Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LP Bug #687458 (was: pcmanfm bug )
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:26 -0400, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: I'm confirming this bug on Lubuntu 10.04 with pcmanfn 0.9.7 This is already a known issue, in Launchpad at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/687458 Any further information that would help get it fixed would be better added to that but report, rather than discussed here on the mailing list, I think. Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
On 06/18/2011 12:53 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On 06/13/2011 10:12 AM, PCMan wrote: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=156956atid=801864 I think we might also want to go through the bugs reported at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm since some of these look like pcmanfm crashes if you do *this* type of bugs, which IMO are important to fix, if they can be reproduced. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Missing configuration programs
Hi, I am missing several important programs for user settings (e. g. keyboard shortcuts, startup applications, keyboard layouts switching or sound channels volumes). In the ideal case these programs could be similar to that in Gnome 2, maybe we could just copy some. Is there any work in progress on this? Filip Dominec ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing configuration programs
2011/6/18 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de Am 18.06.2011 11:16, schrieb Filip Dominec: Hi, I am missing several important programs for user settings (e. g. keyboard shortcuts, startup applications, keyboard layouts switching or sound channels volumes). In the ideal case these programs could be similar to that in Gnome 2, maybe we could just copy some. Is there any work in progress on this? Filip Dominec For keyboard shortcuts I normally edit the openbox configuration file, but you are right a graphical tool would be helpful here. For startup applications you can go to the menu - preferences - desktop session settings. Keyboard layout switching can be done with lxkeymap. Sound volume can be changed with the tray icon in the panel. Those applications are already included. A soundmixer gui like alsamixergui or a gnome-alsamixer would be nice to integrate. (despite the name gnome-alsamixer has not lot of dependencies) When could something be done about multimedia keys?? -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing configuration programs
- Ursprüngliche Mitteilung - 2011/6/18 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de Am 18.06.2011 11:16, schrieb Filip Dominec: Hi, I am missing several important programs for user settings (e. g. keyboard shortcuts, startup applications, keyboard layouts switching or sound channels volumes). In the ideal case these programs could be similar to that in Gnome 2, maybe we could just copy some. Is there any work in progress on this? Filip Dominec For keyboard shortcuts I normally edit the openbox configuration file, but you are right a graphical tool would be helpful here. For startup applications you can go to the menu - preferences - desktop session settings. Keyboard layout switching can be done with lxkeymap. Sound volume can be changed with the tray icon in the panel. Those applications are already included. A soundmixer gui like alsamixergui or a gnome-alsamixer would be nice to integrate. (despite the name gnome-alsamixer has not lot of dependencies) When could something be done about multimedia keys?? -- jpxsat Multimediakey support is integrated already.___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
Le Friday 17 June 2011 à 00:31 +0200, Julien Lavergne a écrit : Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list. Ok, many people seem to prefer mails, so I'll follow each thread to finalize the decisions for each component. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] LightDM Vs LXDM
Having thought about this it is probably best to go with LightDM if the rest of Ubuntu is going that way. There should be plenty of support for it and we'll be less isolated. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat
No point in having two applications doing the same thing so drop XChat. I don't like Pidgin so will install XChat for IRC. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Leafpad Vs gEdit
While I love gEdit for Python or editing .po files, with it's highlighting, auto indenting etc. it does need quite a bit of CPU/RAM and is overkill for editing small config files, scripts, etc. Stick with Leafpad, simple clean, no mess. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:35:23 +0200 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Friday 17 June 2011 à 00:31 +0200, Julien Lavergne a écrit : Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list. Ok, many people seem to prefer mails, so I'll follow each thread to finalize the decisions for each component. I've started 3 threads for those that wish to comment. Remember Lubuntu is supposed to be small and simple and run on impoverished machinery. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
This is about my reasoning also for proposed changes. I also think that LXDM this cycle makes sense, my concern would be that the other proposal involves LightDM with LXDM as a fall back. I'm concerned this may be an undue strain on our limited devs. That 12.04 is an LTS, we can be pretty confident that extra resources are going to be available from the whole Ubuntu dev people. I've said it before and will repeat, the release prior to an LTS is a 'stable beta', regardless of how it is called. If the Devs are confident that they CAN get LightDM up and running 100% for 11-10, then by all means go for it. That call is really up to the devs. X-chat I've nothing against it (regardless what people may think!). If we need disk space on the CD for language packs etc. then dropping X-Chat and relying on pidgin will, at least, give people the ability to access IRC. X-Chat is far superior on IRC, but when we are squeezed for space and low bandwidths etc? Crikey, i recall us discussing the alternate installation and GUI installation both being able to fit on one iso. For the leafpad Vs Gedit Vs Libre.. Again, I would ask for the smallest one in terms of disk space and CPU / RAM requirement. Those with quad core machines and 4GB+ of RAM can add on what they wish. This has always been a point I make to people considering Lubuntu. It is a 'lean, mean, keen and green' version - But it is no way a 'cut-down and crippled' version of the ubuntu family. Put onto it your favourite programmes (Full LAMP server and Bluefish etc. are some the additions I made). Regards, Phill. On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote: On 06/16/2011 03:31 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: 1) Display manager : Lightdm vs LXDM 2) Dropping Xchat 3) Text editor : Gedit vs Leafpad Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list. I'm available online for a meeting in the next ten hours or so; I'm mostly unavailable on Sundays. Please would someone let me known in #lubuntu-offtopic if a meeting starts happens in the next few hours :) I'd suggest just leaving all three of these alone this cycle, but I am not going to spend a lot of energy fighting changes if the majority feel otherwise. A quick summary of my reasoning: (1) LXDM works, and we have close control over its upstream; I think lightdm is new and we can let others work out its early bugs (if any :) before adopting it for Lubuntu. Leave it alone, reconsider in the next cycle, would be my suggestion. (2) Xchat seems to have some folks who really like it being there by default, and who use it, and others who don't care about it and so want it dropped. Let's leave it alone, unless we *really* need that space on the CD. (3) Gedit: Serious programmers are going to install and use their favourite text editor anyway (which is probably not gedit *or* leafpad!), and I suspect most other normal users don't care that much what text editor is included, as long as it works. So leave it alone would be my suggestion. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing configuration programs
Hi there! I suggest to do some changes to Lubuntu, just adding some shortcuts to Openbox and installing a couple of apps. I've taken these instructions from the great Urukrama's Openbox web. 1. First of all we need to install amixer. Then we can set up / down / mute volume level with the following commands: up: amixer -q set Master 1+ unmute down:amixer -q set Master 1- unmute mute:amixer -q set Master toggle 2. As there's no on-screen indicator, we need to load OSDsh at startup (/etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart): osdsh (sleep 1 osdctl -m 1) This app is themeable (I could do a matching theme for it). I had an issue because OSDsh tries to access /dev/mixer that doesn't exist in Natty based distros, and I don't know how to configure for the new dev place. Dependencies of each package: osdsh needs libapm1 libxosd2 (83 kb total size) amixer is in package alsa-utils (1121 kb size, already included) -- Go to rafaellaguna.com Go to Lubuntu.net attachment: b3.pngattachment: b2.pngattachment: b1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing configuration programs
Another option is Volti, but it's a third-party app not included in Ubuntu repos. It has a great feature, it doesn't need an indicator, it has that feature within everytime the soundcard volume level changes. http://code.google.com/p/volti/ -- Go to rafaellaguna.com Go to Lubuntu.net attachment: b3.pngattachment: b2.pngattachment: b1.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Leafpad Vs gEdit
I'm with Yorvik at this, no way Gedit can replace Leafpad in my old machines! 2011/6/18 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com While I love gEdit for Python or editing .po files, with it's highlighting, auto indenting etc. it does need quite a bit of CPU/RAM and is overkill for editing small config files, scripts, etc. Stick with Leafpad, simple clean, no mess. -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Leafpad Vs gEdit
Le Saturday 18 June 2011 à 19:26 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : While I love gEdit for Python or editing .po files, with it's highlighting, auto indenting etc. it does need quite a bit of CPU/RAM and is overkill for editing small config files, scripts, etc. Stick with Leafpad, simple clean, no mess. I think the concessus is for keeping Leafpad. Let's stick with this. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat
Le Saturday 18 June 2011 à 19:20 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : No point in having two applications doing the same thing so drop XChat. I don't like Pidgin so will install XChat for IRC. Some people would like to keep XChat, but I can't find any good arguments for that. If you like a program, you know how to install it after the installation of the system. Some mentioned that the protocol implementation was better, but I didn't see any real comparaison. Finally, having 2 programs which do the same thing is usually a bad idea for a default install. I prefer to have 1 more language installed by default on the CD than a second IRC client. I'm still for the removal, unless someone come with a real good argument or an essential use case not covered by Pidgin. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat
2011/6/18 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le Saturday 18 June 2011 à 19:20 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : No point in having two applications doing the same thing so drop XChat. ... having 2 programs which do the same thing is usually a bad idea for a default install. Regards, Julien Lavergne Agree with the chief. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat
As per my earlier reply, poor little pidgin can do IRC. The question in this AIM / Yahoo! / MSN (and lots of other). Can X-Chat do that? Pidgin simply gives more options for new comers who have various other on-line accounts. Regards, Phill. On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Saturday 18 June 2011 à 19:20 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : No point in having two applications doing the same thing so drop XChat. I don't like Pidgin so will install XChat for IRC. Some people would like to keep XChat, but I can't find any good arguments for that. If you like a program, you know how to install it after the installation of the system. Some mentioned that the protocol implementation was better, but I didn't see any real comparaison. Finally, having 2 programs which do the same thing is usually a bad idea for a default install. I prefer to have 1 more language installed by default on the CD than a second IRC client. I'm still for the removal, unless someone come with a real good argument or an essential use case not covered by Pidgin. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat
I just want to chime in here on the X-chat. I love X-chat and know how to install it. Some folks don't even know what irc is. I am fairly confident, Ubuntu Desktop does not install Xchat by default, why would Lubuntu have it part of the default install? My two cents. Eric Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat
Pidgin +1 :) more options, xchat is good but pidgin is very good ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat
Agree with you. People all have their own favorite applications. For me I installed Google Chrome and removed chromium. I use emesene for MSN and Skype for VoIP. I use Pidgin for IRC only. I use geany for text editor and I'm not using Leafpad at all. After installing Lubuntu, the first thing I do is removing Abiword and installing LibreOffice. But we are talking about default applications. If you like something, just apt-get it, and there is no need to make it installed by default. The default for a distro should be sensible and less confusing for general users. If we like, there can be a meta-package named lubuntu-power-user-desktop, then you can even have eclipse as default editor + gimp as default image program if you want. lol On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le Saturday 18 June 2011 à 19:20 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : No point in having two applications doing the same thing so drop XChat. I don't like Pidgin so will install XChat for IRC. Some people would like to keep XChat, but I can't find any good arguments for that. If you like a program, you know how to install it after the installation of the system. Some mentioned that the protocol implementation was better, but I didn't see any real comparaison. Finally, having 2 programs which do the same thing is usually a bad idea for a default install. I prefer to have 1 more language installed by default on the CD than a second IRC client. I'm still for the removal, unless someone come with a real good argument or an essential use case not covered by Pidgin. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Leafpad Vs gEdit
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:26:53 +0100 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: Stick with Leafpad, simple clean, no mess. I prefer LeafPad over GEdit. -- Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Missing configuration programs
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:54:50 +0200 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) rafaellag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there! I suggest to do some changes to Lubuntu, just adding some shortcuts to Openbox and installing a couple of apps. I've taken these instructions from the great Urukrama's Openbox web. 1. First of all we need to install amixer. Then we can set up / down / mute volume level with the following commands: up: amixer -q set Master 1+ unmute down:amixer -q set Master 1- unmute mute:amixer -q set Master toggle 2. As there's no on-screen indicator, we need to load OSDsh at startup (/etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart): osdsh (sleep 1 osdctl -m 1) What's wrong with the little speaker icon that's already in the toolbar at the bottom of the screen? It already takes care of your first two points and the merits of the app is theme-able are debatable, at best. -- Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 18:33:10 -0400 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/6/18 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com Le Saturday 18 June 2011 à 19:20 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit : No point in having two applications doing the same thing so drop XChat. ... having 2 programs which do the same thing is usually a bad idea for a default install. Regards, Julien Lavergne Agree with the chief. -- jpxsat Heck, I wouldn't care if you did away with both of them. I, personally, find all chat programs to be useless fluff... but if I you MUST keep one, I would vote for whichever one is smallest. :) -- Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin XChat
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 08:43:39 +0800 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: If we like, there can be a meta-package named lubuntu-power-user-desktop, then you can even have eclipse as default editor + gimp as default image program if you want. lol LOL, one of the first things I always install is GIMP. To me any other image editor is just gimpy...er.. lame. :) -- Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Summarize of proposed changes on applications by default
+1 Coundn´t be more agree. El , Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm escribió: On 06/16/2011 03:31 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: 1) Display manager : Lightdm vs LXDM 2) Dropping Xchat 3) Text editor : Gedit vs Leafpad Are people who want to discuss this are available for a meeting this week-end ? If not, we can proceed by mail on the mailing list. I'm available online for a meeting in the next ten hours or so; I'm mostly unavailable on Sundays. Please would someone let me known in #lubuntu-offtopic if a meeting starts happens in the next few hours :) I'd suggest just leaving all three of these alone this cycle, but I am not going to spend a lot of energy fighting changes if the majority feel otherwise. A quick summary of my reasoning: (1) LXDM works, and we have close control over its upstream; I think lightdm is new and we can let others work out its early bugs (if any :) before adopting it for Lubuntu. Leave it alone, reconsider in the next cycle, would be my suggestion. (2) Xchat seems to have some folks who really like it being there by default, and who use it, and others who don't care about it and so want it dropped. Let's leave it alone, unless we *really* need that space on the CD. (3) Gedit: Serious programmers are going to install and use their favourite text editor anyway (which is probably not gedit *or* leafpad!), and I suspect most other normal users don't care that much what text editor is included, as long as it works. So leave it alone would be my suggestion. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
Lance, On 06/13/2011 10:59 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: ... you have two options if you want a package of the current libfm and pcmanfm code: (1) go ahead and package it now, yourself, in your own PPA, or (2) wait for someone else to package it. Option (2) happened, or is happening. My PPA at ppa:jmarsden/lubuntu now has libfm and pcmanfm versions for Natty 11.04, packages that you can help us test. They are being built from the upstream git development source code. Right now, the amd64 versions are already there, and the i386 build of pcmanfm should arrive in a couple of hours. So sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jmarsden/lubuntu sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install pcmanfm should get you a packaged pcmanfm you can test. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
Thank you for the patches. I took some time to look at them and found some issues. jmarsden committed 1963619 Add LINGUAS, reference doc files and libfm-pref-apps.desktop launcher: We do not translate desktop files directly. Neither do we commit the translated desktop files. We did the translation for desktop files in po files, and only put *.desktop.in files in git. So the translation should go to *.po, and merged with *.desktop.in during build process. jmarsden committed 530ac5a Ensure correct icon is used in panel. A better fix is to set the icon-name property for the window in GtkBuilder glade file instead. We generally avoid building dialog UI in source code and tend to use GtkBuilder instead when applicable. jmarsden committed 284a164 Add GLIB_LIBS when linking documentation. This seems to be fine, but I'm not sure which files should be pushed to git repo since some are generated files. jmarsden committed b61f3d6 Disable deprecated gio code by default. This looks fine, but will this affect distros with older versions of glib? jmarsden committed 618594e API change deprecating fmpath_new This one looks fine. jmarsden committed 09b6061 Specify default terminal emulator (was: 01-lxde-conf.patch in Ubuntu The x-terminal-emulator thing IIRC is Debian-specific. So this better goes to debian package rather than upstream. On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:12:06 +0800 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=156956atid=801864 OK, thanks, that's good to know. SUGGESTION: Let's test the current almost-0.9.9 codebase, fix any major issues found in the next week or so, then bump the SONAME version and release it before the end of June 2011. Can we do that? Yes, if with help from the community. No if I do it myself. Patches from Lubuntu is appreciated. Since you mentioned it: I *already* turned libfm patches from Julien's Ubuntu package of libfm into a git repo for you, six commits, and posted about doing that to this list. All that was left for you to do was to cherrypick which ones you want to include in the upstream sources: https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03977.html As far as I can see, *none* of them have been included so far! Either I did something wrong, or else you don't really want those patches? Help me understand what I have to do so you will accept the commits I made for you from Ubuntu patches, please. Since some testers seem to need packaged versions to test, I'll look at creating a test unofficial package from git for them, so we get slightly more testing. Another way to go would be to release a 0.9.9~rc1 tarball, and a corresponding one for libfm, if that is preferred -- doing that means noone has to use git head for packaging :) That's true. I'm playing with writing a script to grab the libfm git head and Julien's package and automatically create a new package based on the combination of the two. It doesn't quite work yet... if it does, I'll try to do the same for pcmanfm, and then we can create test packages for pcmanfm testers much more easily :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Call for review: PCManFM is almost ready for a new release.
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 1:07 PM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for the patches. I took some time to look at them and found some issues. jmarsden committed 1963619 Add LINGUAS, reference doc files and libfm-pref-apps.desktop launcher: Regarding to the LINGUAS file, we have a special issue here. In the past, we ship LINGUAS file with the packages. After we introduced online tranlation systems, I changed this part and have the configure script scan the po dir, and build the LINGUAS file on-the-fly. So each time a new language is added from the translation systems, nobody needs to edit the LINGUAS file. Pros: 1. Nobody needs to maintain LINGUAS file. 2. Everytime a new language is added, it's immediately available and will be picked up automatically by the build process so users can test the translations immediately. 3. XFCE, AFAIK, seems to use similar approach Cons: 1. If some newly added po files are broken, this automatically breaks the build process. 2. Some translation with bad quality becomes available before they're well-tested. Current approach is very convenient, but later proven to be problematic sometimes if there are some broken po files added to the repo. So, should we change it? If we do change it, I hope that our translation coordinator can help maintain the LINGUAS files for all LXDE components to keep them up to date. Any comments? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
