[Lubuntu-admins] [Blueprint one-iso-to-rule-them-all] One ISO To Rule Them All
Blueprint changed by Jörn Schönyan: Whiteboard changed: [wxl] It looks like 14.04.2 is facing some issues that will likely result in Alternate not being released for this milestone. The issues that affect Desktop affect everyone, so the Release Team must fix these. If the same fix doesn't apply to Alternates, though, that creates a problem. The Team will still attempt to fix it, but there's no guarantees. At least with LTS images for folks using Alternate, the HWE stack is probably not necessary, but it illustrates the problem. Two possible solutions were discussed with Adam Conrad (infinity): 1. netboot/mini.iso (which, of course, requires an Internet connection and that may be asking a lot) 2. Changing `ubiquity` somehow to minimize resource usage. As an example, making a text-only frontend, but making it part of the project, rather than something separate. Perhaps we could get Server to help out here? Perhaps other flavors would be interested? [wxl] gilir (if I may speak for him after we had a private message) is in support of this cause. He feels `ubiquity` is a very complex piece of software and would rather not touch it, so that leaves us with netboot/mini.iso. It seems that the issue with LTS is that there is this transition from tasks to metapackages for X. Changes to tasks don't get picked up on after release, so metapackages are ultimately the go to solution. Still, tasks have their value, so the future is uncertain, but we'll likely continue to have these problems in the future. This cannot be fixed the same way in desktop as it can in alternate. There's no need to fix it in server because they don't have X packages. So for 14.04.2, we will likely not have any alternates. My concern is that we'll continue to face this over and over again: wasted testing time trying to fix something that only we care about. On the other hand, mini.iso is not without it's issues: 1. An internet connection is required. In the 3rd world, a decent internet connection is a luxury, and yet that is likely where Lubuntu is most needed for old machines. 2. It's terribly unfriendly. Imagine the people that would need it the most. They're the folks with an old XP machine that needs some love. They've never used Linux before. Yeah, they're probably not going to have a fun time. 3. Ethernet only. 4. It's possible to build a broken install. These are not small issues. In a sense, these are almost worse. So perhaps we deal with occasionally not having alternates. If it's going to be an issue, it's likely to be with LTS point releases, and there are solutions around that. They result in long update times, but that seems like a much smaller price to pay. What we really need to do is change `ubiquity`, but i'm not sure that we can get help from the Server Team, other flavors, etc. [wxl] I've reopened this to be the place for a lightweight `ubiquity`. One Button Installer has been presented, but I think that suffers the same problems as all of the others and is probably the most non-standard and user-unfriendly. + + [joern-schoenyan] There is an installer called Calamares, which is + designed to work independent of the distribution. Unfortunately, I'm not + able to package (and then, test) it - I tried it, but there were issues + with the partitionmanager plugin I could not resolve. -- One ISO To Rule Them All https://blueprints.launchpad.net/lubuntu-brainstorming/+spec/one-iso-to-rule-them-all -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-admins Post to : lubuntu-admins@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-admins More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-admins] [Lubuntu-qa] AppGrid for Lubuntu?
Hi everyone, replies inline. On Montag, 28. September 2015 14:18:45 CEST, Rafael Laguna wrote: Hi, guys: Yes, Phill is right. Jörn and I made plans for improving the apps installation in Lubuntu, as well as managing PPAs. We'll have results soon. Jörn is working hard on it. Yes - I don't have a time plan, but the new Software Center will be ready before the release of 16.04, I guess at the end of the year we will have a preview. The Update Manager is ready for testing, but missing 2 or 3 features I really want to have and needs to be a bit more fail-safe, as it wasn't tested under hard conditions (bad or no internet connections and stuff). About App Grid, it needs an Ubuntu One account that sometimes it kicks you out, so it's buggy. Ubuntu MATE is considering adopt it as their own Software Centre and dropping USC which is, in my opinion, a mistake, because the guys in Canonical are also improving USC for the Ubuntu Touch market and the forthcoming Snappy packages. I've tested all the alternative software centers in the past, but not even one satisfied me. But of course, that is only my personal opinion. So I think we're in the right path. I know you don't see much "dev" activity lately, but believe me when I tell you we're working hard on the next LXQt version of Lubuntu and polishing every single detail to improve your desktop experience. Right, I think the new software center could solve some problems we have, make Lubuntu much easier for newcomers and it could be a core feature of Lubuntu. All the things following now are still in the planning and there was no real discussion about it, so this is a great moment for further ideas and improvements, please feel free to comment and express your thoughts about it, I would really appreciate it. The new software center will be in fact a more modern version of our traditional LSC, written in Qt and with a more robust backend for application data (for more informations, google "Appstream"). But I imagine a new feature to customize the Lubuntu experience for the users needs. Some people want an office computer and they should get it. The new software center should be able to "ask" the user what he needs: office suite, graphics software, font managing, driver support for printers from a specific brand or simmilar. Multimedia users may want a tool to cut and convert videos, so they should have a nice collection of tools to choose from. I think there are a lot of simmilar use cases. Afaik Ubuntu MATE has a feature like this in their welcome screen. This would even allow us to ship a minimal (or core) version like Xubuntu does, with only a bare desktop and very limited applications or no applications at all, without leaving users alone in their application choice and initial setup of their machine. Our problem being restricted to an iso size of ~700 megabytes wouldn't hurt that much in the future. I hope my explanation was clear enough, feel free to ask questions about it. Cheers! Rafael Laguna Lubuntu Artwork Team Happy discussions and have a nice week! -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-admins Post to : lubuntu-admins@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-admins More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-admins] [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu Zesty Zapus Alpha 2 has been released!
Since version 49, Firefox needs SSE2 (as Chrome does since ~v35). I assume your CPU doesn't have this extension. Try Midori or Qupzilla. Best regards -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit WEB.DE Mail gesendet.Am 28.01.17, 17:58, Ronald Frye schrieb: Simon, et al... The last release of Firefox for Lubuntu does not work on my laptop. (The Firefox application seems to "barf" when it checks for compatible extensions, ending the application. I've sent the error report to the makers of Firefox, but so far there has been no fix.) Chromium never did work, so I'm no longer able to browse the Web using Lubuntu. What do I do now? Is there someone I can communicate with that can help me with this problem? Ronald Frye -Original Message- From: Simon Quigley Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 6:55 PM To: lubuntu-devel ; lubuntu-admins@lists.launchpad.net ; lubuntu user list Subject: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu Zesty Zapus Alpha 2 has been released! Lubuntu Zesty Zapus Alpha 2 (soon to be 17.04) has been released! We have a couple papercuts listed in the release notes[1], so please take a look. We also have been having some artwork problems that you should be aware of, the details are in the release notes. You can grab the images from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/zesty/alpha-2/ [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZestyZapus/Alpha2/Lubuntu -- Simon Quigley tsimo...@lubuntu.me tsimonq2 on freenode and OFTC 5C7A BEA2 0F86 3045 9CC8 C8B5 E27F 2CF8 458C 2FA4 -- Lubuntu-users mailing list lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Lubuntu-users mailing list lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-admins Post to : lubuntu-admins@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-admins More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
