Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] default music player selection

[Julien Lavergne]

Well I don't know if the choice was done by taking the fact that lxmusic
wasn't working in Karmic. Regarding the vote
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications/MusicAndAudio), seems
there is no real consensus to abandon lxmusic if it's working. It'll be
interesting to do some testing with the new lxmusic, to compare it with
aqualung (memory and cpu usage).

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

Le dimanche 03 janvier 2010 à 23:32 +0500, omer akram a écrit :
> hi, the default music player in the live cd don't look good and needs
> to be changed. i dont find its interface to be attractive plus not
> easy. so i suggest lxmusic i am using lxmusic 0.4.2 at the moment on
> my ubuntu install and it seems to be working well although i have to
> change the default sound device to also at or there was not sound. 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Video player choice

[Julien Lavergne]

For the record, to replace it, gnome-mplayer seems to be the best
choice, if we want to use a mplayer front-end. 

I can't see any advantages to stay with smplayer when gnome-mplayer can
do the same job :
- Use GTK+ (better integration, no additional library in memory) 
- No additional GNOME depends (we already have them)
- Simpler UI (which is more the style of GTK/GNOME/LXDE apps)
- Active upstream

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 19:14 +0100, Julien Lavergne a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I begin this new thread to discuss the video player choice on Lubuntu.
> 
> For now, we have smplayer, which have the problem to depends on QT libs.
> It takes more space on the CD (QT libs only used by smplayer), and may
> take more memory (because of this QT libs). 
> 
> I reported all comments for video player to this page for discussion :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications/Video . Feel free to add
> your comment to the thread or to the wiki page. If you can add some
> benchmarks or testing about your choice, your voice will be more
> important :)
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
> 



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[Lubuntu-desktop] default music player selection

[omer akram]

hi, the default music player in the live cd don't look good and needs to be
changed. i dont find its interface to be attractive plus not easy. so i
suggest lxmusic i am using lxmusic 0.4.2 at the moment on my ubuntu install
and it seems to be working well although i have to change the default sound
device to also at or there was not sound.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 1 "Preview"

[omer akram]

i would suggest change to lxmusic the music player in the live cd is not
good looking at all and lxde website says that a latest version of lxmusic
is released so why not use it. if the latest lxmusic was in the lxde ppa i
would also test it.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Leszek Lesner  wrote:

> It is simply speaking a package repo localy + alternate installer.
> The alternate installer is a simple package to install. The package repo is
> normally a little bit smaller than the livecd files (because the files are
> compressed) but I think we should only consider including the alternate
> installer on cd when we finished considering of the livecd apps (as space
> might get short)
>
>
> Regards,
> Leszek Lesner
>
> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:31:49 +0100
> Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>
> > Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 21:31 +0500, omer akram a écrit :
> > > @Julien
> > >
> > >
> > > >For the alternate, yes but it's something we plan for futur ISO. Once
> > > >the "standard" ISO is well tested, an alternate will be generated
> > > too :)
> > >
> > > this iso size is less than 400mb so why not add the alternate install
> > > feature to the normal live cd?
> > If it's doable yes. I need to study a bit more how we can generated an
> > alternate ISO. It's a bit different than a live-cd ISO.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Julien Lavergne
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubucompilator

[Josh Embrey]

As a beginner developer and programmer, I can appreciate a compiler being
added.  However, the nature of LXDE is lightweight.  My belief is to keep
that as part of the Lubuntu project and keep it with the best aspects of
both Ubuntu and LXDE: Easy for the masses and small in size.  I think making
the compiler available from an official repository later on will be nice,
but adding it into the primary build is excessive.

Just my opinion.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 11:41 AM, gusions  wrote:

> Mmm i think that now Lubuntu is for developers, if you love upgrade your
> software it's a good idea..
>
> Thanks a lot to all!
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubucompilator

[gusions]

Mmm i think that now Lubuntu is for developers, if you love upgrade your
software it's a good idea..

Thanks a lot to all!


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubucompilator

[Dallas Wiebelhaus]

Sorry dude but I don't see any reason why Lubuntu would need a compiler
unless the user decided to use one , But thanks for the heads up , nice
prog. Cheers.

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:58 AM, gusions  wrote:

> Hi i will talk about a new software: Ubucompilator (lubucompilator for
> lxde user)!
>
> Ubucompilator is a new software to improve the user experience at the
> time of compilation!
>
> I will proprose the software at the lubuntu's peopole.
>
> You can look the ubucompilator blog a this adress
> http://ubucompilator.wordpress.com/
>
> Best Regards, Gusions.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice

[omer akram]

well nobody uses email client actually these days but still an email client
is a part of an OS so its necessary to be included. there are many apps that
no one use/some use but still they are part of the OS so an email client is
also a part of the OS so inclding it is important

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Luther Goh Lu Feng  wrote:

> I think there may still be use cases for email clients. For example, my
> less tech savvy colleagues access their company email via Microsoft Outlook.
> For me, I just redirect it to my main email account.
>
>
> *From:* Yotam Medini יותם מדיני 
> *To:* Mario Behling 
> *Cc:* lubuntu-desktop 
> *Sent:* Sun, January 3, 2010 6:28:42 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice
>
> With my GMail account, I use both GMail's web-ui, but I also use local
> mail-client via IMAP4.
> I use the latter, in the following cases:
> + Hebrew text editing (right-to-left)
> + Discussing and quoting programming code.
>For this I like to even use external EDITOR (emacsclient).
> + Attaching several files - which is faster in local client, than a
> safety-paranoid web-browser.
>
> -- yotam
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Mario Behling  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I was also thinking a few days ago about the need for inclusion of a
>> mail client. These days I hardly know anyone using mail clients. Many
>> non-expert users prefer to use webmail. Secondly many power users also
>> use webmail or even a remote server desktop in order to keep their
>> data in one place and easily available even if they change devices.
>>
>> What do you think about it, Julien?
>>
>> Ciao Mario
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice

[Luther Goh Lu Feng]

I think there may still be use cases for email clients. For example, my less 
tech savvy colleagues access their company email via Microsoft Outlook. For me, 
I just redirect it to my main email account.


>
>From: Yotam Medini יותם מדיני 
>To: Mario Behling 
>Cc: lubuntu-desktop 
>Sent: Sun, January 3, 2010 6:28:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice
>
>
>With my GMail account, I use both GMail's web-ui, but I also use local 
>mail-client via IMAP4.
>I use the latter, in the following cases:
>+ Hebrew text editing (right-to-left)
>+ Discussing and quoting programming code.
>>   For this I like to even use external EDITOR (emacsclient).
>+ Attaching several files - which is faster in local client, than a 
>safety-paranoid web-browser.
>
>-- yotam
>
>
>On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Mario Behling  wrote:
>
>Hi,
>>
I was also thinking a few days ago about the need for inclusion of a
mail client. These days I hardly know anyone using mail clients. Many
non-expert users prefer to use webmail. Secondly many power users also
use webmail or even a remote server desktop in order to keep their
data in one place and easily available even if they change devices.
>>
What do you think about it, Julien?
>>
Ciao Mario
>>
>>
>>


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice

[Julien Lavergne]

Hi,

Well, if we continue this way, we can remove all program except the
browser and become a Chrome OS :)

But for the email client, using only the web UI mean you have constantly
a good Internet connexion, you can't do anything offline.

Personally, I alway use a local client, I never find the web UI very
good to use daily.

Also, the gain to remove sylpheed is about 5Mo unpacked, so only a bit
less than 2Mo on the ISO. 

About the choice sylpheed vs claws-mail, the 2 seems good. Memory usage
seems quite the same, main functionality are here, development seems
active (a bit more maybe on claws side). Main difference so far is the
multi-threading of sylpheed, mean you can close it when he's trying to
synchronize an IMAP folder. Regarding the popularity, Claws is more used
on Debian than sylpheed.

So +1 for both for me :D

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

Le dimanche 03 janvier 2010 à 17:08 +0700, Mario Behling a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> I was also thinking a few days ago about the need for inclusion of a
> mail client. These days I hardly know anyone using mail clients. Many
> non-expert users prefer to use webmail. Secondly many power users also
> use webmail or even a remote server desktop in order to keep their
> data in one place and easily available even if they change devices.
> 
> What do you think about it, Julien?
> 
> Ciao Mario
> 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Yotam Medini יותם מדיני
>  wrote:
> > Please consider claws-mail which is derived from sylpheed.
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Following the video player discussion, there is also concern about the
> >> email client. For now, we used sylpheed.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Alpha 1 "Preview"

[Leszek Lesner]

It is simply speaking a package repo localy + alternate installer. 
The alternate installer is a simple package to install. The package repo is 
normally a little bit smaller than the livecd files (because the files are 
compressed) but I think we should only consider including the alternate 
installer on cd when we finished considering of the livecd apps (as space might 
get short) 


Regards,
Leszek Lesner

On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:31:49 +0100
Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le samedi 02 janvier 2010 à 21:31 +0500, omer akram a écrit :
> > @Julien
> > 
> > 
> > >For the alternate, yes but it's something we plan for futur ISO. Once
> > >the "standard" ISO is well tested, an alternate will be generated
> > too :)
> >  
> > this iso size is less than 400mb so why not add the alternate install
> > feature to the normal live cd?
> If it's doable yes. I need to study a bit more how we can generated an
> alternate ISO. It's a bit different than a live-cd ISO.
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
> 
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Ubucompilator

[gusions]

Hi i will talk about a new software: Ubucompilator (lubucompilator for
lxde user)!

Ubucompilator is a new software to improve the user experience at the
time of compilation!

I will proprose the software at the lubuntu's peopole.

You can look the ubucompilator blog a this adress
http://ubucompilator.wordpress.com/

Best Regards, Gusions.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice

[Yotam Medini יותם מדיני]

With my GMail account, I use both GMail's web-ui, but I also use local
mail-client via IMAP4.
I use the latter, in the following cases:
+ Hebrew text editing (right-to-left)
+ Discussing and quoting programming code.
   For this I like to even use external EDITOR (emacsclient).
+ Attaching several files - which is faster in local client, than a
safety-paranoid web-browser.

-- yotam

On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Mario Behling  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was also thinking a few days ago about the need for inclusion of a
> mail client. These days I hardly know anyone using mail clients. Many
> non-expert users prefer to use webmail. Secondly many power users also
> use webmail or even a remote server desktop in order to keep their
> data in one place and easily available even if they change devices.
>
> What do you think about it, Julien?
>
> Ciao Mario
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Email client choice

[Mario Behling]

Hi,

I was also thinking a few days ago about the need for inclusion of a
mail client. These days I hardly know anyone using mail clients. Many
non-expert users prefer to use webmail. Secondly many power users also
use webmail or even a remote server desktop in order to keep their
data in one place and easily available even if they change devices.

What do you think about it, Julien?

Ciao Mario


On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Yotam Medini יותם מדיני
 wrote:
> Please consider claws-mail which is derived from sylpheed.
>
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Following the video player discussion, there is also concern about the
>> email client. For now, we used sylpheed.

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