RE: [luau] Linux makes the cover of Business Week

2003-02-22 Thread LinuxDan
Scott
 How can you say this when there are three non-profits
here on Oahu that support Opensource. Not only that but your one of your
Directors of HOSEF personally threatened the DOE, that is Warren Togami who
threatened Wes Koga. Why would someone be so stupid to threaten the DOE on
Oahu with a LAWSUIT if he wasn't allowed to install an Opensource network in
the public schools.  How do you think I received this information and who do
you think has the public school contacts for all the network coordinators
and even their personal cells in some cases.  Your HOSEF group has given the
Opensource movement a black eye.  Remember the guote: "The enemy is We" ,
well that refers to YOU so Bill Gates is less of a threat to the Opensource
movement.  With two hours of mediation we were able to strike a deal with
the DOE and save Opensource Projects.  You wanted facts, well there you go!
Our group is growing so quick that we have to redo the list of officers and
believe it or not they are NOT on the LUAU and some founded the LUAU. If you
cant take any criticism (legend in your own mind) then go home to mommy
because your acting as a child
and you couldn't Direct your way out of the restroom.  The TROLL is also
YOU.

PS. Your HOSEF site sucks!
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/toc/03_09/B382203linux.htm

Above is the link to the online article.  Don't you feel the change coming?
Aren't you glad that you belong to an Open Souce community like LUAU?  Other
than getting frustrated with the occasional flames on this list, what have
you done to make the Open Source world better today?  Exactly.

Tuesday's and Saturday's we gather to do good things.  We do not fan flames
started by mischievous trolls.  We do tangible work intended for the schools
and other non-profits.  We are Hawaii's only PUBLICLY disclosed non-profit
that invites the public to help.  We are HOSEF, we support our LUAU, and we
are much more resilient than a few trolls.  Let's go.

scott
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Re: [luau] Linux makes the cover of Business Week

2003-02-22 Thread Jim

LinuxDan wrote:

Scott
 How can you say this when there are three non-profits
here on Oahu that support Opensource  Remember the guote: "The enemy 

> is We" ,...

Believe it was Pogo who said;"We have met the enemy and he is us"
possibly Walt Kelley,the author,who put that in his mouth.




Re: [luau] Linux makes the cover of Business Week

2003-02-23 Thread Dan

Correct!

 Six months ago I made a suggestion to the group that the chit chat be
trimmed down to business conversations and that "inflamed" some EGOs.  But
remember long before I signed on the list some of  who already split from
the group over petty bickering. Maybe the problem wasnt the people who left
but the ones who remained. That is since the problem still remains.

What I meant by that was that the negatives being displayed outside in the
real world reflect back on the Opensource movement as a whole.  Im afraid
that many times people fail to realize that there is a difference between
life on the college campus and how you do business in the real world.
Whenever someone fails to face that and give proper respect to those who
have done business in the real world for over 20 years successfully then you
are doomed to failure.  Dont expect to get the support of the "BIG GUNS"
here on Oahu with that kind of attitude. Thus came the POGO analogy and why
so many people with great potential are going to unsubscribe.

Thus was my response from the TROLL statement.
If that TROLL statement wasnt made to INFLAME some people then some who made
that statement has their head in the wrong area. Also the statement that if
you dont like the way we do business than unsubscribe then so be it. If you
cant take suggestions or turn suggestions into criticism then get your EGO
in check.

Dan

> LinuxDan wrote:
> > Scott
> >  How can you say this when there are three
non-profits
> > here on Oahu that support Opensource  Remember the guote: "The enemy
>  > is We" ,...
>
> Believe it was Pogo who said;"We have met the enemy and he is us"
> possibly Walt Kelley,the author,who put that in his mouth.
>
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