Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Alpha 3 released
I did a quick review and found a problem in lxappearance. The Xft antialias stuff is not as easy as it looks like. See this page: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ScreenFontSettings There is no common standard for this and things are totally in a mess. The most cross-toolkit and cross-desktop way seems to be using Xrm. Since gtk+ uses cairo, it might support Xrm, too. But using gtkrc and XSettings can get the config dynamically applied in gtk+ applications. I'm not sure if Xrm works for Qt4. IIRC Qt4 doesn't use Xft. Anyway, if possible I don't want to do it in a gtk+ specific way. Any thoughts or comments? On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le vendredi 11 mars 2011 à 19:11 +0800, PCMan a écrit : From the list, I'm sure that you have done a great job to patch the components and added exciting features here and there. However, the upstream authors do not have time to merge these changes at the moment due to lack of man power. Some nice changes should definitely go upstream. Can anyone help? I plan to merge the changes into lxde git branches. I already added some gilir-fixes branches for several lxde components with some of the modifications. If you are agree, I can commit then directly to git master branch, so it will be easier to review it by others. I'll be very happy if I can drop all the patches and ship instead git snapshot of lxde git :) Let me know if you are agree, I can merge the changes during next week. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] It sort of looks like Unity
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 06:09:54 + Glenn de Groot glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com wrote: Pretty cool. :)Could you try removing the launchers in the top pannel and make the unity dock slightly larger? :PNow we need to make it default on 11.10 :DJust kidding. -Glenn Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:48:14 + From: yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] It sort of looks like Unity Some more messing about with themes and things http://imagebin.org/142453 inspired by Unity. I've been showing Lubuntu to a few people, generally older people with hand-me-down computers who are quite happy with it. One of the comments from the younger people though, is that it looks a bit old fashioned or plain/boring. So I just wanted to demonstrate how customisable it is. I will, when time allows, document this. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] It sort of looks like Unity
Le samedi 12 mars 2011 à 09:56 +, Yorvyk a écrit : I've been showing Lubuntu to a few people, generally older people with hand-me-down computers who are quite happy with it. One of the comments from the younger people though, is that it looks a bit old fashioned or plain/boring. So I just wanted to demonstrate how customisable it is. I will, when time allows, document this. I done a similar customization, but with lxlauncher + Awn :) I was quite happy to use this UI on my netbook. I think it's something we could implement in the Lubuntu Netbook session, just to show we can do a similar UI with our softwares :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Alpha 3 released
Le samedi 12 mars 2011 à 16:35 +0800, PCMan a écrit : I did a quick review and found a problem in lxappearance. The Xft antialias stuff is not as easy as it looks like. See this page: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ScreenFontSettings There is no common standard for this and things are totally in a mess. The most cross-toolkit and cross-desktop way seems to be using Xrm. Since gtk+ uses cairo, it might support Xrm, too. But using gtkrc and XSettings can get the config dynamically applied in gtk+ applications. I'm not sure if Xrm works for Qt4. IIRC Qt4 doesn't use Xft. Anyway, if possible I don't want to do it in a gtk+ specific way. Any thoughts or comments? Is XSettings not supposed to be a standard way to interact with this settings ? I think it will be easier (at least, for the short term) to stay with XSettings, as many parts of lxappearance use this. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Natty Alpha 3 released
Though posted on freedesktop.org, XSettings is actually a Gnome/GTK+ standard without concensus. Qt, KDE, and all the others to my best knowledge don't support this. This is yet another example of Gnome pushes others to use its standard and call their technology cross-desktop solution. LXDE, which is based on gtk+, of course uses XSettings, but this only works for gtk+ apps. At least I solved the XCursor problem in a more desktop independent way so I hope that we can solve the font one in the similar manner. Actually, when I'm planning LXAppearance, I wanted to write some config values to qtconfig to make it more cross-desktop but later I found this very difficult. Any better idea? On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le samedi 12 mars 2011 à 16:35 +0800, PCMan a écrit : I did a quick review and found a problem in lxappearance. The Xft antialias stuff is not as easy as it looks like. See this page: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ScreenFontSettings There is no common standard for this and things are totally in a mess. The most cross-toolkit and cross-desktop way seems to be using Xrm. Since gtk+ uses cairo, it might support Xrm, too. But using gtkrc and XSettings can get the config dynamically applied in gtk+ applications. I'm not sure if Xrm works for Qt4. IIRC Qt4 doesn't use Xft. Anyway, if possible I don't want to do it in a gtk+ specific way. Any thoughts or comments? Is XSettings not supposed to be a standard way to interact with this settings ? I think it will be easier (at least, for the short term) to stay with XSettings, as many parts of lxappearance use this. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] QA Test Case LXRandR - RFC
I've added a test case for LXRandR to the QA section here http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/LXRandr if anybody would like to try it and/or comment. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] QA Test Case LXTasks - RFC
I've added a test case for LXTasks to the QA section here http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/LXTasks if anybody would like to try it and/or comment. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] QA Test Case LXAppearance - RFC
I've added a test case for LXAppearance to the QA section here http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications/LXAppearance if anybody would like to try it and/or comment. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players - some thoughts RFC
And no, you're right, this is NOT a democracy. I mean, the audio player has its own discussion (where everybody in this list voted their suggestion). But there's one thing we cannot forget, the technical details about RAM consumption, the space needed in the ISO, the license of the included product in a third party release, the update schedule and availability of packages, etc. Believe when I tell that the coordinator of this project, Julien, is doing the best for keeping Lubuntu as efficient and attractive as possible. And I think we could demonstrate some empathy and trust for him. -- attachment: b3.pngattachment: b2.pngattachment: b1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Audio players - some thoughts RFC
Am Samstag 12 März 2011, um 18:31:14 schrieb 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna): And no, you're right, this is NOT a democracy. I mean, the audio player has its own discussion (where everybody in this list voted their suggestion). But there's one thing we cannot forget, the technical details about RAM consumption, the space needed in the ISO, the license of the included product in a third party release, the update schedule and availability of packages, etc. Believe when I tell that the coordinator of this project, Julien, is doing the best for keeping Lubuntu as efficient and attractive as possible. And I think we could demonstrate some empathy and trust for him. Not only for him, but also respect the decision already done by the community (the audio player was voted if I am not wrong) Also bear in mind, changing the audio player or default applications is nothing that should change every release. Especially as upgrades from older releases tend to keep their versions of audio player. AudioPlayers and Webbrowsers are the two most discussed topics here in the mailinglist when it comes to default applications, but that is normal for a distribution that young. The most important is that those discussions don't interfere the development of the overall distribution and that is something Julien just like we all here in the community have to look at and should take responsibility for. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
