are sponsored now by Mid-Pac, so at least they have this. It is likely that by the time they get ready to file, we will have our own status for them. I hate that it has dragged on like this for the very reason you just raised, it is write-off time. I made a commitment to Jeff that by next weekend there will be a page with the mission, articles, filing status. and any other relevant information for he and others to sink their teeth into. Also, moving forward, I am going to try to create more opportunities for us to deploy computers. Starting this Tuesday, I am going to be at the lab we have set up at Pricebuster's Stadium Store from 6-9 p.m. I will be there each Tuesday during this time in December. I will be there on Saturday from 5-8 p.m. I will devote three hours each Saturday for the month of December. We have nearly 30 p.c.'s that need to be checked out and tested. We have about 20 sparc 2, 5, 10, and 20 stations, about 7 sun monitors, and one sun keyboard/mouse. We need someone with some Sun expertise to help. We have nearly 30 power pcs that may or may not be usable, but, it sure would be nice to do something with them. If you can help with any of this, then you are welcome. If you just want to help sort cables or watch, then, you are welcome. I'll make the offer that if you want to use these times as a steady and scheduled installfest, then I will help any one who wants to put Linux on their PC or Mac. In exchange you can help sort cables or something. Hopefully by keeping the lab open at steady times, we can get more hands involved. thx, Ho'ala Thanks for asking, Ho'ala. I regret that it has taken this long to formally incorporate. I suppose it is good, though, because we have a BUNCH of stuff with more on the way, we have interested schools, and we have very FEW hands to help right now. I never envisioned labor being the bottleneck, but it is rapidly becoming one. A teacher at Wailua High School has asked for a station. scott
[luau] OSEF status?
quick question for the list, I've seen the thread several times before but am still nebulous: Is the Open Source Education Foundation officially a non-profit entity? Also, is that the agreed upon name for the org? With 2002 coming to a close, local businesses will be looking to minimize taxable income by placing donations to their favorite organizations... thx, Ho'ala
