Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install
On Wed, 12 May 2010 00:03:06 +0100 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: I know that you do not have time to make a minimal iso, however having chatted to some 'nice people' it appears that I (or anyone) should actually be able to do it. It's called remastersys and how it works is at http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/remastersys I've no need to bore you with how it works, simply put - It takes your installed system and creates an iso with an md5 checksum. Thanks for the help. But I think it's too much efforts for us now, as I would like to introduce some facilities for minimal installation. Also, I can re-use my build system for iso to make a minimal one, it's far easier and safe than remasterys the current one. I can't stop you to try this, but if you can wait a week (the time for me to go back to home), it will be available. On a slightly different note, but to save me posting another email to you. I was asking ibuclaw about why the cd would fail self test, yet pass the other md5checksum test. Ibuclaw asked when you would be about, he was running through some stuff with me but it was way over my technical knowledge. He said that he could have a chat with you. As you know, Iain has already provided one patch to lubuntu (pcmanfm) and I count him as one of the 'nice people' I chat to on the 'official' ubuntu area. If you keep an eye on ##ufbt you will be able to see if he is logged on (yes, I have been given permission for you to stalk him on there). I can't really help until I'll be back home, I'll contact him after that. Best regards, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] A Newbie Question about Autostarting
I'm a long-time user of Ubuntu. Lately I've been using Openbox for my WM, so I decided to try Lubuntu and get rid of some unused overhead. I'm also a fan of Conky, and I quickly learned that it didn't get along with pcmanfm. So I've commented it out and am using feh to manage my wallpapers. I like it for its ability to rotate wallpapers on a schedule. After some initial dismay I was pleased to find the option in Preferences to enable window manager desktop menus. A message on here today led me to the Ubuntu wiki page of derivatives, and I was surprised Lubuntu wasn't there. One confusing thing is the number of autostart folders and files. I managed to edit enough of them to get most things the way I want, but I still can't get alarmclock to start even though it runs fine from the menu. Is there an official Lubuntu way to autostart programs? Lane *Lane Lester* The Web Doctor http://www.the-web-doctor.com You can have your own website for just $10+10+10! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] minimal install
Hi Phill, if you in a desperate need of a minimal install cd I can build one. But how should it look like ? A ubuntu minimal CD with all the deb packages using debian installer ? Or a minimal LiveCD with only lxde as a desktop that allows you to install the system with a cli installer ? The first one is a little pain of work. The second one not so much, as I already have a cli installer written for zevenos-neptune (debian based) that will also work flawessly on lubuntu if the dialog package is installed. And btw. I have build my own remastersys kind of tool called remaster-kit that also works flawlessly (yes I had bad experiences with remastersys) with lubuntu (as long as you know something about cli and chroot usage). As it is a kind of dry topic. I made a small video showing both tools. Here is the link: http://blip.tv/file/3612824 (Including a link for the source and deb) All in all I would think making a 'real' minimal InstallCD might be a better solution as it supports more installation methods and special configurations for LVM and encryption. Have fun ;) Am 11.05.2010 23:03, schrieb Phillip Whiteside: Hi Julien, I know that you do not have time to make a minimal iso, however having chatted to some 'nice people' it appears that I (or anyone) should actually be able to do it. It's called remastersys and how it works is at http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/remastersys I've no need to bore you with how it works, simply put - It takes your installed system and creates an iso with an md5 checksum. Once you have (all) stopped laughing, according to the wiki entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remastersys You can make it CLI install. So, I'd follow the minimal install instructions onto a partition then make the iso (in theory). Well, I'm willing to give it a try if you think it may be of help. On a slightly different note, but to save me posting another email to you. I was asking ibuclaw about why the cd would fail self test, yet pass the other md5checksum test. Ibuclaw asked when you would be about, he was running through some stuff with me but it was way over my technical knowledge. He said that he could have a chat with you. As you know, Iain has already provided one patch to lubuntu (pcmanfm) and I count him as one of the 'nice people' I chat to on the 'official' ubuntu area. If you keep an eye on ##ufbt you will be able to see if he is logged on (yes, I have been given permission for you to stalk him on there). Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A Newbie Question about Autostarting
Make a symlink to the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/name.desktop in ~/.config/autostart and it will run. On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.com wrote: I'm a long-time user of Ubuntu. Lately I've been using Openbox for my WM, so I decided to try Lubuntu and get rid of some unused overhead. I'm also a fan of Conky, and I quickly learned that it didn't get along with pcmanfm. So I've commented it out and am using feh to manage my wallpapers. I like it for its ability to rotate wallpapers on a schedule. After some initial dismay I was pleased to find the option in Preferences to enable window manager desktop menus. A message on here today led me to the Ubuntu wiki page of derivatives, and I was surprised Lubuntu wasn't there. One confusing thing is the number of autostart folders and files. I managed to edit enough of them to get most things the way I want, but I still can't get alarmclock to start even though it runs fine from the menu. Is there an official Lubuntu way to autostart programs? Lane *Lane Lester* The Web Doctor http://www.the-web-doctor.com You can have your own website for just $10+10+10! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Desktop icons
Open PCManFM and go to Edit Preferences Desktop. There is an option Manage the desktop and show icon files. Turning this off removes all icons from the desktop. You have to have it, or no icons at all. Your choice. -Andy On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Ted To foru...@theo.to wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me how to make lubuntu stop displaying my root directory on the desktop? Thanks, Ted ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Desktop icons
Hi Andy, There doesn't seem to be a Desktop tab under edit preferences. Thanks, Ted On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Open PCManFM and go to Edit Preferences Desktop. There is an option Manage the desktop and show icon files. Turning this off removes all icons from the desktop. You have to have it, or no icons at all. Your choice. -Andy On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Ted To foru...@theo.to wrote: Hi, Can anyone tell me how to make lubuntu stop displaying my root directory on the desktop? Thanks, Ted ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and high memory consumption
I have installed lubuntu-desktop on my computer which is running Ubuntu 10.04. When I start up Ubuntu and open Terminal and run htop, I see that I'm using 152 MB of RAM. I start Lubuntu and open LXTerminal and run htop, and I'm using 200 MB of RAM! Why does Lubuntu use significantly more RAM then Ubuntu? Keith ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and high memory consumption
That certainly got my attention, since I just switched from U Lucid to L Lucid in hopes of getting a slimmer system. But I can confirm your observations to some extent: Ubuntu Lucid: 157 MB Lubuntu Lucid: 138 MB... but I have pcmanfm disabled so I can run conky, and I have lxpanel disabled so I can run tint2. which may account for the difference in our reports. Lane On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Keith Clark keithcl...@k-wbookworm.comwrote: I have installed lubuntu-desktop on my computer which is running Ubuntu 10.04. When I start up Ubuntu and open Terminal and run htop, I see that I'm using 152 MB of RAM. I start Lubuntu and open LXTerminal and run htop, and I'm using 200 MB of RAM! Why does Lubuntu use significantly more RAM then Ubuntu? Keith ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and high memory consumption
1. This may be caused by bugs in ureadahead. Rebooting for several times might fix this. On my box, Lubuntu uses less RAM than yours so I cannot reproduce this. 2. PCManFM2 can work well with concky if your concky is configured correctly. There is a blog post on http://blog.lxde.org/ for this issue. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Lane Lester lles...@info-fast.com wrote: That certainly got my attention, since I just switched from U Lucid to L Lucid in hopes of getting a slimmer system. But I can confirm your observations to some extent: Ubuntu Lucid: 157 MB Lubuntu Lucid: 138 MB... but I have pcmanfm disabled so I can run conky, and I have lxpanel disabled so I can run tint2. which may account for the difference in our reports. Lane On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Keith Clark keithcl...@k-wbookworm.com wrote: I have installed lubuntu-desktop on my computer which is running Ubuntu 10.04. When I start up Ubuntu and open Terminal and run htop, I see that I'm using 152 MB of RAM. I start Lubuntu and open LXTerminal and run htop, and I'm using 200 MB of RAM! Why does Lubuntu use significantly more RAM then Ubuntu? Keith ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
