Re: [luau] Oracle 9i on Linux

2002-08-15 Thread al plant
Warren Togami wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 11:06, W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
> > Hi, Warren-
> >
> > I have a spare 1.0 GHz Athlon T-Bird with 256 MB PC133 SDRAM.  It works
> > great.
> >
> > If the school is willing to chip in another 256 MB of RAM (should be
> > less than $50), I can donate it to them.
> 
> Yes!  That would be great for an Oracle learning server for the school.
> I am sure that they would buy additional RAM for it.
> 
> Wayne, please give me a call when you have a chance.
> 
> Thanks,
> Warren
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RE: [luau] Oracle 9i on Linux

2002-08-15 Thread Vikram Khurana
I have installed Oracle 9i server on Windows before. But not sure I can
help with a Linux install. A Linux install is a completely different
ballgame considering my experience with an Oracle client install on
Linux recently.
I might however be able to provide some good scripts/documentation on
how to go about doing it in Linux. Please let me know if you need me to
do that 

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Subject: Re: [luau] Oracle 9i on Linux

On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 10:02, Vikram Khurana wrote:
> The high price maybe because they have Oracle 9i preinstalled on it & 
> hence price includes the Oracle license, which can be expensive..

I learned today that the high price was from the 30 client access
licenses for Windows 2000 Server that were included in the purchase.  I
fixed the lab that the server was intended for today (using Linux), and
advised them to return that Dell server.

Oracle itself is free for educational institutions, IIRC.  I will be
getting the free version and installing it onto Red Hat Linux 7.3.  I
may need help with this as I have not installed Oracle before.



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Re: [luau] Oracle 9i on Linux

2002-08-14 Thread Warren Togami
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 11:06, W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
> Hi, Warren-
> 
> I have a spare 1.0 GHz Athlon T-Bird with 256 MB PC133 SDRAM.  It works 
> great.
> 
> If the school is willing to chip in another 256 MB of RAM (should be 
> less than $50), I can donate it to them.

Yes!  That would be great for an Oracle learning server for the school. 
I am sure that they would buy additional RAM for it.

Wayne, please give me a call when you have a chance.

Thanks,
Warren




Re: [luau] Oracle 9i on Linux

2002-08-14 Thread Warren Togami
On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 10:02, Vikram Khurana wrote:
> The high price maybe because they have Oracle 9i preinstalled on it & 
> hence price includes the Oracle license, which can be expensive..

I learned today that the high price was from the 30 client access
licenses for Windows 2000 Server that were included in the purchase.  I
fixed the lab that the server was intended for today (using Linux), and
advised them to return that Dell server.

Oracle itself is free for educational institutions, IIRC.  I will be
getting the free version and installing it onto Red Hat Linux 7.3.  I
may need help with this as I have not installed Oracle before.





Re: [luau] Oracle 9i on Linux

2002-08-14 Thread Ray Strode
Depends on what they're doing.  For students who will be running 
simple queries on 


small databases, probably.  As Warren points out, this isn't a 
production server.  


Make sure to keep the databases down to a reasonable size and you 
should be fine.  


Remember, people have run SQL servers on much less powerful systems 
than a PII-400. 


You know what? My lack of reading skills made me think this was a server 
for a thin client

lab.  My bad.

--Ray




Re: [luau] Oracle 9i on Linux

2002-08-14 Thread MonMotha

Ray Strode wrote:



Mililani High School needs a server to run Oracle 9i server for roughly
20 simultaneous users.  They had purchased a new Dell server for this
purpose for about $3,300.  Unfortunately they were somehow horribly
ripped off by this purchase, getting only a 1GHz P3 with 512MB RAM.  I
am advising them to return this particular Dell ripoff and use one of
our donated P2 400MHz Dells from the Air Force.
 

Do you think a P2 400MHz is going to be good enough for 20 simultaneous 
clients? I doubt it.


--Ray


Depends on what they're doing.  For students who will be running simple 
queries on small databases, probably.  As Warren points out, this isn't 
a production server.  Make sure to keep the databases down to a 
reasonable size and you should be fine.  Remember, people have run SQL 
servers on much less powerful systems than a PII-400.


--MonMotha



Re: [luau] Oracle 9i on Linux

2002-08-14 Thread Ray Strode



Mililani High School needs a server to run Oracle 9i server for roughly
20 simultaneous users.  They had purchased a new Dell server for this
purpose for about $3,300.  Unfortunately they were somehow horribly
ripped off by this purchase, getting only a 1GHz P3 with 512MB RAM.  I
am advising them to return this particular Dell ripoff and use one of
our donated P2 400MHz Dells from the Air Force.
 

Do you think a P2 400MHz is going to be good enough for 20 simultaneous 
clients? I doubt it.


--Ray



Re: [luau] Oracle 9i on Linux

2002-08-14 Thread Vikram Khurana
Actually I take that back. Oracle 9i server -- Isn't that free for 
Linux? or so I read somewhere


Vikram Khurana wrote:

The high price maybe because they have Oracle 9i preinstalled on it & 
hence price includes the Oracle license, which can be expensive..


Warren Togami wrote:


Mililani High School needs a server to run Oracle 9i server for roughly
20 simultaneous users.  They had purchased a new Dell server for this
purpose for about $3,300.  Unfortunately they were somehow horribly
ripped off by this purchase, getting only a 1GHz P3 with 512MB RAM.  I
am advising them to return this particular Dell ripoff and use one of
our donated P2 400MHz Dells from the Air Force.

However... will Oracle 9i server run fine on a Pentium2 400MHz with
256MB or 512MB RAM?  At maximum it would need to support 20 simultaneous
clients, but they will only use it for students to create small
databases and practice SQL statements against it.  No production use.

Warren Togami
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Re: [luau] Oracle 9i on Linux

2002-08-14 Thread Vikram Khurana
The high price maybe because they have Oracle 9i preinstalled on it & 
hence price includes the Oracle license, which can be expensive..


Warren Togami wrote:


Mililani High School needs a server to run Oracle 9i server for roughly
20 simultaneous users.  They had purchased a new Dell server for this
purpose for about $3,300.  Unfortunately they were somehow horribly
ripped off by this purchase, getting only a 1GHz P3 with 512MB RAM.  I
am advising them to return this particular Dell ripoff and use one of
our donated P2 400MHz Dells from the Air Force.

However... will Oracle 9i server run fine on a Pentium2 400MHz with
256MB or 512MB RAM?  At maximum it would need to support 20 simultaneous
clients, but they will only use it for students to create small
databases and practice SQL statements against it.  No production use.

Warren Togami
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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