Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] please unsubscribe me. you don't make it easy like other places

2011-12-26 Thread Jared Norris
On 26 December 2011 15:50, Aryeh Beitz aryehbe...@gmail.com wrote:


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It is very easy. For yourself and anyone else wanting to modify their
settings please see the footer from Aryeh's message. It has a link to
the mailing list information, what address to post to, where to go to
unsubscribe, and where to get more help.

Aryeh, essentially all you need to do is go to
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button near the bottom of the page.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Doc/Support Request] Removal of Bluetooth

2011-12-26 Thread A. Andjelkovic
Hi list,

As I was looking around the web for a way to remove/disable bluetooth
completely, as the BIOS of the machine can't do it for some reason (I
rather not flash it). I noticed that there were no good documentation
regarding this issue, neither on our own wiki[1], help.ubuntu[2], or
arch's wiki[3].

So I shamefully ask if someone could provide their expertise to
document this issue?

Ideas on what to cover:

*Disabling bluetooth by configuration.
*Removing bluetooth related packages.
*Disabling the kernel module (for marginal boot time decrease, if any).

Regards,
Alexander.

[1]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation
[2]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bluetooth
[3]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bluetooth

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Viewnior?

2011-12-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
Will Viewnior be the default image viewer in 12.04 ? In 11.04 and 11.10 
it's not in the repos...


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Viewnior?

2011-12-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/26/2011 12:09 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote:

 Will Viewnior be the default image viewer in 12.04 ? In 11.04 and 11.10
 it's not in the repos...


There are some issues with the modified included graphics library that
Viewnior uses, and Debian/Ubuntu packaging policy.  Its author does not
want it included linking to the system version of library...

So what we originally thought was a technical issue (get it packaged and
into Debian, sync to Ubuntu) has turned into a much more complicated
packaging/policy/desires-of-authors issue.  I do not know if this will
all get resolved well in time for 12.04.

Jonathan


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Viewnior?

2011-12-26 Thread PCMan
Yet another issue is, the underlying lib viewnior use, GtkImageView only
has gtk2 support.
It's a nice little library providing a lightweight and really fast
gtk-based image viewer UI component.
It's a pity that no gtk3 porting was done so far.
Sooner or later we need to migrate to gtk3. If this issue cannot be
resolved at the moment. :-(

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 6:40 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fmwrote:

 On 12/26/2011 12:09 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote:

  Will Viewnior be the default image viewer in 12.04 ? In 11.04 and 11.10
  it's not in the repos...


 There are some issues with the modified included graphics library that
 Viewnior uses, and Debian/Ubuntu packaging policy.  Its author does not
 want it included linking to the system version of library...

 So what we originally thought was a technical issue (get it packaged and
 into Debian, sync to Ubuntu) has turned into a much more complicated
 packaging/policy/desires-of-authors issue.  I do not know if this will
 all get resolved well in time for 12.04.

 Jonathan


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Viewnior?

2011-12-26 Thread 魏銘廷
The gtkimageview with GTK3 patch is in the SVN (and is done because of
Evolution mail client). However, the author didn't release it.

And, if we can accept the author's version of Viewnior, it also states
for GTK3 support.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 7:48 AM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yet another issue is, the underlying lib viewnior use, GtkImageView only has
 gtk2 support.
 It's a nice little library providing a lightweight and really fast gtk-based
 image viewer UI component.
 It's a pity that no gtk3 porting was done so far.
 Sooner or later we need to migrate to gtk3. If this issue cannot be resolved
 at the moment. :-(

Thanks,
-- 
Yao Wei

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[Lubuntu-desktop] A small typo on lubuntu.net

2011-12-26 Thread Hùng Trần
Hi all,

On lubuntu.net, it says Get lubuntu and join the team to make it better.
Please refer to the Lubuntu 11.11 Release Notes for more info..

The version should be 11.10.

Regards,
TRẦN Duy Hùng
http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/
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[Lubuntu-desktop] About lxpanel2

2011-12-26 Thread PCMan
Recently there are some discussions about lxpanel on the mailing list,
which is really great.
Hope that we can have a new maintainer for it.

The original lxpanel, however, is bound to gtk2, xlib, and some
linux-specific stuff.
This makes migration to new technology very difficult.
Much has happened in recent years.
1. gtk3 replaces gtk2.
  The management of window geometry and underlying drawing parts have
radical and backward incompatible changes.
  Background image support will be completely broken in gtk3 as many
deprecated APIs are removed from gtk3, especially the pixmap-related ones.
2. HAL is deprecated and now we have udisks/upower (linux-only), and things
never work for other unix variants.
3. logout/shutdown should be done with ConsoleKit now.
4. Xlib is going to be replaced by xcb.
5. Xorg will sooner or later be replaced by Wayland in some distros
6. gio and dbus became widely used nowadays.
7. pulse audio is widely used, and direct ALSA access sometimes causes
problems

Hence, making old code work with new tech might even be more difficult then
a rewrite.
That's why a rewrite/redesign is planned.
A project without many maintainers should not be trapped in the vicious
cycle of fixing the broken compatibilities again and again.
We have only one way out, reusing existing libraries whenever possible and
trying not to touch too low level stuff.

Now I mainly focus on finishing pcmanfm 1.0, but previously I already have
a proof-of-concept prototype for lxpanel2. It's now 40% finished.
Here is the spec of the new lxpanel2.

1. Mainly written in Vala, and use C when absolutely needed to speed up
developement
2. Directly based on gtk3 and does not mess with gtk2. Drawing stuff will
be done completely with cairo.
3. Built with CMake instead of automake (already done)
4. Use standard widgets whenever possible to get proper accessibility
support (important!!)
5. Network monitor part is based on libgtop (90% finished)
Libgtop is a nice lightweight library designed for system monitoring.
It works for major systems, not Linux-only.
Even better, it has no gnome dependency.
6. Pager and task manager part will use libwnck. (80% finished)
With libwnck, we do not touch underlying X11 stuff and can be much more
portable and resistant to future changes of X.
Though it's a gnome lib, it only depends on gtk and has no other gnome
dependencies.
The implementation is quite clean and complete and the APIs are well
documented, making it nice to work with.
7. Battery monitor will use dbus + UPower. (70% finished)
Glib/gio has built-in dbus support now so no additional deps are
needed. Vala even has dbus integration at the language level. Great!
This may be much better than read from /sys as upower devs will handle
future incompatible changes and provide a constant dbus interface.
8. IPC stuff will use dbus instead of XSelection hacks. (dbus is quite
common now and glib has built-in support)
9. The config file might become a single xml file (not sure, still under
evaluation. Ini file based solution is not very handy for tree like data
structure)
10.The UI might be similar than that of the old lxpanel initially, but in
the future we need to be more unique and won't be Windows-like.
11.Volume control should be an additional plugin or systray applet instead
of built into the panel. So we won't depend on ALSA by default.

Instead of reinventing everything in a poor manner, this time I will reuse
existing implementations whenever possible
if they are lightweight enough. This should decrease maintenance load to a
minimum and guarantee tolerance to future changes.
With Vala, coding became much faster than before. To achieve the same
functionality as in C, I felt that only 1/3 of code is needed.
Though the new lxpanel2 will not be available soon, it will be pushed into
repo once I got a first working version.
Of course, this should happen after the file manager 1.0 is done.

Thanks for your patience.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LxScreenshot update

2011-12-26 Thread PCMan
I just created a git repo in lxde project for lxscreenshot.
See
http://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=lxde/lxscreenshot;a=summary

git://lxde.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/lxde/lxscreenshot (read-only)
ssh://usern...@lxde.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/lxde/lxscreenshot(read/write)

About how to use the git service provided by sourceforge:
https://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Git#CreatingMultipleRepositories

Thank you for the nice applications. Push it to our git repo when you have
time, please.
Cheers!
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