Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Intersting Article
Yes. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: I don't contest the results but can someone explain how a lighter DE uses less power? Is it because the CPU is used less so takes less juice? Nice article though. KDE is really bloated and the Kubuntu team is quite small. -Andy On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote: I especially like the little list at the bottom http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/KDE-a-resource-hog-949634.html ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Notes
+1 2010/2/28 神癒礁湖 rafaellag...@gmail.com Another suggestion. It would be great to have a notes applications, like Tomboy, bu without its resource hungry. So I think XPAD would be great. What do you think? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Colourchange?
+1 4 Blue. On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote: I still like blue better. for me it doesn't really matter that there are othes blue distros, it's just a good looking colour and I gues everything's aesthetical with it, unlike with green imo. I mea, it is possible to make sth look good with green, but i think it would be really dissicult to match it to lubuntu - a very narrow selection of green shades is aesthetical for such use, and it matches poorly with other colours. I think that even red or purple would do better, but that's my personal opinion. maybe gray variations would be nice too, or maybe we could mix many colours, instead of keeping everyting in one? mixture of blue, dark green, with white, gray and black accents. what do you think? I just don't really think it looks good in just green. but decision is up to whole community ;) 2010/2/17 jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com: look, we didnt even agree on the logo in the artwork team. There are so many ideas. But if you guys say green would be ok or even better than blue, the artwork-team could concentrate on designing green logos. just look at the attachement! these are just some from dozens of ideas. 2010/2/17 Sylkis syl...@gmail.com I know it's a quickly made paintswitch, but that greeness and metallic LXDE logo doesn't really fit imo, maybe a change should go even further for a nice result? 2010/2/17 jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com: i just made some with kolourpaint... wait, ill attach them 2010/2/17 Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com Can we see some quick concepts? Green is a pleasing color, I personally prefer dark themes :) GB On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 1:23 PM, jo franz jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote: hey guys, someone from the artworkteam had a really good idea today: what about a change from blue to green? we would have to change all the wallpapers, logos and the whole design, but i think it would be worth the time. The Kubuntu logo is blue, also the one from Xubuntu - why shouldn't we try something new? Lubuntu will be a standalone Distribution - we don't have to take the same colours as the other official ubuntu-derivates. The colour green would fit nicely with the idea of lxde using less resources, how jekopsch, the one who had this idea, said. So what do you think, guys? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215
This is shaping up very very well. On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:13:19 -, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features. Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable, see warnings for Lucid Alpha : Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage. They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs. Changes seen the Alpha 2 : * Main changes in the seed : - chromium for the browser - gnome-mplayer for the videos - network-manager for the network * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like it :) * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter login ubuntu without password. Known bugs: * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when you click on Try Lubuntu Just wait, it will continue as normal. * Bug reported during testing : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.isohttp://people.ubuntu.com/%7Egilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso Regards, Julien Lavergne Currently booting, will let you know in 3-4 hours whether a fresh install is a success or not. -- Steve ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last changes to applications installed by default
Fantastic! Thank you. On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, First, I would like to thanks all people for their feedbacks. Also, I know people will be disagree about some choices, but we can't make all people agreed :) Remember that the goal is to provide a distribution ready to use, especially designed for low ressource hardware. This list can evolve before the final release, but I would like to not change it too much, so we can focus on bug fix and integration. So, this is the last changes proposal : === chromium for the browser === Well, it's not because Chromium is the best, it's more because the others options is not really suitable, for different reasons : - Firefox have serious performance problem on limited hardware. - Midori have limited features, limited upstream ressources (compare to others), with not significant ressources gain. === gnome-mplayer for videos === There is no reason to keep smplayer which bring extra depends on QT, when gnome-mplayer have the same functionalities. === network-manager instead of wicd === This was not planned at the first time, but there are the reasons : new version of wicd (1.7.0) use 2 instances, and this double the among of memory it used. Also, there is some reports that wireless is not supported in some cases. Network-manager is not perfect, but the support is quite good, and we can share the maintenance with other teams. Also, memory usage is not that bad, but it's definitely better than wicd. === Using pcmanfm2 instead of old pcmanfm === Lubuntu Lucid will be the first real release for Lubuntu. It's not the end, but I hope the beginning for it. It makes more sense to use directly the futur pcmanfm, than working on the old one which will be deprecated very soon. For others part, no change. It's mean, keeping Aqualung for music player and Sylpheed for e-mail. There was arguments for and against Sylpheed, some preferred Claw-Mails. But there is no big arguments for a switch, as the memory and CPU usage are the same, and main functionalities are in both clients. I'll made the changes to the Lubuntu packages and release a testing ISO tomorrow or Monday. We will have a complete week to test it, until the IRC meeting next Sunday, and do adjustments if it's needed. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC meeting : Sunday 14 February 15:00 UTC
Doug , Honestly dude wouldn't you rather Celebrate the holiday? Yea me to...lol. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Douglas Stanley d...@douglasstanley.comwrote: This is also St. Valentines day here in the states. Some of us (like my self) may not be able to make it due to the wife getting pissed at me for spending time with the computer instead of her factor :) Doug On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:20 PM, Mario Behling m...@mariobehling.de wrote: Hi, yes, very good. We need an IRC. February 14 is Lunar New Year (Chinese New Year, Tet in Vietnam etc) though. Many people in Asia might be busy and not able to participate. Can we make it one week later? February 21? Or maybe have one again on February 21 in case anyone would like to add something to the discussion? What do you think? Ciao Mario PS: In any case, the time seems good to have many people participating from all over the world. Only for the Middle East it is a bit early: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=2day=14year=2010hour=15min=0sec=0p1=0 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:47 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I would like to plan an IRC meeting, for all people interesting in the Lubuntu development, on Sunday 14 February 15:00 UTC. It will be the occasion to finalize the list of default applications, and for people who want to ask questions about the development. This meeting will take place on the #lubuntu chan on freenode. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ubucompilator
Sorry dude but I don't see any reason why Lubuntu would need a compiler unless the user decided to use one , But thanks for the heads up , nice prog. Cheers. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 4:58 AM, gusions gusi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi i will talk about a new software: Ubucompilator (lubucompilator for lxde user)! Ubucompilator is a new software to improve the user experience at the time of compilation! I will proprose the software at the lubuntu's peopole. You can look the ubucompilator blog a this adress http://ubucompilator.wordpress.com/ Best Regards, Gusions. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu desktop image?
You can also command line install from the mini.iso and then grab the meta packages from launchpad , that's the most up to date way of doing it as of now. afaik there's no official test iso right now. Cheers. On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 7:48 AM, Zoltan Matlak matlakz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, There has been lots of emails about what packages to include in the new LUbuntu distribution. Seems like the list is somewhat final. I would like to install it and test the current version. I could not find any iso image available. Could you please guide me what to do? As a temporary solution what I did, is I first got a masonux distribution (9.10 beta2, it's an Ubuntu 9.10 + LXDE distro) and then sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop Any ISO image and/or usb image would do (found some old ones from september, but since then lot of things changed). Thanks for your help in advance. Zoltan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Tested on MSI Wind U100
I agree with David. Also anyone who is performing these highly specialized installations is certainly going to have the knowledge required to open the command line and sudo apt-get whatever gui or lack thereof he/she wants. n Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:26 PM, David Sugar david.su...@canonical.comwrote: I actually was not suggesting there should be such a remix. I was suggesting however that one could potentially do this with mini-iso install by selecting them explicitly at install time if we have lxde desktop as a task in mini-iso. And yes, one could do a server install and add lxde/lubuntu after. It can in some cases be useful to have a local server gui console. Another interesting scenario is ltsp. Mikhail Maksimov wrote: Hello. Just one thing I wanted to note: server GUI is a bad idea. If you want server, you install server, if you want a workstation on low-grade hardware, you install Lubuntu. If you have low-grade hardware to use as a server, you definitely shouldn't be wasting the precious (and, oh, so limited!) RAM and CPU resources on GUI instead of serving something. If someone wants to have lubuntu desktop on server, there's always an option of installing server then adding any desktop environment, or maybe installing Lubuntu then switching to the server kernel. But I think all the possible mix options should not be part of Lubuntu installer, nor should there be a separate server+LXDE remix of Lubuntu (Ubuntu?) Regards! Mikhail PS If you don't like vi, you can use nano, it's part of the server install and it is WYSIWIG. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:44 AM, Josef A. Beroeatwarin rajatanpacel...@gmail.com mailto:rajatanpacel...@gmail.com wrote: Hai everybody Hai I tested Lubuntu on my MSI wind U100, I am not a pro like you guys but I like to have my hands on it because I really believe lubuntu will be much better the Xubuntu. And of course I WANT to have a very lightweight linux on my netbook and PC. I am running on Ubuntu 9.10 remix installed on my MSI Wind U100, after I while I started with Apt to install LXDE After running on LXDE I was satisfied and very optimistic that it will be one that I am looking for.( after a lot of switching for linux to linux) Here are the problems on the MSI wind U100: * Filemanager Pcman 0.5.1 on the left windows are drives displayed twice. if you click one of the with the same name you will get an error-message Directory doesnt exist * Wicd it a very nice looking piece but to bad, to while connection the the wirelles network (WEP) ofcourse it was validated but I got an error message Connection failed:Unable get IP Adress that was during the status Obtaining IP address. * I have no sound I realize I have no mixer something like that so I dont know if its muting or not. * FN keys. FN+F4 and FN+F5 is working very well,its for dimming the back-light and FN+F12 sleep mode is working but after wakeup its starting to sleep again and again after wakeup *My bluetooth is witched on with FN+F11 but no blue-tooth detected (sorry I forgot to listed with lsusb before installing ubuntu remix again) * Harddisk external and flashdisk is working very well. My Questions,request,Ideas,what I hope very soon or whatever it is. 1. The Lubuntu in alpha stage on iso,when. Ofcourse everybody is busy. 2. Lubuntu on flash disk image because there is alot of netbooks without CD or DVD. 3. Sometimes I got netbook that has an SDcard as HDA is it compatible with it ? 4. I think Lubuntu will be great for creating server from old PC's with GUI interface instead having console at from your nose and doing that Vi thing.Maybe is there somebody can make a server edition. While installing you can choose what of kind of server do you want to install. 5. And nice front-end for backup that can make image of the drives. 6. Do you guys think that thunderbird and firefox take of computer sources especially nower days there is allot of websites based on flash like farmville it make even windows xp slow. 7. What is the other syntax like dmesg and lsusb that I can use to get info out of my toys and to send to you guys. 8. Last thing that I want to say is.. I am sorry for starting asking allot of questions even the alpha is not out yet... Well guys thats it... I hope its enough for the input. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net mailto:lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Preferred Lubuntu install instructions?
Right now you can just perform a command line installation and then add the Lxde packages On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Mike Shaw mdsha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I know you can throw LXDE on an Ubuntu a million different ways but what is the preferred method? Should this be used as a reference: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu I've searched the wiki but haven't found anything. Thanks, Mike --- Rorschach: By the way, you need a stronger lock. That new one broke after one shove. - Watchmen ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Forum
Thanks! On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:16 PM, jon york jr_...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi guys here is the forum location, just a quick and free forum for us, I am a webmaster, and own my own host, so we can discuss that later when we actually have a beta version to release to public, and we are ready to submit for an official variation of ubuntu here is the forum http://lubuntu.forumotion.comhttp://lubuntu.forumotion.com/login.forum?username=Admin have fun guys and girls :P Jon York ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy Slow)
Good eye there David! On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:15 PM, David Sugar david.su...@canonical.comwrote: Related to this question is what to do with what is currently the separate lxde blueprint in Launchpad: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop I would be happy to see about transferring it to the Lubuntu Team if the Lubuntu team does wish to formally take it over... In any case, yes, I also think the key is finding the right reasonable mix. Ed Hewitt wrote: I think we should go with Firefox. However, OpenOffice would solve the problem of having no presentation software if we went with Abiword Gnumeric. We could use these tweaks to speed up OpenOffice. http://lifehacker.com/software/optimization/speed-up-openoffice-270775.php By going small, we will achieve the objective of achieving a lightweight distro. However, I still think a good out of the box experience, as long as we keep it to a minimal. So by having a few basic utilities (such as synaptic), need a few must have apps (such as web browser, office apps, chat, media player). we can still achieve a user friend lightweight distro. Its all about getting the right balance. Maybe another Lubuntu IRC Meeting could be useful to discuss my points. It would be great to have an application list set in time for Karmic. Could be Lubuntu's first release -- www.edhewitt.co.uk http://www.edhewitt.co.uk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy Slow)
Yep , but Debian LXDE does have the entire open office suite installed and it weights in at just under 500 megs. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: It's not copying, it is as you say learning from others. OpenOffice just isn't suitable but will be accessible via reops if you must install it. I personally only use abiword and know a great many users who have the entire suite installed and only use the writer. Its laughable. On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Dallas Wiebelhaus wiebelh...@gmail.comwrote: I agree Abiword is so incredibly fast and small and if someone has not tried it they should give it a spin , it's a brilliant little application! I could foresee someone adding openoffice if they needed that extra functionality but for simple out of the box word processing in a small efficient quick package , abiword can't be beat. We should all take a long hard look at what other small distributions are doing because they like Puppy have already pounded these discussions out , I'm not saying to copy but to learn from from their methodology. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: OpenOffice in my opinion is far too bulky for a lightweight distro. 0 upgraded, 44 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 123MB of archives. After this operation, 412MB of additional disk space will be used. Its just stupidly fat and bloated and doesn't fit with the ethos of Lubuntu. 0.5Gb for office productivity when gnumeric and abiword use a microscopic fraction of this. No way -Andy On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Ed Hewitt edwardahew...@googlemail.com wrote: I think we should go with Firefox. However, OpenOffice would solve the problem of having no presentation software if we went with Abiword Gnumeric. We could use these tweaks to speed up OpenOffice. http://lifehacker.com/software/optimization/speed-up-openoffice-270775.php By going small, we will achieve the objective of achieving a lightweight distro. However, I still think a good out of the box experience, as long as we keep it to a minimal. So by having a few basic utilities (such as synaptic), need a few must have apps (such as web browser, office apps, chat, media player). we can still achieve a user friend lightweight distro. Its all about getting the right balance. Maybe another Lubuntu IRC Meeting could be useful to discuss my points. It would be great to have an application list set in time for Karmic. Could be Lubuntu's first release -- www.edhewitt.co.uk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy Slow)
By the way , Chrome fits in like it's native and is running hella fast on this DE on my test box. I'm about to crank the ram down and see how low I can get. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: This is kinda surplus, the system is still ubuntu based so the standard repos can be used to install apps if they are needed. If the OS is going to be as it says below, you may as well install a minimal install then have a gui to select apps which can then be installed off the repos. This however isn't the case, we are trying to make a smalland efficient distro with a decent amount of functionality without bloating the system with the likes of evolution, openoffice and firefox. These are fully installable once the installation has completed but the initial base system should be slick and quick On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:14 AM, C David Rigby c.david.ri...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 18:40 +0100, Ed Hewitt and several others wrote: discussion of keep it light or feature complete elided Restating the obvious, but the engineering trade off is always between ease of use/fully featured on the one hand and lightweight on the other. The necessary criterion is to decide what we really want to build, and make it unique and useful enough to attract interest. I've proposed it before, but I'll say it again as more people are on the list now (sorry that I've missed the IRC meetings for the last two weeks where the app mix has been the topic of discussion). How about the possibility of a very slim base install with the installer offering bundles to meet individual needs and desires? Something like the FreeBSD or Debian text installers comes to mind. The base installation would be just a command-line, network-capable system plus enough of X to get LXDE operational. We would be pushing the real work to the installer. The installer, whether text-based or grahpical, would need to provide a lot of choices of bundles to install. More importantly, I think the installer should provide something I have yet to see. That something is extensive documentation of the choices of bundles of applications, and what they mean in terms of system performance vs features. It should be organized so that a savvy user could bypass the explanations (or load a jumpstart script), but a novice would get a detailed explanation of what the choices are and what they mean for the final installed system. My $0.02. Cheers C David Rigby ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy Slow)
Stabilized without hiccups at 128mb ram , that's without youtube lagging out , you can go lower no doubt. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Dallas Wiebelhaus wiebelh...@gmail.comwrote: By the way , Chrome fits in like it's native and is running hella fast on this DE on my test box. I'm about to crank the ram down and see how low I can get. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: This is kinda surplus, the system is still ubuntu based so the standard repos can be used to install apps if they are needed. If the OS is going to be as it says below, you may as well install a minimal install then have a gui to select apps which can then be installed off the repos. This however isn't the case, we are trying to make a smalland efficient distro with a decent amount of functionality without bloating the system with the likes of evolution, openoffice and firefox. These are fully installable once the installation has completed but the initial base system should be slick and quick On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:14 AM, C David Rigby c.david.ri...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 18:40 +0100, Ed Hewitt and several others wrote: discussion of keep it light or feature complete elided Restating the obvious, but the engineering trade off is always between ease of use/fully featured on the one hand and lightweight on the other. The necessary criterion is to decide what we really want to build, and make it unique and useful enough to attract interest. I've proposed it before, but I'll say it again as more people are on the list now (sorry that I've missed the IRC meetings for the last two weeks where the app mix has been the topic of discussion). How about the possibility of a very slim base install with the installer offering bundles to meet individual needs and desires? Something like the FreeBSD or Debian text installers comes to mind. The base installation would be just a command-line, network-capable system plus enough of X to get LXDE operational. We would be pushing the real work to the installer. The installer, whether text-based or grahpical, would need to provide a lot of choices of bundles to install. More importantly, I think the installer should provide something I have yet to see. That something is extensive documentation of the choices of bundles of applications, and what they mean in terms of system performance vs features. It should be organized so that a savvy user could bypass the explanations (or load a jumpstart script), but a novice would get a detailed explanation of what the choices are and what they mean for the final installed system. My $0.02. Cheers C David Rigby ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
