Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Opera browser on lubuntu

2010-07-04 Thread Andrew Woodhead
To install a deb file you can use:

sudo dpkg -i file.deb

And it will install, you can make apt attempt to satisfy dependancys (if
they are needed) with:

sudo apt-get -f install

Should be fine
-Andy


On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Daniel Hallett dhallett2...@gmail.comwrote:

 How am I able to install the .deb file on lubuntu? And how am I able to
 auto install updates for lubuntu?
 I am using lubuntu 10.04.
 Sent from my iPod
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Using Mallard for Ubuntu docs

2010-07-04 Thread Phil Bull
Hi Phill,

On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 23:36 +0100, Phillip Whiteside wrote:
 as one who does not use gnome, my little two cents worth is that
 instructions should not be tied 100% to gnome. Whilst the vast
 majority use 'vanilla' ubuntu, there are other flavours. As ubuntu is
 ubuntu, should we be as aware of that as we are translations? 
 Xubuntu, Kubuntu etc. Each of the flavours has translation teams and
 I'm sure some translators work on more than one flavour, the 'base'
 installation documents need to cover all that is common (grub, kernel
 etc) after that how does for example, the chromium browser team from
 ubuntu work with those from kde work with xfce, work with lxde etc ?
 I've seen some excellent wiki pages that put in the difference between
 gksudo and kdesu. One easy example for lubuntu (allbeit not a fully
 fledged ubuntu yet) is that it would be leafpad and not gedit that is
 the shipped programme for people to do that lower level of editing
 with.

The use of Mallard with other (non-GNOME) flavours of Ubuntu is a little
more complicated. I think Xfce may be willing to adopt Mallard, but I'm
not sure what the situation is with KDE. The others I have even less
idea about.

Where instructions can be written generically they should be, but there
are going to be lots of instances where GNOME-specific instructions have
to be used. Trying to write too generically will confuse users, and
providing multiple instructions in one topic would also be confusing
because then users have to figure out which DE they're using every time.

In order to promote re-use between different flavours, perhaps we can
come up with some system of flagging-up completely reusable topics, and
topics which can be reused with some editing? That way, the job of
editing Ubuntu/GNOME docs to work with Kubuntu/KDE or whatever could be
made easier. There was also talk of a conditional element feature in
Mallard that would insert the right material depending on the DE that
was running, but that could get complicated and ugly. It's something we
should play around with, anyway.

Thanks,

Phil

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Andrew Woodhead
Did you MD5 test the ISO?
If you installed using a CD, did you check the CD for defects?

-Andy

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote:

 I just did the alpha-2 install on my Mini-9 Netbook, and there were
 various little issues that arose.  I'm not sure what level of detail
 you want at this point, or if you want a distinct thread started for
 each issue, so I'll just quickly list some here and perhaps you could
 indicate which, if any, are of interest to pursue further?

 1 - Install went fine until it reached the 95% point of Installing
 System, running dpkg, at which point it simply stopped for about a
 half hour and then completed the install successfully.  I was almost
 ready to abort, and I suspect many people would have.

 2 - My screen was so dim that it literally wasn't usable until I
 Googled for this issue and added appropriate commands to the grub
 startup command (both during the install and for subsequent boots).

 3 - On first run of Synaptic, it reports Auto Removable items.  It
 also generates errors, when I Reload, about signatures which
 couldn't be verified.

 4 - The browser has some minor problems, but I see that there are
 already bugs filed on chromium-browser which cover those.

 I haven't had a chance to test it much.  Is there a particular test
 regimen you'd like run, or aren't we at that point quite yet?

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi Bob,

the 95% stall on install is a known 'bug'. I do not know how much RAM you
have on the Dell, but a couple of pointers that may help from this
problem...

Then a perused through the bios setting and found the setting APIC Mode
was set to Disabled. I changed it to Enabled and that seemed to do the trick

and the thread http://newyork.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1473819

I've seen it noted that it can take several hours on low RAM machines to do
the final part of the cleanup.

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote:

 I just did the alpha-2 install on my Mini-9 Netbook, and there were
 various little issues that arose.  I'm not sure what level of detail
 you want at this point, or if you want a distinct thread started for
 each issue, so I'll just quickly list some here and perhaps you could
 indicate which, if any, are of interest to pursue further?

 1 - Install went fine until it reached the 95% point of Installing
 System, running dpkg, at which point it simply stopped for about a
 half hour and then completed the install successfully.  I was almost
 ready to abort, and I suspect many people would have.

 2 - My screen was so dim that it literally wasn't usable until I
 Googled for this issue and added appropriate commands to the grub
 startup command (both during the install and for subsequent boots).

 3 - On first run of Synaptic, it reports Auto Removable items.  It
 also generates errors, when I Reload, about signatures which
 couldn't be verified.

 4 - The browser has some minor problems, but I see that there are
 already bugs filed on chromium-browser which cover those.

 I haven't had a chance to test it much.  Is there a particular test
 regimen you'd like run, or aren't we at that point quite yet?

 Regards,
 Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 2

2010-07-04 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi Julien,

are you happy for the alpha2 to be added to the testing lubuntu
section at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Test
Lubuntu

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Test LubuntuRegards,

Phill.

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I just generated the second alpha of Lubuntu Maverick. Like other Alpha
 2, you should be aware of those warnings :

 Pre-releases of Maverick are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a
 stable
 system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
 frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
 and
 those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

 We are still very early in the development, so don't expect many
 improvements and too much stability.

 How to report bugs :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs

 Torrent:
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha2.iso.torrent
 Download:
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha2.iso
 Md5sum:
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Trevithick
@Phill: Thanks.. the 95% bug I should have looked up!  If I can ever
burn a CD (see below) I'll try the install with ethernet unplugged. :)

@Andy: Okay, this is weird.  I did check the md5sum of the ISO I
downloaded, but I did *not* check the CD I burned.. and I should have.

I've now made three coasters, four counting the original one, and no
matter what system I use to burn the CD, the file boot.cat comes out
with the wrong md5.  It's the only error on the CD.  Neither Brasero
nor Xfburn can put this image on a CD without screwing up that one
file.  And neither one warns me of the error.  I wonder why it's
always the same file?

Anyway, my apologies.. I should have checked the CD as well as the
ISO, obviously!  There's something I won't forget to do ever again. :)
 Now if I can just get it to burn accurately, just once, I can start
over and hopefully things will work better.

Regards,
Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Re: md5checksum on CD

There is a bug on testing the CD, again it has been noted and when Julien
and Ian get some time it can be looked into. - If the person who gave me the
quicker instructions rather than the one I have I will pop it onto the
wiki.
*
*

   *Next, you can burn the cd (**
   
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto*https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
   *). Once it is done, check the CD by issuing:
   *
   * * #* * #*Code:**dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum*
   *
   It should also report back **386a227968cbabc89e1a23b95035160e**. If not,
   the CD did not burn correctly.*


Regards,

Phill.

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote:

 @Phill: Thanks.. the 95% bug I should have looked up!  If I can ever
 burn a CD (see below) I'll try the install with ethernet unplugged. :)

 @Andy: Okay, this is weird.  I did check the md5sum of the ISO I
 downloaded, but I did *not* check the CD I burned.. and I should have.

 I've now made three coasters, four counting the original one, and no
 matter what system I use to burn the CD, the file boot.cat comes out
 with the wrong md5.  It's the only error on the CD.  Neither Brasero
 nor Xfburn can put this image on a CD without screwing up that one
 file.  And neither one warns me of the error.  I wonder why it's
 always the same file?

 Anyway, my apologies.. I should have checked the CD as well as the
 ISO, obviously!  There's something I won't forget to do ever again. :)
  Now if I can just get it to burn accurately, just once, I can start
 over and hopefully things will work better.

 Regards,
 Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Trevithick
Ah, well, hmm.  I don't get the correct md5sum according to this
method either, Phill.

b...@ub32:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
0e9fac900c8288b243e875d9b1b65479  -
266741+0 records in
266741+0 records out
546285568 bytes (546 MB) copied, 112.087 s, 4.9 MB/s

So, I tried yet another approach and burned one with Nautilus as per
the instructions.  For the first time, I got an actual error during
the burn.  It didn't tell me what was wrong, but at least it alerted
me to the burning error.

Okay, I've tried to burn this on three different machines, using three
different burning applications, and two different types of blank CDs.
Maybe I'm not cut out for this kind of work. ;-)

I'll download the 32-bit alternate CD, do a command-line install, and
then apt-get the lubuntu-desktop package.  That should give me the
same thing I'm trying to do here, right?

Thanks!

Regards,
Bob

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Andrew Woodhead
Burn as SLOWLY as you are allowed. Even 1x if you can. It will give a better
image on the CD and will reduce errors by jitter and such. Using a USB
device alleviates the need for moving CDs and such (assuming you can boot
USB). If not definately burn slow, try another brand if you still get issues
and try not to use CDRWs.
-Andy


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote:

 @Phill: Thanks.. the 95% bug I should have looked up!  If I can ever
 burn a CD (see below) I'll try the install with ethernet unplugged. :)

 @Andy: Okay, this is weird.  I did check the md5sum of the ISO I
 downloaded, but I did *not* check the CD I burned.. and I should have.

 I've now made three coasters, four counting the original one, and no
 matter what system I use to burn the CD, the file boot.cat comes out
 with the wrong md5.  It's the only error on the CD.  Neither Brasero
 nor Xfburn can put this image on a CD without screwing up that one
 file.  And neither one warns me of the error.  I wonder why it's
 always the same file?

 Anyway, my apologies.. I should have checked the CD as well as the
 ISO, obviously!  There's something I won't forget to do ever again. :)
  Now if I can just get it to burn accurately, just once, I can start
 over and hopefully things will work better.

 Regards,
 Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Trevithick
Yep, I was using the slowest speeds available.  I've now installed
unetbootin and am creating a USB to boot this from.  With any luck...
:-)

I'll let you know how I make out.

Thanks for the assist!

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Andrew Woodhead
andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Burn as SLOWLY as you are allowed. Even 1x if you can. It will give a better
 image on the CD and will reduce errors by jitter and such. Using a USB
 device alleviates the need for moving CDs and such (assuming you can boot
 USB). If not definately burn slow, try another brand if you still get issues
 and try not to use CDRWs.
 -Andy

 On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 @Phill: Thanks.. the 95% bug I should have looked up!  If I can ever
 burn a CD (see below) I'll try the install with ethernet unplugged. :)

 @Andy: Okay, this is weird.  I did check the md5sum of the ISO I
 downloaded, but I did *not* check the CD I burned.. and I should have.

 I've now made three coasters, four counting the original one, and no
 matter what system I use to burn the CD, the file boot.cat comes out
 with the wrong md5.  It's the only error on the CD.  Neither Brasero
 nor Xfburn can put this image on a CD without screwing up that one
 file.  And neither one warns me of the error.  I wonder why it's
 always the same file?

 Anyway, my apologies.. I should have checked the CD as well as the
 ISO, obviously!  There's something I won't forget to do ever again. :)
  Now if I can just get it to burn accurately, just once, I can start
 over and hopefully things will work better.

 Regards,
 Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Those instructions are solely for the 10.04 disk, if you are using a
different installation method then the check sum will be different.

If you pop over to the thread
http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=94 that gives the 10.04
release, I would need to update it for the release levels for the alphas, or
I could give you the instructions as to how to write them :p

Possibly the md5 | cdrom command may be easier for people, as it only
requires the md5 sum to check against.

Regards,

Phill.

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ah, well, hmm.  I don't get the correct md5sum according to this
 method either, Phill.

 b...@ub32:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
 0e9fac900c8288b243e875d9b1b65479  -
 266741+0 records in
 266741+0 records out
 546285568 bytes (546 MB) copied, 112.087 s, 4.9 MB/s

 So, I tried yet another approach and burned one with Nautilus as per
 the instructions.  For the first time, I got an actual error during
 the burn.  It didn't tell me what was wrong, but at least it alerted
 me to the burning error.

 Okay, I've tried to burn this on three different machines, using three
 different burning applications, and two different types of blank CDs.
 Maybe I'm not cut out for this kind of work. ;-)

 I'll download the 32-bit alternate CD, do a command-line install, and
 then apt-get the lubuntu-desktop package.  That should give me the
 same thing I'm trying to do here, right?

 Thanks!

 Regards,
 Bob

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
 wrote:
  dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Trevithick
Sure, I can write up a version for Maverick, as soon as I understand
what's actually happening with the whole process.  I mean, I took
Andy's advice and made a bootable USB stick instead (much faster than
the CD.. glad I learned about that) but I still don't know why the CD
burn process is causing errors, etc.

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 Those instructions are solely for the 10.04 disk, if you are using a
 different installation method then the check sum will be different.
 If you pop over to the
 thread http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=94 that gives the 10.04
 release, I would need to update it for the release levels for the alphas, or
 I could give you the instructions as to how to write them :p
 Possibly the md5 | cdrom command may be easier for people, as it only
 requires the md5 sum to check against.
 Regards,
 Phill.

 On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Ah, well, hmm.  I don't get the correct md5sum according to this
 method either, Phill.

 b...@ub32:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
 0e9fac900c8288b243e875d9b1b65479  -
 266741+0 records in
 266741+0 records out
 546285568 bytes (546 MB) copied, 112.087 s, 4.9 MB/s

 So, I tried yet another approach and burned one with Nautilus as per
 the instructions.  For the first time, I got an actual error during
 the burn.  It didn't tell me what was wrong, but at least it alerted
 me to the burning error.

 Okay, I've tried to burn this on three different machines, using three
 different burning applications, and two different types of blank CDs.
 Maybe I'm not cut out for this kind of work. ;-)

 I'll download the 32-bit alternate CD, do a command-line install, and
 then apt-get the lubuntu-desktop package.  That should give me the
 same thing I'm trying to do here, right?

 Thanks!

 Regards,
 Bob

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
 wrote:
  dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi Bob,

If the CD is not burned at 4X speed, it can cause horrors. In 9.10 I could
burn at that rate, in 10.04 I cannot. As a part of these 'funnies' that
happen, one of the tech guys told me that he could not burn at 4X in 9.10
but can do in 10.04 .

I have learned to 'cheat' and use CD-RW's or DVD-RW's which keeps the burn
speed down.

Oh, and I've used brassero etc., it seems to be a kernel issue but one that
is really hard to nail down.

Regards,

Phill.
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sure, I can write up a version for Maverick, as soon as I understand
 what's actually happening with the whole process.  I mean, I took
 Andy's advice and made a bootable USB stick instead (much faster than
 the CD.. glad I learned about that) but I still don't know why the CD
 burn process is causing errors, etc.

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
 wrote:
  Those instructions are solely for the 10.04 disk, if you are using a
  different installation method then the check sum will be different.
  If you pop over to the
  thread http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=94 that gives the
 10.04
  release, I would need to update it for the release levels for the alphas,
 or
  I could give you the instructions as to how to write them :p
  Possibly the md5 | cdrom command may be easier for people, as it only
  requires the md5 sum to check against.
  Regards,
  Phill.
 
  On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Bob Trevithick 
 bob.trevith...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Ah, well, hmm.  I don't get the correct md5sum according to this
  method either, Phill.
 
  b...@ub32:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
  0e9fac900c8288b243e875d9b1b65479  -
  266741+0 records in
  266741+0 records out
  546285568 bytes (546 MB) copied, 112.087 s, 4.9 MB/s
 
  So, I tried yet another approach and burned one with Nautilus as per
  the instructions.  For the first time, I got an actual error during
  the burn.  It didn't tell me what was wrong, but at least it alerted
  me to the burning error.
 
  Okay, I've tried to burn this on three different machines, using three
  different burning applications, and two different types of blank CDs.
  Maybe I'm not cut out for this kind of work. ;-)
 
  I'll download the 32-bit alternate CD, do a command-line install, and
  then apt-get the lubuntu-desktop package.  That should give me the
  same thing I'm trying to do here, right?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Regards,
  Bob
 
  On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
  wrote:
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Bob Trevithick
Okay, I'll try to wrap my head around the whole problem and see if I
can write it up coherently.. after a bit of sleep. :)

In the meantime, with the USB install, I have the same issues I noted
in my opening post.. and looking at the USB stick I notice that the
boot.cat file still has the wrong md5sum (if that's relevant.)  So, my
initial post still stands if any of those things are of interest at
the moment.

Tomorrow I'll see precisely what it takes to overcome the dim display
problem.  And I have to sort out wireless and a few other things.  Let
me know, please, what would be most useful to you folks at this stage.

Night,
Bob

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote:
 Hi Bob,
 If the CD is not burned at 4X speed, it can cause horrors. In 9.10 I could
 burn at that rate, in 10.04 I cannot. As a part of these 'funnies' that
 happen, one of the tech guys told me that he could not burn at 4X in 9.10
 but can do in 10.04 .
 I have learned to 'cheat' and use CD-RW's or DVD-RW's which keeps the burn
 speed down.

 Oh, and I've used brassero etc., it seems to be a kernel issue but one that
 is really hard to nail down.
 Regards,
 Phill.
 On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sure, I can write up a version for Maverick, as soon as I understand
 what's actually happening with the whole process.  I mean, I took
 Andy's advice and made a bootable USB stick instead (much faster than
 the CD.. glad I learned about that) but I still don't know why the CD
 burn process is causing errors, etc.

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
 wrote:
  Those instructions are solely for the 10.04 disk, if you are using a
  different installation method then the check sum will be different.
  If you pop over to the
  thread http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=94 that gives the
  10.04
  release, I would need to update it for the release levels for the
  alphas, or
  I could give you the instructions as to how to write them :p
  Possibly the md5 | cdrom command may be easier for people, as it only
  requires the md5 sum to check against.
  Regards,
  Phill.
 
  On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Bob Trevithick
  bob.trevith...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Ah, well, hmm.  I don't get the correct md5sum according to this
  method either, Phill.
 
  b...@ub32:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
  0e9fac900c8288b243e875d9b1b65479  -
  266741+0 records in
  266741+0 records out
  546285568 bytes (546 MB) copied, 112.087 s, 4.9 MB/s
 
  So, I tried yet another approach and burned one with Nautilus as per
  the instructions.  For the first time, I got an actual error during
  the burn.  It didn't tell me what was wrong, but at least it alerted
  me to the burning error.
 
  Okay, I've tried to burn this on three different machines, using three
  different burning applications, and two different types of blank CDs.
  Maybe I'm not cut out for this kind of work. ;-)
 
  I'll download the 32-bit alternate CD, do a command-line install, and
  then apt-get the lubuntu-desktop package.  That should give me the
  same thing I'm trying to do here, right?
 
  Thanks!
 
  Regards,
  Bob
 
  On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
  wrote:
   dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Dell Mini-9 issues

2010-07-04 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi Bob,

does the iso that you are using pass the md5?

If you're using the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Download Lubuntu then I
can ask as to how the iso burns to a usb with checking the md5.

Regards,

Phill.

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote:

 Okay, I'll try to wrap my head around the whole problem and see if I
 can write it up coherently.. after a bit of sleep. :)

 In the meantime, with the USB install, I have the same issues I noted
 in my opening post.. and looking at the USB stick I notice that the
 boot.cat file still has the wrong md5sum (if that's relevant.)  So, my
 initial post still stands if any of those things are of interest at
 the moment.

 Tomorrow I'll see precisely what it takes to overcome the dim display
 problem.  And I have to sort out wireless and a few other things.  Let
 me know, please, what would be most useful to you folks at this stage.

 Night,
 Bob

 On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
 wrote:
  Hi Bob,
  If the CD is not burned at 4X speed, it can cause horrors. In 9.10 I
 could
  burn at that rate, in 10.04 I cannot. As a part of these 'funnies' that
  happen, one of the tech guys told me that he could not burn at 4X in 9.10
  but can do in 10.04 .
  I have learned to 'cheat' and use CD-RW's or DVD-RW's which keeps the
 burn
  speed down.
 
  Oh, and I've used brassero etc., it seems to be a kernel issue but one
 that
  is really hard to nail down.
  Regards,
  Phill.
  On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com
 
  wrote:
 
  Sure, I can write up a version for Maverick, as soon as I understand
  what's actually happening with the whole process.  I mean, I took
  Andy's advice and made a bootable USB stick instead (much faster than
  the CD.. glad I learned about that) but I still don't know why the CD
  burn process is causing errors, etc.
 
  On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
  wrote:
   Those instructions are solely for the 10.04 disk, if you are using a
   different installation method then the check sum will be different.
   If you pop over to the
   thread http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=94 that gives the
   10.04
   release, I would need to update it for the release levels for the
   alphas, or
   I could give you the instructions as to how to write them :p
   Possibly the md5 | cdrom command may be easier for people, as it only
   requires the md5 sum to check against.
   Regards,
   Phill.
  
   On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Bob Trevithick
   bob.trevith...@gmail.com
   wrote:
  
   Ah, well, hmm.  I don't get the correct md5sum according to this
   method either, Phill.
  
   b...@ub32:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
   0e9fac900c8288b243e875d9b1b65479  -
   266741+0 records in
   266741+0 records out
   546285568 bytes (546 MB) copied, 112.087 s, 4.9 MB/s
  
   So, I tried yet another approach and burned one with Nautilus as per
   the instructions.  For the first time, I got an actual error during
   the burn.  It didn't tell me what was wrong, but at least it alerted
   me to the burning error.
  
   Okay, I've tried to burn this on three different machines, using
 three
   different burning applications, and two different types of blank CDs.
   Maybe I'm not cut out for this kind of work. ;-)
  
   I'll download the 32-bit alternate CD, do a command-line install, and
   then apt-get the lubuntu-desktop package.  That should give me the
   same thing I'm trying to do here, right?
  
   Thanks!
  
   Regards,
   Bob
  
   On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net
 
   wrote:
dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=266741 | md5sum
  
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