Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium (really removing chromium-browser)
On 11-12-22 04:35 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: It feels mildly amusing that we are doing support for a member of the Canonical Support team :) Dear Jonathan, You may feel doubly amused to learn that I contribute regularly to the community. Anyway, I mentioned my package issue on IRC and Phill decided to post it here. -- Off topic -- Those Ubuntunites interested in helping with the Ubuntu Server Guide can ping me on #ubuntu-server or send me a private email. Otherwise, just see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide Happy Holidays everyone. -- Peter Matulis ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
Hi Lance, Finally I can tell who is* kansasnoob* :) Thanks for your reply. Yes, I saw it before (but honestly did not read it all) and I just read it now. One thing I'm in doubt about it: I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed and it's up and running. I have done all the updates and upgrades ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11559293postcount=23) and now, I want to use zsync that I already installed. *From my understanding to all this, I just need to do this*: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111222/precise-desktop-i386.iso.zsync From Terminal and that is all, right? Now, as per your post that you mentioned ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4) and as per this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage ... zsync will NOT update the installed system but will update the previously downloaded iso so that you'll get the LATEST Daily Image and then you just need to burn a CD and Install all over again, right? I just need to double check and make sure we are in the same page :) Now, another doubt: What's the point from all the above if I do: sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Isn't that enough? Sorry of my questions are so silly but I'm very new in testing. Last time I tested Lubutnu 11.10 Beta 2 and that was for 10 days or more so didn't learn much stuff at that time. I'm very much willing to learn and understand more at the moment. Thank you in advance and I wish whatever I do will help Lubuntu and Lubuntu Users. Yes, I know I did nothing yet but I'm doing my best. Regards, amjjawad/A.J On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you see my post late into Oneiric final testing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4 If any of that is the least bit confusing please PM me. You seldom, actually almost never, need to DL an entire new iso - but you will have to burn a new disc! I appreciate your contribution to Lubuntu and I'll be glad to help you in any way I can. --- On *Tue, 12/13/11, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com* wrote: From: amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:04 PM Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion. I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18 I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync? Hope it's clear now :) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :) Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much except waiting - any other website will be slow. Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.nethttp://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.nethttp://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
On 12/23/2011 06:52 AM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed and it's up and running. I have done all the updates and upgrades ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11559293postcount=23) and now, I want to use zsync that I already installed. *From my understanding to all this, I just need to do this*: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111222/precise-desktop-i386.iso.zsync You can't zsync already installed packages, you zsync an ISO image file. This updates it to a newer verson of that ISO image, without re-downloading the parts that have not changed. zsync is used for updating an ISO image file, one you can then burn to CD, etc. It is *not* a way to update an installed system. ... zsync will NOT update the installed system but will update the previously downloaded iso so that you'll get the LATEST Daily Image and then you just need to burn a CD and Install all over again, right? Right. Remember, this is for testing, which includes testing of installation. Now, another doubt: What's the point from all the above if I do: sudo apt-get upgrade This first one should be update not upgrade, I think. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade That updates your existing, already installed, machine. It does not test the installer, or the installer slideshow, for example, which may have been changed between the time you first installed Lubuntu and the time you do the update. Isn't that enough? No. They do two *very* different things: (1) An end user, wanting to keep their machine updated, can do sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade to update their already-installed Lubuntu machine. (2) ISO testers, who will retest installation of Lubuntu from the ISO image on a variety of machines, and using a variety of different installation options, need an updated ISO to do that kind of testing with. Using zsync can help such testers them obtain an updated ISO image without wasting Internet bandwidth. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] About Xscreensaver
It has been pointed in the past, that for old machines Xcreensaver makes everything sluggish (i can make proof of it because some installations of Lubuntu have crashed because it tries to launch xcreensaver and everything falls apart AND in my pentium 3 @1000mhz the first thing i cut is the screensaver because it slows the whole system) If I remember correctly, drop xcreensaver was a bad idea just for the blocking screen. I've been using a little Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm wondering if they still use a screensaver at all. Maybe they are using something different just to block the screen? If yes, maybe we could use the same thing and cut xcreensaver from Lubuntu. -- jpxsat ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About Xscreensaver
Le 12/23/2011 10:16 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : It has been pointed in the past, that for old machines Xcreensaver makes everything sluggish (i can make proof of it because some installations of Lubuntu have crashed because it tries to launch xcreensaver and everything falls apart AND in my pentium 3 @1000mhz the first thing i cut is the screensaver because it slows the whole system) If I remember correctly, drop xcreensaver was a bad idea just for the blocking screen. I've been using a little Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm wondering if they still use a screensaver at all. Maybe they are using something different just to block the screen? If yes, maybe we could use the same thing and cut xcreensaver from Lubuntu. They are using compiz to lock the screen, so we can't use the same :) 1 thing I will change for 12.04 is to change the behavior by default, using only a blank screen instead of the animated one. It should be nicer for your type of configuration. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About Xscreensaver
Thanks Julien, I always forget to disable it and then wonder why my CPU usage on my latest VM install is driving my CPU so high after about 10 minutes when I am on my 'main' system. Less is more :) Regards, Phill. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le 12/23/2011 10:16 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit : It has been pointed in the past, that for old machines Xcreensaver makes everything sluggish (i can make proof of it because some installations of Lubuntu have crashed because it tries to launch xcreensaver and everything falls apart AND in my pentium 3 @1000mhz the first thing i cut is the screensaver because it slows the whole system) If I remember correctly, drop xcreensaver was a bad idea just for the blocking screen. I've been using a little Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm wondering if they still use a screensaver at all. Maybe they are using something different just to block the screen? If yes, maybe we could use the same thing and cut xcreensaver from Lubuntu. They are using compiz to lock the screen, so we can't use the same :) 1 thing I will change for 12.04 is to change the behavior by default, using only a blank screen instead of the animated one. It should be nicer for your type of configuration. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Merry Christmas
Hi, as we are all on different Time Zones... As I'm out for pre-Christmas drink tomorrow, may I wish all of you an excellent Christmas to you, your families and your loved ones. My warmest wishes to you all. Regards, Phill. -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About Xscreensaver
On 12/23/2011 06:09 PM, ∅ wrote: Really? I've never had this problem, VM or not. Which screensaver are you using? I'm using GLMatrix. The default one does it for me, at least in virtualbox VMs. Although I usually don't notice it for weeks, because I leave only one such VM running unles I am doing something fairly unusual, and on a quad core CPU, having just one core wasting its time screensaving a VM doesn't really make any noticeable difference to normal desktop usage at all -- then much much later, I run something that really taxes the CPU and can use multiple threads, run top or htop, and there it is :) Setting the xscreensaver default to blank screen seems like a good solution, being (hopefully) straightforward to implement, and yet reducing the unwanted CPU load very substantially. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
