Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] precise artwork

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Rafael,

So, we install the new one and then choose a theme we like? (Shhs, don't
tell anyone - horror forbid we have a choice :P ) As ever Rafael, thanks
for the hard work you and your small team put in. It is such an important
element of the system.

@ Julien - How soon to the staging PPA?

thanks,

Phill.

On 27 January 2012 19:44, 神癒礁湖  wrote:

> **
> Hi, people:
>
> I have updated the artwork (again). I REALLY recommend you to replace your
> Ozone3 theme with this one (a lot of improvements solve several bugs).
> Also, the wallpaper is ready (after a selection process). Again no option
> for colour (sorry) for us and Xubuntu devs (also Kubuntu are "slaved" to
> its plasmoid style) due to "Canonical restrictions".
>
> If you feel better, the new artwork package will include all previous
> Lubuntu themes and some walls by the Flickr community. Check out:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Precise/Ozone
>
> As always, feedback is appreciated. Thanks.
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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 911905] Re: hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

[Phill Whiteside]

This has solved the problem in lubuntu

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Title:
  hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

Status in GTK+ GUI Toolkit:
  Fix Released
Status in “gtk+3.0” package in Ubuntu:
  Fix Released

Bug description:
  When choosing "install xubuntu" from the cd menu, hitting enter on the
  first screen causes the language to jump to the topmost language.

  Verified using both VirtualBox and Hardware, this can be reproduced in
  both Ubuntu and Xubuntu desktop images.

  TESTCASE:

  1. when cd spins up, hit enter to accept default language
  2. hold right shift in Ubuntu for cd menu, menu is default in Xubuntu
  3. Select "Install Xubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu"
  4. At first screen in Ubiquity, hit enter to select English and continue
  5. Note next screen is not in English.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: ubiquity 2.9.10
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-7.13-generic-pae 3.2.0-rc7
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-7-generic-pae i686
  ApportVersion: 1.90-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: i386
  CasperVersion: 1.296
  Date: Wed Jan  4 18:04:56 2012
  LiveMediaBuild: Xubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" - Alpha i386 (20120104)
  ProcEnviron:
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: ubiquity
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Marketing Team?

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Ali,

comms will be looking after that. The Art-team do the fantastic banners and
CD folder graphics along with their work on icons, themes etc. (Keeps them
out of mischief :P ).

Regards,

Phill.


On 18 January 2012 09:52, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> As far as I remember, we didn't talk yet about The Marketing Team, did we?
> or maybe the communication team will do the marketing job?
>
> I see almost everything is set: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeamsand I 
> hope things will be finalized soon and everyone will start working on
> his/her area which is GREAT :)
>
> Thanks!
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] comms and Lubuntu Support Team.

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi gang!

*Comms: *
They have an immediate focus on things like getting the blog up and running
(my task). Jens has asked that he may interview someone from each team so
as to better advertise who we are and our structure. I know that you will
take the time out for that. The human face of the people who 'are' lubuntu.
There may be times when Jens needs to be able to confirm / deny a story
that leaks out quickly so as to enforce that the
https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms is THE place to get 'correct'
information as opposed to rumours. I ask, therefore, that the devs would
join that area so that any news from them does not languish in the
moderation queue. There is no need to join the ML unless you want to. For
every other member of lubuntu who is an advocate, please do join & let
comms know what you are doing.

*Lubuntu Support Team: *

Ali is more than happy to take the role of co-ordinator of LST (not be
confused with LTS). The basis of this is going to be:

The new lubuntu-supp...@lists.ubuntu.com list can be only for
support-related discussion, stuff like: "I think *this* issue is a FAQ, has
anyone else been asked something like this?", or "Help, I don't know the
answer to *that*, but I think it matters, any ideas on a solution or
workaround anyone?".

Regarding having a visible tracking list of
currently important/unanswered/might be a FAQ kinds of support issues, I'd
suggest a wiki page would be a logical medium for the team to use to
maintain such a list.

(Thanks JM for that insight)

*Bug reporting and LST: *

Whilst not wishing to discourage people from logging bug reports, most of
my mail from the bug-team is actually "This is a duplicate of bug xx".
I'd like to mention that an apport raised bug is easily checked to see if
the bug is already there. I know that n00bs do not know how to check. For
the rest of us, if there is doubt if it is a bug, or a feature that is not
there (Wish List), or a possible mis-configuration of customising their
system - would they please ask before logging a bug via launchpad, this
also applies to "what do I log it against".  I'll link the bug reporting
system wiki page to the LST wiki page

Well, as they say at marriages... for all those who disagree with this
creation of the two new groups ground rules, speak now or else wait until
they have all being running a while and we can fine tune them.

So, that is v0.99 for each of those two teams.

And just to prove it is not all bad news, The
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation has had its first
tidy up, there is still work to be done to get the 'old' areas off it and
onto their own areas. We are making progress! The full tidying up of our
wiki areas will take some time and I'd like to thank Chris for not
resigning as soon as he saw the task!

Regards,

Phill.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New mailing list, PLEASE READ

[Phill Whiteside]

I am still awaiting a deffinitive answer from the devs

Too busy coding to answer us mere mortals :P

Regards,

Phill.

On 5 January 2012 22:09, Michael Rawson  wrote:

>  On 05/01/12 19:21, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> It's official, we have a new mailing list :)
>
> lubuntu-us...@lists.ubuntu.com
>
> If you want to continue to follow the lubuntu discussions, please
> subscribe to this new mailing list (See
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users ).
>
> The lubuntu-desktop mailing should not be used now for new discussions,
> and the team will be close soon.
>
> Thanks for your attention :)
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
>
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>
> Sorry, behind the times and a little confused.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
>
> PS I know, sort of a new topic, but I'm moving.
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[Lubuntu-desktop] [Bug 911905] Re: hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

[Phill Whiteside]

I can confirm it also affect lubuntu

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Title:
  hitting enter on install screen 1 forces language to top selection

Status in “ubiquity” package in Ubuntu:
  Confirmed

Bug description:
  When choosing "install xubuntu" from the cd menu, hitting enter on the
  first screen causes the language to jump to the topmost language.

  Verified using both VirtualBox and Hardware, this can be reproduced in
  both Ubuntu and Xubuntu desktop images.

  TESTCASE:

  1. when cd spins up, hit enter to accept default language
  2. hold right shift in Ubuntu for cd menu, menu is default in Xubuntu
  3. Select "Install Xubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu"
  4. At first screen in Ubiquity, hit enter to select English and continue
  5. Note next screen is not in English.

  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: ubiquity 2.9.10
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-7.13-generic-pae 3.2.0-rc7
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-7-generic-pae i686
  ApportVersion: 1.90-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: i386
  CasperVersion: 1.296
  Date: Wed Jan  4 18:04:56 2012
  LiveMediaBuild: Xubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" - Alpha i386 (20120104)
  ProcEnviron:
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  SourcePackage: ubiquity
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Teams

[Phill Whiteside]

The Wiki / Docs team is now created [1] please feel free to ping me if you
wish to join!

Regards,

Phill.
[1] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:40 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi wxl,
>
> I'll go create a wiki / Doc team on lp. You'll know when it's done as I
> will add you!
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:21 PM, ∅  wrote:
>
>>  One question: would love to add myself but can't. I have no problem
>> editing the Lubuntu wiki, however. What am I missing?
>>
>> wxl/walter
>>
>>
>> On 01/02/2012 02:50 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Following the last meeting, I would like to expose my proposal for the
>> teams to everyone.
>>
>> You can find the summary on this wiki page :
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams
>>
>> Currently, we have already :
>> - The artwork team (Rafael and Alexander)
>> - Testing / QA Team (see Phillw mail on the mailing list)
>> - IRC Team (maybe not yet organised)
>>
>> If you have any comments / suggestions, feel free to answer this mail :)
>> If there is no problem, we can start to work very soon with them.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Teams

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi wxl,

I'll go create a wiki / Doc team on lp. You'll know when it's done as I
will add you!

Regards,

Phill.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:21 PM, ∅  wrote:

>  One question: would love to add myself but can't. I have no problem
> editing the Lubuntu wiki, however. What am I missing?
>
> wxl/walter
>
>
> On 01/02/2012 02:50 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Following the last meeting, I would like to expose my proposal for the
> teams to everyone.
>
> You can find the summary on this wiki page :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams
>
> Currently, we have already :
> - The artwork team (Rafael and Alexander)
> - Testing / QA Team (see Phillw mail on the mailing list)
> - IRC Team (maybe not yet organised)
>
> If you have any comments / suggestions, feel free to answer this mail :)
> If there is no problem, we can start to work very soon with them.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Meeting

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Lance,

great to read your email. Feel to chip in any time, your previous knowledge
and experience will be appreciated. It is hoped the lubuntu-qa mailing list
will be low volume, if you would like to be added, just ask.

Regards,

Phill.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Lance  wrote:

> Regarding, "As the representative from lubuntu to the qa team please go
> easy on me", rest assured I will be ;^)
>
> I also need to be cut a little slack. While I've been a member of Ubuntu
> QA for quite some time I pretty much limit my tasks to iso-testing. I think
> Julien would affirm that I (Erick Brunzell) have helped diagnose a few bugs
> with both the live and alternate images. Sadly I also have an occasional
> brain fart :^/
>
> That said I would like to play a part in the Lubuntu QA team but, and this
> is a huge but, I've never been able to conquer IRC - in spite of this:
>
> http://lubuntu.net/tags/irc
>
> Although that did get me closer than I'd ever been :^)
>
> The problem for me is that I'm both sand blind and sand deaf due to a bout
> of meningo-encephalitis (unknown etiology) around the end of 2001. That
> makes communication really tough.
>
> Basically things (both visual and audible) get garbled very easily so I
> can't respond quickly at all. I must take time to decipher things,
> sometimes it takes longer than others, and certain circumstances even
> result in seizures which are NOT fun.
>
> But I'd very much like to be a part of the Lubuntu QA team. I think I
> could be useful, particularly given my experience with troubleshooting
> ubiquity and d-i problems.
>
> So count me as "on board" but with limited abilities :^)
>
> As always, thanks to everyone for all they do,
>
> Lance
>
>
> --- On *Mon, 1/2/12, Phill Whiteside * wrote:
>
>
> From: Phill Whiteside 
> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Meeting
> To: "lubuntu-desktop" 
> Date: Monday, January 2, 2012, 11:40 PM
>
>
> Hi,
>
> a couple of hours before the 1st lubuntu meeting, I have a QA [1] meeting.
>
> This was sent to the couple of guys who are signed up for lubuntu QA, but
> as I always get asked so many questions about QA / Testing I invite others
> to attend. We only have a one hour slot, followed a couple of hours later
> with our lubuntu meeting.
>
> As the representative from lubuntu to the qa team please go easy on me &
> ensure any topics you wish to discuss on the QA meeting are on the aganda.
>
> I hope that just sitting in on a QA meeting will be educational to those
> who are interested in joining our lubuntu-qa area. My apologies for being
> the chair, it was not planned - I hate being the chair of meetings.
>
> Oh, and just So I do not look like a complete fool, could someone sort out
> [2] this link so it actually points to the meeting area. I have been via
> Edubuntu, kubuntu to try and get it...
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
>
> [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings
>
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> >
> Date: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 4:21 AM
> Subject: Meeting
> To: Phill Whiteside http://mc/compose?to=phi...@ubuntu.com>
> >
>
>
> You are invited to the 1st QA meeting of the New Year.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
>
> Yeah, even better reason to attend, as our usual chair for all of the
> teams will not be there, I have been asked to chair it. when it gets to
> the #lubuntu section, please do simply say that we have followed up on
> last request and created a team?
>
> Thanks,
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Meeting

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

a couple of hours before the 1st lubuntu meeting, I have a QA [1] meeting.

This was sent to the couple of guys who are signed up for lubuntu QA, but
as I always get asked so many questions about QA / Testing I invite others
to attend. We only have a one hour slot, followed a couple of hours later
with our lubuntu meeting.

As the representative from lubuntu to the qa team please go easy on me &
ensure any topics you wish to discuss on the QA meeting are on the aganda.

I hope that just sitting in on a QA meeting will be educational to those
who are interested in joining our lubuntu-qa area. My apologies for being
the chair, it was not planned - I hate being the chair of meetings.

Oh, and just So I do not look like a complete fool, could someone sort out
[2] this link so it actually points to the meeting area. I have been via
Edubuntu, kubuntu to try and get it...

Regards,

Phill.
[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings

[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings

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Subject: Meeting
To: Phill Whiteside 


You are invited to the 1st QA meeting of the New Year.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings

Yeah, even better reason to attend, as our usual chair for all of the
teams will not be there, I have been asked to chair it. when it gets to
the #lubuntu section, please do simply say that we have followed up on
last request and created a team?

Thanks,

Phill.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Happy New Year 2012

[Phill Whiteside]

And a happy new year to our graphics department (hey, at last rafeal has a
team)

Here's to 2012!

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 1:03 PM, David Reimer  wrote:

> Very cool wallpaper* - and a big thankyou to the Lubuntu team via
> Canonical who breathed new life into my old machine! Sort of a
> metaphor for life. :)
>
> Best wishes for 2012!
>
> David.
>
> [* looks like Jared Norris is a pretty special team member: in two
> places at once! Nifty! ;) ]
>
> On 1 January 2012 11:49, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > A quick mail to wish you all, a happy new year :-) 2011 was a very cool
> > year for Lubuntu, let's hope 2012 will be also a happy year :-)
> >
> > Also, for people who are testing Precise, you should have, with today
> > updates, a gift [1] from the Artwork Team, if you kept the default
> > wallpaper ;-)
> >
> > Regards,
> > Julien Lavergne
> >
> > [1] For others, it's here :
> >
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-art/+junk/lubuntu-artwork/download/117/lubuntudefaultwallpa-20111231173218-l0v3jypivw1jw0wl-1/lubuntu-default-wallpaper.png
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Possible bug in Ubiquity.

[Phill Whiteside]

I think, by complete accident what it may be by simply editing the text on
links

I went to alter one of my web-links to point to SII and it came out like
this when parsed by the browser...

Original link = http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-beginners

Standard from my wiki, I removed ubuntu-beginners and put on sii 

 as such  http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=sii

This is what it was reported back to me as.


(01:10:21) phillwuk: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels= (
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-beginners)sii

Once I was aware I pulled it Xpad and edited it and reposted it, it then
worked fine... I think we just need to be aware of the editing of webchat
links!

Regards,

Phill.

On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hi Boss,
>
> (14:39:13) MrChrisDruif: Make a link to
> http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=lubuntu in the screenshots with the
> installer, just like it links to the wiki and launchpad page
> (14:39:41) MrChrisDruif: And the bug is that the quick search is enabled
> again after installation
> (14:40:17) MrChrisDruif: Seeing we "disabled" it, it's a bug.
> (14:40:59) MrChrisDruif: phillw: ^
> (14:42:25) phillw: it must pull in the additional lib function.
>
> I am guessing this needs filing against Ubiquity?
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: My Story in 2011

[Phill Whiteside]

My look back on 2011?

We not only survived an event that would have despatched other teams to
oblivion, we, under the incredible and tenacious attitude of Julien got
through it.

I am not going to fall into the trap of try mentioning all those people who
made 11.10 happen, every person within the lubuntu team and our ubuntu
family has not only given more of themselves, asked a bit of a help, or a
favour from someone during the trek for us to attain full adoption. It got
tough, but Lubuntu 11.10 arrived on specification, on time and within
budget!

12.04 brings new challenges. Lubuntu is ready for them, even over the
'holiday' season our IRC team are in place, the QA / testing team, our
start on IRC / Wiki / Forum interaction teams have been started. As we have
never lost our dev team nor artwork team, it was a case of getting the
"everything else" into teams. Still got to get the translations team fully
back up to speed. As lubuntu is a lean, mean and nimble flavour of the
ubuntu family, we can be nimble.

So, for 2012?

Get on board, the teams are at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved and you can find a list of
who we all are, along with our time zones etc. at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre

Here is to 2012. The team that got us from 9.04 from the very, very alpha
one before I joined at about 9.10, can I say thank you. You did it, it will
always remain as "yeah, I made a difference". Whllst we nagged over things,
we have always had a an agreement.

Thank you to all of Lubuntueers, it matters not when you joined. It matters
that you have. I'd like to sign off with an oft quoted comment, but for me
chatting with devs and then taking the time to explain to me, a wiki / doc
person ..

"We were all n00bs when we were born",


There has been so much happen, for those with an intrest for 12.04 and
beyond, you know who I mean... young people with a vision, older ones who
have been there and seen it all...

It will be an interesting 2004,

And if I finally get the google edu system to not keep firing off every
paragraph to the ML (And my apologies for it)



Phillw














On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Michael Rawson
wrote:

>  On 31/12/11 21:27, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> In few words, I'd like to share my story in 2011 with you all.
> 2011 was A CRAZY YEAR and fill of lots of things that can't be summarized.
> I admit it was full of screws up but TWO GREAT THINGS happened in 2011 that
> changed my history, present and future.
>
> In 2011, I found the real purpose and aim of my life that I shall spend my
> life time ... each year, month, day, minute, second and nano second praying
> and be very much grateful for that. The Steps that I have made in 2011,
> unquestionably, the best step I've ever made, period. My one and only love,
> you have supported me and still do ... you have never let me down and still
> do ... you have never given up on me and still do ... no words and nothing
> will express how much I'm grateful to you. *Happy New Love Year to You*<3
> *THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING IN MY LIFE* :)
>
> In 2011, my interest, activity, understanding and experience in Linux has
> grown up and it became so obvious how much I like Linux and what I'm
> capable to do for it. Before that, I used to like everything and anything.
> Was jumping here and there with no clear aim or purpose. That vanished and
> faded away the moment I did the second great step in 2011 and joined
> Lubuntu Team. I've never done something so right like that. I'm quite sure
> I have finally done the RIGHT step and I shall never regret it.
>
> Long story short, I'm the Happiest and the Luckiest man on earth with
> these two huge achievements and I promise I shall improve that in 2012 :)
>
> I'd like to show my appreciation to each and every member of this amazing
> family ... no doubt Lubuntu is my second family. Thank you and I'm so much
> proud to be with you :)
>
> Special thanks to very special people here: Phill, Julien and Michael, you
> guys are amazing .. THANK YOU for everything :)
>
> May this year be much better for Lubuntu and each one of us ... God bless
> you all and wish you all the best in the world. Happy New Year :)
>
> I have made this little thing ... feel free to share it. Nothing much, I
> made it with Photoshop in few mins because I was in hurry :P
>
> http://i40.tinypic.com/5mdxe.jpg
>
> Oh yes, my 2012 will definitely be special too ;)
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> *amjjawad*
> Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega 
> Thread)
> My Wiki Page  | My 
> Launchpad |
> My Ubuntu Forum Profile 
>
> *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by
> sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It
> Simple and Short*
>
>
>
> 

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] My Story in 2011

[Phill Whiteside]

My look back on 2011?

We not only survived an event that would have despatched other teams to
oblivion, we, under the incredible and tenacious attitude of Julien got
through it.

I am not going to fall into the trap of try mentioning all those people who
made 11.10 happen, every person within the lubuntu team and our ubuntu
family has not only given more of themselves, asked a bit of a help, or a
favour from someone during the trek for us to attain full adoption. It got
tough, but Lubuntu 11.10 arrived on specification, on time and within
budget!

12.04 brings new challenges. Lubuntu is ready for them, even over the
'holiday' season our IRC team are in place, the QA / testing team, our
start on IRC / Wiki / Forum interaction teams have been started. As we have
never lost our dev team nor artwork team, it was a case of getting the
"everything else" into teams. Still got to get the translations team fully
back up to speed. As lubuntu is a lean, mean and nimble flavour of the
ubuntu family, we can be nimble.

So, for 2012?

Get on board, the teams are at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/GettingInvolved and you can find a list of
who we all are, along with our time zones etc. at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre

Here is to 2012. The team that got us from 9.04 from the very, very alpha
one before I joined at about 9.10, can I say thank you. You did it, it will
always remain as "yeah, I made a difference". Whllst we nagged over things,
we have always had a an agreement.

Thank you to all of Lubuntueers, it matters not when you joined. It matters
that you have. I'd like to sign off with an oft quoted comment, but for me
chatting with devs and then taking the time to explain to me, a wiki / doc
person ..

We were all n00bs when we were born, the lubuntu te







On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Michael Rawson
wrote:

>  On 31/12/11 21:27, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> In few words, I'd like to share my story in 2011 with you all.
> 2011 was A CRAZY YEAR and fill of lots of things that can't be summarized.
> I admit it was full of screws up but TWO GREAT THINGS happened in 2011 that
> changed my history, present and future.
>
> In 2011, I found the real purpose and aim of my life that I shall spend my
> life time ... each year, month, day, minute, second and nano second praying
> and be very much grateful for that. The Steps that I have made in 2011,
> unquestionably, the best step I've ever made, period. My one and only love,
> you have supported me and still do ... you have never let me down and still
> do ... you have never given up on me and still do ... no words and nothing
> will express how much I'm grateful to you. *Happy New Love Year to You*<3
> *THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING IN MY LIFE* :)
>
> In 2011, my interest, activity, understanding and experience in Linux has
> grown up and it became so obvious how much I like Linux and what I'm
> capable to do for it. Before that, I used to like everything and anything.
> Was jumping here and there with no clear aim or purpose. That vanished and
> faded away the moment I did the second great step in 2011 and joined
> Lubuntu Team. I've never done something so right like that. I'm quite sure
> I have finally done the RIGHT step and I shall never regret it.
>
> Long story short, I'm the Happiest and the Luckiest man on earth with
> these two huge achievements and I promise I shall improve that in 2012 :)
>
> I'd like to show my appreciation to each and every member of this amazing
> family ... no doubt Lubuntu is my second family. Thank you and I'm so much
> proud to be with you :)
>
> Special thanks to very special people here: Phill, Julien and Michael, you
> guys are amazing .. THANK YOU for everything :)
>
> May this year be much better for Lubuntu and each one of us ... God bless
> you all and wish you all the best in the world. Happy New Year :)
>
> I have made this little thing ... feel free to share it. Nothing much, I
> made it with Photoshop in few mins because I was in hurry :P
>
> http://i40.tinypic.com/5mdxe.jpg
>
> Oh yes, my 2012 will definitely be special too ;)
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> *amjjawad*
> Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega 
> Thread)
> My Wiki Page  | My 
> Launchpad |
> My Ubuntu Forum Profile 
>
> *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by
> sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It
> Simple and Short*
>
>
>
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>  D'awww. 
>
> Seriously, thank YOU AJ, you've been brilliant, really supportive of me,
> as a mentor and friend, hop

[Lubuntu-desktop] Possible bug in Ubiquity.

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Boss,

(14:39:13) MrChrisDruif: Make a link to
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=lubuntu in the screenshots with the
installer, just like it links to the wiki and launchpad page
(14:39:41) MrChrisDruif: And the bug is that the quick search is enabled
again after installation
(14:40:17) MrChrisDruif: Seeing we "disabled" it, it's a bug.
(14:40:59) MrChrisDruif: phillw: ^
(14:42:25) phillw: it must pull in the additional lib function.

I am guessing this needs filing against Ubiquity?

Regards,

Phill.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi boss,

so the information for 11.10 is correct at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu#A11.10 I hope!

If that is correct, then adding the section for 12.04 will be a much easier
task for me :)

Hoping you had a good Christmas,

Phill.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>  This is a quick summarise of the different type of installation,
> up-to-date with 11.10 :
>
> By using desktop ISO : Installation done using Ubiquity + a live session,
> by copying the image of the CD into the system. It's the recommend way for
> testing and installing Lubuntu. Note that using the live session or the
> "Install only" mode will do teh same result, just using less memory.
>
> By using alternate ISO : Installation using debian installer type. No live
> session available. Design to install Lubuntu on everything, especially if
> the Ubiquity or the live session is not supported. You can do the same with
> the command line, by using "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop", on a
> minimum Ubuntu installation (see
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems#Install_an_Ubuntu_command-line_system
> )
>
> Minimal installation : Only on a command line system, just install the
> lubuntu-core by doing "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-core". It should
> install only core components of Lubuntu + the artwork. I would suggest to
> also install lxdm or lightdm to have a graphical login manager.
>
> As you can see, the --no-install-recommends is not necessary since 11.10.
> It can be used for people who wants minimal depends, but you have to be
> carefull, because sometimes some recommended packages are very useful, and
> so not installed if you use --no-install-recommends. I don't think we need
> other type of installation, unless I miss a use case :)
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
>
> Le 12/28/2011 07:28 AM, Phill Whiteside a écrit :
>
> Hi Hùng,
>
>  an apology from me.
>
>  We will get it updated to the alternate ISO. As we got full adoption,
> the builds and releases of Lubuntu having both the approved system and our
> older not fully approved builds.
>
>  I do thank you for bringing this to our attention, we are a small team &
> can miss things.
>
>  @ Julien & PCMan  an older FAQ, can it be up dated, or simply point
> to a more recent area.
> @ A J await until you are better & add it to the thread on the forum.
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Phill.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Hùng Trần wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>  I just checked our Minimal Install guide at
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall.
>>
>>  I don't know why we use "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends
>> lubuntu-desktop" command to install Lubuntu. With "--no-install-recommends"
>> we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update
>> Manager and Preferred Applications.
>>
>>  As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full
>> Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they
>> can't use Ubiquity.
>> Using "--no-install-recommends" could make newbie confused when their
>> desktops almost have nothing.
>>
>>  Regards,
>> TRẦN Duy Hùng
>> http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Jonathan,

well at least it was not an out right NO!

To make this little wish list come true, needs a the most precious resource
of all dev time. Hence my asking the boss if they had time. It really
looks good, can we spare a dev to babysit it?

Regards,

Phill

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011, at 09:00 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
> > what are the chances of getting this into the repos?
>
> It needs packaging first, before that is possible :)
>
> Obkey seems to use pyGTK 2.x, so I think we'd have a GTK2 vs GTK3 issue,
> unless the author is willing to update it to use PyGObject and GTK3?
>
> Other than that, it "just" needs packaging and documentation, as far as
> I can see.  If it were really truly just a matter of packaging, I'd make
> an attempt; but I'm not about to volunteer for the related
> documentation-
> writing and porting-to-PyGObject work.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Integrate obkey (or the like)?

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Boss,

what are the chances of getting this into the repos? Do you have time to
chat with the author to get it through testing? I'll help if you tell me
what I need to do.

Thanks,

Phill.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Tim Bernhard  wrote:

>
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset <
> jpx...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> El 28/12/11 15:43, A. Andjelkovic escribió:
>>
>>  Interesting find, doesn't look very user friendly though (I've only
>>> watched the screencast, looked weird to me).
>>>
>> That vs nothing i prefer that :)
>>
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>>
>
> +1  Maybe create a launcher to make it more user friendly.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki

[Phill Whiteside]

As you know, before we were adopted, we only had 'home spun' disks...

The "Full On" Ubiquity was always to be the official one, but not a great
deal of help for lower spec computers. The argument did go up as to why
they botched a bug by requiring 2 X Ram instead of simply putting your
patch in. You do not know how much this idiotic 'fix' caused, but we were
not adopted at that point and could not log it as a regression. Since then
the bug has remained, it does, Jared, really grate me as it was such a
simple fix to bloody make and get Ubiquity running at a decent speed.

To keep the peace, we were told to accept the alternate iso which does not
require Ubiquity. As the Canonical team are now also trying to build PPC /
Mac-Intel / ARM etc. I do ask what are the more important cases for the
kernel team and also the QA / Testing team to prioritise?

Julien has already made it quite clear that any group that wish support for
a particular chip set Get a testing team together & we will do it. No
decent testing team == no support. Oh, does this sound backwards?... Until
we have people to test, we simply cannot test... So go get your friends.

@ QA - do tell me where I am wrong in terms of bodies to test.

Regards,

Phill.

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Jared Norris  wrote:

> On 28 December 2011 13:46, Hùng Trần  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I just checked our Minimal Install guide
> > at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall.
> >
> > I don't know why we use "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends
> > lubuntu-desktop" command to install Lubuntu. With
> "--no-install-recommends"
> > we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update
> > Manager and Preferred Applications.
> >
> > As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full
> > Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they
> > can't use Ubiquity.
> > Using "--no-install-recommends" could make newbie confused when their
> > desktops almost have nothing.
> >
> > Regards,
> > TRẦN Duy Hùng
> > http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/
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> My understanding is different although I don't know which of us is
> correct. For mine if all you're trying to do is avoid Ubiquity then
> why not just use the alternate installer? To me the minimal
> installation is just that, the bare minimum. From what I understand
> the minimum install is aimed at REALLY low end computers or people not
> wanting to download lots of data over the internet. If you have a
> really low end computer you only want the bare minimum, if you don't
> want to download large ISOs why would you want to download all the
> other stuff anyway?
>
> I'm happy to be proved wrong but I just have a different understanding
> and hoping to clear the issue for both our sakes.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Minimal Install issue in Wiki

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Hùng,

an apology from me.

We will get it updated to the alternate ISO. As we got full adoption, the
builds and releases of Lubuntu having both the approved system and our
older not fully approved builds.

I do thank you for bringing this to our attention, we are a small team &
can miss things.

@ Julien & PCMan  an older FAQ, can it be up dated, or simply point to
a more recent area.
@ A J await until you are better & add it to the thread on the forum.

Regards,

Phill.


On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 3:46 AM, Hùng Trần  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I just checked our Minimal Install guide at
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/MinimalInstall.
>
> I don't know why we use "sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends
> lubuntu-desktop" command to install Lubuntu. With "--no-install-recommends"
> we only have Lubuntu with PCManFM, Leafpad, LXTerminal, Synaptic, Update
> Manager and Preferred Applications.
>
> As I understand, Minimal Install is for people who want to get a full
> Lubuntu desktop by installing via a Ubuntu minimal CD or USB because they
> can't use Ubiquity.
> Using "--no-install-recommends" could make newbie confused when their
> desktops almost have nothing.
>
> Regards,
> TRẦN Duy Hùng
> http://www.nguyentieuhau.com/
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] My story, and a big Thank-you

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Daniel,

thank you so much for taking the time to tell your story. It is from people
like you that make the entire team drive froward. You may see it as one
person who's story will not make a difference... Can I assure you that
people like yourself who wish to reply make all the difference in the
world. It is for people like you that the team of Lubuntu realise that it
all is worth while.

Thank you for your kind words, you will have put a smile on many people who
work hard. Certainly mine.

Regards,

Phill.



On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Daniel Ziegler wrote:

> Hello all,
> I would like to tell my story about my experience with Lubuntu and the
> LXDE Desktop.
>
> I've been using Ubuntu since around middle 2009, on a variety of
> hardware-Dell P4 towers with 9.04 and 9.10, ThinkPad T23 with 10.04,
> custom Phenom II X4 with 10.10 thru 11.10. I loved using Ubuntu, and
> Linux in general over Windows XP, and was amazed with the free network
> tools that you can obtain. However, I had noticed that GNOME 2.x used
> a lot of system resources, around 380 MB of RAM on average. I didn't
> mind so much then. But after 11.04 introduced the new Unity interface,
> it threw me off and I never really adjusted to it. And GNOME 3 hasn't
> helped performance at all, and removed some features. I tried the KDE
> desktop for a while, but never really got used to it, and it seemed to
> use a lot of RAM also.
>
> So I became a bit frustrated, trying to find and adjust to a suitable
> new desktop, and finding all ate my limited RAM up quickly. I began to
> look at solutions such as Puppy Linux, but they didn't offer quite the
> same Ubuntu experience, software, and interface organization. Then I
> heard about Lubuntu this holiday season, after Canonical recognized it
> as an official project.
>
> It looked like my issues were solved, so I quickly downloaded it and
> started to use it. It has turned out to work great for all I need to
> do with a graphical desktop, and all the command line tools work of
> course. Plus the learning curve from GNOME 2.x to LXDE is not very
> steep. It uses about 180 MB of RAM, which is very reasonable. In fact,
> I have been able to install Lubuntu on some older computers that I
> would be unable to run GNOME on.
>
> This has been a great Christmas gift for me, and I would like to just
> say thank you to all of the LXDE developers, Lubuntu developers, and
> of course PCMan, who started the LXDE desktop. I will be recommending
> Lubuntu to everyone looking for a fast GNU/Linux distro, and look
> forward to using it for a long time!
>
> Thank you all again,
>
> Dan
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 3G icon.

[Phill Whiteside]

Thanks boss,

Dutifully reported at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/elementary-icon-theme/+bug/909156

Oh, I hope you and your family have a good Christmas and look forward
to a great new year!

Regards,

Phill.

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> The actual package name is elementary-icon-theme, if you want to report a
> bug.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:41:38 +0200
> Benny Hult  wrote:
>
> > Its against theme. Try another and see if it appears.Phill Whiteside
> > kirjoitti 25.12.2011 19:39:
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > just a quick 'paper-cut'. The good news is that the new kernel finally
> > recognises my 3G usb-dongle. The paper cut is that when it is running,
> > the network icon is blank. It is still there on the bar, as in I can
> > right click on the 'space', but unlike Ethernet or Wireless there is
> > no icon.
> >
> >
> > Not sure what package this is against to file a bug.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Phill.
> >
> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC person

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Jared,

it is for that incorporation that such a team now should leave being just
an entry on lp and become active :)

Regards,

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Jared Norris  wrote:

> On 26 December 2011 05:31, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
> > Hi gang,
> >
> > As noted at the last meeting, it is the desire of Julien to have the
> teams
> > back working as teams. This is ever more important as we grow.
> >
> > A while back, at the behest of unit193 [1] an area was created [2].
> Those of
> > you who are ops will recall my nagging you to join!
> >
> > Well, as they said in the Movie "Blues Brothers"... We're putting the
> band
> > back together.
> >
> > It is my proposal that Unit193 be the Point of Contact for things
> relating
> > to our lubuntu channels to both the Ubuntu IRCCouncil and freenode.
> >
> > Whilst we do joke about having 'bosses' etc. Unit193 is not a 'boss', it
> is
> > for him to ensure that we get a digest each meeting of anything
> 'happening'
> > in the world of UbuntuIRCCouncil and freenode and also raise any issues
> we,
> > as a team, have.
> >
> > If anyone has objections to him taking on that role, now is the time to
> say.
> > A -1 will register your vote against. As we all know this guy, I hope
> there
> > are none.
> >  (Although I'm sure he would appreciate a few +1's)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phill.
> >
> > [1]https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unit193
> > [2]https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-irc-ops
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> Sounds fine, my main concern with IRC is how we are travelling
> integrating into the main ubuntu namespace on freenode. I haven't
> heard anything about that in a long time. I'd +1 if it meant we
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Just came from the hospital ...

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi AJ,

I'm sure I speak on behalf of all in the Lubuntu family in wishing you a
speedy recovery. Anti-biotics take a while to get into the system, be
patient my young friend.

Hope to see you up and about soon. In the meantime, take good care.

Regards,

Phill.

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> Hi Phill,
>
> Hope you are doing well.
> I just came from hospital. I did a CT-Scan and Blood Test. I have
> Bacterial Infection. I still need to do more test after 7 days and keep
> taking some anti-biotic that doesn't seem to work.
>
> Anyway, just to let you know about that plus I think I have to be offline
> for these days. I must get well very soon so I can do what I used to do.
>
> Take care and wish you a Happy New year :)
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Doc/Support Request] Removal of Bluetooth

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Bhaskar,

many thanks for that on disabling Bluetooth. It has been added to the
Workarounds area
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds

@ A J - it will need adding to your mega thread on the forum.

Regards,

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On Mon, Dec 26, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Bhaskar Kandiyal wrote:

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>
> Hiya,
>
> On Monday 26 December 2011 06:52 PM, A. Andjelkovic wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > As I was looking around the web for a way to remove/disable
> > bluetooth completely, as the BIOS of the machine can't do it for
> > some reason (I rather not flash it). I noticed that there were no
> > good documentation regarding this issue, neither on our own
> > wiki[1], help.ubuntu[2], or arch's wiki[3].
> >
> > So I shamefully ask if someone could provide their expertise to
> > document this issue?
> >
> > Ideas on what to cover:
> >
> > *Disabling bluetooth by configuration. *Removing bluetooth related
> > packages. *Disabling the kernel module (for marginal boot time
> > decrease, if any).
> >
> > Regards, Alexander.
> >
> > [1]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation [2]:
> > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bluetooth [3]:
> > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bluetooth
>
> Well, for disabling the kernel module, you can blacklist it to not
> load at boot time.
>
> lsmod | grep bluetooth - This will give you the bluetooth module and the
> other modules that require it. For me the output is:
> bluetooth 179900  23 rfcomm,bnep,btusb
>
> You will have to blacklist these modules in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
> So add the following lines to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist file:
>
> blacklist rfcomm
> blacklist bnep
> blacklist btusb
> blacklist bluetooth
>
> And reboot. After the reboot you can check lsmod | grep bluetooth to
> see if it is loaded or not, if it returns empty then it's not loaded.
>
> As for the bluetooth related packages, I'm not sure maybe someone else
> can point out the relevant packages specific to Lubuntu as I have a
> lot of other packages installed as well, I believe removing bluez and
> bluetooth should do it.
>
> Hope this helps, cheers :)
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC person

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi gang,


I know that I am but a lowly admin, but I challenge ANY one to kidnap /
cajole / interest people in Lubuntu.
I managed to bring into the IRC team another person, Chris [1]

As Unit193 did ask for help, may I introduce Chris [1]

Between them both and Hyperair [3], I hope my job of getting IRC team
together is completed. As we await for the final "vote" As Julien said, it
is up to you as to how the IRC team reports. You have the area [2] , get it
sorted before our next full meeting. We expect to hear about your team
structure.

@unit & chris, Argue it out... but one of you needs to take ownership of
[2] :)


[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif
[2] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-irc-ops
[3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/hyperair



On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 8:19 PM, James Gifford wrote:

> +1, he knows his IRC stuff and is friendly.
>
> Cheers,
> James Gifford
>
> On Dec 25, 2011, at 14:31, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>
> Hi gang,
>
> As noted at the last meeting, it is the desire of Julien to have the teams
> back working as teams. This is ever more important as we grow.
>
> A while back, at the behest of unit193 [1] an area was created [2]. Those
> of you who are ops will recall my nagging you to join!
>
> Well, as they said in the Movie "Blues Brothers"... We're putting the band
> back together.
>
> It is my proposal that Unit193 be the Point of Contact for things relating
> to our lubuntu channels to both the Ubuntu IRCCouncil and freenode.
>
> Whilst we do joke about having 'bosses' etc. Unit193 is not a 'boss', it
> is for him to ensure that we get a digest each meeting of anything
> 'happening' in the world of UbuntuIRCCouncil and freenode and also raise
> any issues we, as a team, have.
>
> If anyone has objections to him taking on that role, now is the time to
> say. A -1 will register your vote against. As we all know this guy, I hope
> there are none.
>  (Although I'm sure he would appreciate a few +1's)
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] QA / Testing.

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

with help from lp


https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa

now exiists...

Can those interested in testing / QA / learning about QA stuff please sign
up on that area. Once we have a few on there you can decide who is to be
the Team Leader.


Regards,

Phill.
On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> Hiyas gang,
>
> Unlike the the IRC [1] area, I have not created a QA/Testing area as of
> yet.
>
> I am up for being our POC ... and to please explain what a POC is again..
> They are our liasion between other teams and our selves.
>
> I will create a QA area if that what you wish for. I am your humble admin
> guy who does his best for Lubuntu.
>
> So, those who wish to register -1, please do so now. (+1's  are allowed :P
> )
>
> If we can get the two of these sorted out for our next meeting, it means
> our devs need not worry. Let us get them back doing the important stuff 1;)
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] QA / Testing.

[Phill Whiteside]

Hiyas gang,

Unlike the the IRC [1] area, I have not created a QA/Testing area as of yet.

I am up for being our POC ... and to please explain what a POC is again..
They are our liasion between other teams and our selves.

I will create a QA area if that what you wish for. I am your humble admin
guy who does his best for Lubuntu.

So, those who wish to register -1, please do so now. (+1's  are allowed :P )

If we can get the two of these sorted out for our next meeting, it means
our devs need not worry. Let us get them back doing the important stuff 1;)

Regards,

Phill.



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[Lubuntu-desktop] IRC person

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi gang,

As noted at the last meeting, it is the desire of Julien to have the teams
back working as teams. This is ever more important as we grow.

A while back, at the behest of unit193 [1] an area was created [2]. Those
of you who are ops will recall my nagging you to join!

Well, as they said in the Movie "Blues Brothers"... We're putting the band
back together.

It is my proposal that Unit193 be the Point of Contact for things relating
to our lubuntu channels to both the Ubuntu IRCCouncil and freenode.

Whilst we do joke about having 'bosses' etc. Unit193 is not a 'boss', it is
for him to ensure that we get a digest each meeting of anything 'happening'
in the world of UbuntuIRCCouncil and freenode and also raise any issues we,
as a team, have.

If anyone has objections to him taking on that role, now is the time to
say. A -1 will register your vote against. As we all know this guy, I hope
there are none.
 (Although I'm sure he would appreciate a few +1's)

Regards,

Phill.

[1]https://wiki.edubuntu.org/Unit193
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[Lubuntu-desktop] 3G icon.

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

just a quick 'paper-cut'. The good news is that the new kernel finally
recognises my 3G usb-dongle. The paper cut is that when it is running, the
network icon is blank. It is still there on the bar, as in I can right
click on the 'space', but unlike Ethernet or Wireless there is no icon.

Not sure what package this is against to file a bug.

Regards,

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Merry Christmas

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

as we are all on different Time Zones...

As I'm out for pre-Christmas drink tomorrow, may I wish all of you an
excellent Christmas to you, your families and your loved ones.

My warmest wishes to you all.

Regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] About Xscreensaver

[Phill Whiteside]

Thanks Julien,

I always forget to disable it and then wonder why my CPU usage on my latest
VM install is driving my CPU so high after about 10 minutes when I am on my
'main' system.

Less is more :)

Regards,

Phill.


On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le 12/23/2011 10:16 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset a écrit :
> > It has been pointed in the past, that for old machines Xcreensaver
> > makes everything sluggish (i can make proof of it because some
> > installations of Lubuntu have crashed because it tries to launch
> > xcreensaver and everything falls apart AND in my pentium 3 @1000mhz
> > the first thing i cut is the screensaver because it slows the whole
> > system)
> > If I remember correctly, drop xcreensaver was a bad idea just for the
> > blocking screen.
> > I've been using a little Ubuntu 11.10 and I'm wondering if they still
> > use a screensaver at all. Maybe they are using something different
> > just to block the screen?
> > If yes, maybe we could use the same thing and cut xcreensaver from
> > Lubuntu.
> >
> They are using compiz to lock the screen, so we can't use the same :)
> 1 thing I will change for 12.04 is to change the behavior by default,
> using only a blank screen instead of the animated one. It should be
> nicer for your type of configuration.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium.

[Phill Whiteside]

hiyas,

there seems to be two ML threads on this. The other seems to have the more
technical details as to how the system got itself confused in the 1st
place.

Can I ask that we use that one.

Thanks

Phill.



On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 5:24 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm not an advanced Linux user but I know there is a difference between
> these two (aptitude and apt-get) and personally, I've stopped using
> aptitude since 10.04.
>
>
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> one for the those who like the subtle differences between apt-get and
>> aptitude.
>>
>> Removing Chromium using the two different commands provides massively
>> different results. This was 1st reported on IRC and the pastebin [1] of the
>> output is now available. If one of the 'guru's could take a look at it,
>> it's way beyond my limited expertise!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill
>>
>> [1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/778561/
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium (really removing chromium-browser)

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

fascinating, if frightening reading. As a devout coward on such brain
surgery I would actually propose moving /home onto its own partition and
then doing a fresh install thus getting a less confused system. I fear that
this exercise could go on ad-infinitum as when you patch one bit, another
then complains... Hooray for seperate /home

Just my low level thoughts on how I would get my personal stuff off, safe,
and then nuke the system.

Regards,

Phill.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:

> It feels mildly amusing that we are doing support for a member of the
> Canonical Support team :)
>
> On 12/22/2011 12:49 PM, Peter Matulis wrote:
>
> >>  (a) Who or what installed ia32-libs, and for what purpose?
>
> > My logs don't go back far enough to say for sure but I think it's
> > because of this puppy:
> >
> > ii  flashplugin-downloader:i386   11.1.102.55ubuntu0.11.10.1
> >  Adobe Flash Player plugin downloader
> > ii  flashplugin-installer 11.1.102.55ubuntu0.11.10.1
> >  Adobe Flash Player plugin installer
> >
> > I know I installed the latter.  I guess the former got sucked in.
>
>
> OK... that sort of makes sense.  On my Lucid amd64 desktop here I have
> flashplugin64-installer, but that may well be from a PPA.
>
> > This was originally Natty. I understand at that time there was no
> > native 64-bit version of the flash plugin available.  I think there
> > was a PPA package.  So now I have a ton of 32-bit packages
> > installed:
>
>
> > dpkg -l | grep :i386 | wc -l
> > 124
>
>
> Wow!  So it seems I was right about the i386 multiarch thing causing the
> machine to become confused.  That many i386 packages installed on an
> amd64 OS is definitely not normal, and IMO needs fixing.  You will
> probably need to go through these and work out which of them you really
> need/want to be i386, and which can (and should) be replaced with their
> amd64 equivalents.
>
> It would be interesting to see which of the list of packages aptitude
> wanted to remove were i386; you might want to focus on getting those
> replaced with amd64 equivalents first, and then tackle the rest of the
> 124 packages.
>
> >>   (e) Lastly (this could generate a lot of output!), what is the output
> >>   from:  aptitude -Wvs remove chromium-browser
>
>
> > aptitude -Wvsy remove chromium-browser > remove_chromium-browser.txt
> > This file is 20 MB.
>
>
> I didn't realize it would be quite *that* much output!  Never mind.
> Just work from the list of 124 i386 packages you generated earlier, and
> see how much you can shrink that list down by removing them and then
> adding their amd64 equivalents.  Boring work, but probably worth it to
> clean up your system.
>
> Overall, I think the cause of this issue is all the i386 packages on
> your machine, and that aptitude is somehow trying to get rid of many of
> them when you ask it to remove chromium-browser.
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium.

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi guys,

one for the those who like the subtle differences between apt-get and
aptitude.

Removing Chromium using the two different commands provides massively
different results. This was 1st reported on IRC and the pastebin [1] of the
output is now available. If one of the 'guru's could take a look at it,
it's way beyond my limited expertise!

Regards,

Phill

[1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/778561/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Wubi on 12.04

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Jeremy,

whilst not the biggest fan of Wubi either, it is a useful tool for a
certain group of people. It certainly gives a better taste of Lubuntu than
trying to run it of a LiveCD. As such, Wubi is an important option for
people to try the ubuntu flavours out on a windows machine. The Wubi people
do a good job of keeping it stable.

regards.

Phill.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Jeremy Bicha  wrote:

> On 21 December 2011 15:13, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
> > Hello Jean-Pierre,
> >
> > I'm one of those who actually avoid Wubi. It could be helpful but the
> > headache afterward is a lot sometimes :)
> >
> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1650699
> >
> > IMHO, one can always try another alternative but that's me and YMMV :)
>
> I'm the same way. Personally, I'd prefer if Wubi wasn't available for
> the main Ubuntu CD as I don't trust it to work as reliably as a normal
> install or even a VM.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Wubi on 12.04

[Phill Whiteside]

hi Jean-Pierre,

I have had a dig around and raised a bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/907524 If someone could pop on there
and click on the "affects me" button, that will auto confirm it.

Regards,

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset  wrote:

> One thing I would like to see in Lubuntu, is the presence of Wubi.
> I've wanted to "show" some friend/familiars/co-workers how Lubuntu rocks
> but the only way i get is by livecd... and they want to try it a little :)
> Wubi is a GREAT option for a lot of people (myself included since i have
> only one hard drive and original windows is installed on it ;)
>
> Is this possible?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LSC problems and where to report

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Hi Steve,

I used https://launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center to report the issue I
had.

Regards,

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Yorvyk wrote:

> Where should one report LSC bugs.  I can't find any reported on Launchpad.
>
> The problems.
> There is a surfeit of information on some apps. eg. Penguin Taipei and
> other Ace-of-Penguin apps as well as others.
> No version number in About.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Wubi on 12.04

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Jean,

it was my understanding that Lubuntu would be added to Wubi following its
full adoption in 11.10. I'll go and do a bit of digging

Regards,

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset  wrote:

> One thing I would like to see in Lubuntu, is the presence of Wubi.
> I've wanted to "show" some friend/familiars/co-workers how Lubuntu rocks
> but the only way i get is by livecd... and they want to try it a little :)
> Wubi is a GREAT option for a lot of people (myself included since i have
> only one hard drive and original windows is installed on it ;)
>
> Is this possible?
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development

[Phill Whiteside]

Already mentioned, but the cooling mats for laptops are very inexpensive.
My laptop was struggling during our unusually hot summer and the usb
powered mat solved the problem.

Regards,

Phill.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Yorvyk wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:27:21 +0400
> amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>
> >
> > I called HP and we managed to fix the problem on DV6 with a BIOS Update.
> As
> > for DV5 one, they couldn't help because it has Linux (Ubuntu 10.04) and I
> > have no clue how to update the BIOS while on Linux.
> >
> Depending on the manafacturer therare a variety of ways of updating the
> BIOS.
>
> Some provide a bootable ISO which uses FreeDOS or you may be able to
> concoct your own using FreeDOS.   http://www.freedos.org/
>
> I've had some success with FlashROM which is available in the repos.
> http://flashrom.org/
>
> Another option is to temporary install Windows if you have a copy that
> came with the machine, especially if the manufacturer's site has an
> automated tool for telling you which updates are required.  Until recently
> I've been using a '60 day' evaluation copy of WinXP for this purpose if the
> above doesn't work.  Sadly a lot of recent machines require Vista or Win 7
> for this sort of tool.
>
> Even if the BIOS upgrade doesn't mention your problem it may well be worth
> updating as manufacturers don't always tell you everything the BIOS update
> resolves.  It may also be useful to look at firmware updates for the hard
> drive as well.
>
> The other thing to look at is cleaning the vents, heat-sink and fan to
> ensure good airflow.
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Docs team

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Lubunteers,

as always, an area that people just expect 'to happen', I noted that on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Tasks#Current_Tasks_For_Anyone
Lubuntu
is not even mentioned. I know that we have had input into various areas in
the past... Is there any one willing to take this one on as P.O.C. (Point
Of Contact)? As said, I'll hold P.O.C. for the QA side, but we really do
need someone to step forward for this one.

Thanks,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Micheal,

Bug dutifully filed.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/905953

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Michael Rawson
wrote:

> Weird. That should probably be a /, as in src/main.py
>
> Would you mind filing a bug report?
>
> On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:13:31 +
> Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>
> > Hi Micheal,
> >
> > phillw@piglet:~$ lubuntu-software-center
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "/usr/local/bin/lubuntu-software-center", line 31, in 
> > import src.main
> > ImportError: No module named src.main
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Phill.
> >
> > On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Michael Rawson
> > wrote:
> >
> > >  On 18/12/11 13:00, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Stephen,
> > >
> > >  as usual, I'm no doubt doing something wrong!
> > >
> > >  1) 1st attempt at ./configure complained I had an out dated intltool,
> so
> > > I grabbed the current one from Synaptics. This then worked.
> > > 2) 1st attemp at make install failed, no permissions (sudo !! sorted
> that
> > > one out).
> > >
> > >  The icon is in the System Tools area where I expected it to be, but
> > > double clicking on it does nothing.
> > >
> > >  You can't beat having an idiot to test stuff with :)
> > >
> > >  I've dumped the terminal output to http://pastebin.com/dWmEyNFP in
> case
> > > it is of help to you.
> > >
> > >  Regards,
> > >
> > >  Phill.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM, eco.st...@fastwebnet.it <
> > > eco.st...@fastwebnet.it> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ladies and Gentlemen, Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2 is out!
> > >> this is the first stable version, you can grab the tarball at
> http://lau
> > >> nchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
> > >> Now we need your tests, you comments and your hints.
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Stephen Smally
> > >>
> > >> P.S. the PPA is always updated, but is recommended only for test.
> > >>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2

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Hi Micheal,

phillw@piglet:~$ lubuntu-software-center
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/lubuntu-software-center", line 31, in 
import src.main
ImportError: No module named src.main

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Michael Rawson
wrote:

>  On 18/12/11 13:00, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
>  as usual, I'm no doubt doing something wrong!
>
>  1) 1st attempt at ./configure complained I had an out dated intltool, so
> I grabbed the current one from Synaptics. This then worked.
> 2) 1st attemp at make install failed, no permissions (sudo !! sorted that
> one out).
>
>  The icon is in the System Tools area where I expected it to be, but
> double clicking on it does nothing.
>
>  You can't beat having an idiot to test stuff with :)
>
>  I've dumped the terminal output to http://pastebin.com/dWmEyNFP in case
> it is of help to you.
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Phill.
>
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM, eco.st...@fastwebnet.it <
> eco.st...@fastwebnet.it> wrote:
>
>> Ladies and Gentlemen, Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2 is out!
>> this is the first stable version, you can grab the tarball at http://lau
>> nchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
>> Now we need your tests, you comments and your hints.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Stephen Smally
>>
>> P.S. the PPA is always updated, but is recommended only for test.
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Stephen,

as usual, I'm no doubt doing something wrong!

1) 1st attempt at ./configure complained I had an out dated intltool, so I
grabbed the current one from Synaptics. This then worked.
2) 1st attemp at make install failed, no permissions (sudo !! sorted that
one out).

The icon is in the System Tools area where I expected it to be, but double
clicking on it does nothing.

You can't beat having an idiot to test stuff with :)

I've dumped the terminal output to http://pastebin.com/dWmEyNFP in case it
is of help to you.

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM, eco.st...@fastwebnet.it <
eco.st...@fastwebnet.it> wrote:

> Ladies and Gentlemen, Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2 is out!
> this is the first stable version, you can grab the tarball at http://lau
> nchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
> Now we need your tests, you comments and your hints.
>
> Regards
>
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>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Me again :)

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi A. J.

I've had a quick chat with a couple of people regarding advertising, the
advice is to make yourself known via
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAdvertsStart there and see how things
progress.

Regards,

Phill.



On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 9:43 PM, Yorvyk wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:20:10 +0400
> amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
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> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Long story short:
> >
> > 1- I'm thinking about a Marketing Team which will be dedicated to Lubuntu
> > Marketing and its members will focus ONLY on Marketing. As always, I'm
> > willing to contribute and join but I just thought to propose the idea
> here
> > and SO SORRY if this is not the right place to do that :)
> >
> Join the Ubuntu marketing team and adapt their stuff and use the skills
> that have been developed there.  Having joined the Ubuntu family I see no
> point in isolating ourselves from it.
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Network Manager

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

now you can all have a good laugh :)  I've finally upggraded from 9.10
Ubuntu to 11.10 Lubuntu, the problem is that my network monitor icon has
vanished from my bar whilst I was re-organising things and I do not see it
any where on the the list of things that should be there?

As I use a 3G device at times, getting it back is quite important!

now, when you've all stopped laughing, can you give me how to get the
little critter back!

Regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Users' Threads - Help Needed

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi ammjjawad,

can I simply repeat what Julien says. As a tester for *buntu +1 series, we
have a forum area at http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=412 It
clearly states at the top..

*Ubuntu +1 (Precise Pangolin)*
This forum is for the discussion of the development of the next version of
Ubuntu (Precise Pangolin). Precise is in development and will be released
in April 2012. Please note: Ubuntu Developers do not usually read the
forums, to report a problem found in Precise please report the bug in
Launchpad .

The important part being that

*Please note: Ubuntu Developers do not usually read the forums*
*
*
bugs should be reported via LaunchPad, if some one is unsure, then they
should ask on the mailing list. These two methods of contact are read by
the Developers. This applies to both +1, current and previous releases.

Regards,

Phill.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le 12/13/2011 09:15 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :
> > Most of users, including me, start their searching for a solution or
> > seeking for support journey from the  forums, of course after doing
> > some Google Search (which in most cases direct them to one of these
> > forums). IMHO, reporting a problem on Launchpad should be done if
> > there is NO Real Solution/Fix to a particular issue OR it's an obvious
> > bug (but again, how can we tell whether it's a bug or not?).
> > For a small (BUT GREAT) team like us (Lubuntu), reporting issues on
> > Launchpad directly without checking the forum will add extra work to
> > the developer and above all, on forums, you probably could find a
> > solution easier and faster. Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I think.
> Sometimes, the solution you provide may hide a real bug. I'm ok than
> some issues doesn't have to be reported on launchpad. But it's important
> to use launchpad, developers look at launchpad, not the forum.
> And it's possible that a solution provided can be included directly in
> Lubuntu, to be available for everyone :)
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

[Phill Whiteside]

Indeed,

the 1st time you zsync on an already installed ISO it goes and grabs the
entire darn thing again! Better, as advised, to use zsync to grab it in the
first instance.

Regards,

Phill.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:04 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:

> Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion.
> I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501&postcount=18
> I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing
> from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync?
>
> Hope it's clear now :)
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
>> amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
>> >
>> > Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to
>> download
>> > the daily build iso and install it rather than using "zsync". Does it
>> stand
>> > true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes,
>> how
>> > often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
>> > daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do
>> much
>> > except waiting - any other website will be slow.
>> >
>> Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already
>> have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily
>> whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Reminder : IRC meeting tomorrow 20h UTC + Agenda

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Julien,

as always, the QA meeting is just before the Lubuntu one. Is there anything
for the QA team pertaining to Lubuntu that you wish me to raise?

On the plus side, I finally updated my 9.10 system to 11.04 (Lubuntu, of
course) and have now got access to the Virtual Machines again for testing.
Hopefully I can get back involved on testing stuff!

Regards,

Phill.

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> Hi,
>
> Just a reminder, there is a IRC meeting tomorrow, be sure to add the
> items you want to discuss to the agenda :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/IRC%20Meetings/Agenda
>
> Regards,
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Starting once more

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Lubunteers,

As mentioned, there is quite a lot of activity on how QA will be running,
both for this release and future ones. As and when any of the team have
questions, please feel to ask on the QA mailing list
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-QA or just give me kick in
the ribs & I will ensure they are discussed in the Lubuntu section of the
weekly QA meetings.

Below is a quick over view of where they are heading. I know it is bit back
to front, as I will only have answers to questions in the meetings 2 hours
before the Lubuntu meeting, but nothing is perfect :) I can, however, fire
questions via the Mailing List as they arise if you prefer me to be point
of contact between the two teams.

Regards,

Phill.

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Date: Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Starting once more
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Hi Javier,

thanks for your email. Nice to see other fellow Spanish collaborator in
the list (apart from the ones I already knew :)!

Regarding the blueprints, we normally put them together before UDS and
discuss them there. For those of you who weren't there, this is the
overall strategy we presented for the coming two years. It is only very
clear for the next six months and we will be defining together the
coming cycles as we get closer and see what we have achieved:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/AutomatedTesting/Strategy

As per the definition of test case, that is my mistake, I should have
pointed to the exact same public page in the wiki (I will change that in
the blueprint):
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TestCase

As you can see the blueprints more or less match what is explained in
the strategy, some of them have tasks that we also need to do due to the
lab requiring updates, etc. that are not necessarily there.

This cycle is all about enabling the developers and engineering teams do
their job better. Next one will be about adding more test cases
(increasing the coverage) to our test suites.

As I said, I will try to put a list of tasks together for Monday, where
people can choose the ones they like from the ones we have available and
are doing in those blueprints. Things keep coming up and we keep adding
more things to the blueprints as we go along. One thing you could do is
express your interest in one blueprint or another and we can match tasks
with people's levels of expertise or get the people with less experience
to collaborate with the more experienced ones.

We can also look into the minimal CDs testing if you want, but at the
moment we are going to focus on getting right the ISOs we have
available, before expanding into new things.

More info to come soon,
Gema

On 01/12/11 07:45, Javier Domingo wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> First of all, I want to say that I have been reading all the mails you
> have regularly sent, and I want to say I'm glad that there are going to
> happen big changes.
>
> Refering to those changes, thought I have not been quite active this
> year, I am particularly interested on minimal CD installations. I think
> they are the best way to install OS for people that already knows they
> want it, and they don't want to install it and then update it [1]. In
> this way, I would like to see those Minimal CDs into the iso tracker. I
> don't know actually why they are not there.
>
> What involves the test-case definition blueprint, I am not allowed to
> see the canonical wiki (don't know if this is actually pretended). And
> it would be nice an explanation of what blueprints, etc. are. I actually
> pretend to do more than just testing, I have no idea of how are things
> organized, which teams there are, etc.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Javier Domingo
>
>
> [1] I would like to say that I random times experienced problems when
> installing from minimal CDs. Those times were when I used my spain's (my
> country) archive copy. I don't know if there might not be any
> difference, but after selecting the archive, it gets stuck randomly.I
> would like to have more facilities at install time to know what is
> happening (any debug info or sth). Would be perfect a debugging flag at
> boot time or something.
>
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [lubuntu newsletter] lubuntu 10.10 released

[Phill Whiteside]

Mario,

well if the cron job has been unblocked, it looks good for the future :)

Regards,

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On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Mario Behling  wrote:

> Seems like there was a cron job blocked or so, which got executed
> after I updated the website. That's bad. Well, I guess we will survive
> this error ;-{
>
> Mario
>
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 2:21 AM, Yorvyk 
> wrote:
> > On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:16:11 -0300
> > Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset  wrote:
> >
> >> El 30/11/11 13:15, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) escribió:
> >> > WUT?
> >> Exactly my reaction!!
> >> >
> > LOL WTF :D
> >
> > By next May we should be on 11.04!
> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] web mockup #1

[Phill Whiteside]

As always Rafael, your artwork is brilliant... Fantastic clean look :)

Regards,

Phill.

2011/11/25 Lalatendu Mohanty 

>  On Friday 25 November 2011 06:24 PM, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) wrote:
>
> Here it os, the first mockup, using the Ubuntu drupal theme, but blue
> "tuned". Of course, texts, images and links are fake. Just for imagining
> how it would look. I'll make another one without any Canonical influence,
> some kind KDE did, and more user friendly, direct to people, and less
> serious.
>
>  http://i.imgur.com/6mfma.png
>
>  But the goals of these webs (now mockups) will be:
>
>- very visible download button
> - easy navigation menu
>- front exposure of the product (a PC with Lubuntu installed and
>working)
> - a few sub-articles (in this case product features)
> - the #2 article should be the last blog post
> - the #3 article should be the last forum post (and no more than 3)
> What do you think? ...working on the #2!
>
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] archived iso images

[Phill Whiteside]

Sorry for the group email,

iWeb, where I used to host our ISO images got sold, the new people decided
they did not want the iso's on there and deleted them all.

They have 5 days to restore them, and then we have 2 days after that to
retrieve any that we want to keep (such as spares of the 10.04.1 etc).

I've also got to got backup all other areas as I am not happy with them
going against their promise. As we are now adopted, it matters little. it
was the principal that mattered. So, if there are any iso's during
development that any would like to keep a hold of, now is a good time to
shout :)

I could really do without this... they reckoned that the iso's "may contain
personal information"  biggest cop out I've ever heard of a new company
not wanting us to use disk space. Well, they have lost 2 X $7 / month for
hosting as I have only used them as a temp area for two systems. To say
that I am less than pleased would be not how I feel.

So, can you let us know which, if any, ISO's you'd like pulling off. For
me, I have insisted that they restore every single alpha and beta along
with our RC's. that should could keep those idiots busy for a while :D

I will update when I have gotten the new server area up and running. I am
getting a temporary one like the 2G one at http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ until
next March when theSII / wintermute needs a bit of beast, when it will go
to the 24G one. Yeah, this was supposed to be a gradual change. both
systems will be running http://www.scientificlinux.org/ so I can run
virtual machines and storage for not just Lubuntu, but for all the other
people and teams I try to help on.

Regards,

Phill.
P.S. Thankfully, having your whole bottom set of teeth redrilled, with
implants is a once in life time experience... But I do not need glue to
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

[Phill Whiteside]

And while we examine the fluff in our belly buttons.

Can I ask once again that instead of grieving over non-pae chipsets that we
instead allow our meager resources to keep 10.04 alive? This removes the
issue of non-pae completely and just needs a simple edit to the wiki about
the dropping of previous chipsets? As 10.04 was based on a LTS kernel for
servers it has a life span of 5 years. We can then re address the problem
in 2015 :)
Having said that, some people are quite happy with 8.04 and see no need to
upgrade - If it isn't broken don't fix it.

Regards,

Phill.


On 19 November 2011 10:02, Michael Rawson  wrote:

> Question-probably naive, but anyway- why don't we keep an 'old kernel'
> package for those with older CPUs?
>
> I don't see that it would need maintenance-that's just what it is-dead
> weight for those who need really old machnes to work.
>
> Tell me if I'm wrong. But I vote to ditch PAE with th default kernel.
> Maybe have two kernels in the defult iso and some hardware detection in the
> installer to install the right kernel? (IDK if that's possible)
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:15:52 -0800
> Jonathan Marsden  wrote:
>
> > On 11/18/2011 11:50 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote:
> >
> > > Last year they dropped support for a lot of machines, now they will
> > > drop for a lot more?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "A lot"?  How did you determine this, and can you let us know the
> > numeric upper and lower bounds of "a lot" in the second phrase of this
> > description? :)
> >
> > Jonathan
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

[Phill Whiteside]

Hiyas JM,

So there is no need to support the dropping of chip sets at 10.04, and none
of at the next release?

If  Lubuntu cannot support old hardware, as julien has argued & pleaded
about

* What is the point of Lubuntu? *

Have a think of that question. It is one I have been asked many times, and
is it exactly things like this that let me say me say "*This is the point*
"...

regards,

Phill.





On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:10 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:

> On Friday, November 18, 2011 7:43 PM, "Matthew Byers"
>  wrote:
>
> > Yes it will affect Pentium II.
>
> Evidence, please?  That is not what the original email said at all.  It
> is also not what all the info I have on which CPUs can do PAE says.
>
> As far as I know, Pentium Pro and Pentium II CPUs all can do PAE, except
> for some 400MHz Pentium M mobile CPUs.
>
> As I understand the email, and based on by fading memory of which CPUs
> do PAE, requiring PAE will only exclude Pentium I, a few 400MHz Pentium
> M, really old AMD chips, and the "less known" alternatives such as the
> Geode and the VIA C3.
>
> All normal Pentium II processors should handle PAE just fine.  It looks
> like wikipedia agrees with this (not that it is always 100% accurate,
> but still, it's an easy to find online source).
>
> Do you have info (or real world experience) that indicates otherwise?
>
> *If* this proposed change makes it impractical to run on a Pentium II,
> we need to stand up and be counted.  If (as I suspect) it only prevents
> use on Pentium I, really old AMD, VIA C3 and Geode, then ... that's a
> much smaller population of still-working computers, and I suggest we
> let it slide.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in Precise Pangolin

[Phill Whiteside]

I think this harks back to how long we will support 10.04 for, we barely
have enough people to backport to that - asking for a 2nd set of
backporting may well be beyond the small number of devs we have. For me,
with dropping of chipsets after 10.04, maybe we could concentrate on
keeping 10.04 alive? If it were actually an LTS they could expect support
until 2015, the kernel should be updated until then, but someone like
Jmarsden would have to agree to issue periodic updates. JMarsden did issue
a 10.04.1 release but there was little reply in terms of getting it tested.
As to hosting any iso's, I remain committed to hosting the 'older' iso's
for Lubuntu that were pre-adoption by Canonical stage on my server area.

Regards,

Phill.

On 18 November 2011 17:25, PCMan  wrote:

> Is it possible to keep an unofficial kernel for old abandoned cpus in
> lubuntu ppa, if there are people willing to maintain it?
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:18 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>
>> No, it means that the CPus need to have support for PAE, it's independent
>> of the memory.
>> Also, the range of hardware affected is not so clear, see the thread on
>> ubuntu-devel. I already answered that depending of the list of hardware
>> affected, it could be a big support drop for Lubuntu.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 16:44:20 +
>> Michael Rawson  wrote:
>>
>> > If I understand right, this will only affect those on said machines IF
>> they have ~4GB RAM. Which is unlikely, considering they have Pentium IIs.
>> >
>> > But I agree, we should keep the old kernels for a bit longer. But then
>> we throw a dilemma, where we don't get new kernels. Unless you want a
>> kernel developer for Lubuntu.
>> >
>> > On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:39:02 +0100
>> > 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna)  wrote:
>> >
>> > > But there're Lubuntu users on Pentium II and similar machines. In fact
>> > > they're happy an OS can handle those "trashy" computers and make them
>> > > useable.
>> > >
>> > > Will this affect those users?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >    
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2011/11/18 Julien Lavergne 
>> > >
>> > > > I forgot to forward this mail from ubuntu-devel, it may have an
>> impact on
>> > > > Lubuntu since we shared the same kernel.
>> > > >
>> > > > Regards,
>> > > > Julien Lavergne
>> > > >
>> > > > Begin forwarded message:
>> > > >
>> > > > Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:43:28 -0700
>> > > > From: Tim Gardner 
>> > > > To: Ubuntu Kernel Team ,
>> > > > ubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com
>> > > > Subject: Dropping i386 non-PAE as a supported kernel flavour in
>> Precise
>> > > > Pangolin
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Per discussion at UDS the kernel team is proposing to drop the
>> non-PAE
>> > > > i386 flavour. The upgrade path for non-PAE users will be the PAE
>> kernel.
>> > > > Those CPUs that do not have i686 and PAE support will be orphaned.
>> To
>> > > > the best of my knowledge, these include Intel CPUs prior to Pentium
>> II,
>> > > > 400Mhz Pentium M, VIA C3, and Geode LX. As far as I know, there are
>> no
>> > > > laptop or desktop class CPUs being produced that do not meet these
>> > > > minimum requirements.
>> > > >
>> > > > Before I do something that is difficult to revert, I would like to
>> hear
>> > > > from the development community why we should continue to maintain a
>> > > > kernel flavour that is (in my opinion) getting increasingly low
>> > > > utilization. It is my feeling that an extremely high percentage of
>> users
>> > > > of the non-PAE kernel have a CPU that is PAE capable.
>> > > >
>> > > > If there is sufficient community demand (and support), I would be
>> > > > willing to sponsor the first non-PAE kernel upload to Universe.
>> > > >
>> > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Specs/PreciseKernelConfigReview
>> > > >
>> > > > We'll be conducting a similar survey for powerpc.
>> > > >
>> > > > rtg
>> > > >
>> > > > P.S. For those of you that are totally confused by this email, PAE
>> > > > (Physical Address Extension) was an addition to 32 bit x86 CPUs that
>> > > > allowed them to address more then 4GB physical memory.
>> > > >
>> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
>> > > > --
>> > > > Tim Gardner tim.gard...@canonical.com
>> > > >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Weekly meetings - Finding the right time

[Phill Whiteside]

8 PM GMT is fine for me also.

Regards,

Phill.

On 15 November 2011 20:03, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:

> Hello Chris,
>
> 12AM is great for me as I'm a Batman and don't really sleep at that time
> unless I'm forced to :)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:23 PM, Chris  wrote:
>
>> Aloha Ali,
>>
>> Seeing the Fridge [1] or better put it's calender [2] already has it's 7
>> PM UTC slot filled did Julian suggest to take the 8 PM UTC (or GMT) slot.
>> That would make it 12AM for you Ali.
>> By the way, my vote is also for wednesday.
>>
>> With metta, Chris
>>
>> [1] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/
>> [2] http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars/fridge/
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 15:20, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:
>>
>>>  I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC,
 starting on the 23th.

>>>
>>> If that's 7:00pm GMT time, it means it's 11:00pm my time. My time is +4
>>> GMT. If that's the case, I'm ok with that. I don't care about the day, all
>>> are the same to me, just the time what is important.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>>>
 Hi,

 One thing I would like to organize for this cycle, is a weekly meeting
 on IRC, to discuss topics more easily and to take decisions when it's
 needed.

 I think we have enough topics to start on a weekly base, but we can do
 it less often in the future, if it's not necessary.

 Finding a time for this is ... not very easy :) I don't want to do it
 during the week-end, to be all able to have a week-end far from IT and
 Internet connection :)

 I also don't think we should change the time for every meetings,
 because it's the best solution to forget the meeting. But, we can change it
 after some time (like 3 months).

 I propose to begin with this schedule : Wednesday, 7:00 PM UTC,
 starting on the 23th.

 It'll not be necessary to attempt all the meetings. You can attempt
 when you have subjects to discuss, but you can also adding a subject to the
 schedule, so people can discuss it even if you can't be online at this 
 time.

 Let me know what you think about this.

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Amjjawad,

for major stuff on lubuntu.net you need to speak to Mario. I have seen
chats, you need to assure our team that you are in for lubuntu for the long
term and not just some college / university project. Whilst this may seem
harsh, so many have done it over the years & teams / threads / projects
have all gotten the pain of projects being abandoned. Please do not think
we are being negative, just that like all F/OSS projects we have had people
come and go.

May I, on a personal note, also warn you against something that my mentor
warned me upon. Burnout, whereby you work too many hours that cannot be
sustained (which you have already pretty much said you have done), and your
not wishing to have a mentor (experienced person) help you. If you run
yourself to death, or just decide to leave lubuntu the Lubuntu team will
have to pick up the pieces. Please, my young friend, take your time - we
have seen burn out before.

Regards,

Phill.

On 12 November 2011 20:34, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:

> Thanks A. Andjelkovic :)
>
> We'll start working hopefully soon and get back to you all :)
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 11:35 PM, A. Andjelkovic wrote:
>
> *Go for it guys :). If you bring up good ideas, together with mockups,
>> your ideas will most likely go through. We all work together and
>> constructive criticism is important.*
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Martin Olesen 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi everybody.
>> >
>> > Thanks for letting me join the group. I am Mörgæs from Ubuntuforums,
>> and I
>> > have been a full-time Buntu user since 5.10. I don't expect people to
>> > understand Icelandic, so let me first of all reveal that the name means
>> > "penguin" - though we don't have them around here.
>> >
>> > As you may have seen already, I have some ideas for a new web site:
>> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945&postcount=205
>> > I shall save you from the full explanation. You will see a demo later,
>> as I
>> > believe in "show it, don't tell it". Long story short: I am focusing on
>> > receiving the beginner having Windows background and the intermediate
>> user
>> > having Ubuntu (but not Lubuntu) background. Also, the site should have a
>> > clear hierarchy indicating what is important to the user right here,
>> right
>> > now, and what can be left for later.
>> > For now I just ask for an indication like "yes, we would like to
>> experiment
>> > and consider a new wording on the web side". If on the other hand the
>> > general opinion is that the site can not be improved, there is no point
>> in
>> > going further.
>> > I expect to be working together with Amjjawad. Our scope is text and
>> layout,
>> > and later on we would be happy to work with someone capable of graphics
>> and
>> > illustrations.
>> > So, what do you say?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Mörgæs
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PLEASE READ IT

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi amjjawad,

As you will be aware, hosting for lubuntu,net has only just been gotten
again. The site was exceeding the bandwidth allowance. As has been
mentioned previously, please make some mock ups so that the site controller
can look into how they could be implemented.

Regards,

Phill.

On 12 November 2011 17:31, amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:

> Thank you for your reply, Yorvuk :)
>
> I'm very much aware of what you wrote but what we all need to be aware is
> one simple fact. Lubuntu is growing bigger and if we won't be as fast as
> its growth, well, I'm afraid we won't be able to catch up with that.
>
> Having the said, and because I do believe in ACTIONS more than words, I'd
> like to inform everyone that Myself and Martin (mörgæs) are willing to help
> each other and start a small Marketing Team which will take care first of
> all about our website and that will be the very first beginning and that is
> exactly what Lubuntu Needs (what the website needs).
>
> I need to hear back from you ... what do you think? since everyone busy
> with real life, Me and Martin are willing to help with the Website.
>
> Thank you!
>
> P.S.
> Martin has already joined the team so:
>
> Hello and Welcome Martin to a *NEW WORLD* where *Wings* and *Speed of
> Light* are your basic tools to explore this astonishing, exceptional,
> unbelievable, remarkable and stunning master piece we do call *L*ubuntu
>
>
>
> I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some
>> mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that
>> overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net.  Waiting for other
>> people will never achieve anything, nor will threats.  The lubuntu team is
>> very small and very busy, often with real life.  I haven't been able to put
>> the amount of work into the last couple of releases that I would of liked
>> due to real life.
>>
>
> On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Yorvyk wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:30:02 +0400
>> amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > Long story short, PLEASE read this and reply:
>> >
>> > http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11449945&postcount=205
>> >
>> > This guy (mörgæs ) has
>> offered
>> > his help 2 months ago. I have already talked to someone in our team
>> about
>> > that but he did not show any interest. His reply was unhelpful.
>> >
>> > Now, I'm asking this publicly. To whoever in charge of our website,
>> PLEASE
>> > do listen to others and it's time to do some real work on our website.
>> > www.lubuntu.net is VERY important. With such growth of this amazing OS,
>> > it's a MUST have thing. I'm not sure how you think or what is your plans
>> > but if truth to be told, I'm also one of those who offered some help to
>> > update the website but the reply was so unhelpful at all.
>> >
>> > This is a *TEAM WORK* and if one can't do that, let the team do it.
>> >
>> > So sorry to write in such way, I'm sorry if this sound rude but I do
>> love
>> > Lubuntu (it's not a secret anymore) and it's not only me, many others do
>> > that as well. Why do you block them? why not to listen to them? what
>> will
>> > happen if you do what others are suggesting?
>> >
>> > Now, I'm not going to reply
>> > mörgæsbut one of the team
>> > who is in charge of our website must reply him IMHO.
>> >
>> > Thank you so much!
>> >
>> > ALL HAIL LUBUNTU!
>> >
>> > P.S.
>> > I'll inform him (mörgæs )
>> that
>> > I sent his post and waiting for a reply.
>> >
>> I would suggest, that if mörgæs really wants to help, he produces some
>> mock-ups of the site and/or points us to some examples of his work that
>> overcome the percieved problems with lubuntu.net.  Waiting for other
>> people will never achieve anything, nor will threats.  The lubuntu team is
>> very small and very busy, often with real life.  I haven't been able to put
>> the amount of work into the last couple of releases that I would of liked
>> due to real life.
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu - One Stop Thread

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi lubunteers,

The most important thing is that each part is up to date. The more we
diverge into different areas, the more impossible this becomes.

I put up to people that our official wiki area should be 1st source and all
other areas should point to it.

We have already had this discussion wıth lubuntu.net pointıng to out of
date stuff and ıt was corrected. There is not a snow flake in hells chance
for our small team to keep every area up to date.

My proposal was, is and continues to be that we PRIMARILY use our wiki area
that includes 'How To' and 'Work Arounds' that are pointed to as. From all
the other areas, a link that is updated is silly. People bookmark them. As
renewed 'How Tos' / Work arounds are placed onto the forum etc. they must
be then put onto the wiki area so that we are 'all singing off the same
hymn sheet' Ali is excentlally placed to both look after the forum thread &
has proven to be good at wiki - So I vote for hım.

Having different sets of instructions / advice for people is simply going
to lead to the chaos that we see generally when someone 'googles' a problem.

I look forward to the replies, and, yes - we need them as to how we are
going to have to decide on where we keep the MASTER set of instructions.

Regards,

Phıll.



On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Jared Norris  wrote:

> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:16 AM, James Gifford 
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Not to sound like I'm pushing or anything, but in regards to that 4.2K
> >> posts thread, most of them useless but some of them useful, this is
> >> where the Ask Ubuntu format is good, since the accepted answer (in
> >> otherwords, the one that is most helpful) will *always* be on top.
> >>
> >> Just a thought, but the mythbuntu team is migrating from the forums to
> >> AU over the next several weeks, no reason why Lubuntu couldn't migrate
> >> over as well.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> James Gifford
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> My personal preference is to use each segment to the best of it's
> ability. The help.u.c/community wiki is useful for howto guides useful
> to large audiences, the forums are good for one on one assistance, the
> mailing list usually gets help reasonably quickly, IRC is instant and
> AU has it's own little place.
>
> We have so many ways to contribute information to the general public,
> I think as long as we choose the best option for the type of
> information we're trying to request or present then it doesn't really
> matter *where* it is.
>
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>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPC

[Phill Whiteside]

As he is at UDS, it may be a couple of days before he can get a definative
answer. As with all community releases, I am happy to host them on my
server system. We just need the 'OK'.

Regards,

Phillw

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 6:21 AM, ∅  wrote:

>  Before I invest much more time in it, what say you, Julien?
>
>
> On 11/1/11 8:18 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
> I have no problems mentioning it as a community build, but Julien ıs
> better placed to check if it would cause problems on our 'Get Lubuntu' page.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phillw
>
>
>
>  On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:44 PM,  wrote:
>
>> i know we've talked briefly about deferring any ppc builds but i was
>> hoping (if not for any other reason, but to help further development of the
>> unofficial and unsupported port) to post up on the wiki my methodology to
>> install and get current using the most current ppc build at
>> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111011/.
>>
>> all in favor, say aye. all against, nay.
>>
>> if worse comes to worst and we'd rather not suggest ppc on the wiki, then
>> i can always throw something on ubuntu forums but i personally tend to give
>> more weight to the wiki than the forums.
>>
>> i'll add that i've been running mintppc as well and it is fantastic out
>> of the box-- even better than debian ppc. i'm hoping to hack into the
>> config files and see what's under the hood and see if i can't re-create it.
>> possibly i might even be able to create an unattend file (mintppc install
>> involves booting the debian netboot cd and issuing "auto url=mintppc.org"
>> at the yaboot prompt) to make things even easier. if anyone's interested at
>> least!
>>
>> lastly, is there anything i can do to help with the ppc builds? despite
>> canonical's lack of support for ppc, it is the perfect platform for a
>> lightweight linux like lubuntu, so i'm motivated to help make it happen.
>>
>> wxl/walter
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PPC

[Phill Whiteside]

I have no problems mentioning it as a community build, but Julien ıs better
placed to check if it would cause problems on our 'Get Lubuntu' page.

Regards,

Phillw



On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 8:44 PM,  wrote:

> i know we've talked briefly about deferring any ppc builds but i was
> hoping (if not for any other reason, but to help further development of the
> unofficial and unsupported port) to post up on the wiki my methodology to
> install and get current using the most current ppc build at
> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111011/.
>
> all in favor, say aye. all against, nay.
>
> if worse comes to worst and we'd rather not suggest ppc on the wiki, then
> i can always throw something on ubuntu forums but i personally tend to give
> more weight to the wiki than the forums.
>
> i'll add that i've been running mintppc as well and it is fantastic out of
> the box-- even better than debian ppc. i'm hoping to hack into the config
> files and see what's under the hood and see if i can't re-create it.
> possibly i might even be able to create an unattend file (mintppc install
> involves booting the debian netboot cd and issuing "auto url=mintppc.org"
> at the yaboot prompt) to make things even easier. if anyone's interested at
> least!
>
> lastly, is there anything i can do to help with the ppc builds? despite
> canonical's lack of support for ppc, it is the perfect platform for a
> lightweight linux like lubuntu, so i'm motivated to help make it happen.
>
> wxl/walter
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: End of support for Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) Netbook and ARM - 2011/10/29

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi guys,

does this affect our backporting of stuff to the 10.04 release?

Thanks,

Phill.

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Date: Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM
Subject: End of support for Ubuntu 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) Netbook and ARM -
2011/10/29
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Ubuntu announced the 10.04 Netbook Edition and Ubuntu for ARM products
18 months ago, on April 29, 2010.   At that time, Ubuntu committed to
ongoing security and critical fixes for a period of 18 months for these
specific products.

This support period is now ending, and on October 29, 2011 the 10.04
Netbook Edition and Ubuntu for ARM products will no longer be supported.
Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Desktop and Server products continue to be supported.

The upgrade path from Ubuntu 10.04 Netbook and ARM is to Ubuntu 10.10.
Instructions and caveats for the upgrade may be found at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades.

Ubuntu 10.04 LTS for Desktop and Server products continues to be
actively supported with security updates and select high-impact bug
fixes. All announcements of official security updates for Ubuntu
releases are sent to the ubuntu-security-announce mailing list,
information about which may be found at
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-security-announce.

Since its launch in October 2004 Ubuntu has become one of the most
highly regarded Linux distributions with millions of users in homes,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New member, Michael Rawson

[Phill Whiteside]

Welcome to the little part of the world we call madness, enjoy yourself and
get to know us all at the two IRC areas.

Regards,

Phillw

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 2:33 AM, Michael Rawson
wrote:

> Hi guys!
>
> I'm a new member, recruited by amjjawad (you probably know him!).
>
> Just like to say hello, and what a great new interface you have. (hey,
> graphic designers, good job there!)
>
> Wiki page with contact details and things here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**
> MichaelRawson . Hope to help
> shortly, I have modest coding and packaging skills and like writing
> documentation.
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] DNS troubleshooting basics (was: www.lxde.org is down!)

[Phill Whiteside]

Or, of course, we could always choose to use a decent DNS provider!

I do not mind paying the 15 bucks per year to pop it onto the provider I
use.

Regards,

Phill.

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:

> On 10/25/2011 03:36 PM, Ali Linx wrote:
>
> > Network Error (dns_server_failure)
> >
> >   Your request could not be processed because an error occurred
> contacting
> > the DNS server.  ...
>
>
> Here is how to troubleshoot this kind of issue:
>
> (1) Use dig +nssearch to find out the nameservers for the domain:
>
>  dig lxde.org +nssearch
>
> This should return information on the reachability of each registered
> nameserver for the domain, and the DNS serial number of the information
> it contains.  Unfortunately, for lxde.org, I get currently "connection
> timed out; no servers could be reached", which indicates a significant
> problem.  To see what kind of information you get when things are
> working correctly, try
>
>  dig lubuntu.net +nssearch
>
> (1B) Since that lookup for lxde.org totally failed (!), use whois to
> determine what the listed nameservers for the domain are, instead:
>
>  whois lxde.org
>
> This returns a bunch of information, including:
>
>  Name Server:LINUX3.CC.NTU.EDU.TW
>  Name Server:NS1.XINH.ORG
>  Name Server:NS2.XINH.ORG
>  Name Server:DNS.LXDE.ORG
>
> So, now we know the four authoritative nameservers for lxde.org,
> according to whois. (Note: when changes are being made, whois
> information can be up to 24 hours behind reality; if nameserver
> information from dig +nssearch and whois is different, info from dig is
> much more likely to be correct).
>
> (2) Check each of the authoritative nameservers in turn, to see if they
> are working, and whether they return the correct (expected) result for
> the site you are trying to access:
>
>  dig @linux3.cc.ntu.edu.tw www.lxde.org.
>
> That gets me a SERVFAIL response and no A record.  Strike one!
>
>  dig @ns1.xinh.org www.lxde.org.
>
> That gets me a "connection timed out; no servers could be reached".
> Strike two!
>
>  dig @ns2.xinh.org www.lxde.org.
>
> That also gets me a "connection timed out; no servers could be reached".
>  Strike three!
>
>  dig @dns.lxde.org  www.lxde.org.
>
> This gets me a "dig: couldn't get address for 'dns.lxde.org': not found".
>
> None of the specified authoritative DNS servers for the lxde.org zone
> are working.  In case it is not obvious: this is really bad and needs
> fixing.
>
> (3) Fortunately, some cached DNS information does still exist out there,
> on other public DNS servers, for example
>
>  dig @8.8.8.8 www.lxde.org.
>
> returns an CNAME and A record:
>
>  www.lxde.org.  47028   IN  CNAME   start.lxde.org.
>  start.lxde.org.47028   IN  A   210.240.39.201
>
> This info looks like it will expire in 47028 seconds, which is about 13
> hours... unless the Google DNS server (8.8.8.8) has better connectivity
> to the official DNS servers for lxde.org than I have.
>
> BOTTOM LINE:
>
> At least for now, anyone using Google's public DNS servers will still be
> able to access www.lxde.org.  Anyone using their own caching DNS server
> that does not yet have lxde.org information cached in it, or using their
> ISPs DNS server that does not yet have lxde.org information cached in
> it, will *not* be able to look up the IP address for www.lxde.org and so
> will be unable to browse to that site.
>
> POSSIBLE FIXES:
>
> If it would be useful, I would be happy to run DNS for lxde.org on one
> or two small DNS servers under my control, at no cost.  They run DNS for
> only a couple of hundred domains or so, and so far are a lot more
> reliable than the current lxde.org DNS servers seem to be :)  Currently
> they each run a different version of BSD, and are completely independent
> in terms of power and network connectivity (they are located on opposite
> coasts of the USA).
>
> I vaguely remember offering this once before, and there was some reason
> why it didn't make sense to do it...?
>
> Jonathan
>
> PS.  Just for fun: note that even the mighty Google can't work around
> completely broken or missing information:
>
>  dig @8.8.8.8 dns.lxde.org
>
> returns a SERVFAIL, and does not return an A record.  Looking up
> start.lxde.org in the same way fails similarly.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts

[Phill Whiteside]

I have queried about why this suddenly happened, but am still awaiting a
reply. I proposed 2 courses of action, either they correct the bug (my
preferred one), or we have to manually rename the pages (a royal pain in the
neck!).

Regards,

Phill.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Tim Bernhard  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Ali Linx  wrote:
>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu (click on Document and Help)
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu (click on Lubuntu
>> Documentation)
>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation
>>
>> Not sure what link you mean?
>>
>> If you are talking about this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community
>> There was no link for Lubuntu since beginning (UserDocumentation (last
>> edited 2011-08-18 20:20:58 by 
>> manzdagratiano
>> ))
>>
>>
>
> Yes. that is what I was talking about.
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] samba support

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Julien,

it seems that there is a missing library for samba support, namely smbfs. As
I'm not sure where you want it reporting, I include the chat.

(00:47:48) wxl: does lubuntu inheriently lack smb support?
(00:48:11) wxl: oh nevermind figured it out
(00:48:11) *illusions left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving).*
(00:48:25) wxl: weird i can't use go > network shares but smb://server works
(00:52:26) phillw: samba should be automatic with pcmanfm
(00:54:02) phillw: network shares is a diffirent app. Please raise a bug
against it if it is not working. bugs not reported only ever get fixed by
chance :)
(00:54:19) wxl: :D
(00:55:31) phillw: in the past we had pyneighbourhood, but that wouldn't
"play' either, so pcman added it to pcmanfm to save grief :) (He's a darn
good guy).
(00:59:46) wxl: grrr
(01:00:00) wxl: pcmanfm can find the share but i'm having a hell of a time
mounting it
(01:00:42) phillw: wxl: is it password protected?
(01:00:48) wxl: nope
(01:01:10) wxl: ntfs share i should say
(01:01:42) phillw: wxl: I've got to be honest, I'm not familiar. The only
samba stuff I know of is for windoze.
(01:02:06) phillw: ntfs = windoze :)
(01:02:10) wxl: riiight
(01:02:45) phillw: wxl: been too long since I use windows :) Is it an
area you would like automounting?
(01:03:00) wxl: naw
(01:04:36) KM0201: wxl: should work fine.. i use samba quite a bit (even w/o
windows machines) cuz its just so easy just open pcman
smb://192.168.1.xx
(01:04:46) wxl: KM0201: what about in cli?
(01:04:51) phillw: pcmanfm 'should' be able to see it. As not too many of us
have drives that need samba, I'm at a loss as to who to suggest can help. I
know how to alter the fstab to automount.
(01:05:01) phillw: thanks KM0201 :)
(01:05:05) KM0201: um, i've never tried to mount one from cli, but it
shouldn't be to difficult i dont think
(01:05:34) phillw: use the same ops as for fstab table?
(01:05:51) KM0201: so he's trying to automount a samba share?
(01:06:11) wxl: no automount
(01:06:13) KM0201: i thought he was just trying to mount it it.
(01:06:31) wxl: weird
(01:06:35) wxl: i don't have smbfs
(01:06:47) KM0201: sudo apt-get install samba
(01:07:06) KM0201: i dont think samba installs automatically
(01:07:17) KM0201: did you have an smb.conf?
(01:07:25) wxl: well i have no problem accessing in pcmanfm
(01:07:28) phillw: if it is ntfs, you may want the easy version of
ntfs-config?
(01:07:32) phillw: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=96
(01:08:10) KM0201: ok.. so you have no problem accessing i pcmanfm.. so..
you want to automount a samba share? (thought you said earlier you didn't
wanted "no automount".. or am i confused)
(01:08:58) KM0201: wxl: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-8.html
(01:08:59) wxl: nope you're on it KM0201
(01:09:05) wxl: problem was smbfs was missing
(01:09:09) KM0201: ok.
(01:09:12) wxl: now mount -t cifs blah blah all good
(01:11:38) phillw: wxl: I'm guessing the library eats up RAM... therefore
not a default. I'll check with the boss.
(01:12:59) wxl: phillw: i'd be interested to know
(01:13:09) wxl: i could see the argument made that few use cli and it's not
necessary
(01:13:17) wxl: and that the hardcore user will figure it out and install
what they want
(01:22:44) phillw: wxl: does network share now work?
(01:22:56) wxl: no problem phillw
(01:22:56) *philipballew [~philipbal@ubuntu/member/philipballew] entered the
room.*
(01:23:35) phillw: then, for network share to function, it needs smbfs -
that is a bug :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Leszek,

would you be so kind as to update
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#Screencasts

Thanks,

Phill.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote:

> Am 17.10.2011 23:37, schrieb Gabriel Salles:
> > There are some people in Brazil asking me that too..
> >
> > Gabriel Salles
> >
> >
> > 2011/10/17 vanyok 
> >
> >> Hello everybody,
> >>
> >> Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website.
> >> There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it possible
> >> to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to
> >> place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts,
> >> links or whatever)?
> >>
> >> Thank you!
> >> Best regs,
> >> Ivan aka vanyok
>
> For the Screencasts note that they are still available. See :
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11356081&postcount=5
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Calling for a Team-Work :)

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

Let me nail one thing to rest We, nor any other variant of ubuntu will
have a sub-forum on the main forum.

There is a simple reasoning behind it We share well over 90% of the same
stuff, the usage of the tags allows people to alert support people to know
of the 10% differences. An easy example would be one of the support guys
giving a new comer instructions and he says to start 'Terminal' to type some
stuff in, such as lspci. Obviously we use LXTerminal and the new person may
then have to reply back to and say he could not find 'Terminal', and would
LXTerminal do. Now the problem the user has is an issue that affects all
n00bs from time to time has a delay. In a 'dedicated' area, we lose all the
other people from the other flavours of *buntu, and we lose them. so, quite
simply, it is never going to happen. That is why
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal#Starting_a_Terminal exists.
But the use of tags ensures that the person giving help knows which of the
invocation commands to use. Any of the support people can help across the
different variants, but it is vital that we know which one the OP is using.

As I wander across wiki pages, I keep adding the lubuntu version to them. We
were told 'off the record' that we could start to add Lubuntu to all the
many pages where a difference in flavour of the *buntu made for different
instructions before we got our full adoption. There is no chance we can ever
catch them all as new pages are created daily, what we can and must do is
edit any pages we come across where lubuntu variant needs adding.

Regards,


Phill.



On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:

> Hello my friend and mentor and hope you don't mind to have a young crazy
> brother :P
>
> I think I should have been clear from beginning so there you go :)
> I'm NOT planning to CHANGE any current scheme or system whatsoever. Why?
> because, as you wrote, Roma wasn't built in one day. I just want to "focus"
> on something that will give us another plus. Users are sometime complaining
> why there is no sub-forum for lubuntu? why the support is so slow? etc etc.
> You know these stuff, I'm sure :)
> It's not that I want to prove to them how good we are; our actions speak
> louder than our words but I just want our team, Lubuntu Team (family) to be
> very much capable in everything and one thing specific: being fast. I know
> what you'll say about that :D
>
> I have no huge plan, it's a basic one. I'm currently working on:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/LXDE/21251244425
> https://www.facebook.com/pages/lubuntu/105956559439428
> http://forum.lxde.org/
> and of course http://ubuntuforums.org
>
> I have made some friends over Ubuntu Forum (I'm so fast in that by the way
> :P) and I have asked them to team up with me and they agreed but as you
> know, life issues could make everyone busy and away from Linux and I totally
> understand that.
> Having that said, I thought to find more people to pop up more on the above
> 4 websites/pages and support the users. That is preciously why I have
> requested to be an admin on Lubuntu and LXDE FB Pages because for me, as a
> user, I'd love to see someone from the team is interacting and posting, etc.
> That will add more confident to them.
>
> I already started some topics on LXDE Forum which is all about Lubuntu.
> Two Guides so far, nothing much but also not bad :)
> Two feedback topics
> and willing to do more.
>
> I'm SO MUCH happy with what I'm doing and because I'm just a member of this
> family, I'd like to share my happiness with ALL of you.
>
> Again, no big plans at the moment.
>
> I'm aware of the tags and prefix. I use that when I do my search. I'm doing
> my best to reply Lubuntu Threads on UF as much as possible. I also see some
> other people who are not in our team but interested in Lubuntu and they are
> helping too.
>
> *Bottom Line:
> *All what I'm asking for is: Let's focus our work and be more organized
> and that will be done via some teams or even one team.
>
> For example: It's 4am in my time and 3 threads are pending. I could send a
> message to someone in the team who is online and he/she can pop up and help.
>
>
> Phill, I'll definitely follow your instructions and advice and that's why
> I'll log off now and go to eat :D
>
> Thank you so much for everything ... I'm so much happy here and I'll be
> around for a very long time hopefully :)
>
> Who would give you hard time except me? :P
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 4:03 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
>> Hi my young friend,
>>
>> the system we have on the main ubuntu was grant

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Rename LSC?

[Phill Whiteside]

As ever, Julien, you give wise council. Again, as ever, you are minded the
same as myself so your proposal gets a +1 from me.

Regards,

Phill.

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>  Le 10/17/2011 06:52 PM, Glenn de Groot a écrit :
>
> I think that if we rename Lubuntu Software Center to LXDE Software Center
> or maybe something catchy, other distros and developers will join.
>
> LSC is still very tied to Ubuntu, using apt-daemon and app-install
> directory, which are Ubuntu specific.
> When LSC will migrate to AppStream project [1], maybe we can rename it. But
> for now, this will cause more trouble than good things.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> [1] http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net and screencasts

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Mario,

Were you hosting these directly on lubuntu.net or were they just pointers to
a different area (I think it was the latter), if it is the former then I can
pop them on my server whilst the new hosting system is brought on-line and
update the help area of our wiki. If the latter then I can get the wiki
updated pretty quickly. In both cases I need to get the topics & links.

Regards,

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On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Gabriel Salles wrote:

> There are some people in Brazil asking me that too..
>
> Gabriel Salles
>
>
> 2011/10/17 vanyok 
>
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> Just one short question about Lubuntu.net website.
>> There were a lot of valuable articles and screencasts. Is it possible
>> to get them all in one place as it was on site? Can we get them to
>> place on our site Lubuntu.ru (for sure with copyrights/copylefts,
>> links or whatever)?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> Best regs,
>> Ivan aka vanyok
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Calling for a Team-Work :)

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi my young friend,

the system we have on the main ubuntu was granted to us (the tags) long,
long before we became official. I'm not too sure what you have in mind but I
prefer to use the main forum area with the ability to add and search tags as
per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation#How_to_help Lubuntu
had some good friends even back then, we asked people to allow Lubuntu to
avoid the 'chicken and egg' syndrome. I know and I'm sure the others do, we
were shown every courtesy and assistance. Things that should only be done
for 'official' variants were done for Lubuntu.

I'll give you the instruction one of my trainers gave me. Do NOT burn out,
you are no use to us if you burn out and leave. Rome was not built in a day
& Lubuntu has done very well from starting at about 9.04 to full acceptance
at 11.10.

Take your time, but do ensure you eat and sleep!

Phill.


On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:44 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> A friend and a mentor to me has advised me many times now to slow down and
> take care but ... Linux is the cure for my issues so ... enough drama, let's
> rock :)
> One last email and I'm off. I did watch a movie for a change today though
> :P
>
> Guys and girls, long story short. I was and still very active on Ubuntu
> Forum. Now, Lubuntu became Official (YES!) and I'm sure more new threads
> whether on Ubuntu Forum OR LXDE Forum (where I'm a moderator there) will be
> created. I'm very much able to handle all that but I do confess and admit
> that I don't know anything yet. My request is simple.
>
> I need some people who already have an account on Ubuntu Forum to team up
> with me. I'm planning for something. I'll hold it for now. I need to know
> who is IN. I don't mind to be alone on this but you guys are my family and I
> hate to do things alone, I do love team work. I told that to 4 new friends
> on IRC recently.
>
> I'm on Google, and you have other links on my signature. Whatever way you
> want to use to contact me, just do it.
>
> I'll be waiting for your reply for a week. Take your time :)
>
> Why is all that? it's because the more support users will find, the better
> and the faster to fix any issue.
>
> I love you all ... you simply ROCK!
>
> OK OK, I'm leaving  ... :D
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Netbook Mode Broken in 11.10? and Where is LightDM?

[Phill Whiteside]

Workaround added to
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Workarounds#Lubuntu_Netbook_not_launching


Regards,

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On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>  Le 10/16/2011 03:38 PM, WANG, Xiaoyun a écrit :
>
> I just upgraded my netbook to lubuntu 11.10 and I found I can not log
> in in lubuntu Netbook mode. Is it broken or did I miss something?
>
>  No, it's currently broken, see
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxdm/+bug/875991
> If you want a quick workaround :
> sudo cp /usr/share/xsessions/Lubuntu-Netbook.desktop
> /usr/share/xsessions/Lubuntu-Netbook2.desktop
> gksu leafpad /usr/share/xsessions/Lubuntu-Netbook2.desktop
> Remove the space in Name: (Lubuntu Netbook by LubuntuNetbook).
> Reboot, and start LubuntuNetbook session instead of Lubuntu Netbook
>
> It should work until we have a real fix.
>
>
>  Another question is I thought this release will use LightDM instead of
> LXDM, but I still see LXDM and it seems LightDM is not installed at
> all. Did I miss something? I'm looking forward to switching to LightDM
> as I want to keep more than 1 user logged in in the netbook
> simultaneously and LXDM does not let me do so.
>
>  We keep lxdm by default, but you can still install lightdm, and set it by
> default.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 Autostart bug

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Rob,

this seems to be the behaviour being shown at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/873756 It may be worth adding your comments
and marking it as 'affects me' so you can track its progress.

Regards,

Phill.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Rob  wrote:

> If one updates the autostart file in folder /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu and
> add an entry, say @leafpad %f, when on logs in again one get two sessions of
> leafpad not one.
>
>
> @lxpanel --profile Lubuntu
> @xscreensaver -no-splash
> @xfce4-power-manager
> @pcmanfm --desktop --profile lubuntu
> @/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/**polkit-gnome-authentication-**agent-1
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] cd wallet

[Phill Whiteside]

do check any designs out with Canonical Copyright department ... yeah, sad,,
but they do have one. Not for us, but to stop people stealing stuff.

http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy

As you ask, tell them to get
the page updated to include Lubuntu :P  Oh, if they were so not "oooh, we
cannot do that until 11.10 is accepted", such things could have been
resolved months ago. I Soo love councils, if it were them we'd be
lucky to get approved by 37.12. How Ubuntu will fare when our SABDFL goes up
stairs and joins the one from Apple, who knows.

Regards,

Phill.

On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset  wrote:

>  El 14-10-2011 16:46, 神癒礁湖 escribió:
>
> Yep, sorry, sent thumbnail only. Here's real sized:
>
> http://i.imgur.com/7OYOl.png
>
> And here are the others, "traditional Lubuntu style":
>
> cover: http://i.imgur.com/XFRt1.png
> disc: http://i.imgur.com/zcfhK.png
> scribe: http://i.imgur.com/mLLh6.png
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Personal stuff.

[Phill Whiteside]

hi,

I've been off for a few days, hopefully after the weekend I will be better
in my self. I'll let you all know what decisions I've made about monday.

sorry for not being to hand at release date, but things escalated beyond by
own control. Thank-you to those who took up the scary bit of moving 11.10
from test to live on docs. Again, I've only had a little time to tidy up a
few things that were flagged to me to be checked.

Regards,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last information before the release

[Phill Whiteside]

I'll do my best for isos, I'm limited as it takes hours to download, any
priorities yeah,, i386 . i686 variants only, we have a guy begging for
ppc... Not default, but I do not think it is impossible.

@all please do try & click off the tests, we REALLY need them.

Regards,

Phill.

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> Just a reminder, release of Lubuntu 11.10 is still panned for Thursday (did
> I say it already ? :p)
>
> With the testing still in progress (see
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/lubuntu/all), there is also a
> couple of information we will provide on release day.
>
> There is the official announcement :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/11.10
>
> There is also the release notes :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseNotes/OneiricOcelot
>
> It's still drafts, but if you have comments to add, let me know (before
> Thurday ;))
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
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[Lubuntu-desktop] The new direction for lubuntu

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Jono,

your favourite pain in the neck.

you wrote a brilliant article on meeting crossroads on your views at
http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/19/the-ubuntu-ethos/ For anyone who has not
read it and understood it, the remainder of this will be meaningless.

For ubuntu in general, we are loosing really good people. I'm sure you'd
like to know why


(19:52:20) x sort of been drifting to Fedora , where I can be nameless
(19:52:37) phillw: I have a problem with councils... I'll say it straight. A
camel is a two humped beast that has a bad attitude comittee devlopment
of a ourse.
(19:53:28) xx: Well, I do not think highly of #ubuntu, horrible channel,
all manor of bad un-ubuntu behavior there
(19:53:31) phillw: As you konw, I'm going to take the RHCE exam, so already
have fedora on one of my VM's
(19:53:39) xx: And the CC is almost hand picked
(19:54:00) x: They take a list of candidates, and select the ones they
want to run
(19:54:30) phillw: Thank you for being so honest. I made my views clear in
the recent ubuntu questionaire.
(19:54:42) x: You have to be a serious brown nose if you want to raise
up in the Ubuntu ranks, has nothing to do with competence
(19:55:09) x: If I did not enjoy the forums, and a few friends on IRC, I
would not be active with Ubuntu at all =)
(19:55:24) phillw: I'd lol, if it were not for the fact they are driving
people away.
(19:55:29) xx: I do not like LP, #ubuntu, or the CC
(19:55:50) xx: +1 for driving people away, good people
(19:56:21) xx: That is why Ubuntu is a gateway OS, it is very easy for
new users, but many people migrate to another option after 12-18 months
(19:57:03) phillw: At least is not just me seeing that. and also why I
REALLY do not want lubuntu to fall to 'council'.
(19:58:01) xx: Well, if you think about it, you either have to fall
under the CC or change your name
(19:58:03) xxx: your choice
(19:58:17) x: I went with name change
-- 

This, very experienced person should be listened to. From others I have been
asked to go to debian areas etc.

Jono, one thing from all of this is 'councils', if you wish to chat quietly
we can discuss. One thing lubuntu has not got is a council, the other
council people are circling like vultures to add lubuntu to their list of
domains. It is actually quite abhorrent on the ubuntu-irc-council area. Of
all team areas that I have ever asked for help as lubuntu grew... they said
no. That made me take a step back & re consider things... Then I realised
that we are actually leaking good, dedicated people. And I also realised why
lubuntu actually got there... We don't have a council, we do not vote people
up on popularity competitions. We do not "if you vote for me, I'll vote for
you" which sees the same people on so many 'councils' - How are they
representative of the people who:
1) use it
2) support it.

For a council to state that lubuntu could not have its OP's agreed to, when
we do not need them is beyond a joke & proves what little use they are. We
had, and have a great IRC area long before they appeared do we need a
council? No, we do not. We are self governing. We have our discussions on
the mailing list and decide upon things. Then the Devs tell us which ones we
can have; whether programmes, new features, new art-work etc.

Councils? Badges?... I say no, in the early days, we held a vote and said
NO. I really do think that ubuntu in all flavours should be given back to
those who use it & no more the 'behind the doors, closed, committee
meetings'.

As ever,

thanks for reading - I look forward to your comments.

Regards,

Phill.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last tests before 11.10 release

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Ali,

you will not see pre-release versions on torrents. The final QA testing is
the most critical part. It is when the few say that it is ready for the
many. After that all the fireworks start. Doing installs of QA releases is a
lot more important than people realise. I'm happy that you are going to try
the QA version. As Julien said, if you have a bug SHOUT (But please
do check the known ones before you raise a new one).

Regards,

Phill.

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:

>
> Hello Phill,
>
> Sure thing. I just founded it (zsync) so interesting to try, thus I tired
> it but it was so slow and I understand now why is that.
>
> Yes, I always think that seeding and using torrent is much better but as
> you said, we are begging people to use that but we can't force them,
> apparently.
>
> This is the page I found: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/6772
> However, I can't see any torrent here.
>
> I stopped the upgrade (zsync) and will go for downloading and as usual,
> will do that on my both test PCs.
>
>
>
> I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version
>> new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system
>> working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) )
>
>
> Sorry, I did not get that?
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>
>> Ali,
>>
>> we need testing on completely new install - not an upgrade. New people
>> will not be using zsync... they will be using the iso. At this time of year
>> (release time) the servers get hammered. Too many people, too few servers.
>> It is for this reason we beg people to use the torrents and be seeders;
>> every seeder makes a difference for the better.
>>
>> I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version
>> new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system
>> working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) )
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using:
>>>
>>>> zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.co20111007/oneiric-desktop-i386.iso.zsync
>>>
>>>
>>> But it always gets stuck some where like:
>>>
>>> #--- 7.1% 0.9 kBps
>>> #--- 7.1% 41.5 kBps 264:02 ETA  ^C
>>>
>>> ##-- 13.6% 8.1 kBps ETA
>>> ##-- 14.4% 4.8 kBps ETA
>>> ##-- 14.5% 106.3 kBps 93:26 ETA  ^C
>>>
>>>  21.9% 8.3 kBps ETA
>>>  22.1% 5.0 kBps ETA
>>>  22.5% 1.8 kBps ETA
>>> ^C
>>>
>>> and as you can see, I have to press Ctrl+C to end it and start over
>>> again.
>>>
>>> I thought it will be must faster than downloading 666MB but apparently,
>>> it's not :(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Just a reminder, the release of Lubuntu 11.10 is planned on Thurday :)
>>>>
>>>> Pre-release images are available for testing on
>>>> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/
>>>>
>>>> Pleas use the tracker to report of failed or successful installation and
>>>> testing. We probably not be able to include many fixes in the ISO itself.
>>>> But if we found bugs fixable, we can add them to the post-release updates.
>>>>
>>>> I maintain the list of current known bugs here :
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#ISO_Testing_Bugs
>>>> I'll mention the most annoying ones on the release note. Let me know if
>>>> other bugs should be in.
>>>>
>>>> We are close to the release, just a bit of more effort, and we can
>>>> celebrate it :)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Last tests before 11.10 release

[Phill Whiteside]

Ali,

we need testing on completely new install - not an upgrade. New people will
not be using zsync... they will be using the iso. At this time of year
(release time) the servers get hammered. Too many people, too few servers.
It is for this reason we beg people to use the torrents and be seeders;
every seeder makes a difference for the better.

I'll drag down the RC version and pop it onto piglet. This is the version
new people will be using. (I'm hoping they have got the Ubiquity system
working, else we're going to be giving lessons on the alternate CD ;) )

Regards,

Phill.

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:

> I'm using:
>
>> zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.co20111007/oneiric-desktop-i386.iso.zsync
>
>
> But it always gets stuck some where like:
>
> #--- 7.1% 0.9 kBps
> #--- 7.1% 41.5 kBps 264:02 ETA  ^C
>
> ##-- 13.6% 8.1 kBps ETA
> ##-- 14.4% 4.8 kBps ETA
> ##-- 14.5% 106.3 kBps 93:26 ETA  ^C
>
>  21.9% 8.3 kBps ETA
>  22.1% 5.0 kBps ETA
>  22.5% 1.8 kBps ETA
> ^C
>
> and as you can see, I have to press Ctrl+C to end it and start over again.
>
> I thought it will be must faster than downloading 666MB but apparently,
> it's not :(
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> Just a reminder, the release of Lubuntu 11.10 is planned on Thurday :)
>>
>> Pre-release images are available for testing on
>> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/
>>
>> Pleas use the tracker to report of failed or successful installation and
>> testing. We probably not be able to include many fixes in the ISO itself.
>> But if we found bugs fixable, we can add them to the post-release updates.
>>
>> I maintain the list of current known bugs here :
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO#ISO_Testing_Bugs
>> I'll mention the most annoying ones on the release note. Let me know if
>> other bugs should be in.
>>
>> We are close to the release, just a bit of more effort, and we can
>> celebrate it :)
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Installer issues with PPC Ocelot

[Phill Whiteside]

thanks walter,

as soon as I get feed back from the QA people, I'll update everyone. If I
have nothing by monday night... I'll go nagging again :P As I said, i'm not
too sure where the bug should be reported. My instincts are as a build
failure, but I'm not a dev :P

Regards,

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On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Walter Lapchynski
wrote:

>
> Thanks again, Phil. I did add this to the one place I know of, bug 756719
> in Launchpad. If it should go elsewhere or if more detail is required, let
> me know.
>
>
> ------
> On Oct 7, 2011 11:57 AM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:
>
> Hi QA,
>
> for my limited knowledge, this seems like a problem in the build engine as
> it is affecting both lubuntu & ubuntu. I had previously pointed the OP to
> the bug affecting the 'mirror' problem.
> Should this be filed against Ubiquity or the build system, or something
> else? I'm certain that he would than happy to provide further information on
> what the system is doing etc if asked.
>
> @ Walter, as you can see, I've asked the QA team to issue guidance as to
> where best to report the problem. Thanks for taking the time to report the
> issue, I hope to have good news for you soon.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Walter Lapchynski 
> Date: Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:12 PM
> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installer issues with PPC Ocelot
> To: "lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net" <
> lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net>
>
>
> I was SO excited to see Lubuntu on Canonical with an Ocelot version. My 12"
> PowerBook G4 has been waiting forever for this.
>
> Unfortunately, installation isn't going well. Desktop installer needed a
> bunch of upgrades (including to pygobject which caused an error) and then
> failed because of a supposedly fixed error in choose-mirror where "mirror"
> is the default rather than "ports.ubuntu.com."
>
> This error IS fixed in x86 Ocelot but not in PPC. Standard Ubuntu PPC
> Ocelot has the same issue, so this is not just Lubuntu.
>
> I have tried to run Ubiquity without the network connection and yet still
> the installer attempts to download packages.
>
> I tried the alternate install CD and it boots fine, but when it comes to
> detecting the cdrom, it fails. The BusyBox shell fails to reveal mention of
> the cdrom anywhere: syslog, dmesg, /proc, /dev, etc. I tried to try again
> many times over to no avail.
>
> Interestingly, the latest Debian Squeeze PPC small CD, which I believe has
> the same installer, has no problems detecting the cdrom.
>
> So I don't know where to go next but I'm hoping that maybe the
> choose-mirror fix can be applied to the PPC version or that perhaps there
> may be some config file (like sources.list but for choose-mirror) I could
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Installer issues with PPC Ocelot

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi QA,

for my limited knowledge, this seems like a problem in the build engine as
it is affecting both lubuntu & ubuntu. I had previously pointed the OP to
the bug affecting the 'mirror' problem.
Should this be filed against Ubiquity or the build system, or something
else? I'm certain that he would than happy to provide further information on
what the system is doing etc if asked.

@ Walter, as you can see, I've asked the QA team to issue guidance as to
where best to report the problem. Thanks for taking the time to report the
issue, I hope to have good news for you soon.

Regards,

Phill.

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From: Walter Lapchynski 
Date: Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:12 PM
Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installer issues with PPC Ocelot
To: "lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net" <
lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net>


I was SO excited to see Lubuntu on Canonical with an Ocelot version. My 12"
PowerBook G4 has been waiting forever for this.

Unfortunately, installation isn't going well. Desktop installer needed a
bunch of upgrades (including to pygobject which caused an error) and then
failed because of a supposedly fixed error in choose-mirror where "mirror"
is the default rather than "ports.ubuntu.com."

This error IS fixed in x86 Ocelot but not in PPC. Standard Ubuntu PPC Ocelot
has the same issue, so this is not just Lubuntu.

I have tried to run Ubiquity without the network connection and yet still
the installer attempts to download packages.

I tried the alternate install CD and it boots fine, but when it comes to
detecting the cdrom, it fails. The BusyBox shell fails to reveal mention of
the cdrom anywhere: syslog, dmesg, /proc, /dev, etc. I tried to try again
many times over to no avail.

Interestingly, the latest Debian Squeeze PPC small CD, which I believe has
the same installer, has no problems detecting the cdrom.

So I don't know where to go next but I'm hoping that maybe the choose-mirror
fix can be applied to the PPC version or that perhaps there may be some
config file (like sources.list but for choose-mirror) I could manually edit.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Extend desktop across dual monitors -- a feature I would like to see in Lubuntu 12.xx

[Phill Whiteside]

It was mooted & is on the 'wish list'... However, as stated on
http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=84 it does not work for
everyone, so advising caution & telling people that they are 'on thier own'
is the best for now.

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On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Gabriel Salles wrote:

> Actually I believe that this option should be added to the LxRandr.
>
> Thanks for sharing the link... I will use it on future... =]
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Website and Facebook Page

[Phill Whiteside]

Okies,

without starting a war... I am also an admin for lubuntu,net, as are a
couple of others. I am sure that if you provide a mock-up, or even just
information we will look at it.

what you may not be aware of is once lubuntu becomes assimilated by the
ubuntu community, we do want to actually have a Lubuntu area.

This is a difficult balancing act; we are asking to be fully adopted, yet
slightly seperate. For those eager to change things, may (for the 1st time
ever) I counsel caution. We have discussed making our web area a source, but
as a part of the Canonical umbrella we have done as much as we can. For
those looking at it, you will not see it. But things like tracking from the
web area directly to the wiki area was an important thing to happen. It
means that we need need to keep only one area up to date for instructions
etc.

Wiki's provide information... a good web presence gets people joining. The
links have been done, if any of you want to make a mock-up of how you would
like to see the page displayed, please do so.

@Rafael... I am sure that Mario would have no hesitation on the icons /
glyphs. I'm not a guy who knows about the finer points of editing that area,
for me the actual system chosen is a nightmare! Mainly owing to the fact me
and others have difficulty in navigating around the admin area. But, this is
usual as each system has a different admin control panel!

Ali,

please be patient, I do see your work on the areas and I'm sure you will be
a great addition to the lubuntu team. Just learn to be patient, get to know
people. Most importantly of all, do not burn out, whereby you give all your
attention to lubuntu and then get tired. We need people who will still be
here in 3 - 5 years time. It has taken this long to get here, you are
joining us as we get goal #1. To those who are patient, come the rewards.

Regards,

Phill.

2011/10/5 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) 

> Yep, think so. I'm asking about it a few time ago. I'd like to change the
> buttons, colours and other things to match corporative image (Canonical
> people told me we were a bit "lazy", I told them we were a bit "alone").
>
> I have made some graphics for it, so, if you have time I can send it to you
> to upgrade them also (among CMS content, of course).
>
> Another thing is the necessary update of the CMS theme for matching Ubuntu
> / Canonical ones but blue-tuned. I heared about a template working out
> there.
>
> PS. Isn't Mario Behling the admin?
>
>
>
>    
>
>
>
> 2011/10/5 Ali Linx 
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I'd like to offer my help to update both www.lubuntu.net and
>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/lubuntu/105956559439428 but I have no idea
>> who is in charge of both sites at the moment?
>>
>> I have noticed that Lubuntu Website never get updated on daily or weekly
>> basis and same goes to Lubuntu Facebook Page. I have asked before about who
>> is in charge of the Facebook Page but no one has replied yet. I understand
>> everyone is so busy at the moment but I just thought to offer my help. That
>> is all.
>>
>> If this request will cause confusion and delay of any on going process,
>> PLEASE IGNORE IT.
>>
>> Thanks as always!
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Where should I report a wrong "translation"??

[Phill Whiteside]

I *think* it would be reportable as a Ubiquity bug (the installer system).

I'm sure one of the lubuntu translation team will also pick up on your
email, else I will go digging further.

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> Hi,
>
> At Orkut (something like Facebook, but really popular here in Brazil) a guy
> showed me that the* Lubuntu* spelling is wrong at the Live-CD, as you can
> see on the ScreenShot.
> http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/4243/lubunto.png
> He told me that this ScreenShot is from the last daily (03/10 or 10/03).
>
> I tried to report at the Launchpad
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu/+filebug and I have to decide between *
> LXAdmin*, *Lubuntu Netbook Remix* and *Lubuntu Software Center*, but I
> don't think any of this is the right option... So where should I report
> this?
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] "lubuntu-desktop" installed in Ubuntu

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Ali,

I've replied to both threads pointing them to
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu We
know it works :) As to what Synaptic may do, my guess is a an issue with the
no install-recommends, as that would bring in a load of stuff not needed.
The build system will be different for 11.10, but I do not think the 'add
lubuntu via synaptic' has progressed beyond the "Yeah, it would be nice"
stage. Adding multiple systems on top of each other can throw up all sorts
of odd things. If you have a read of the articles at
http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php written by one of the main forum
mods, it is an excellent resource. IMHO, for those who wish to boot
different systems then I have a seperate /home partition. Provided you keep
you the two (or more) variants up to date, you can share this /home as a
seperate partition. To be honest, such questions are not for beginners, it
can get a bit more involved keeping things in synch. The information is
there :)

Lubuntu, just as Xubuntu, Kubuntu etc. does not have a seperate forum area.
People are asked, however, to use the tags stating which variant they are
using, this makes it easier for everyone. We can find them & others can see
that it is a lubuntu question and not try to give them an answer that works
on, say, gnome!

Regards,

Phill.




On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> As always, while I was searching Ubuntu Forum, I found these two threads:
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1846382
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11290366
>
> I'd like you to have a look at these two and then please read my
> suggestions:
>
> 1- The Wiki Pages need be checked for any confusing instructions. We need
> to keep in mind that many new users will read that and most of them if not
> all have no experience to fix what might go wrong.
> I don't mind to do that job but I'm so busy with Testing Lubuntu 11.10 Beta
> 2 right now and can't find time for Wiki Pages beside I must be familiar
> with it first.
>
> *IMHO, installing a Desktop on the top of another Desktop is not good idea
> but that's me.*
>
>
> 2- Before I go further with these two threads and provide more
> instructions, I'm open to your suggestions here :)
>
> 3- When we'll have Sub-Forum for Lubuntu on Ubutnu Forum?
>
> Thank you!
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 released

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Ali,

to get LSC, you need to add the lubuntu-desktop ppa. *
http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ppa/ubuntu oneiric *to your
repositry. Now, if like me, the gpg key fails manually add it using the
instructions at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/KeyServerInformationOnce
you refresh Synaptics, lubuntu-software-center will be available to
you
:)

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Ali Linx  wrote:

> Hi Julien and everyone,
>
> I have decided to download and install Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 and test it on
> my Two PCs (P4 each but one with 2GB and the other with 512MB RAM but I
> decided to use only 256MB RAM for this test).
>
> I'm done with the installation on PC1 and will install it later on PC2. I'm
> writing this from Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 and so far I'm happy with it :)
>
> Two Qs:
>
> 1) If I want to send my notes regarding my tests, can I do that here on
> this email? or start a new one and send it to
> lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net ??
>
> 2) Where is Lubuntu Software Center? can't find it??!!
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>
>>  Hi,
>>
>> Following the announce for Ubuntu, Lubuntu Beta 2 is also available for
>> testing. You can find it on
>> 
>> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-2/
>>
>> A quick summary of important changes since Beta 1 :
>> * Bug fixes.
>>
>>
>> Know issues :
>>  * Include apt-xapian-index : http://pad.lv/798437
>>  * Installer require 4.6 Gb of free space : http://pad.lv/819538
>>  * Ubiquity broken icon switcher : http://pad.lv/830898
>>  * Update icons on desktop for persitent mode broken :
>> http://pad.lv/837470
>>  * Firefox locales installed : http://pad.lv/820056
>>  * Fallback icons on notification area broken : http://pad.lv/819542 and
>> http://pad.lv/820080
>>  * Not able to install virtualbox drivers after installation from desktop
>> ISO : http://pad.lv/854995
>>  * Entries with "Lubuntu" are not translated on the boot menu on any
>> Lubuntu ISO : http://pad.lv/855977
>>
>>
>> Happy testing
>>
>> Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Light mockup 2

[Phill Whiteside]

looks nice and clean to me :)

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Stefano  wrote:

> excusme, this is the right mockup
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[Lubuntu-desktop] LSC

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Stephen,

I popped 11.10 on to a VM with 256MB RAM and ran the following rather
unscientific tests

At rest, with just LXTerminal and top running:

Mem Used = 214 MB, Swap Used = 0 MB

With Synaptics Package Manager running:

Mem Used = 244 MB, Swap Used = 10 MB

With LSC Running:

Mem Used = 245 MB, Swap Used = 6MB

I rebooted the VM between running Synaptic and LSC as when you quit either
not all the memory returns to the pool. I'm guessing both load libraries
which remain.

IMHO, LSC is certainly not a memory hog compared to Synaptic :) Well done! A
polished GUI for newcomers that does eat up memory! Keep it mean, lean and
keen :)

Regards,

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: [Question #172161]: mailing list archive for Lubuntu stopped at 20th Sept

[Phill Whiteside]

I've marked it as answered, we just be patient :)

Regards,

Phill.

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Subject: Re: [Question #172161]: mailing list archive for Lubuntu stopped at
20th Sept
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Your question #172161 on Launchpad itself changed:
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Status: Open => Answered

William Grant proposed the following answer:
The archiver seems to be overloaded at the moment, stuck reprocessing
some very large lists. Hopefully it will clear the backlog in a day or
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Mailing List Archive

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

well, to cut a long story short... it stopped working 20th Sept. It has now
been reported... reporting a bug about launch pad via launch pad is
something I have now 'sort of' learned how to do. Thanks to the kind micahg
on the bug-squad who got it converted into the correct format for the LP
people to be made aware of. micahg apologised for the 'standard' reply "he
said it was a grease monkey automatic reply" :P But, the bug is now queued
at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/172161 awaiting action.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 released

[Phill Whiteside]

hi Julien,

the lp mail archiving system appears to be 'down'. I've manually copied the
below information to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing But I have no
idea who to ask about the problem with the mail archiving.

Regards,

Phill.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> Following the announce for Ubuntu, Lubuntu Beta 2 is also available for
> testing. You can find it on
> 
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-2/
>
> A quick summary of important changes since Beta 1 :
> * Bug fixes.
>
>
> Know issues :
>  * Include apt-xapian-index : http://pad.lv/798437
>  * Installer require 4.6 Gb of free space : http://pad.lv/819538
>  * Ubiquity broken icon switcher : http://pad.lv/830898
>  * Update icons on desktop for persitent mode broken :
> http://pad.lv/837470
>  * Firefox locales installed : http://pad.lv/820056
>  * Fallback icons on notification area broken : http://pad.lv/819542 and
> http://pad.lv/820080
>  * Not able to install virtualbox drivers after installation from desktop
> ISO : http://pad.lv/854995
>  * Entries with "Lubuntu" are not translated on the boot menu on any
> Lubuntu ISO : http://pad.lv/855977
>
>
> Happy testing
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Beta 2

[Phill Whiteside]

Crikey,

you guys are mad keen... Yes, the beta 2 has left the QA section and onto
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-2/ however, before
you all go posting duplicates of bugs, would you please allow Julien to make
the official announcement with the release notes?

Julien has been mad busy as it went through the QA stage, please give him a
little time to sleep and get the official announcement out with the all
important notes.

Once he officially announces it and the notes, I will update the
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing area. For those who really like the
'cutting edge', why not get involved at the QA stage? Details are on the
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#QA_testing_of_Milestone_releases
 area.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Re: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi Lance,

The test for alternate is certainly there. I'm grabbing the i386 alternate
as it is the alternates we have had some teething problems with.

So, for all of you who have a bit of hard drive available, please head over
to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#QA_testing_of_Milestone_releases
grab
one, test it and report as per the qa section. Then we have a nice beta 2's
to release :)

Regards,

Phill.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Lance  wrote:

> Got this update from jibel :^)
>
> I'll test accordingly.
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/19/11, Jean-Baptiste Lallement 
> *wrote:
>
>
> From: Jean-Baptiste Lallement 
> Subject: Re: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up
> To: "Lance" 
> Date: Monday, September 19, 2011, 2:28 PM
>
> Hey,
>
>
> On 09/19/2011 06:53 PM, Lance wrote:
> > Sorry to be the constant nuisance that I know I am ;^(
> No worries :)
>
>
> >
> > When I click on the Lubuntu test image links I just get:
> >
> > "No image found for this build"
> >
> > I'm beginning from the new build notification in my mailbox.
> >
> > During Beta 1 testing I just used the corresponding daily images and
> > made sure to mention exactly what image I was using, but can we fix this?
> I fixed the path for alternate images which was wrong.
> There has been a problem building the desktop images. I requested a new
> build. New images should be available in the next couple of hours.
>
>
> >
> > As always I appreciate all you do. I know you're facing many difficult
> > tasks.
> >
> > Many thanks in advance,
> Many thanks for all the testing you're doing. That's much appreciated.
>
> >
> > Lance
> >
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up

[Phill Whiteside]

Ah, it appears they're not due until Tuesday :)

Oneiric Beta 2 is due this week and the first candidates will be ready
> for testing on the ISO tracker starting from tomorrow, Tuesday, 20 (for
> the impatient, they are already there for smoke testing).


Regards,

Phill.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:24 PM, Phill Whiteside  wrote:

> I can confirm... I'm sure they'll get it sorted :)
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Lance  wrote:
>
>> Thought I should share what I'm doing ;^)
>>
>> --- On *Mon, 9/19/11, Lance * wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Lance 
>> Subject: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up
>> To: "Jean-Baptiste Lallement" 
>> Date: Monday, September 19, 2011, 11:53 AM
>>
>> Sorry to be the constant nuisance that I know I am ;^(
>>
>> When I click on the Lubuntu test image links I just get:
>>
>> "No image found for this build"
>>
>> I'm beginning from the new build notification in my mailbox.
>>
>> During Beta 1 testing I just used the corresponding daily images and made
>> sure to mention exactly what image I was using, but can we fix this?
>>
>> As always I appreciate all you do. I know you're facing many difficult
>> tasks.
>>
>> Many thanks in advance,
>>
>> Lance
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up

[Phill Whiteside]

I can confirm... I'm sure they'll get it sorted :)

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Lance  wrote:

> Thought I should share what I'm doing ;^)
>
> --- On *Mon, 9/19/11, Lance * wrote:
>
>
> From: Lance 
> Subject: Lubuntu beta 2 iso-test images not showing up
> To: "Jean-Baptiste Lallement" 
> Date: Monday, September 19, 2011, 11:53 AM
>
> Sorry to be the constant nuisance that I know I am ;^(
>
> When I click on the Lubuntu test image links I just get:
>
> "No image found for this build"
>
> I'm beginning from the new build notification in my mailbox.
>
> During Beta 1 testing I just used the corresponding daily images and made
> sure to mention exactly what image I was using, but can we fix this?
>
> As always I appreciate all you do. I know you're facing many difficult
> tasks.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> Lance
>
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Up coming adoption

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

as ever, we approach full adoption with the mass off a run-away train.
Nothing can stop us now :)

But, as ever, there are finer points and sub clauses to be met. One being
IRC. The majority of you will be blissfully unaware that the ubuntuIRCouncil
have had access to #lubuntu as OP's. They now ask that

The current list of core channels is here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/Scope - the concept core channel
is defined there as well. Now that Lubuntu will be an official Ubuntu
derivative, the related support and offtopic channels should be added
there.

As you say above, the channels have pretty much everything set
already. The biggest change that I can quickly think of is that
#lubuntu operators should join #ubuntu-ops and idle there once Lubuntu
becomes official.

-- 
Juha Siltalahttp://ubuntu.com


The alteration being that those who are OP on #lubuntu do auto-join
the #ubuntu-ops area and be recognised. If any one wants to chicken
out having OP status on #lubuntu, now is the time to squeal. In three
days time I will pass on our list to the ubuntu-irc people for them
all to be acknowledged. (He did say idle... it is a case of just being
there and flying the flag, although we who know DE know that we can be
asked onto areas to help out).

Regards,

Phill.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] A request for a spare laptop

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

I know i'm stretching the mailing list, but I ask that those in USA please
have a search through their attics, cellars etc. A young and gifted
programmer had his laptop die. He is head of dev on an upstream project that
involves AI. As he is a student from not one of the most affluent areas of
USA I have tried repeatedly to get him a replacement laptop. He asks for
* "The specs are frivolous; ive lived on 16 gb of space for so long. A
decent 100gb would be luxurious. Also, at least 2gb ram and CPU clocking
speed of 2.20ghz would be cool, those are my typical working conditions. " *
Just to prove this is not a scam as I do know Jacky and the work he does
with Dante on SII, I am more than willing to pay for the carriage. I'm sure
one of you in USA will be able to source one for him. If you want a few $$'s
for your old laptop, then I will also pay for that.

Thanks,

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fw: Re: Release meeting status

[Phill Whiteside]

Cheer up Lance,

I recall using 'valentine' paints on a car body that I had spent days
getting the bumps out of and using cellulose fine filler that you can pretty
much fine emery down until it shines. Yup... those two systems do not like
each other either :(

"Into everyones life a little rain must fall", although I do admit they were
not quite the words I came out with :)

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Lance  wrote:

> Forgot the team, sorry.
>
> I am gaining . very slowly.
>
> Just to clarify: I was not complaining, just trying to point out a problem
> that I've not had time to follow up on properly.
>
> I should have my testing box running again soon. I have most of the data
> copied, I now just need to set up some symlinks.
>
> I hate to mention the kitchen. Hint: don't try to mix lacquer and enamel
> products when refinishing metal cabinets ;^(
>
> Using the wrong filler cost me a whole day.
>
> --- On *Sat, 9/10/11, Lance * wrote:
>
>
> From: Lance 
>
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Release meeting status
> To: "Phill Whiteside" 
> Date: Saturday, September 10, 2011, 6:00 PM
>
>
> That would be very helpful. I already checked to be sure the Ubuntu
> alternate image worked OK.
>
> I need to know if the most recent Lubuntu alternate daily image still
> produces a borked software sources UI.
>
> If so, immediately after installing you should be able to just run
> "ubuntu-bug debian-installer". Then just explain what's wrong.
>
> I am gaining on this end and I'll be able to follow up prior to Beta 2 :^)
>
> --- On *Fri, 9/9/11, Phill Whiteside * wrote:
>
>
> From: Phill Whiteside 
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Release meeting status
> To: "Lance" 
> Cc: "Julien Lavergne" ,
> lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 4:55 PM
>
> hi Lance,
>
> I'll have a play with it over the w/end and see if I can get similar
> behaviour in VM. If not, I'll start slicing disks up :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Lance  wrote:
>
> I plan on doing that but I don't have time to test the current daily ATM.
> That's why I mentioned comparing to Ubuntu alternate-daily but not having
> time yet to test the newest Lubuntu alternate.
>
> I'm just an independent iso-tester and ATM I'm rebuilding my kitchen while
> also rebuilding my testing computer to hopefully be a more efficient
> iso-tester ;^)
>
> I was hoping someone else could jump in and help figure that out and/or
> file a new bug report. Honestly I'm not goofing off, but I was just aware of
> a potential problem that I've not had time to follow up on properly :^)
>
> I'm doing my best, reinstalling Win XP as I type so I can test Wubi stuff,
> even though the Wubi folks might not bring Lubuntu into the fold during the
> Oneiric cycle.
>
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Fri, 9/9/11, Julien Lavergne * wrote:
>
>
> From: Julien Lavergne 
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Release meeting status
> To: "Lance" 
> Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 1:30 PM
>
>
> Pleas open another bug report (it's another problem) and attached the
> content of /etc/apt/sources.list, I'll have a look at it.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> Le 09/09/2011 19:50, Lance a écrit :
>
>   I think Lubuntu looks pretty good, but one thing I do need to follow up
> on is shown here:
>
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-meta/+bug/835961/comments/16
>
> I'd very much appreciate anyone else jumping into testing to see what they
> find. I'm just under serious time constraints ATM but I will follow up ASAP.
>
> As always thanks for all you, and everyone, do to make Lubuntu the great OS
> it is,
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Fri, 9/9/11, Julien Lavergne 
> <http://mc/compose?to=gi...@ubuntu.com>
> * wrote:
>
>
> From: Julien Lavergne 
> <http://mc/compose?to=gi...@ubuntu.com>
> Subject: [Lubuntu-desktop] Release meeting status
> To: "lubuntu-desktop" 
> <http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net>
> Date: Friday, September 9, 2011, 11:02 AM
>
> Hi,
>
> I do a summary of the Lubuntu developpement each week for the release
> meeting. If you are interested, I add them to this page :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
> If you have something to mention before the meeting (each Friday),
> please send me a mail before, so I can have a look at it.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi everyone,

YES, I do take on what everyone says :)

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing

<https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing>Several hours re-working it and
re-phrasing / moving / deleting / adding to it.

I've asked the QA team to check that I am factually correct, as that is my
1st priority. As to the layout - feel free to complain / nag me etc :)

Regards,

Phill.

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lance  wrote:

> Could the "See server" part of the Beta 1 line be highlighted red and link
> to this page:
>
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/MD5SUMS
>
> Just an idea, but I have no idea how to do it ;^)
>
> Also "Torrent link" may be misleading because that link includes all DL
> options (http, jigdo, zsync, torrent).
>
> And that should be the only DL link needed for the Beta 1, having the QA
> testing link there could be confusing because about 4 days before Beta 2
> those images will change, and we mention (and link to) the iso-tracker in
> the next paragraph.
>
> In fact when the LTS releases have "point-upgades", eg: 10.04.4, they also
> pop up on the iso-tracker, sometimes several days prior to the actual
> release.
>
> As always thanks for all you do. That extends to every member of the team.
>
> Lance
>
> --- On *Sat, 9/3/11, Phill Whiteside * wrote:
>
>
> From: Phill Whiteside 
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
> To: "Jonathan Marsden" 
> Cc: "lubuntu-desktop" 
> Date: Saturday, September 3, 2011, 5:33 AM
>
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> as there are various incarnations of lubuntu (i386, amd64, alt.) each
> comes with its own unique md5. That is what I allude to when I state that
> the md5 varies. Maybe a note explaining that there are different build
> flavours each with their own md5 needs doing? I put it simply as for a
> person to check at the down load area for the md5 for which image they
> downloaded?
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Jonathan Marsden 
> http://mc/compose?to=jmars...@fastmail.fm>
> > wrote:
>
> On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing we have a chart that now says
> our md5sums for some ISOs vary.
>
> Um.  The whole point is that they don't :)  For a given ISO image, the
> md5sum *must* be the same, or you don't have the same image!
>
> I think maybe someone got lazy and didn't want to add entries for 4 ISOs
> (LiveCD i386, LiveCD amd64, AlternateCD i386 abd AlternateCD amd64)?  Is
> that what "varies" means -- there are four images, each with their own
> (non-varying!) md5sum?
>
> Basically, I don't think saying our md5sums vary is helpful... can we
> fix this please?
>
> Jonathan
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