[Lubuntu-desktop] 11.10 testing and Main Forum area

2011-08-25 Thread Bjorn Madsen
Good mail Phil!

In addition to that I think alot of people want to contribute, but don't
know how to go about it. If we make that step easier I believe it also
becomes easier to channel the information (which the newbies bring) more
efficiently.

Here a streamlined how to contribute from the Lubuntu website joined with
the ubuntu wiki will be key: I have met questions from peers who find it
confusing that the websites have different looks because they don't know
about the legacy and the work involved in the transition, but none-the-less
this is their main gate to Lubuntu. People punch in Lubuntu + subject in
google and what-they-see-is-where-they-go...

-- 
Bjorn Madsen
*Is was there when Lubuntu 11.10 launched!*
___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news

2011-08-25 Thread Stefano
On 25/08/2011 00:34, Julien Lavergne wrote:
 Le Wednesday 24 August 2011 à 23:27 +0200, Stefano a écrit :
 new branch and new fats-search engine for the Lubuntu Software Center,
 of course is still incomplete, hope will be ready for 12.04.
 get the branch: bzr branch lp:lubuntu-software-center 
 
 Thank you for the update. It starts to be interesting and useful :)
 
 Just some comments :
 - software-center is beginning to move to packagekit backend, instead of
 the aptdaemon one. You should probably have a look at it if you want to
 to do more complex operations with the package manager. Fortunately, the
 concepts of aptdaemon and packagekit are the same, it should not block
 your UI or the way your software-center behave.
 
 - 1 feature that IMO a software-center must have, is the ability to show
 only real applications, not the list of all packages. As far as I
 know, it's not implemented in packagekit yet. 1 solution, is to parse
 the directory /usr/share/app-install/desktop/, which contain all the
 applications on Ubuntu repository (each .desktop file represent 1
 application).
 
 Also, you will need at some point a proper build system, translation
 support etc .. but it can be added later.
 
 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne
 

yes, i had taked a look to packagekit, i will look again.
of course we need a way to know if a package is a real application, are
app-install and app-install-data installed by default on lubuntu?
alternatively we can use a simple text file containing a list of the
real-applications-package.
e.g.
#apps.list
firefox
chromium
evolution
thunderbird
...

Regards
Stephen Smally

P.S. new update, indipendent search entry for available and installed
sections

___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news

2011-08-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le Thursday 25 August 2011 à 19:41 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 Parsing the result of this query
 http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contentskeywords=.desktopsubmit=Search;
  basically give you a list of real applications. However, ubuntu website only 
 returned the first 100 items found. What a pity. Otherwise we can have a 
 good, realtime, and realiable source of this list. Is it possible to get 
 support from ubuntu people? A list for real applications sounds reasonable. 

It's exactly the content of app-install directory. It's a list of the
desktop files available in all packages on Ubuntu, and it's updated
regularly. It's the same data used in software-center.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news

2011-08-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le Thursday 25 August 2011 à 14:56 +0200, Stefano a écrit :
 i've noticed that that parsing /usr/share/app-install/desktop is quite
 simple, using this list in LSC is very fast.
 the problem is merge two list. USC hide the non-real application
 packages, but i think is best do a think like this:
 in the preferences dialog (TODO) we will put a combo or a checkbutton
 calling it Expert mode, if the Expert mode is active all the
 pacackages will be listed (by default is off), if not the list will
 contains only the real applications packages (suitable for beginner).
+1, sounds good.


 another problem is that most of the desktop files, in
 /usr/share/app-install/desktop, in the section Categories have more
 of
 one value (e.g. AudioVideo and Graphics as in the package StopMotion).
 where lsc should append this packages? 
IMO, you should consider Categories like tags : 1 application can have
several tags. You can't categorize all applications with only 1
Category.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news

2011-08-25 Thread Stefano
i don't really know how to set up a ppa, but if somebody know how to do
or want get involve i can create an admin group for LSC.

i'm having some problem with the branch now, it says that the branch are
diverged, i will fix as soon as possible.

On 25/08/2011 18:17, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote:
 Stefano:
 
 Could you upload your work to a PPA for start trying LSC? It would be great.
 
 
 
 
 
 ___
 Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
 Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
 More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


[Lubuntu-desktop] When might lubuntu daily images be available again?

2011-08-25 Thread Lance
I don't know what else I can add to the title. No daily images have been 
available for several days.

I particularly want to be able to test some of the ubiquity changes with 
Lubuntu rather than Ubuntu but so far that's not possible.

Also quite a few sites now say that dailies are available but when you search 
nothing is available.

Just wondering.

Thanks in advance.

Lance
___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news

2011-08-25 Thread Phill Whiteside
And while you all laugh

Can someone give me the idiots guide as to how to pull this into my 11.10
test area? Adding PPA's I can do, but I've lost track of what is where!

Thanks,

Phill.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Stefano eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote:

 python lubuntu-software-center.py ;-D
 i've pushed the revision 14, i've changed the ui a little (that give
 more focus on the app list, give me feedback please). all the files are
 in now, ready to test.

 Regards

 Stephen Smally

 On 25/08/2011 20:37, Julien Lavergne wrote:
  Le Thursday 25 August 2011 à 12:17 -0400, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a
  écrit :
  Could you upload your work to a PPA for start trying LSC? It would be
  great.
 
  If you just want to test it, you just need to download the branch (bzr
  branch lp:lubuntu-software-center), and launch it (python
  lubuntu-software-center).
 
  Regards,
  Julien Lavergne
 
 
  ___
  Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
  Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
  Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
  More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


 ___
 Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
 Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
 More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp




-- 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw
___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC news

2011-08-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset

 If you just want to test it, you just need to download the branch (bzr
 branch lp:lubuntu-software-center), and launch it (python
 lubuntu-software-center).


Terminal output:
bzr: ERROR: Invalid http response for
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stephen-smally/lubuntu-software-center/trunk/.bzr/repository/indices/f967347238cd3d1952abaa85a72c25f6.rix:
Missing the Content-Range header in a 206 range response

Still thinking that a PPA is the best.

--
jpxsat
___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp


[Lubuntu-desktop] Thoughts from 8.10

2011-08-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
Hi people.
Has any one tried an old ubuntu lately? lets say for example 8.10? Its damn
fast!
Don't understand why from there (here in my case) Ubuntu is demanding so
many resources... i imagine 8.10 versioned as Lubuntu: it would be
awesome!
For starts, the theme (Human) renders very fast and apps open quite fast
too: there's the old add/remove applications that renders quite well too
(maybe its worth a look at the code for LSC?) and in general it behaves
quite smooth.
I'm just saying: this old OS works very fast, and I really don't know why...
but maybe the Lubuntu devs could have an explanation for it and maybe
improve Lubuntu this way.

-- 
jpxsat
___
Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
More help   : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp