Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hmm, does any of this affect us?
On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:32:19 -0400 Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Phill, what's your question? Synaptic was removed from the default Ubuntu install, presumably to save space and most users are expected to be using Ubuntu Software Center (USC) and Update Manager. Synaptic is of course still supported in the repositories because a lot of people still use it. Removing Synaptic has been discussed/planned ever since USC was called software-store, especially since Synaptic has a lot of confusing buttons. I, persanally, find Synaptic to be superior to USC in every way. -- Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hmm, does any of this affect us?
Hi Jeremy, And the RAM / CPU Usage for USC on a minimal spec Lubuntu machine is Is kinda what I'm asking :) Regards, Phill. On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 23 June 2011 21:03, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: I do know discussions of USC, Deja-Dup etc have been mentioned but this news does puzzle me. Any devs got any ideas? I just SO know we are going to get asked on support! http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/synaptic-removed-from-ubuntu-1110-deja.html Phill, what's your question? Synaptic was removed from the default Ubuntu install, presumably to save space and most users are expected to be using Ubuntu Software Center (USC) and Update Manager. Synaptic is of course still supported in the repositories because a lot of people still use it. Removing Synaptic has been discussed/planned ever since USC was called software-store, especially since Synaptic has a lot of confusing buttons. And at the recent UDS, it was decided to include Deja Dup by default for backups. Apparently, it now has Ubuntu One support but I haven't tried it. Jeremy Bicha ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hmm, does any of this affect us?
Le Friday 24 June 2011 à 02:03 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit : I do know discussions of USC, Deja-Dup etc have been mentioned but this news does puzzle me. Any devs got any ideas? I just SO know we are going to get asked on support! http://www.webupd8.org/2011/06/synaptic-removed-from-ubuntu-1110-deja.html It doesn't affect us. It's removed from the default installation of Ubuntu, but not from the repositories. You can still install it if you want. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hmm, does any of this affect us?
Aloha oukou, With a small check with Google it seems Kubuntu never had Synaptic (or has at least replaced it with something similar, namely Adept) installed. I don't think it will be a problem to ship Lubuntu Synaptic by default. Ubuntu Software Center is available from the repositories when a user requires it. I think we should keep Synaptic the default, seeing we want a lightweight distro in contrary to the middleweight Ubuntu. With metta, Chris Druif On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 15:27, Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 24 Jun 2011 11:21:39 +0100 Phill Whiteside phi...@vpolink.com wrote: Hi Jeremy, And the RAM / CPU Usage for USC on a minimal spec Lubuntu machine is Is kinda what I'm asking :) Regards, Phill. It runs painfully slow on my little netbook... when it runs at all. -- Todd Carnes toddcar...@gmail.com ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hmm, does any of this affect us?
On 06/24/2011 03:21 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: And the RAM / CPU Usage for USC on a minimal spec Lubuntu machine is Is kinda what I'm asking :) Why are you asking that? Lubuntu is not about to start shipping USC by default. Nor is Lubuntu about to remove synaptic. People with minimal spec Lubuntu machines should install Lubuntu on them, and not Ubuntu. So people with low spec machines will never see or use USC, they will see and use synaptic. Just as they do now. This is a non-issue for Lubuntu, as far as I can see. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hmm, does any of this affect us?
This is a non-issue for Lubuntu, as far as I can see. Maybe the concern about this should be focus on the future of the app. Will it still be well supported now that's off from Ubuntu? Just how i see the problem for Lubuntu. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Hmm, does any of this affect us?
Earlier I wrote: This is a non-issue for Lubuntu, as far as I can see. On 06/24/2011 02:47 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Maybe the concern about this should be focus on the future of the app. Will it still be well supported now that's off from Ubuntu? (1) It's not off from Ubuntu -- it is just not included on the Ubuntu CD, and not installed by default. It is still included in the Ubuntu software ecosystem. rmadison -s oneiric synaptic # outputs: synaptic | 0.75.2ubuntu1 | oneiric | source, amd64, i386 It is clearly still there :) (2) The future of synaptic and how well it will be supported is really a matter for the upstream synaptic developers, and no-one on this list is a synaptic dev as far as I know. Since there is no sign of synaptic disappearing from Debian, or from the Ubuntu repositories, I think we are pretty safe there :) To me, this seems a bit like asking Now Ubuntu uses Unity by default, will the GNOME UI cease to exist or become unsupported?. No, of course it won't :) SUMMARY: As far as I can see, there is no need for concern about this. Not for concern about its effect on Lubuntu, not for concern about the future of the app, not for concern about its future support. No concern at all is warranted. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
