Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Ubuntu Desktop] Required
As Jaeic says, removing metapackages is harmless, they are hollow and empty and o not remove the packages they install so are fine to remove, this is the same with any metapackage On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi, I guess this is more a question for Juliene, but one of things that has been raised a few times on IRC is why lubuntu *insists *on having all the packages that it does, for example you cannot remove Mplayer to free room up and put an alternative on, nor xfburn if you wish brasserro. Whilst the list of default packages is commendable, it does seem somewhat odd that none of them may be removed without it taking out the whole of lubuntu. The argument of 'more difficult to support' does not really stand, people want to make their computer their own, the whole idea of *buntu is choice, we can easily say that we cannot support xyz, but forcing people to have applications on that they do not want seems odd. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Ubuntu Desktop] Required
Hi, can you confirm that doing so will not, as has been reported as a bug cause any issues with updates / upgrading? Thabks, Phill. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: As Jaeic says, removing metapackages is harmless, they are hollow and empty and o not remove the packages they install so are fine to remove, this is the same with any metapackage On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi, I guess this is more a question for Juliene, but one of things that has been raised a few times on IRC is why lubuntu *insists *on having all the packages that it does, for example you cannot remove Mplayer to free room up and put an alternative on, nor xfburn if you wish brasserro. Whilst the list of default packages is commendable, it does seem somewhat odd that none of them may be removed without it taking out the whole of lubuntu. The argument of 'more difficult to support' does not really stand, people want to make their computer their own, the whole idea of *buntu is choice, we can easily say that we cannot support xyz, but forcing people to have applications on that they do not want seems odd. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Ubuntu Desktop] Required
Well, if an application is added as default in the future update of Lubuntu, it won't be installed without the meta-package. (Although I'm not certain in the case of distribution upgrade) Other than that though, there shouldn't be any issues with updating individual packages. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi, can you confirm that doing so will not, as has been reported as a bug cause any issues with updates / upgrading? Thabks, Phill. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: As Jaeic says, removing metapackages is harmless, they are hollow and empty and o not remove the packages they install so are fine to remove, this is the same with any metapackage On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi, I guess this is more a question for Juliene, but one of things that has been raised a few times on IRC is why lubuntu *insists *on having all the packages that it does, for example you cannot remove Mplayer to free room up and put an alternative on, nor xfburn if you wish brasserro. Whilst the list of default packages is commendable, it does seem somewhat odd that none of them may be removed without it taking out the whole of lubuntu. The argument of 'more difficult to support' does not really stand, people want to make their computer their own, the whole idea of *buntu is choice, we can easily say that we cannot support xyz, but forcing people to have applications on that they do not want seems odd. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Ubuntu Desktop] Required
Updates will be fine, the upgrade process expects (as far a I know) there to be a desktop metapackage to use as a reference so may be needed when maverick comes out. Otherwise its absolutely fine. i personally instal ubuntu-restricted extras then remove it as well as the stupid flash plugin it gives to then install 64bit flash. If i keep the package installed it will repull in 32bit flash and all the other garbage I do not want. I's a touch of control :) Peace -Andy On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi, can you confirm that doing so will not, as has been reported as a bug cause any issues with updates / upgrading? Thabks, Phill. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: As Jaeic says, removing metapackages is harmless, they are hollow and empty and o not remove the packages they install so are fine to remove, this is the same with any metapackage On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.netwrote: Hi, I guess this is more a question for Juliene, but one of things that has been raised a few times on IRC is why lubuntu *insists *on having all the packages that it does, for example you cannot remove Mplayer to free room up and put an alternative on, nor xfburn if you wish brasserro. Whilst the list of default packages is commendable, it does seem somewhat odd that none of them may be removed without it taking out the whole of lubuntu. The argument of 'more difficult to support' does not really stand, people want to make their computer their own, the whole idea of *buntu is choice, we can easily say that we cannot support xyz, but forcing people to have applications on that they do not want seems odd. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] [Ubuntu Desktop] Required
Hi, I guess this is more a question for Juliene, but one of things that has been raised a few times on IRC is why lubuntu *insists *on having all the packages that it does, for example you cannot remove Mplayer to free room up and put an alternative on, nor xfburn if you wish brasserro. Whilst the list of default packages is commendable, it does seem somewhat odd that none of them may be removed without it taking out the whole of lubuntu. The argument of 'more difficult to support' does not really stand, people want to make their computer their own, the whole idea of *buntu is choice, we can easily say that we cannot support xyz, but forcing people to have applications on that they do not want seems odd. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [Ubuntu Desktop] Required
If you are talking about why 'lubuntu-desktop' package would be removed when one small part of its dependency is removed, you can choose to ignore it and remove that package since it is only a meta-package that contains (literally) nothing inside it. It won't hurt other programs. Besides, the first thing that I did when I installed lubuntu in my netbook was to remove xfburn, and my desktop works just as fine :) Of course, if your package manager insists that other parts of lubuntu-desktop to be removed as well, that's another story... On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi, I guess this is more a question for Juliene, but one of things that has been raised a few times on IRC is why lubuntu *insists *on having all the packages that it does, for example you cannot remove Mplayer to free room up and put an alternative on, nor xfburn if you wish brasserro. Whilst the list of default packages is commendable, it does seem somewhat odd that none of them may be removed without it taking out the whole of lubuntu. The argument of 'more difficult to support' does not really stand, people want to make their computer their own, the whole idea of *buntu is choice, we can easily say that we cannot support xyz, but forcing people to have applications on that they do not want seems odd. Regards, Phill. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
