Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter section

2011-12-06 Thread Steve Stalcup
On Dec 5, 2011, at 10:40 PM, Scott Kitterman  wrote:

> On 12/06/2011 12:28 AM, Amber Graner wrote:
>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Scott Kitterman  
>> wrote:
>>> None of these are derivatives (Mint is a derivative).  These are other
>>> distribution products developed in the Ubuntu project.  I think it's
>>> much more correct to refer to them as siblings to Ubuntu (Desktop) and
>>> Ubuntu Server.
>>> 
>>> I know you didn't make up this terminology, but in no sense of the word
>>> is derivative correct.
>> 
>> Scott why bring this up to the UWN folks who are trying their hardest
>> to bring the news to folks, why not bring it up to the release manager or 
>> others
>> to change this.  Chris, who is new to the news team, wanted to add a
>> section to cover these distributions, and establish a relationship as
>> well as let you all know what we (the news were doing).
>> Responses like this, to someone who doesn't make those decisions don't
>> help with encouragement, inclusion and good will.  It's like you
>> are beating up the messenger.
>> 
>> We on the news team are trying our best to bring coverage about as
>> many of the flavors, derivatives, siblings or whatever you want to
>> call them.  We were asking for your help and instead you complain
>> about the word.  Seriously?
> 
> Because I find the term offensive.
> 
> I bring it up whenever I see it used.  I even said that I recognized he
> was only using a term others use.
> 
> Why should I not bring it up?
> 
> It's not meant as an attack on anyone, but to express an opinion.  If
> you're going to add a section as a part of showing appreciation, but
> name it something that bothers someone, isn't that useful to know?
> 
> Scott K

This is an insult, tbh [0].  But since when does Canonical care about any other 
flavor?

[0] http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about-ubuntu/derivatives
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE Clock Settings

2011-01-05 Thread Steve
On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 06:27:42 -, Tyler Raper   
wrote:


This is my first post on your mailing list and I have been enjoying the  
hard
work you guys put into the Lubuntu distro. I am by far no linux expert,  
but
I love how lightweight Lubuntu is and how useful it can be to bring old  
PC's

back to a realm of usefulness.


However, I did have a suggestions regarding the LXDE Clock settings. On a
default install %R is what the clock is set at, many PC users are more  
used to the standard time that is used in Windows, on phones, watches  
and other devices. Currently military time is the standard. I would like  
to propose a change to how time is displayed on the taskbar. I think  
%l:%M %p is another format that more people are used to. Which looks  
like (7:37 PM ) when it is displayed. To find out how to do this I had  
to look it up, which is fine
because I am a bit more technical. Another idea if changing the time  
perhaps a dropdown box could be used here to allow users to change the  
style of the time display. It would be much more intuitive for new  
users, I consider this another of the small "papercuts" that this Ubuntu  
derivative has.


I have to admit the clock is a bit of a faff to alter and really could be  
better.  Personally I think the unambiguous 24 hour clock is the best  
default setting and hate having to change phones, etc. to use it.  A  
drop-down menu with a couple of preset options would make life easier.



Thanks for your time, I really do appreciate the effort you guys put in  
and will try to chime in from time to time if I have any thoughts on  
discussions in the mailing list.


Thank you, it's ideas like this that go to make Lubuntu better, as it's  
these 'little' things that tend to annoy people the most.  Feel free to  
chime in as often as you wish.  We also have an IRC channel at #lubuntu on  
freenode.net if you feel you have anything more urgent to discuss.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubunu Screencasts

2011-01-02 Thread Steve
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:43:54 -, Leszek Lesner   
wrote:



Am Sonntag 02 Januar 2011, um 00:41:22 schrieb Yorvyk:

Interesting idea raised by now3d in IRC

Hi there.  Could I ask if you would consider switching the Adobe Flash
videos to be in the Ogg Theora format and use  tag? I looked at
http://lubuntu.net/ but all the videos wouldn't play from Firefox on
Ubuntu.

Not sure how much work this would entail.
Unfortunately my line kept dropping and I didn't get to talk about them  
not

playing in FF.


The newer ones should run fine in Chromium with  
chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra

installed. The older ones are unfortunately only avaiable as flv files.
The new videos from 2011 will be encoded in webm (which should be  
playable in

every browser [FF 4.0 is needed]) + h264 (m4v as blip.tv now converts
automatically to it). As for the video tag. As far as I know chromium is
loading and caching those videos when you add them with the video tag.  
That
would produce high traffic on the server. (blip.tv in that case) So a  
link to
the file would be better I think. Clicking the link should then open up  
the

video in the internal browser video player.

Thanks for the info Leszek.  I just download and play the in Lifrea or  
Opera and haven't had any problems.  I don't know what the problem in FF  
is (codec missing?) as they work for.


Once again thank you for making these screen-casts, as they are very  
useful.


Happy New Year to you.:)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Chromium Sync

2011-01-02 Thread Steve
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 04:56:03 -, K.de Jong   
wrote:



Hello,

On a newly installed lubuntu 10.10
I wanted to sync chromium with google, this was not possible, the process
run after google auth just stops.
I did some updates after that, installed ubuntu tweak and added the ppa  
to

chromium stable.
It seems chromium did a little better, but it still is not possible to  
sync

with google.
Is there some special hack i need to do to get this working ?

I use the sync option in Chromium all the time and don't have any issues.  
It syncs to several machines and when I do a clean install it saves a lot  
of time being able to sync my bookmarks etc. especially extensions.
The only time I've seen a problem was when I had to go through a work  
proxy for someone.  Are you using a proxy?


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] wiki pages

2010-12-22 Thread Steve
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 14:47:37 -, Phill Whiteside   
wrote:



Zach,

you are an absolute star. I had set some time aside after the New Year  
to do

the transfers.

Many, many thanks.

Phill.

-

Hiyas Lubuntueers,

can you go and proof read all of
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation and let us know  
if
there are any bits not working. Then we can set up the auto divert from  
the

old area and 'comply' with the documentation rules for help pages.

Regards,

Phill.

Where would you like the problems reporting?  On the list? or should I  
assist by editing, or both?



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Basics of Bug Triaging

2010-12-16 Thread Steve
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:14:40 -, Yorvyk   
wrote:


Don’t forget, for those that are interested, that this is this evening  
(or whatever time of day it is in your time zone).


On Wednesday, December 15th 2010 at 17:00 UTC we welcome Bug Control  
member Mohamed Amine IL Idrissi (devildante) for a class on the Basics  
of Bug Triaging.


In order to prepare for this class our instructor has requested that you  
have a launchpad.net account, which is required for Ubuntu bug triaging.


The class will take place in #ubuntu-classroom on irc.freenode.net  
(#ubuntu-classroom-chat for questions).


AN interesting and useful session, even if you think you know what you’re  
doing it was a useful reminder about things.  The logs are here for those  
that missed it.  
http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/12/15/%23ubuntu-classroom.txt


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] trash can question

2010-12-16 Thread Steve
On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 22:52:34 -, Phill Whiteside   
wrote:



And people say I can be straight to the point :P

I've no idea how big a job it would be for pcman, but there have been a
couple of times this has popped its head up. We have to accept that  
people

are coming over from Win / Mac environments, and easing the transition is
some thing we need to be aware of. If it could be added to the  
"wish-list"

at least we can let people know that they are not being ignored and when
time allows it will be looked into. I appreciate that there are far more
important tasks that need to be carried out before we get to the
"wish-list".

To be honest the, helping Windows/Mac users line of reasoning doesn’t  
really wash with me. It’s NOT Windows/OSX, so it can and should be  
different.  Having said that I’m not opposed to a working desktop Rubbish  
Bin or even a Panel Applet.  I have carried out a basic bit of market  
research, on the Ubuntu-UK mailing-list and the answer there was 'meh',   
Nobody had any strong views as such.  I just think there seems to be an  
awful lot of time and energy being expended on a rather trivial matter.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 1 Aministrative password wrong

2010-12-05 Thread Steve
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 22:08:48 -, Andrew Woodhead  
 wrote:
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Steve   
wrote:


Just got Natty Alpha 1 installed and when I try to start any program  
that requires my password the response is 'Incorrect password... try  
again.'

 Clearly the password is correct as I wouldn’t be able to log in and it
works in a terminal.


Try running:

passwd

and set it to something new to test


No change I’m afraid.
Users and Groups, along with Disk Utility accept the password but,  
Synaptic and Update manager don’t.  So my original message about 'any  
program' was wrong.



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[Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 1 Aministrative password wrong

2010-12-05 Thread Steve
Just got Natty Alpha 1 installed and when I try to start any program that  
requires my password the response is 'Incorrect password... try again.'   
Clearly the password is correct as I wouldn’t be able to log in and it  
works in a terminal.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Ace of Penguin not showing cards

2010-12-05 Thread Steve
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 20:41:33 -, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Le dimanche 05 décembre 2010 à 20:17 +, Steve a écrit :

Just installed Ace of Penguin on Lubuntu 10.04, derived from the
mini.iso.  When it is started only a green square appears, no cards are
displayed.  Is there something else to install? or some setting I’m
missing?


No, it's broken on 10.04. Only the version in 10.10 is working.

Thanks, I should of remembered as I tried it when we were discussing games  
for Lucid.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Ace of Penguin not showing cards

2010-12-05 Thread Steve
Just installed Ace of Penguin on Lubuntu 10.04, derived from the  
mini.iso.  When it is started only a green square appears, no cards are  
displayed.  Is there something else to install? or some setting I’m  
missing?



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[Lubuntu-desktop] Thoughts on installation

2010-07-17 Thread Steve
A couple of thoughts I had while installing Lubuntu for somebody today.  Could 
the screensaver be disabled during install, this is an incredible waste of 
computing power on an old machine which takes quite some time for the install 
to complete.  
Would it be possible to 'seed' some web addresses into the Chromium Bookmark 
Bar.  Such as lubuntu.net and ubuntuforum.org.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Desktop settings not sticking between boots - Maverick

2010-07-17 Thread Steve
/home/steve/.config/pcmanfm/lubuntu.conf is not getting written to by desktop 
settings. 
Right-click on desktop and select desktop settings.  Change the background or 
any other setting and log-out and back in, the settings revert to previous 
settings.  If the above file is manually edited all is OK

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Artwork from Raphael available for testing

2010-07-17 Thread Steve
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 18:19:41 +0200
Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> For people using maverick and lubuntu-desktop PPA, a new artwork made by
> Raphael [1] is available. You need to upgrade lubuntu-default-settings
> and lubuntu-artwork packages.
> 
> If you don't modified your theme settings, you should see the change
> after a reboot.
> 
> If you already tweaked your artwork settings, you can create a new user
> and login with it. You can also remove your settings for openbox,
> lxsession and lxpanel by removing ~.config/lxsession/desktop.conf,
> ~.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml, and
> ~.config/lxpanel/Lubuntu/panels/panel and reboot after.
> 
> Comments are welcome :-)
> 
Not bad at all apart from one thing, the bar along the bottom of the login 
screen is now double height.  Is this supposed to be the case?


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Grub Install Bug @Lubuntu-10.04 (Distribution Release)

2010-06-29 Thread Steve

On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 16:13:33 +0100, Goh Lip  wrote:




ps: It has been mentioned before, but may I suggest the administrator of  
this mailing list add a mechanism so that replies of messages will  
automatically send to 'lubuntu-desk...@launchpad.net' rather than to the  
author? Something along the line of 'reply-to'?   Thanks.



I agree, as not all mail clients have a 'reply-to-list' option, and even  
those that do don’t always spot the list address.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Chromium & Flash

2010-06-28 Thread Steve
On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 08:33 -0400, Bob Trevithick wrote: 
> If for some reason Chromium doesn't pick up the copy of the plugin in
> the mozilla directory, maybe making a symbolic link would be a better
> option?  That way any updates would automatically be applied to
> Chromium's version, and there's less disk wasted?  --Bob
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Chow Loong Jin  wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:19:17 +0100
> > Andrew Woodhead  wrote:
> >
> >> Just copy it to /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins
> >
> > And run chromium-browser with --enable-plugins. (Unless I'm outdated
> > and it's enabled by default now).
> >
> > --
> > Kind regards,
> > Chow Loong Jin
> >
Unless I’m missing something, all I did was ensure the Partner
Repository was enabled and did an 'apt-get adobe-flashplugin'. Start
Chromium and flash functions OK.  This was on a clean Lucid install.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] LXAdmin, a collection of little applications to manage settings on LXDE

2010-06-28 Thread Steve
On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 18:40 +0200, Julien Lavergne wrote: 
> Le dimanche 27 juin 2010 à 17:04 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit :
> > Am I missing something here or should there be a new entry, or two, in
> > the menu?
> 
> I forgot to mention, each application is separate in a different deb.
> lxadmin is only the commons files :
> 
> lxadmin common files for lxadmin utilities
> lxcc utility to start various configuration tools
> lxdmconf utility to change lxdm options
> lxfontconfig utility to change font options
> lxkeyboardconf utility to change keyboard layout
> lxproxy utility to change proxy options
> lxscreenshot utility to take screenshot
> lxservices utility to manage services
> openbox-keyconf utility to change openbox keyboard configuration
> 
> Maybe I'll change the name of the packages, and make lxadmin a
> meta-package to install all the utilities.
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
Thanks, makes sense now.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu gtk

2010-06-20 Thread Steve
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 16:32:18 +0100, 神癒礁湖  · Rafael Laguna  
 wrote:



There's a "bug" in the Openbox theme. Incredible, ut it makes windows
flicker

DON'T USE IT!!


Now you say! :)


And it's ok, Goh Lip, cannot find the right taste for everyone. Don't
worry, :)

I rather like the purple wallpaper, sadly it clashes with every thing else  
and makes everything look rather odd.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu gtk

2010-06-20 Thread Steve
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 14:21 +0200, 神癒礁湖 · Rafael Laguna wrote:
> Hello boys and girls!
> 
> I'm developing a GTK theme for the new Lubuntu. I need testers and
> opinions. There a few bugs in some colours. If you'd like to have it a
> look...
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Maverick/LxDesign
> 
> Thank you.
>
Installed the theme on maverick. obconf now seg faults and widows jump
about for a while after an application is opened.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 1

2010-06-15 Thread Steve
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:29 +0200, Julien Lavergne wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I just generated the first alpha of Lubuntu Maverick. Like other Alpha
> 1, you should be aware of those warnings :
> 
> "Pre-releases of Maverick are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a
> stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and
> those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
> 
> We are still very early in the development, so don't expect many
> improvements and too much stability.
> 
> For new stuff, there is a sync process with Debian packages, and updates
> of the core Ubuntu packages. For now, nothing really new for Lubuntu
> specific.
> 
> How to report bugs :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
> 
> Torrent:
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso.torrent
> Download: 
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso
> Md5sum:
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
Anybody able to get the ISO to work


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 1

2010-06-15 Thread Steve
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:29 +0200, Julien Lavergne wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I just generated the first alpha of Lubuntu Maverick. Like other Alpha
> 1, you should be aware of those warnings :
> 
> "Pre-releases of Maverick are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a
> stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and
> those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
> 
> We are still very early in the development, so don't expect many
> improvements and too much stability.
> 
> For new stuff, there is a sync process with Debian packages, and updates
> of the core Ubuntu packages. For now, nothing really new for Lubuntu
> specific.
> 
> How to report bugs :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
> 
> Torrent:
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso.torrent
> Download: 
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso
> Md5sum:
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
Anybody able to get the ISO to work


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 1

2010-06-15 Thread Steve
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:29 +0200, Julien Lavergne wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I just generated the first alpha of Lubuntu Maverick. Like other Alpha
> 1, you should be aware of those warnings :
> 
> "Pre-releases of Maverick are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a
> stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and
> those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
> 
> We are still very early in the development, so don't expect many
> improvements and too much stability.
> 
> For new stuff, there is a sync process with Debian packages, and updates
> of the core Ubuntu packages. For now, nothing really new for Lubuntu
> specific.
> 
> How to report bugs :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
> 
> Torrent:
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso.torrent
> Download: 
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso
> Md5sum:
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
Anybody able to get the ISO to work


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 1

2010-06-14 Thread Steve
On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 08:18 -0400, Bob Trevithick wrote: 
> It works fine here with that one exception of having to use
> "nomodeset" to get it to boot.
> 
> Well, I should qualify this with, I installed it last night around
> 2am, used it for an hour or so, and then went to sleep. :)  This
> morning I'm cleaning it up, customizing it to be my main distro unless
> something unforeseen happens.  But it's an alpha.. so what could go
> wrong? :)
> 
> Thanks folks.. this is really nice!  I'm using it as I type this.
> 
> Let me know if I can do anything to assist with diagnosis of the iso...
> 
The 'nomodeset' option was the first thing I tried, no luck.
I have since tried with an i810 and a nVidia 440, both of which work
with the 'nomdeset' option.  The cards that don’t work, so far,  are:-

Matrox G200
Intel 1740
nVidia RIVA 128
ATI Rage Pro
SiS 740
Cirrix V641

All of which work under 10.04.  This is going to be a bit of a problem,
as these are all common video adapters in older machines.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 1

2010-06-14 Thread Steve
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:29 +0200, Julien Lavergne wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I just generated the first alpha of Lubuntu Maverick. Like other Alpha
> 1, you should be aware of those warnings :
> 
> "Pre-releases of Maverick are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a
> stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and
> those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
> 
> We are still very early in the development, so don't expect many
> improvements and too much stability.
> 
> For new stuff, there is a sync process with Debian packages, and updates
> of the core Ubuntu packages. For now, nothing really new for Lubuntu
> specific.
> 
> How to report bugs :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
> 
> Torrent:
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso.torrent
> Download: 
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso
> Md5sum:
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
Anybody able to get the ISO to work


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Maverick Alpha 1

2010-06-14 Thread Steve
On Sun, 2010-06-13 at 23:29 +0200, Julien Lavergne wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I just generated the first alpha of Lubuntu Maverick. Like other Alpha
> 1, you should be aware of those warnings :
> 
> "Pre-releases of Maverick are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a
> stable
> system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
> frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
> and
> those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs."
> 
> We are still very early in the development, so don't expect many
> improvements and too much stability.
> 
> For new stuff, there is a sync process with Debian packages, and updates
> of the core Ubuntu packages. For now, nothing really new for Lubuntu
> specific.
> 
> How to report bugs :
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/ReportingBugs
> 
> Torrent:
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso.torrent
> Download: 
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-maverick-alpha1.iso
> Md5sum:
> http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
> 
Can’t get the ISO to install.
The MD5 hash is OK but, the check disk option tells me there is an error
in 1 file.
Any attempt to use/install results in the Lubuntu flashing dots screen
and then nothing.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Compiz activation

2010-06-12 Thread Steve
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 00:17:36 +0100, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:



Hi Steve,

As i am learning,

any further instructions would be welcome :-)

I'd like to add it the 'daft things to do with lubuntu' section ;-)




Compiz and it’s associated bits & pieces will have to be installed and  
does the video card and driver support compiz.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Compiz activation

2010-06-11 Thread Steve
On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:24:15 +0100, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:



A man of few words, :-)
Is it worth an entry onto the Wiki page and would 'Advanced' be the  
correct

area for it?

Regards,

Phill.

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:13 AM, PCMan  wrote:


1. Open lxsession-edit.
2. Switch to Advanced page.
3. Change your window manager to compiz.
4. Logout and login again
done
What's the problem?


I think there’s a bit more to it than that :)


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] help for mouse use

2010-06-10 Thread Steve
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:40:41 +0100, paolo liut   
wrote:



I have the black pointer of my mouse that I cannot see in terminal mode(
black on black).
I am going to change this situation: anyone can help me!
Thank u
Paolo

Not sure what’s happening with your system, as mine has a white outline on  
the pointer when it moves into the terminal, or anywhere that has a dark  
background.
One solution would be to have a white background in the terminal, as I  
normally do.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Change the goals of PCManFM 1.0

2010-06-10 Thread Steve
On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 13:32 +0800, PCMan wrote: 
> Another option might be release 1.0 with current feature set, but
> create a branch for 1.5 and do the development in parallel, just like
> what Firefox has done in the past. Then both the stable branch and the
> development 1.5 branch can have releases. So users who requires new
> features can ship the 1.5.x version. Maybe this is a better idea, and
> this can be documented in the release note of 1.0.
> 
This appears to be the best option to me. This would give a stable and
functional version and one to 'mess about' with, as 'tree view' and
search are just nice extras that most people can function with out.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu.net Download link

2010-06-07 Thread Steve
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:42:14 +0100, Mario Behling   
wrote:



Hi,

I changed one of the links at "get lubuntu". The download links that
were used before still work. Might have been a temporary problem. I do
not know. If no, please let me know, where exactly are the links that
do not work.

Thanks,

Mario


Top right link 'get lubuntu' on the front page of http://lubuntu.net goes  
to http://lubuntu.net/get%20lubuntu


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Critical Adobe Security Flaws

2010-06-07 Thread Steve


Don’t know if you’ve seen this but might be worth checking which version  
you’re using


www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa1-01.html


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installing Lubuntu on software RAID

2010-06-06 Thread Steve
On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 19:08:50 +0100, Dooitze de Jong  
 wrote:



Why do we have to enable the lubuntu ppa???

Regards

2010/6/2 Federico Fanton 


On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 22:06:17 +0100
Steve  wrote:

> The easist/safest way, is to use the Ubuntu alternative ISO to set up
RAID
> and install Ubuntu minimal.  The enable the Lubuntu-Desktop PPA and
> install lubuntu-desktop.  This worked for me anyway :)

I followed your advice, thanks!


Because, for the current version of Lubuntu, the latest versions of  
lubuntu-desktop, PCManFM, libfm, etc. are in there and not in the  
repositories so you’ll end up with a rather outdated version.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] unsubscribe

2010-06-06 Thread Steve

On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 13:21:57 +0100, Bob  wrote:


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Java/IcedTea not working in Chromium

2010-06-06 Thread Steve

On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 12:52:48 +0100, Carsten Agger  wrote:


søn, 06 06 2010 kl. 12:11 +0100, skrev Andrew Woodhead:



Personally I use the .bin file from www.java.com as all the systems
I'd need java on are 64bit. I then symlink the libnpjp2.so to the
plugins folder and it works.




Hmm, at any rate it seems sun-java6-plugin is no longer in the
repositories for lucid :-(


You have to enable the partner repository


Maybe I really should try an alternative to Chromium. Anyone has the
default/IcedTea Java working in Chromium?

br
Carsten






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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Java/IcedTea not working in Chromium

2010-06-06 Thread Steve

On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:33:02 +0100, Carsten Agger  wrote:


On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 04:22:58 -0400
 > Try checking "about:plugins" in Chromium, and see if your Java  
plugin's

being
detected by Chromium. Chances are that it wasn't installed properly  
though

(check update-alternatives --display mozilla-javaplugin.so, and that the
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so link isn't broken).



The Java plugin is NOT detected in about:plugins, only Flash and  
Schockwave.


The installation seems to be fine according to your instructions, tho:

--

ag...@urvashi:~/Work$ update-alternatives --display mozilla-javaplugin.so
mozilla-javaplugin.so - auto mode
 lænken peger for øjeblikket på
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so - prioritet  
1061

Den bedste aktuelle version er
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so.
ag...@urvashi:~/Work$ ls /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
flashplugin-alternative.so  libjavaplugin.so


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Maybe install another JVM? But this is supposed to work fine, I should  
think?


It should work fine but, I’ve never got it to work. I always install  
sun-java6-plugin



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ..will remove lubuntu-desktop

2010-06-05 Thread Steve
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:22:29 +0100, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:



Hi,





I also put a quick note to say the a1 of lubuntu 10.10 is delayed at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#Get
Lubuntu


It’s not delayed! It has been rescheduled :)


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?

2010-06-05 Thread Steve
On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 04:04:49 +0100, Bob Trevithick  
 wrote:



On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:51 PM, PCMan  wrote:




3. If a program runs well in 32-bit OS, but fail to run in 64-bit one,
this is not an architecture problem. It's a bug. Please report it
instead of complain of 64-bit.


One example I found when playing with the Mini CD 64-bit install is
that NetworkManager Applet 0.8 doesn't work correctly in 64-bit.  The
eth0 connection itself works, but the applet reports there are no
network connections at all.  It also doesn't display it's icon in the
panel, although right-clicking on the space where it should be shows
it's actually there.

I'm guessing this is the sort of thing you're referring to, and which
should be reported as a bug?

Probably not, as this problem occurs with the 32 bit system as well. I had  
this problem on one system which disappeared after an upgrade at some  
point. However, the upgrade caused another system to start displaying the  
problem.


As for the 32/64 bit argument, I think a compromise is needed. I propose a  
48bit system:P



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] modem-manager

2010-06-04 Thread Steve

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:15:47 +0100, Max  wrote:

please add modem-manager to lubuntu-desktop meta-package in future  
releases.

for netbooks is a necessary software.

thanx

max franco


Good idea Max, I was surprised to find it wasn’t already installed.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] NumLock

2010-06-03 Thread Steve

On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 20:46:44 +0100, Goh Lip  wrote:



I've been trying to find out how to set NumLock upon startup.
system is lucid 10.04.

Can someone help?
Thanks.

Regards -Goh Lip



Try numlockx


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?

2010-06-02 Thread Steve
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:54:31 +0100, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:



Hi Bob,

thanks for getting back, you are still the first one to confirm it works.
The apt-get dist-upgrade could well be a bit of over-kill, but I'd  
rather it

spend a few moments working out all is well in the world than miss it out
and find out it is needed in certain circumstances :-)

What, with Yorvyk having a method to run lubuntu with RAID, this 'little,
low resource for older computers' version of the Ubuntu family is  
certainly living up to my saying that although it is a low resource  
version, it is in no way a crippled one.


My RAID array is made up of 6 1.74GB HDDs for a total of 7.6GB, plus a  
600MB HDD for boot and swap.  Hardly worth it really but a good use for  
half a dozen old drives I had lying about. Better than them ending up in  
landfill.





Regards,

Phill.
P.S. I'd just like to add that I do appreciate the small team cannot  
support

people doing such 'odd' things to lubuntu, but you can all congratulate
yourselves on making one heck of a release.








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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?

2010-06-02 Thread Steve
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 22:10:49 +0100, Bob Trevithick  
 wrote:


On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:

Hi Bob,
thanks for getting back, you are still the first one to confirm it  
works.
The apt-get dist-upgrade could well be a bit of over-kill, but I'd  
rather it
spend a few moments working out all is well in the world than miss it  
out

and find out it is needed in certain circumstances :-)


Hi Phill,

My only concern about the dist-upgrade is that, well, somebody might
not *want* to do a distribution upgrade. :-)  They might inadvertently
do one because they think this one command is essential.  Or maybe I
just misunderstand the command myself?

I'm thinking that someone might be building their system based on
10.04, and 10.10 might be lurking and ready to pounce on them if they
issue this command?  Just thinking out loud. ;-)

That won’t happen as you need the '-d' option to go to another version.   
The only difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade, is that dist-upgrade  
can, and will, delete files if there is a conflict of some sort.



Yes, it's a lovely distro!  I never boot anything else now.  I'm sure
I'm going to remove Ubuntu Gnome from my system, as it just sits there
now taking up space.  I really never go into it for anything.
Lubuntu, with a bit of idiosyncratic massaging on my part, is exactly
what I've been looking for.

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Installing Lubuntu on software RAID

2010-06-01 Thread Steve
On Tue, 01 Jun 2010 21:34:11 +0100, Federico Fanton   
wrote:



Hi everyone!
I'm trying to install Lubuntu but I can't find a way to configure  
software RAID.. Should I do it by hand before running the installation?

(that is, "sudo apt-get install mdadm", "mdadm -A etc etc"..)
Or is it better to avoid this completely (because it's untested or  
whatever) and install a "normal" Ubuntu followed by LXDE?


Many thanks for your time, and Lubuntu too of course :)

The easist/safest way, is to use the Ubuntu alternative ISO to set up RAID  
and install Ubuntu minimal.  The enable the Lubuntu-Desktop PPA and  
install lubuntu-desktop.  This worked for me anyway :)


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Removing - pyNeighborhood

2010-05-31 Thread Steve
Despite it’s best intentions pyNeighborhood hasn’t proved quite as useful  
as it appears, so really, it’s loss will not be noticed too much.



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[Lubuntu-desktop] Removing - parcelite

2010-05-31 Thread Steve

I rarely find parcelite adds anything of use, so for me it can go.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] great lubuntu with problem

2010-05-28 Thread Steve
On Fri, 28 May 2010 16:15:32 +0100, 神癒礁湖  · Rafael Laguna  
 wrote:



Jockey GTK is not polished in Lubuntu yet, even in Ubuntu doesn't work
very nice, so it's not really our problem. If you have a nVidia and want
to use the new Nouveau drivers, please, check this article, it's a
command line given help to install and test it and make it working with
Plymouth (it worked for me).








I see no link :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Roadmap for Lubuntu 10.10 and UDS

2010-05-05 Thread Steve
On Wed, 05 May 2010 19:34:19 +0100, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Le mardi 04 mai 2010 à 23:48 +0100, Phillip Whiteside a écrit :

Backups... yeah, well, I'm sure that we instinctively carry them out,
but


We could look at it. Do you have some candidates solution for this ?

I also forgot a task about the content of default applications :
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-maverick-seed
But I hope it will be minimal, to have more time to fix bugs.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


I recieved this on the osmo mailing list


gtkhtml2 has been abandoned upstream a few years ago and will be
removed from the debian archives within the next few weeks (probably
other distros will follow soon).

see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=580017

I was told:

"... the packages have to be migrated to another HTML
rendering engine. There is gtkhtml3 of course, and now there is
webkit, which is superior in terms of features and not too far from
libgtkhtml2 in terms of API.

I suggest that you migrate osmo as soon as possible to use webkit for
rendering. For most packages, which use libgtkhtml2 in a simple way,
porting should be trivial."

Do you have any plans to migrate to webkit? Preparations for the next
debian release will start in the beginning of June and it would be a
pity to have the contacts feature disabled completely because of this...

Not sure how it will effect Lubuntu as there has been no response, yet.  I  
wouldn’t like to loose osmo as I’ve found it to be rather useful, I’ve  
added it to my Ubuntu install as well.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Re: Installed Lubuntu 5 days ago for testing

2010-05-05 Thread Steve



--- Forwarded message ---
From: "Ioannis Vranos" 
To: "Ubuntu user technical support, not for general discussions"  


Cc:
Subject: Re: Installed Lubuntu  5 days ago for testing
Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 20:23:00 +0100

On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 14:18 -0500, Johnny wrote:

Hi
I installed Lubuntu
the computer
Processor  AMD K6-2
Memory 256 mb
HD 10G
The video card was detected no problem

The sound card was detected ( when playing mp3 sound skips ) Looked at
Aqualung web site did some read in the document, all I had to do was
from the command line was $aqualung --output oss
fixed that from skipping when playing mp3's

Problem with icons on the desktop when single clicked the app come up or
double clicked 3 to 4 apps comes up

Problem with the lxpanel the app icons when single clicked there is 3 to
4 apps comes up
at the same time

Installed gnome-commander when single click a folder it automatic thanks
you double clicked it and for files when single clicked it opens
automatically with Abiword I want to choose what app to use for that

Installed took about 4 hours from Graphic install thru live CD
no error detected on install

In all for Lubuntu it runs a little slow
I have Debian Lenny LXDE installed on another computer the CPU 450 Ram
256 it runs a lot faster

I am still testing Lubuntu

Please send this to the Lubuntu team if you would please.

Johnny





Myself tested Lubuntu, both final release and some Beta, however I found
an issue with passwords to both. When I entered a two word parssword
during installation, it did not work, while it worked with a single word
password.


I did not check to see how things worked with other passwords, I deleted
the installations.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Bug reporting

2010-05-05 Thread Steve
On Wed, 05 May 2010 14:19:08 +0100, Keith Clark  
 wrote:


Hi Keith


First off, congratulations on your first full release!  Very nicely done
and I look forward to a long future with this OS.

Now on to more of a problem.  My system (Compaq R4000, AMD 64 3500+/1 GB
RAM/Broacom 4318 wireless/ATI Xpress 200m video) goes into suspend just
fine.  The problem is resuming.

Sometimes all goes well and it powers back up and re-connects to my
wireless connection with no issues at all.

Other times it powers up fine, reconnects but I cannot see my cursor.  I
can still move my "invisible cursor" around and do things.

Other times, it resumes to the screen saver.  Sits for a few seconds and
then powers down with the power light flashing.  I hit the power button
and it resumes just fine (sometimes the cursor is invisible though).

I'm not sure how to report this bug in launchpad.  It seems to want to
alway attach a package to the problem and I'm not sure what package this
should go to!

Thanks.

Have a read through the following  
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelSuspendHibernateResume  it may help.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Roadmap for Lubuntu 10.10 and UDS

2010-05-04 Thread Steve
On Tue, 04 May 2010 00:01:39 +0100, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Hi,

UDS (the Ubuntu developers submit) will take place in Bruxelles
(Belgium) between 10 and 14 May [1]. To prepare it, I began to write
some blueprints and goals I would like to achieve for the next release.
You can see the (kind of) "Roadmap" on the wiki :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers#Maverick

Goal n°1 will be to be accepted as an official flavor. My personal goal
will be to sync packaging with Debian. But we can set others goals for
the next release :-)

If you have other ideas or wishes, feel free to reply to the mailing
list, or go/connect to the UDS to discuss them :) Any feedbacks from
users will be appreciate :-)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

[1] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS-M


Apart from the things you’ve already mentioned I’d like to see some more  
system documentation.  What config files do what/where, etc.


I’m in Belgium UDS week and will try to pop in for a couple for days, If I  
find you I’ll buy you a drink :D


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net membership

2010-05-04 Thread Steve
On Mon, 03 May 2010 13:57:52 +0100, Mario Behling   
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Hi Yorvyk,

we have not configured lubuntu.net for public use yet.

What kind of community features would you like to see? What do you
want to do on lubuntu.net?

- Mario


A Goh Lip pointed out in another post it would be useful to login to allow  
a name against comments




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lose mouse and monitor setting after reboot or log-out in 10.04

2010-05-03 Thread Steve

On Mon, 03 May 2010 19:20:08 +0100,  wrote:


Good afternoon (here),

I have one issue that I hope someone can kindly point me in the right
direction to. While everything is working fine in my Lubuntu desktop,
after I reboot, power back up, or log back in I lost the settings for my
mouse (I'm left handed) and my monitor's LCD Hz setting (@67Hz). I can
manually change them back and all is well. Other desktops I've worked
with (XFCE, Gnome) don't exhibit this problem but I was wondering if
there's a way I could put this into some configuration file so I won't
have to keep doing this every time. It's not a show stopper but it is a
PITA.

Best regards!

See https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxinput/+bug/563530 for  
a solution to your mouse problem.  Still working on the display settings.   
Hope this helps for now.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net membership

2010-05-03 Thread Steve
On Mon, 03 May 2010 13:57:52 +0100, Mario Behling   
wrote:



Hi Yorvyk,

we have not configured lubuntu.net for public use yet.

What kind of community features would you like to see? What do you
want to do on lubuntu.net?

- Mario


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Steve   
wrote:


Back in March I attempted to create a User Logon for lubuntu.net and
received an email:


Yorvyk,

Thank you for registering at lubuntu. Your application for an account is
currently pending approval. Once it has been approved, you will receive
another e-mail containing information about how to log in, set your
password, and other details.


--  lubuntu team

I never received the above mentioned email and there for can’t login  
etc.



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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu.net membership

2010-05-03 Thread Steve


Back in March I attempted to create a User Logon for lubuntu.net and  
received an email:



Yorvyk,

Thank you for registering at lubuntu. Your application for an account is  
currently pending approval. Once it has been approved, you will receive  
another e-mail containing information about how to log in, set your  
password, and other details.



--  lubuntu team

I never received the above mentioned email and there for can’t login etc.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Congratulations

2010-05-03 Thread Steve
Congratulations to everybody involved in getting Lubuntu to a 'Final'
release.  Plenty of people downloading via torrent. Lets hope it
attracts a few more helpers.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] A couple of thoughts from a chat

2010-05-02 Thread Steve
On Sun, 02 May 2010 12:00:14 +0100, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:



Hi,





(11:20:08) >>: I think lubuntu should use guayadeque :)
(11:21:19) phillw: i had no problems with aqualung, but i only play music
from my hard-disk (I like my own music collection)
(11:22:27) >>: so do I - but still what is with all that music store  
stuff -
not very intuitive in my opinion - especially as people will likely be  
used

to other medi apps
(11:24:57) phillw: things like music player would just have been a case  
of

find an app that doesn't drag in 1/2 the gnome library with it ;-)
(11:25:39) >>: shame that they found that one :) I still say it is  
rubbish

to setup ... imho of course
(11:26:13) phillw: is guayadeque any good?
(11:26:59) phillw: and 'small'?
(11:27:01) >>: I like it - it is in constant dev at the moment though
(11:27:37) >>: I think it is quiet small - the guy developing it would be
easy to talk too
(11:27:58) >>: I know it is only using 23Mb of memory here
(11:30:19) >>: http://i.imgur.com/kxovk.png
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1380811



Sadly, like  most music players it is cluttered with with irrelevant  
rubbish. A music player should play music.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum

2010-04-28 Thread Steve

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 10:32:05 +0100, Goh Lip  wrote:


On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 22:55:25 +0100
Phill Whiteside  wrote:

Personally, I'd prefer the lubuntu tag rather than us being hidden
away in some dark corner of the forum, it will encourage people to
read about lubuntu & hopefully try it out. As always, your views on
the two options are needed.


Perhaps 2 small technical points about this mailing list itself.

Could something be done so that all replies are directed back to this
mailing list rather than to the sender if the sender (inadvertently)
sends as 'cc' rather than 'to' ? (as what's being done in the ubuntu
and kubuntu mailing list)

I’m with Goh on the one, the Reply To should be the list, I forget to  
check occasionally and have to resend a separate mail to the list. If we  
do attract new users to the list it will cause a bit of confusion.



Also can this mailing list be 'ported' or 'mirrored' to the gmane
newsgroup too?

Lastly, but I think more importantly, the exposure and 'market recall',
no.even just knowing about 'Lubuntu' is low.  Not many people have
heard of it, even the ubuntu users themselves and that's a shame.

I understand Lubuntu is not 'officially' part of ubuntu yet, (just a
part of launchpad?) and that's perhaps the reason we cannot be too
'overt' about this, but could you share with us the framework that
needs to be done to achieve this? Who knows, some of us here, besides
being good designers and techies are good in marketing and pr too? (but
I hope not in office politics and corporate shenaniganism  :) )

Thanks, regards - Goh Lip

I don’t think Lubuntu is doing badly for publicity as it’s currently 37th  
on distrowatch.com and heading back up


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] main ubuntu forum

2010-04-28 Thread Steve
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:37:04 +0100, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Le mardi 27 avril 2010 à 22:55 +0100, Phill Whiteside a écrit :


1) A Lubuntu 'tag' much the same as the xubuntu / kubuntu etc. tags
work
2) A separate sub-forum.


+1 for 1) :)

While not a fan of forums if the tag option puts Lubuntu on the same level  
as K/Xubuntu then that’s the option to go for.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Keyboard weirdness, Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 - very fringe case

2010-04-27 Thread Steve
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:43:59 +0100, C David Rigby  
 wrote:



Hello all,

I've spotted what appears to be a bug in the installer that can be run  
from the Live CD desktop environment if one chooses "Try Lubuntu without  
installing" from the main menu. Or the problem could be in the desktop  
environment itself. It is such a fringe case, though, that I am not sure  
if it is worth pursuing. It is 100% reproducible on this hardware.


The system is one I have scraped together while I am stuck in Italy. I  
plan to use it for testing, as I have a more powerful laptop at my  
disposal. The system is a home built PC based on a 440BX motherboard,  
and it has a French keyboard.


To produce the error:


1. Boot the Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 Live CD
2. Accept the default language, English, from the boot menu
3. Press F3 and select "France" for the keymap
4. Choose the "Try Lubuntu without installing" from the primary boot menu
5. At the desktop, start the installer
6. On the keyboard selection screen of the installer (step 3) the  
installer guesses "France - Alternative"

7. Press the radio button for "Choose your own"
8. Select "France" from the right-hand window list
9. Try typing text in the test field; the keyboard produces no output
10. Open leafpad or LXTerminal; still no output from the keyboard
11. Quit the installer and restart the system from the "Logoff" menu  
item; the CD ejects, but the system does not restart.


Later steps in installation will require the keyboard, I assume, so at  
this point installation has failed.


Note: if leafpad or LXTerminal is used prior to starting the installer,  
then the problem does not occur. Text appears in these apps. Once the  
installer is started, text appears in the test field of step 3,

Workaround:

1. Do not use F3 to choose a keymap; or
2. Open leafpad or another text-input app, type something, then start  
the installer.


So, is this important enough for a formal bug report? Should I try the  
Ubuntu Lucid Beta to see if the problem occurs there also?


Your comments appreciated,
David



There have been a couple of 'strange' language problems, involving French  
& English, noticed by Phillw and myself, on Beta 2.  I would try it with  
Ubuntu if you can, but I suspect it is the way the Lubuntu ISO is set up.   
I have reported a bug where all the languages (139) are installed to the  
hard drive. I think it is worth reporting anyway as anything that messes  
up the install could mean one less user.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Quicktime not working

2010-04-26 Thread Steve
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:22:24 +0100, Leszek Lesner   
wrote:



Am Sonntag, 25. April 2010 22:19:46 schrieb Steve:

Hosoka and myself have been trying to get Quicktime to work with no
success.  It works on Chromium with Ubuntu but not on Lubuntu.  We have
w32codecs installed along with restricted extras and the Chromium extra
package. Anybody any ideas?


Apple has changed the Quicktime sites (especially the trailers) to only  
accept
clients which are sending the right quicktime id (version string). I  
wrote a
little shell script to fix the quicktime support for zevenos a few weeks  
ago.
Its simply a call for mplayer + the right version string. So if you want  
to
play a quicktime trailer go to the trailers site, copy the link to the  
mov or
mp4 file, open up a terminal type in sh /path/to/script/quicktime and  
paste in
the url (sometimes you need to shorten out the width and heigths added  
after

the mov video url) . It works very well, also with the quicktime keynote
streams. (udp over http is enabled for them to work)
Ubuntu uses gstreamer and the totem plugin to make it work. Obviously  
they
included a patch for this. The mplayerplugin needs to be patched to make  
it

work again inside the browser. So not really a fix for now, just a work
around.


Thanks for that, I’ll have a play later.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Quicktime not working

2010-04-25 Thread Steve


Hosoka and myself have been trying to get Quicktime to work with no  
success.  It works on Chromium with Ubuntu but not on Lubuntu.  We have  
w32codecs installed along with restricted extras and the Chromium extra  
package. Anybody any ideas?


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Shortkeys have no funktion

2010-04-25 Thread Steve
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 19:00:30 +0100, Steve   
wrote:


On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:19:33 +0100, Moritz Birkefeld  
 wrote:



Hey dears,
on my Asus EEE PC 1005 HA-M the Shortkeys to make sound higher, lower
and off didn't ran.. same problem is by other shortkeys ... have anyone
same problem?


There’s a package available in the repos called something like  
eee/eeepc-control/script that sets up the hotkeys for some of the eeepc  
range.




Found it:)

It’s eeepc-acpi-scripts

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Shortkeys have no funktion

2010-04-25 Thread Steve
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:19:33 +0100, Moritz Birkefeld  
 wrote:



Hey dears,
on my Asus EEE PC 1005 HA-M the Shortkeys to make sound higher, lower
and off didn't ran.. same problem is by other shortkeys ... have anyone
same problem?


There’s a package available in the repos called something like  
eee/eeepc-control/script that sets up the hotkeys for some of the eeepc  
range.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] PCManFM 0.9.5 is going to be released (some strings are changed)

2010-04-25 Thread Steve
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 17:46:00 +0100, C David Rigby  
 wrote:



Steve wrote:



It had not occurred to me to offer to help with this aspect of
development, since I know only English well enough to use it
professionally (I know a smattering of Italian and French, but not
enough to be useful).

So, if someone wants to point me in the right direction, I'd be glad to
help with editing strings and such.

Cheers
David



http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Category:Translations




Thanks - I'll have a look. Cheers, David

I’m relatively new to translations but, if you need any help give me a  
shout and I’ll see what I can do.  What variation of English do you use?


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Is it acceptable to add even more new strings to PCManFM at this time?

2010-04-25 Thread Steve

On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 06:10:47 +0100, PCMan  wrote:


Hi list,
I found yet another issue with current PCManFM last night.
Names of some menu items are not self-explainatory enough.
It's not easy for beginners to figure out what the menu items do.
I just learned how to add tooltips for menu items and show them in  
status bar.

If we can add proper tooltips for menu items, this can greatly improve
usability.
I know we're in string freeze, but is it acceptable to add even more
new strings to PCManFM at this time?
The number of strings that needed to be added is about 30 ~ 40.
This is quite important for usability.
Since currently PCManFM is still in beta and its quality didn't meet
the requirements of a stable release, we won't have a stable release
or release candidate very soon. So we still have time to finish all
the translation prior to final release.

Opinions from translators?
If you guys allow me to do so, I'll add them later and inform you on
the mailing list when I've done it.
Otherwise, I'll leave them in a git branch. But I'm a little bit worry
about git branch because it doesn't seem to work well with some
translation systems and there might be conflicts in the future.
If these new strings are not going to be added this time, I'll release
pcmanfm 0.9.5 in about two days.

Anyways, I want to know what you think. So translations please share
your ideas with me.
Thanks!

Hmmm, I’d prefer 0.9.5 out as soon as possible and the tool tips added to  
the next version. This would gives us a reasonably bug free version for  
Lubuntu.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Beta 3

2010-04-24 Thread Steve
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 22:21:06 +0100, Steve   
wrote:




Installed and working :D  Forgot to time it but the installation process  
seemed to take a lot longer. Now to try and break it :)




Found out why it takes so long to install. 139 languages installed, don’t  
think that should happen.  I’ll file a bug.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 "Multi-Language"

2010-04-24 Thread Steve
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:13:43 +0100, Steve   
wrote:


On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:41:30 +0100, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Le samedi 24 avril 2010 à 17:59 +0200, Julien Lavergne a écrit :
Torrent:  
http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta3.iso.torrent


Seems that the .torrent refuse to work, so I include it in this mail.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



This doesn’t help, still permission denied.

Ignore this I’ve just spotted the attachment, although this isn’t going to  
help people that aren’t on this mailing list.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 "Multi-Language"

2010-04-24 Thread Steve
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:41:30 +0100, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Le samedi 24 avril 2010 à 17:59 +0200, Julien Lavergne a écrit :

Torrent: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta3.iso.torrent


Seems that the .torrent refuse to work, so I include it in this mail.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



This doesn’t help, still permission denied.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Beta 3

2010-04-24 Thread Steve


Installed and working :D  Forgot to time it but the installation process  
seemed to take a lot longer. Now to try and break it :)




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Screencasts

2010-04-24 Thread Steve
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:40:34 +0100, Leszek Lesner   
wrote:





Here a few new screencasts of Lubuntu showing some of the default apps  
in Lubuntu.
I intended to keep this screencasts short for the sake of beginners and  
switchers.
All the screencasts were created with free software and edited with  
OpenShot video editor.


http://blip.tv/rss/bookmarks/206798 (RSS Feed, needs a feedreader)
The Videos in the RSS Feed should also be downloadable with Aqualung.  
But it will download all of them :)



Have fun ;)

Leszek

Bit delayed in thanking you for these Screecasts. I have tried them with a  
couple of novice users and they thought they were great and a lot easier  
then trying to follow written instructions.  Thanks and well done.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 "Multi-Language"

2010-04-24 Thread Steve
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:16:59 +0100, 神癒礁湖  · Rafael Laguna  
 wrote:



Thanks to Julien Lavergne, a new Wiki page is open, about all artwork
from Lubuntu. I've included (right now) a section for marketing things.
It's being updated, and I'll upload more files in the next days. This
page is:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork

More items to come (web buttons, stickers, templates, posters, etc).
Stay tuned!

Sample items:



Bye! And thanks for your attention, I hope!  ;-)


First impressions are very good, and that’s what counts.

Thanks for the great work.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 "Multi-Language"

2010-04-24 Thread Steve

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:05:18 +0100, Goh Lip  wrote:


On 04/25/2010 02:36 AM, Steve wrote:

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:13:44 +0100, Goh Lip  wrote:




Er, pardon for asking, if I am missing the point...I notice many on
this thread are already on Lubuntu Lucid, not beta3, but beta2 or I
grant even earlier revisions; won't it be sufficient to just do an
update/upgrade? Why the need to download the whole iso?
Thanks, again. - Goh Lip


As most peoples first glimpse of Lubuntu will be from the Live CD and/or
a clean install we need to make sure this is working OK and this is the
first multi-lingual ISO so that will need testing as well. Also, some of
us have also sorts of odds 'n' sods on our installs and need a clean
install to make sure we are reporting errors for the correct versions
and any advice we give or instructions we are writing are for a default
install.


Okay, Understood. Since the only addition to my system, besides updates,  
is adobe flash, I think my updated system from beta2 fresh install would  
be similar to beta3 fresh install. I'll let pass the fresh install this  
time round. (I am enjoying myself too much too :) ) Will help to report  
bugs, if any, whatever way I can.


So far the slypheed notes have generated lots of correspondence on the  
slypheed mailing list (autofill address) long after I've reported it.  
(not a bug, a 'feature' :) ). I just hope I won't cause unnecessary  
'noise' due to my inexperience in Lubuntu too.


Thanks - Goh Lip

Any noise is welcome.  A lot of us have only 6 months experience of  
Lubuntu so any questions are going to be help us to get to know Lubuntu  
better.  Having seen the assistance you have given on the Ubuntu list I’m  
sure you will useful to have around.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 "Multi-Language"

2010-04-24 Thread Steve

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:13:44 +0100, Goh Lip  wrote:


On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 17:20:17 +0100
Steve  wrote:


I get the following error when I try to get the torrent file,
You don't have permission to access
/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta3.iso.torrent on this server.

Er, pardon for asking, if I am missing the point...I notice many on
this thread are already on Lubuntu Lucid, not beta3, but beta2 or I
grant even earlier revisions; won't it be sufficient to just do an
update/upgrade? Why the need to download the whole iso?
Thanks, again. - Goh Lip

As most peoples first glimpse of Lubuntu will be from the Live CD and/or a  
clean install we need to make sure this is working OK and this is the  
first multi-lingual ISO so that will need testing as well.  Also, some of  
us have also sorts of odds 'n' sods on our installs and need a clean  
install to make sure we are reporting errors for the correct versions and  
any advice we give or instructions we are writing are for a default  
install.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 "Multi-Language"

2010-04-24 Thread Steve
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:59:50 +0100, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Hi,

The Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 is now available. We are now close to the final
release, this beta should be the last one before final release.

The status of this final release is not determined yet ("beta stable",
"rc final" ...), that's why its a beta and not a rc like other *buntu.
However, final release is still planned for the end of this month, or in
very early May.

== New stuff since Beta 2 ==
* Many translations directly included.
* Lubuntu-desktop PPA added by default on installation.
* Up-to-date libfm and pcmanfm2.

== Specific Lubuntu changes ==
Lubuntu still contains modifications not available in the official
repository, you can see them in the Lubuntu PPA [1] :
- New pcmanfm2 and libfm (LP: #523433)
- lubuntu-default-settings with pcmanfm2 support
- Fix for blurry shutdown-icon from elementary-icons (LP: #527345)
- Autologin support in ubiquity (LP: #546445)


== Testing needed ==
I'll appreciate some feedbacks about the followings recent additions :
- pcmanfm2, the new filemanager, is still in beta state. Please report
bugs on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing


== Known bugs ==
* If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
you click on "Try Lubuntu ...". Just wait, it will continue as normal.
* Start menu of the Live-CD is not correctly translated.
* Updates available are not shown, you need to manually update your
system.
* See also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

== Reporting bugs ==
Bug reported during testing :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

If you want to create a bootable usb system, please use the usb creator
directly on Ubuntu.

Please follow the testing process described on this page :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam . You can also
report problems and bugs relative to the tests on this page.

Torrent: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta3.iso.torrent
Download: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta3.iso
Md5: http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/md5sum.txt

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

[1] :  https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa



I get the following error when I try to get the torrent file,
You don't have permission to access  
/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-beta3.iso.torrent on this server.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] multi screen support & docs

2010-04-24 Thread Steve
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 06:59:59 +0100, C David Rigby  
 wrote:



Julien Lavergne wrote:
Le vendredi 23 avril 2010 à 22:17 +0100, Phillip Whiteside a écrit :
 Not wishing to 'nag', but a descision on where people should post
support questions when there is not 'someone in'  IRC is pretty much
needed. As this is a Lubuntu project, and from earlier discussions it
was decided that it should be held else where other than on
[http://forum.phillw.net/viewforum.php?f=18 (you'd be more than
welcome to use it). But it would be good if there was somewhere for
them to ask questions & receive answers, i feel a bit 'bad' when I
post links up from there to help an OP and not a supported forum.
There is still the ubuntuforums. With many request, we can have a
lubuntu prefix for it IRC is also a solution, but it's useful only if  
there are people to

answer questions.
 Other solution is to ask for a dedicated forum on ubuntuforums, like
Mythbuntu (http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=46).
 Regards,
Julien Lavergne
I prefer this solution, & as mentioned elsewhere, a link to it from  
lubuntu.net, the wiki, etc.

 Cheers
David

If we can get a sub-forum on http://ubuntuforums.org/ then that is where  
it should be.  Who do we harass, beg, bribe, to get on there?


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Updater

2010-04-24 Thread Steve
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 07:46:07 +0100, Daniel Hallett  
 wrote:



I am wondering when the automatic updater will be coming to Lubuntu? I
am new to Lubuntu. I also would like to know where the Lubuntu forums
are.

Daniel Hallett aka Knux21



Currently there is a problem with the Update Manger under Lubuntu so  
automatic updates aren’t available.  The best bet, at the moment, is to  
use Synaptic Package Manager.


Preferences > Synaptic Package Manage

To upgrade click on Reload then Mark All Upgrades if the tick above Apply  
turns green there are updates, click Apply and follow the instructions.


If you want to use a Forum, rather than a mailing list, use the Ubuntu one

http://ubuntuforums.org/



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] multi screen support & docs

2010-04-22 Thread Steve
On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:44:05 +0100, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:



Hi,

I think that I goofed up on one of my how-to's, by saying support for the
vga socket on laptops is now part of the lubuntu installation. (via  
Grandr),
is lubuntu going to ship with either the RandR system / a different  
system /

no system? I do recall in IRC a suggestion of a different system, but my
test lubuntu system has had that many bits added to it I'm afraid I've  
lost

the plot a bit on that one :-(

RandR is installed GRandR (Multiple Screens) is just a GUI front end for  
it as is LXRandR (Monitor Settings)





Oh, and Lubuntu is looking really good - my thanks to all you good people
who have made it happen (and more thanks for those of you who tolerate my
lack of coding knowledge)

Regards,

Phill.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] translations

2010-04-20 Thread Steve
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:46:07 +0100, Steve   
wrote:



On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:02:27 +0100, Steve 



 Hi Steve,


as Mr "As the en_GB translation team I have no problem with an
exception."

I'd like to ask / point out a little 'funny' with the language  
packs.


Long story, cut short, was trying to help with language packs last  
night

and
as the only other language I know more than 2 words of is French  
(I know
about 10 words ;-) ) I put the French language pack onto my system  
and

popped it into 1st place, it dutifully went into French (So far, so
good). I
then moved English(GB) back to the top of the list, so that French  
was

in
2nd place and applied it, but my log in screen remained in French.  
It

was
only when I moved the French pack out of the active areas did I  
get it

back
into English. My guess is that there is not an en-GB for the front
screen
and it is defaulting to the 'catch all' English, if there is a 2nd
language
pack there then it is correctly using that as the next in order of
preference.

Regards,

Phill.

 The login screen is Ubuntu and I'm assured has been translated  
100%

into en_GB







I’ve been playing with this and there does seem to be some sort of  
problem with this on Lubuntu. Going to try on Ubuntu. Haven’t seen any  
bug reports about it though.




No problems in Ubuntu 10.04, so it appears to be a Lubuntu problem :(

It would appear some language setting isn’t getting set during the initial  
install (I think)
I uninstalled English then reinstalled it. With English as first choice  
and French as second I get know problems.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] translations

2010-04-19 Thread Steve
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:02:27 +0100, Steve   
wrote:


On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:06:23 +0100, Phillip Whiteside  
 wrote:



Hi Steve,

I finally got around to rebooting, it has gone back to french as the  
log-in
screen. Stays English for the desktop, so I'm guessing  the en-GB  
strings

are not in the log-in section

Regards,

Phill.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Phillip Whiteside  
wrote:



let me just put French into 2nd place and reboot


On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Phillip Whiteside  
wrote:



hi,

>> The login screen is Ubuntu and I'm assured has been translated 100%
into en_GB

try it ;-)

Phill.


On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Steve  
wrote:


On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:15:57 +0100, Phillip Whiteside  


wrote:

 Hi Steve,


as Mr "As the en_GB translation team I have no problem with an
exception."

I'd like to ask / point out a little 'funny' with the language  
packs.


Long story, cut short, was trying to help with language packs last  
night

and
as the only other language I know more than 2 words of is French (I  
know
about 10 words ;-) ) I put the French language pack onto my system  
and

popped it into 1st place, it dutifully went into French (So far, so
good). I
then moved English(GB) back to the top of the list, so that French  
was

in
2nd place and applied it, but my log in screen remained in French.  
It

was
only when I moved the French pack out of the active areas did I get  
it

back
into English. My guess is that there is not an en-GB for the front
screen
and it is defaulting to the 'catch all' English, if there is a 2nd
language
pack there then it is correctly using that as the next in order of
preference.

Regards,

Phill.

 The login screen is Ubuntu and I'm assured has been translated 100%

into en_GB







I’ve been playing with this and there does seem to be some sort of  
problem with this on Lubuntu. Going to try on Ubuntu. Haven’t seen any  
bug reports about it though.




No problems in Ubuntu 10.04, so it appears to be a Lubuntu problem :(

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CD cover and/or label.

2010-04-19 Thread Steve
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 23:35:41 +0100, 神癒礁湖  · Rafael Laguna  
 wrote:



-Missatge original-

De: Steve 
Per a: Lubuntu 
Assumpte: [Lubuntu-desktop] CD cover and/or label.
   Anybody with an artistic bent able to produce a CD cover and/or  
label for
Lubuntu.  I would like to take a few to Oggcamp to distribute. A  
poster

would also be nice :)
   http://www.oggcamp.org/



It's being developed right now :). We're finishing the marketing artwork  
and derivated graphics.

Stay tuned here, they'll be downloadable soon!



Wonderful, I’ll look forward to it :)


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[Lubuntu-desktop] CD cover and/or label.

2010-04-19 Thread Steve
Anybody with an artistic bent able to produce a CD cover and/or label for  
Lubuntu.  I would like to take a few to Oggcamp to distribute. A poster  
would also be nice :)


http://www.oggcamp.org/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] translations

2010-04-19 Thread Steve
On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:06:23 +0100, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:



Hi Steve,

I finally got around to rebooting, it has gone back to french as the  
log-in

screen. Stays English for the desktop, so I'm guessing  the en-GB strings
are not in the log-in section

Regards,

Phill.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Phillip Whiteside  
wrote:



let me just put French into 2nd place and reboot


On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Phillip Whiteside  
wrote:



hi,

>> The login screen is Ubuntu and I'm assured has been translated 100%
into en_GB

try it ;-)

Phill.


On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Steve  
wrote:


On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:15:57 +0100, Phillip Whiteside  


wrote:

 Hi Steve,


as Mr "As the en_GB translation team I have no problem with an
exception."

I'd like to ask / point out a little 'funny' with the language packs.

Long story, cut short, was trying to help with language packs last  
night

and
as the only other language I know more than 2 words of is French (I  
know
about 10 words ;-) ) I put the French language pack onto my system  
and

popped it into 1st place, it dutifully went into French (So far, so
good). I
then moved English(GB) back to the top of the list, so that French  
was

in
2nd place and applied it, but my log in screen remained in French. It
was
only when I moved the French pack out of the active areas did I get  
it

back
into English. My guess is that there is not an en-GB for the front
screen
and it is defaulting to the 'catch all' English, if there is a 2nd
language
pack there then it is correctly using that as the next in order of
preference.

Regards,

Phill.

 The login screen is Ubuntu and I'm assured has been translated 100%

into en_GB







I’ve been playing with this and there does seem to be some sort of problem  
with this on Lubuntu. Going to try on Ubuntu. Haven’t seen any bug reports  
about it though.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Lxde-list] Change of strings is required to fix pcmanfm/libfm bug: #2979567

2010-04-19 Thread Steve
On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 21:18:33 +0100, Nikolas Poniros   
wrote:



-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi all,

for what its worth I find the term "trash can" more suitable :)

cheers
Nikolas
PCMan wrote:

Hello,
The good news is I just fixed the selection problem in detailed list
view induced by new bug in gtk+ 2.18+ with simple workarounds so now
it works.
The bad one is some changes of strings is required to fix bug #2979567.

Sorry for the inconvenience for all of the translators, but this is
required since moving files to trash bin on remote filesystem is not
supported by gvfs. When a user does this, the files will be deleted
directly rather than being moved to trash bin. So a prompt telling the
user their files will be deleted directly is definitely needed.

Without this fix, files on remote filesystems cannot be deleted if
trash bin support is turned on and this is a severe usability bug. So
I'm requesting a string change here.

Another issue raised by brother is the terms "trash can" and "trash
bin". Those two terms are used interchangeably in libfm and pcmanfm.
However, only one of them should be used throughout the whole program
for better consistency. So I'm going to fix this, too. For native
English speakers, which term is more suitable?

Marty Jack, help from you is needed since you seem to be the only
native English speaker in our development team.

Thank you all and sorry for the inconvenience.

As was pointed out in another thread it just has to be consistent really,  
trash can seems to be most commonly used in the USA. I’ll just translate  
it to Rubbish Bin for en_GB, not sure what other English speaking nations  
use though.  Will it cause problems for other languages, does bin/can  
translate as the same thing.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] translations

2010-04-16 Thread Steve
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 22:15:57 +0100, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:



Hi Steve,

as Mr "As the en_GB translation team I have no problem with an  
exception."


I'd like to ask / point out a little 'funny' with the language packs.

Long story, cut short, was trying to help with language packs last night  
and

as the only other language I know more than 2 words of is French (I know
about 10 words ;-) ) I put the French language pack onto my system and
popped it into 1st place, it dutifully went into French (So far, so  
good). I

then moved English(GB) back to the top of the list, so that French was in
2nd place and applied it, but my log in screen remained in French. It was
only when I moved the French pack out of the active areas did I get it  
back

into English. My guess is that there is not an en-GB for the front screen
and it is defaulting to the 'catch all' English, if there is a 2nd  
language

pack there then it is correctly using that as the next in order of
preference.

Regards,

Phill.

The login screen is Ubuntu and I'm assured has been translated 100% into  
en_GB


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: memory leak

2010-04-16 Thread Steve
On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:41:27 +0100, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:


This is just LXTerminal open, no activity on my computer except it keeps  
the

WiFi connection open.

top - 12:07:59 up 1 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.24, 0.08, 0.03
Tasks: 118 total,   1 running, 117 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.3%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,
 0.0%st
Mem:   1016908k total,   204428k used,   812480k free,23004k buffers
Swap:   367608k total,0k used,   367608k free,   113172k cached

top - 19:29:06 up  7:22,  1 user,  load average: 1.37, 1.44, 1.28
Tasks: 104 total,   1 running, 103 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.3%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,
 0.0%st
Mem:   1016908k total,   238188k used,   778720k free,28316k buffers
Swap:   367608k total,0k used,   367608k free,   115596k cached

So, I'm gradually reducing possibilities. I'll try over night with just
launching LXTerminal to get a 'top', close it and try again in the  
morning.

I will disable the WiFi connection over night.


load average: 1.37, 1.44, 1.28
Something is running to produce load averages like this, screen-saver?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] memory leak

2010-04-15 Thread Steve
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 01:22:42 +0100, Phillip Whiteside   
wrote:



hi Steve,

you will have read 'war and peace' which is why I missed you on IRC.
Addons... Hmmm,

1) Full LAMP Server aka 'main' Ubuntu - Updated as per updates by them;  
be
very surprised if it were that, else all hell would break out but I'm  
sure

the leak was here before that.

2) Chromium daily ppa - There WAS a memory leak but it was fixed ages  
ago -

that's why I changed to daily ppa a few weeks back.

3) All the stuff that pcman had me install to be able to compile pcmanfm
from source with debug on

I use pidjin for my Im/IRC stuff, bog-standard no additional stuff on  
that
one as they can cause problems. I found xChat to be very memory hungry,  
and

need IM as well as IRC

If you know of no-one seeing it, I'll put the beta2 onto a 'clean'  
partition
& see how it runs, the leak has always been very evident within a few  
hours.



No sign of a memory leak here at the moment on beta 2..


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [LXDE Translation] PCManFM beta release postponed and may require unfreeze.

2010-04-14 Thread Steve

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:23:58 +0100, Martin Bagge  wrote:


On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Steve wrote:


Not a problem for me, I’ve converted them to Rubbish Bin anyway :)


That's the point indeed. I guess this is just a mistake from the  
developer

but when the original string changes this will cause your translation to
be marked as "fuzzy" and as such it will not be used when the strings are
presented. So if we decide to update it the translators have to revisit
all those strings or they will be in en_US. NOT very good, it's a trade
off - a more consistent en_US and maybe some translations have a mix up
too because their language uses that. For en_GB that's not true, not for
sv either ("papperskorg") and I guess alot of us around uses the same. A
change in original is a consequence in the other end. That's all.

Ah, I’m new to this translation lark so didn’t realise the full extent of  
the problem. You are correct it does need to be consistent.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [LXDE Translation] PCManFM beta release postponed and may require unfreeze.

2010-04-14 Thread Steve

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 20:36:44 +0100, Martin Bagge  wrote:


On Thu, 15 Apr 2010, PCMan wrote:


Here I want to ask our developers/translators for some opinions.
However, I want to request an exception because current pcmanfm missed
a REQUIRED feature for a file manager.
We didn't implement undelete for trash:// then the trash bin support
became totally useless.

...

A new string "Restore" or "Undelete" might be needed for this menu
item to restore trashed files.
If there is no objection, I'd like to request an exception for the  
freeze.


Any comment?


I have no objection. I guess the lubuntu guys would have some
strong opinions in this.


As the en_GB translation team I have no problem with an exception.


On a side note. I read the english strings for PCManFM today and found a
interesting interchange of "trash can" and "trash bin". I would use just
one word for it if it's the same thing that's of interest here.

Line 99 in pcmanfm2.pot
#: ../data/ui/desktop-pref.glade.h:17
msgid "Show \"Trash Bin\" icon on desktop"
msgstr ""

Line 214 in pcmanfm2.pot
#: ../data/ui/pref.glade.h:24
msgid "Move deleted files to \"trash bin\" instead of erasing from disk"
msgstr ""

Line 462 in pcmanfm2.pot
#: ../src/main-win-ui.c:154
msgid "Trash Can"
msgstr ""

In libfm we find the following (the pot file is not in the tree)
#: ../src/base/fm-path.c:435
msgid "Trash Can"
msgstr ""

#: ../src/gtk/fm-gtk-utils.c:461
msgid "Do you want to move the selected files to trash bin?"
msgstr ""

#: ../src/gtk/fm-gtk-utils.c:552
msgid "Are you sure you want to empty the trash bin?"
msgstr ""


/IF/ there is a exception I would suggest to do an overview of these
things too. I guess that for some translations the wording will not  
change

too much and just unfuzzing will do.


Not a problem for me, I’ve converted them to Rubbish Bin anyway :)

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Network Drives PCmanFM

2010-04-14 Thread Steve
I can reach network drives by typing smb:///.  I  
can reach them by mounting them with the latest version of pyNeighborHood.  
But, I just get 'Not mounted' error when I click on the icons at Go >  
Network Drives.  What am I missing or is this an error with PCmanFM.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: bug / problem in "detailed list view"

2010-04-11 Thread Steve
On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 17:58 +0800, PCMan wrote: 
> Please can anyone reproduce this bug? It doesn't happen on my laptop.
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: M. Daub 
> Date: Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:21 PM
> Subject: bug / problem in "detailed list view"
> To: PCMan 
> 
> 
> Dear PCMan,
> 
> first: thanks for your great work!
> 
> second: the problem:
> On "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing";
> you said that you can't reproduce the problem with highlighting in detailed
> view.
> 
> Because for me it's very annoying too, I'd like to describe it in more detail:
> 
> - using lubuntu with the most recent updates and with the desktop-ppa and
> proposed-updates enabled.
> 
> - using pcmanfm 0.9.3 with detailed list view as default view for every folder
> 
> - At first start and at the fist screen I can select each folder and each file
> with one click. And with the right-click I could "open, open with, cut, ...
> and so on".
> 
> - But if I go into a folder I cannot select any file or subfolder. With a
> double-click I can open it, but I cannot selcect it with a one-click. And so
> with a right-click I have only "new, past, select all, ... and so on", but not
> "open, cut, ..."
> 
> - If I change the view to "compact view", then I can select what I want and
> after that, if I change back to "detailed list view" then I can select the
> items in that folder too. But after going into another folder the problem is
> there and I cannot select anything.
> 
> Please take a look and fix the problem.
> The "detailed list view" is the default view for a lot of people.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Marcus Daub
> 
There does appear to be a problem with Detailed List View. I’m not sure
if this is the same thing as described above.
If you select Detailed List View then open a folder and right click on a
file you get the menu with New, Paste, Select All, etc. IF you then Left
click on it and then right click you get the correct context menu with
Open, Open With... , etc.  If you then right click on a different type
of file you get the same context menu as previous.
E.g. If you left click then right click on a tar.gz file you get Open,
Xarchiver, Open With..., etc. If you then right click on a PDF file you
still get Open, Xarchiver, Open With... If you then left click and right
click on a PDF you get a context menu with Open, Document Viewer, Open
With..., etc.  I.e then correct context menu.  This only occurs in
Detailed List View. 
Hope this makes sense and is the same problem Marcus described.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] adding the ppa & updating

2010-04-08 Thread Steve
On Thu, 08 Apr 2010 10:36:34 +0100, Andrew Woodhead  
 wrote:


why not use command line, so much easier than messing with stupid slow  
GUIs:


sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa; sudo apt-get update;  
sudo

apt-get upgrade

or whatever. Simple to describe in an email rather than "click this click
that type this" etc



Because some people are terrified of the command line.  Apart from which,  
why offer only one solution when others are available



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: adding the ppa & updating

2010-04-05 Thread Steve
On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 23:14:17 +0100, Phill Whiteside  
 wrote:



-- Forwarded message --
From: Phill Whiteside 
Date: Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] adding the ppa & updating
To: Steve 


I've updated the thread to include about launching terminal, I can add  
how
to add the ppa via Synapatic, but it seems a few more steps just to  
achieve

that.

Preferences --> Software Sources, enter password then
Click on 'Other Software', click on the 'add' button enter
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ubuntu lucid main
then I think I need to adjust the settings tab ?

At this point I'm struggling. I'm sure that there is a more elegant way.


Preferences > Synaptic Package Manager > Settings > Repositories
Other Software > Add
type ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa in the box
click Add Source
click Reload
click Mark All Upgrades
click Apply

’tis a bit long winded isn’t it, maybe we should get Leszek to do one of  
his screencasts



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Buttons to the left

2010-04-05 Thread Steve
On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 01:25 +0200, Javier Mora wrote: 
> You don't actually need to do this that way.
> Go to LXDE Menu > Preferences > OpenBox Settings Manager > Appearance, 
> you can edit the button order there (using the same syntax) without 
> having to restart the session.
> 
> Zoltan Matlak escribió:
> > Thanks for the info.
> > 
> > Also, can anybody help how to install the new ambianace and radiance
> > themes in lubuntu?
> > 
> > thanks
> > Zoltan
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Steve  wrote:
> >> For those of you feeling left out, you can change the close, min, max
> >> buttons to the left just like Ubuntu.
> >> Open $HOME/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml in Leafpad and edit line 40
> >>
> >> NLIMC
> >> to
> >> CIML
> >>
> >> Save
> >> Logout and back in
> >>
> >> This doesn’t appear to have broken anything but, I’m not responsible for
> >> any mess you get into.
> >>
> >>
So you can. Thanks for that Javier, it makes life a lot easier. Not sure
how I missed that in the first place.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Translations

2010-04-03 Thread Steve
On Sun, 04 Apr 2010 00:03:00 +0100, Grzegorz Radziwoński  
 wrote:



I've, but I don't know how to preform tests. Anyone can tell me how I can
join translators team, I'm native Polish, I've enough free time and  
skill to do it. Sorry for off-top.


For the LxDE part go to http://www.transifex.net/ and you can also join  
https://launchpad.net and help there.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pyNeigborhood

2010-04-03 Thread Steve

On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 22:46:51 +0100, PCMan  wrote:




On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 3:16 AM, Steve   
wrote:

Good news for those of us trying to get pyNeighborhood to work.  There
is a shiny new verison 0.5.1-rc1 in Launchpad, which works :) Hopefully
this can be made available in the nest release of Lubuntu. Pretty
Please :D

https://launchpad.net/pyneighborhood


Do we really need pyneiborhood?
The file manager should support smb through gvfs.
If it doesn't work, we need to debug it and make it work.
The main difficulty here is I have no smb network avaialble for testing.
Any suggestions?

If you type smb://etc/etc you can get to the shared folder but  
applications can’t. Clicking on the icons under network drives just causes  
pcmanfm to vanish.  I’ll compile a version with the debug symbols and run  
that see if a I can get you some info.



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[Lubuntu-desktop] Buttons to the left

2010-04-03 Thread Steve
For those of you feeling left out, you can change the close, min, max
buttons to the left just like Ubuntu.
Open $HOME/.config/openbox/lubuntu-rc.xml in Leafpad and edit line 40 

NLIMC
to 
CIML

Save
Logout and back in

This doesn’t appear to have broken anything but, I’m not responsible for
any mess you get into.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] pyNeigborhood

2010-04-03 Thread Steve
Good news for those of us trying to get pyNeighborhood to work.  There
is a shiny new verison 0.5.1-rc1 in Launchpad, which works :) Hopefully
this can be made available in the nest release of Lubuntu. Pretty
Please :D

https://launchpad.net/pyneighborhood


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New idea list for LXDE Google Summer of code 2010

2010-03-31 Thread Steve

On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 05:44:48 +0100, PCMan  wrote:


Hi all,
Since most of the previously proposed items are not suitable for
Google SoC because they are not challenging enough, I rewrite the
whole page and to list some real projects which can be done for the
whole summer. Some of previously proposed items are too easy and some
can even be done within one week. Then students will get nothing to do
later. Google summer of code need something of larger scale and they
should be projects which spend your whole summer. So here is the new
idea list. For students who want to join LXDE GSoC, please read the
page and send your application now. If what you want to do is not on
the page, mail your idea to our mailing list and we'll review your
idea immediately.

This is the new list:  http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Google_Summer_of_Code_2010

Happy coding!

One thing I’d like to see is a good GUI for lxrandr. I don’t know how  
hard/easy this would be.  Old CRT monitors are often incorrectly  
identified by Xorg so it would be nice to easily adjust the resolution.   
Decent gamma correction, along the lines of xxgamma, is also often needed  
with old CRTs. Obviously any other functions lxrandr provides should be  
available via GUI.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] Dial-up MODEMs

2010-03-28 Thread Steve
Do dial-up modems work with Lubuntu, anybody able to test this, as I think  
this may be required by some of our intended audience.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Feedback Lubuntu Lucid Beta 1 "Logo"

2010-03-20 Thread Steve
Pretty logo and a touch of aubergine on the boot screen.  But it won’t  
install with less than 192 MiB of RAM.  Will report more when fully  
installed.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PCManFM2 0.9.3 beta + libfm 0.1.9 beta are released. The first beta release

2010-03-19 Thread Steve
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:59:54 -, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



The good place for LXDE and pcmanfm translations is here :
http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/lxde/

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


Will translations made there find their way into Lubuntu?

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