Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:12:35 +0100 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Goh, I'm not quite sure how to explain this to you? Rule #1 You install *buntu it works, if it does not work it does not break anything. At present it can totally break things. There is no point arguing over it, just go see the forum area for people for whom it has broken there is no point saying that it is does not, as there are a lot of people saying that it does. The problems with grub2 and Win7 were bad enough under the 'older' grub2. You do not seem to have read through that thread fully some links to read, Phillip, have read your links above. To add, there are some problems not in your links related to Dell's recovery system, raid, lvm and others...but not to denigrate your specific issue which is the failure to install by install grub-pc and you have found success by sudo apt-get install grub-pc; yes, you're right, I cannot see the point arguing that it should just work with install grub-pc and not just sudo apt-get install grub-pc. You do not seem to have read how to use 'sudo' and 'apt-get' rather than understanding how to install grub. Are there any more specific issues with grub you like to bring up rather than saying I haven't read fully? Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
hi Goh, yes, there is, it is *not* a dell issue, as is clearly explained, also the work around for a bug that one of the devs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/496435/comments/6 says is not fully tested, the consensus of those who are dealing with problems over at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1516153 is still to use still to use dpkg-reconfigure and not apt-get etc. I'm awaiting the guy who writes up a lot of documentation that we mere mortals use to refer to in order to have a chat with him, I have a strong sense that he will also shrug his shoulders and say that the grub team have messed up (again) and to continue to use the dpkg-reconfigure option. I recall that grub2 came out and totally broke RAID support. They have been playing catch up ever since. Given the chance, I'd use burg as it is more pro-active and re-active to problems. I really do not know why we are arguing over this? Grub 2 can cause major problems when there is more than one hard disk involved - that is beyond dispute. In 9.10 it cannot support RAID, with 10.04 we got a newer version that gave some RAID support, but they would not back port it, when 10.04 came out it had a big fall out with Win7. - that is still a 'work around'. Such a basic part of *nix should not need 'work-arounds', n00bs will not that there is one - It must be sorted out. Should not we be trying to help the OP, it is quite evident there is a problem and people get annoyed over having their computer in a non booting mode? Regardless of any sleek looking graphics, let us not fall into the trap that Microsoft did with Service Pack 2 for XP. When we do tempt people over to *nix, if their first introduction to it is a broken system they will not only never come back, they will tell everyone that *nix breaks computers. That is not acceptable, we are in the hands of the Grub people - so people should complain there and we should ensure that people asking why lubuntu does not work in such situations are clearly told that it is not a fault of lubuntu. Regards, Phill. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:12:35 +0100 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Goh, I'm not quite sure how to explain this to you? Rule #1 You install *buntu it works, if it does not work it does not break anything. At present it can totally break things. There is no point arguing over it, just go see the forum area for people for whom it has broken there is no point saying that it is does not, as there are a lot of people saying that it does. The problems with grub2 and Win7 were bad enough under the 'older' grub2. You do not seem to have read through that thread fully some links to read, Phillip, have read your links above. To add, there are some problems not in your links related to Dell's recovery system, raid, lvm and others...but not to denigrate your specific issue which is the failure to install by install grub-pc and you have found success by sudo apt-get install grub-pc; yes, you're right, I cannot see the point arguing that it should just work with install grub-pc and not just sudo apt-get install grub-pc. You do not seem to have read how to use 'sudo' and 'apt-get' rather than understanding how to install grub. Are there any more specific issues with grub you like to bring up rather than saying I haven't read fully? Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
On 06/27/2010 03:33 PM, Phillip Whiteside wrote: hi Goh, yes, there is, it is *not* a dell issue, as is clearly explained, also the work around for a bug that one of the devs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/496435/comments/6 says is not fully tested, the consensus of those who are dealing with problems over at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1516153 is still to use still to use dpkg-reconfigure and not apt-get etc. First, alpha versions are not for Newbies, these are for people who are helping to test and report bugs. Problems with alpha's are to be expected. People are always reminded non-final releases are not meant for production and tend to break. So if someone complains his alpha version is buggy and the developers are not doing their job, you know where they should be told to go. I'm awaiting the guy who writes up a lot of documentation that we mere mortals use to refer to in order to have a chat with him, I have a strong sense that he will also shrug his shoulders and say that the grub team have messed up (again) and to continue to use the dpkg-reconfigure option. I recall that grub2 came out and totally broke RAID support. They have been playing catch up ever since. Given the chance, I'd use burg as it is more pro-active and re-active to problems. I really do not know why we are arguing over this? Grub 2 can cause major problems when there is more than one hard disk involved - that is beyond dispute. In 9.10 it cannot support RAID, with 10.04 we got a newer version that gave some RAID support, but they would not back port it, when 10.04 came out it had a big fall out with Win7. - that is still a 'work around'. Raid/LVM issues are settled as of... http://grub.enbug.org/LVMandRAID and can't you do a simple grub-install --root-directory=. (with sudo of course) instead as 'backport'? Such a basic part of *nix should not need 'work-arounds', n00bs will not that there is one - It must be sorted out. Should not we be trying to help the OP, it is quite evident there is a problem and people get annoyed over having their computer in a non booting mode? Regardless of any sleek looking graphics, let us not fall into the trap that Microsoft did with Service Pack 2 for XP. When we do tempt people over to *nix, if their first introduction to it is a broken system they will not only never come back, they will tell everyone that *nix breaks computers. That is not acceptable, we are in the hands of the Grub people - so people should complain there and we should ensure that people asking why lubuntu does not work in such situations are clearly told that it is not a fault of lubuntu. Yes, we should always try to help anyone who needs help. Even with people on maverick alpha #one#. (That's where it's at, my goodness). But to have a problem and to lash out is not acceptable, even with final released versions. Phillip, if you are the 'philinux' at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1516153 you should be in a position to understand this more than others. I am surprised that this needs even be mentioned. If you are not, then I reiterate some basic points o Alpha versions are not meant for production, and tend to break. It is *not* recommended for 'normal' use but experienced users are welcome to *test* and report any bugs. Bear in mind it may render the whole system unusable and a complete reinstall may be necessary. o A basic code of conduct on *ubuntu's mailing list can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct I suggest a reread and adherence to it. o This mailing list is to ask for help and to provide it. Not to rant, troll or ... Phillip, or Quynh, again, is there any specific grub issue affecting you that you want addressed? I may not have all the answers and perhaps a bug report may indeed needed be filed, but what is it that needs to be brought up? Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
On 06/27/2010 04:39 PM, Goh Lip wrote: On 06/27/2010 03:33 PM, Phillip Whiteside wrote: hi Goh, yes, there is, it is *not* a dell issue, as is clearly explained, also the work around for a bug that one of the devs A small point not included in my previous post, it is resolved by removing Dell DataSafe , refer https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/482757 But then again, I wonder why are we talking about this? Is it affecting you? Are you bringing up all these issues to justify why grub is unusable to the majority of users? That you want to to remove it? Use burg? LILO, anyone? Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Slideshow for Lubuntu installation
Hi, I need help :) Currently, there is no slideshow when you install Lubuntu. Technically, it shouldn't be a problem. But we need some text to put on the slides :) I set up a wiki page for this, with proposal of slides : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/Slideshow I need some feedback about them : - if importants features are missing in the slideshow - if other slides are necessary, or if some are not needed - proposal for content of each slide Just a note, we are not sure which music player we will ship, so no need to add one for this yet. It will be nice to have the content ready quickly, to be able to translate it in many languages. Code if people want to test : https://code.launchpad.net/~gilir/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/lubuntu Start ./test-slideshow.sh to test it. Comments are welcome :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] artwork updated
Looks awesome, shame that It's unlikely that I'll be around when 10.10 comes out :( 2010/6/27 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le samedi 26 juin 2010 à 21:31 +0200, 神癒礁湖 · Rafael Laguna a écrit : Hi again, boys and girls: I've updated (again and again, don't care, it's my job) the artwork for testing purposes only: * The GTK theme now is based on last Clearlooks engine, that does't use GDK, it's Cairo based, even more spedd than using Murrina engine. It was a request from a few users, they told me not to use too many engines (Aurora, Murrine, etc) to keep Lubuntu simple and fast. * The wallpaper is now just a variation from the 10.04 one, according (fully agree) with the classic Lubuntu style. * The Openbox theme has been polished a bit (and GTK theme matches aswell). * ...more and amazing changes to come! :) Please, feel free to test and comment / criticize your suggestions. Thank you all. With the link : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Maverick/LxDesign Thanks Rafael :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
I'd just like to add one thing that EVERYBODY is forgettin GRUB IS NOT THE *ONLY* BOOTLOADER Try LILO, It is a perfectly fine bootloader, or am I just thinking outside the box here and being too radical. Just because Grub is default in Ubuntu doesn't mean it is the best solution. You could also try BURG -Andy On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 08:33 +0100, Phillip Whiteside wrote: hi Goh, yes, there is, it is not a dell issue, as is clearly explained, also the work around for a bug that one of the devs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/496435/comments/6 says is not fully tested, the consensus of those who are dealing with problems over at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1516153 is still to use still to use dpkg-reconfigure and not apt-get etc. I'm awaiting the guy who writes up a lot of documentation that we mere mortals use to refer to in order to have a chat with him, I have a strong sense that he will also shrug his shoulders and say that the grub team have messed up (again) and to continue to use the dpkg-reconfigure option. I recall that grub2 came out and totally broke RAID support. They have been playing catch up ever since. Given the chance, I'd use burg as it is more pro-active and re-active to problems. I really do not know why we are arguing over this? Grub 2 can cause major problems when there is more than one hard disk involved - that is beyond dispute. In 9.10 it cannot support RAID, with 10.04 we got a newer version that gave some RAID support, but they would not back port it, when 10.04 came out it had a big fall out with Win7. - that is still a 'work around'. Such a basic part of *nix should not need 'work-arounds', n00bs will not that there is one - It must be sorted out. Should not we be trying to help the OP, it is quite evident there is a problem and people get annoyed over having their computer in a non booting mode? Regardless of any sleek looking graphics, let us not fall into the trap that Microsoft did with Service Pack 2 for XP. When we do tempt people over to *nix, if their first introduction to it is a broken system they will not only never come back, they will tell everyone that *nix breaks computers. That is not acceptable, we are in the hands of the Grub people - so people should complain there and we should ensure that people asking why lubuntu does not work in such situations are clearly told that it is not a fault of lubuntu. Regards, Phill. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:12:35 +0100 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Goh, I'm not quite sure how to explain this to you? Rule #1 You install *buntu it works, if it does not work it does not break anything. At present it can totally break things. There is no point arguing over it, just go see the forum area for people for whom it has broken there is no point saying that it is does not, as there are a lot of people saying that it does. The problems with grub2 and Win7 were bad enough under the 'older' grub2. You do not seem to have read through that thread fully some links to read, Phillip, have read your links above. To add, there are some problems not in your links related to Dell's recovery system, raid, lvm and others...but not to denigrate your specific issue which is the failure to install by install grub-pc and you have found success by sudo apt-get install grub-pc; yes, you're right, I cannot see the point arguing that it should just work with install grub-pc and not just sudo apt-get install grub-pc. You do not seem to have read how to use 'sudo' and 'apt-get' rather than understanding how to install grub. Are there any more specific issues with grub you like to bring up rather than saying I haven't read fully? Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list:
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] LXAdmin, a collection of little applications to manage settings on LXDE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 great job, the sidux versions are useful but IMHO the bad part is that they need .moo txt files for translations instead of gettext poes... using gettext is a big improvmen. i know you use ubuntu so launchpad looks your first choice, but if we move that things on sourceforge i see real reasons to keep the work spread on sourceforge,gitub,launchpad.. just use 1 thing. in other words, i agree on moving that to our sourceforge git repos, but i don't agree to have the same stuff mirrored on github and launchpad. just my 2 cents Andrea Il 27/06/2010 11:23, Julien Lavergne ha scritto: Hi, Based on the Sidux applications, and 1 other from Lubuntu community, LXAdmin is a collection of little python applications to manage some settings and some tasks on LXDE. Basically, I gathered them in 1 place, added autotools support and gettext support, and some basic support for different distributions. There is still no big modification between them and original applications. You can find it in the git tree : http://github.com/gilir/LXAdmin It's mirrored on Launchpad : https://launchpad.net/lxadmin Packages for Ubuntu available in the PPA : https://launchpad.net/~lxadmin-team/+archive/testing It's still quite focus on Debian/Ubuntu, but I'm sure it can be extended to other distributions. It also needs improvements, like when it needs root rights. But, it's already useful in some cases. It's developed with git, so it's possible to host it on lxde git if you want :) I would like also to begin an experiment with it : activate Launchpad translation support, and see if it's bring more contributors. I would like to see if it's interesting of not to use Launchpad for this. Regards, Julien Lavergne -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Sprint What will you do first with EVO, the first 4G phone? Visit sprint.com/first -- http://p.sf.net/sfu/sprint-com-first ___ Lxde-list mailing list lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list - -- - -- Andrea Florio QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin CISCO CCNA Certified openSUSE-Education Administrator openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) Email: and...@opensuse.org Packman Packaging Team Email: and...@links2linux.de Web: http://packman.links2linux.org/ Cell: +39-328-7365667 - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwnc54ACgkQyCZT87TFPugT4wCg5Za+bP+b8PLx3iJqHyw4CV6/ 9kwAoIWBXOvED+toL/RWhRPINSMWXB8n =a1eY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
On 06/27/2010 09:30 PM, Andrew Woodhead wrote: I'd just like to add one thing that EVERYBODY is forgettin GRUB IS NOT THE *ONLY* BOOTLOADER Try LILO, It is a perfectly fine bootloader, or am I just thinking outside the box here and being too radical. Just because Grub is default in Ubuntu doesn't mean it is the best solution. You could also try BURG -Andy Good luck? Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXAdmin, a collection of little applications to manage settings on LXDE
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 11:23:44 +0200 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, Based on the Sidux applications, and 1 other from Lubuntu community, LXAdmin is a collection of little python applications to manage some settings and some tasks on LXDE. Basically, I gathered them in 1 place, added autotools support and gettext support, and some basic support for different distributions. There is still no big modification between them and original applications. You can find it in the git tree : http://github.com/gilir/LXAdmin It's mirrored on Launchpad : https://launchpad.net/lxadmin Packages for Ubuntu available in the PPA : https://launchpad.net/~lxadmin-team/+archive/testing It's still quite focus on Debian/Ubuntu, but I'm sure it can be extended to other distributions. It also needs improvements, like when it needs root rights. But, it's already useful in some cases. It's developed with git, so it's possible to host it on lxde git if you want :) I would like also to begin an experiment with it : activate Launchpad translation support, and see if it's bring more contributors. I would like to see if it's interesting of not to use Launchpad for this. Regards, Julien Lavergne Am I missing something here or should there be a new entry, or two, in the menu? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] LXAdmin, a collection of little applications to manage settings on LXDE
Le dimanche 27 juin 2010 à 17:51 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit : i know you use ubuntu so launchpad looks your first choice, but if we move that things on sourceforge i see real reasons to keep the work spread on sourceforge,gitub,launchpad.. just use 1 thing. in other words, i agree on moving that to our sourceforge git repos, but i don't agree to have the same stuff mirrored on github and launchpad. I used github because I don't have commit access to the sourceforge git :) No reason to keep it if it's hosted on sourceforge. For Launchpad, it's mirrored and converted to bzr, to be able to use features on Launchpad (it's doesn't support git), like the deb building. The purpose is not to push code there. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] artwork updated
On Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:40:01 +0200 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le samedi 26 juin 2010 à 21:31 +0200, 神癒礁湖 · Rafael Laguna a écrit : Hi again, boys and girls: I've updated (again and again, don't care, it's my job) the artwork for testing purposes only: * The GTK theme now is based on last Clearlooks engine, that does't use GDK, it's Cairo based, even more spedd than using Murrina engine. It was a request from a few users, they told me not to use too many engines (Aurora, Murrine, etc) to keep Lubuntu simple and fast. * The wallpaper is now just a variation from the 10.04 one, according (fully agree) with the classic Lubuntu style. * The Openbox theme has been polished a bit (and GTK theme matches aswell). * ...more and amazing changes to come! :) Please, feel free to test and comment / criticize your suggestions. Thank you all. With the link : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Maverick/LxDesign Thanks Rafael :) Where do I download the GTK theme, I can’t see it anywhere. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] artwork updated
Sorry, my fault. Link added. Or here. attachment: a3.pngattachment: a2.pngattachment: a1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Chromium Flash
Hi gang, I know the chromium team are working on in-built flash support, until that happens and lubuntu ships it, can I pop on the instructions from http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-flash-support-for-google-chromium-browser.html over onto the wiki help area, i'm guessing 'Advanced Users' would be the place for it. First you need to make sure you have installed chromium browser Now you need to install flash using the following command sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree Now you need to copy libflashplayer.so file into /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins directory sudo cp /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins Now you can run the chromium browser using the following command from terminal chromium-browser --enable-plugins to test it, to keep that setting, Go to the menu, select Internet -- and right click on Chromium Browser, select Properties and change where it says 'command' from chromium-browser %U to chromium-browser -- enable-plugins %U Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player
Hi, I'm not quite sure how I got involved in this thread but http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1503749 does tell me something more that deadbeef can do, heck I'm really impressed :-) I do recall one of the provisos for using a programme is that it be in the ubuntu repo's - How does one go about getting a programme into the repo? I know I will need to contact the author, but I would need to let him know what ubuntu requires and ask if he / she wants to proceed. Regards, Phill. On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.comwrote: Xnoise just got a ppa: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/xnoise-media-player-gets-ppa-new.html -Glenn -- Rulive: De nieuwste tips en tricks voor de echte messenger fan.http://www.rulive.nl/aspx/home.aspx ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Chromium Flash
On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:04:08 +0100 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi gang, I know the chromium team are working on in-built flash support, until that happens and lubuntu ships it, can I pop on the instructions from http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-flash-support-for-google-chromium-browser.html over onto the wiki help area, i'm guessing 'Advanced Users' would be the place for it. First you need to make sure you have installed chromium browser Now you need to install flash using the following command sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree Now you need to copy libflashplayer.so file into /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins directory sudo cp /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins I don't think it's necessary to copy the .so file around. Chromium automatically searches in the mozilla plugins' directories as well. [...] -- Kind regards, Chow Loong Jin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)
Hi for all ! Excuse me, I was not able a time to answer before: yesterday and today I did not use email... : ( I have reading the entire thread, see the disparity of views, even far from a complete understanding of the situation that I described in the topic (my letter, who that triggered this discussion). I must confess that I wrote this topic in the middle of night -- after a couple of hours of fucking with my PC; and it's main point, eliminating the effects of my Install the Lubuntu 10.04 Release. Hence, because of fatigue and irritation, my definition or formulating not clearly (addition issue, my English is not my native language). But it's possible harshness remarks about just stupidity of my situation. (Nothing Personally (c)...) But I'm sure if every one of you in the middle of the night came in the same situation, I am ready to give teeth :) that you would use no less harsh vocabulary... ;) Now, I shall little more speak on the merits. As first, the main problem is not that, I quote: If he wants to permanently attach this external to his system and let the system select the option to boot, he can boot up the computer OS, assuming it is a Linus distro, and do a sudo grub-install /dev/sda on it. Then it will detect the Lubuntu OS on the external and make it one of the option to boot The main problem, as basic, in the fact that OS Installer decided for me automatically record MBR to a defaults choosed device! Write it as default, it was choosed sda device. Thus is cause to violating for normally booting of my Boot Manager, which I has remained on the primary (such is sda) device, uses for booting many OSs on my PC. When the fact, at the time, my choosing disk to Install Lubuntu, -- and I just chose as a target to install my new OS just sdb device, -- this is not a cause (say it mildly) to recording MBR to primary device; and this Installer' behavior is strongly surprised for me (IMHO, and for other users too). Especially in combination with the completely correct placement of the Grub -- into sdb device and on the sdb1 partition. (Now, this is just automatic choising -- it's automatically on Lubuntu 10.04, opposed to it from Lucid Ubuntu 10.04, which if remember I asked to choose accommodation boot -- but this choosing for Grub' placement is quite reasonable and it's predictable for any users.) Therefore, a statement in this discussion: I do not think it is a bug and I think it is a more fundamental issue of where he puts his grub... - It is correct not reflection of the understanding 'global' situation about OS' booting, of this community. For me, the user never been given a choice: haven't choice of where to write Grub; nor, especially, the possibility of manual selection strategy, critical to the successful resolution of a potentially dangerous and destructive operation - the location (device) to record MBR... So, second and most important, IMHO. If the OS' Installer asks user to manually select a location for recording MBR or even refuse to record it, then this case did not there would be described by this strange situation (now I'm trying to soften my expression). In practice, this might look like this: (*) Use /dev/sda (default) ( ) Use /dev/sdb ... / / Depend of lenght the list for presents devices... ( ) Not recording the MBR. For my specific needs, I would choose the last point. And I remember that several months ago under Xbuntu 10.04 Installer was be present my this 'true way', and because it I can allowed it not overwrite my MBR, when I has Installation on my main device. When I use this OSs on quite complex combination of hard drives on my PC... Third and last. In the last one year or two, we have rather tendency to uses automation of various operations, including installing and configuring the OS. This would be very good way, but if it permit known causes: (a) always for any users would be choose to left it and uses manually intervene this process (have an obvious way to do it); (b) when chooses automatic settings of the algorithm does not rely just to the typical situation, and only typical as standard environment of PCs, but would have investigated the operating PC' environment to automatically adjust it, and while the algorithm would continue to exercise it only when collected environmental data on the PC will only unequivocally accept just correct solutions. For any other cases, the user should be offered opportunity to make own choices just manually. But the automatically collected information would provide extremely to useful for this user's choices! (By the way, does not wanting to my brag, I'm wrote it unequivocally: I had programmer and I active PC user with experience almost 20 years. And I've seen a lot of rich practice. And in my professional work stick to just those rules that are outlined above. However, I have been never still just Linux programming experience, haven't common software developing for Linux, and simply therefore do not have capabilities -- for my time and
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] LXAdmin, a collection of little applications to manage settings on LXDE
When you get them working well, please get us informed. It's my pleasure to create a git repo for you on http://sf.net/projects/lxde. It's easy to pull your work form github then. Great job! Thank you all. On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le dimanche 27 juin 2010 à 17:51 +0200, Andrea Florio a écrit : i know you use ubuntu so launchpad looks your first choice, but if we move that things on sourceforge i see real reasons to keep the work spread on sourceforge,gitub,launchpad.. just use 1 thing. in other words, i agree on moving that to our sourceforge git repos, but i don't agree to have the same stuff mirrored on github and launchpad. I used github because I don't have commit access to the sourceforge git :) No reason to keep it if it's hosted on sourceforge. For Launchpad, it's mirrored and converted to bzr, to be able to use features on Launchpad (it's doesn't support git), like the deb building. The purpose is not to push code there. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Can we have a screen to select several optioinal apps during installation?
As the title, I'm always thinking about this. Can we have a screen to select several optioinal apps during installation? For example, before the installation begins, let the user choose the file manager and office suite they want. So people can choose from firefox, midori, or chromium. Also they can choose from OpenOffice.org and Abiword/GNumeric. In this way, we can make the users happier, I think. Of course ease of installation is important, but even Windows intaller provided some degree of customization. Can we do that? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Chromium Flash
Hi, Okay, I can leave that bit out, it is just I know that set of instructions work so am not to blame if it does not work for the next peron ;-) Regards, Phill. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com wrote: On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:04:08 +0100 Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi gang, I know the chromium team are working on in-built flash support, until that happens and lubuntu ships it, can I pop on the instructions from http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-enable-flash-support-for-google-chromium-browser.html over onto the wiki help area, i'm guessing 'Advanced Users' would be the place for it. First you need to make sure you have installed chromium browser Now you need to install flash using the following command sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree Now you need to copy libflashplayer.so file into /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins directory sudo cp /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins I don't think it's necessary to copy the .so file around. Chromium automatically searches in the mozilla plugins' directories as well. [...] -- Kind regards, Chow Loong Jin ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
