Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586

2011-12-22 Thread Yorvyk
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:24:42 +
Martin Olesen skovproduk...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/12/21 Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com:
  On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:14:08 -0300
  Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;)
 
  Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete
  (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it,
  so there was no market there).
  Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource
  releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04)
  Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS
  *ubuntu could exist for i586...
  I doesn't sound completely crazy to me.
 
  Is there any call for i586 kernel?  Has anybody complained of it's absence? 
   I would imagine there would have to be some numbers produced to justify 
  it's inclusion.
 
 
 If I understand this correctly we are dealing with processors 12
 (twelve) years old or more having a clock frequency of less than 300
 MHz. Such a computer is hardly usable for any practical purpose.
 
 I'd say we (that is, the Buntu community in general) should forget
 about them and focus on getting better support for new hardware.

Lubuntu is intended to support older hardware.   There are, however,  recent 
machines, based on the Geode LX chip , that are not fully i686 compatible.  
But, how many is the problem.  I can understand the Ubuntu devs not wishing to 
support large numbers of kernels, especially as there are now a number of ARM 
kernels in the repos to be supported.  Like the PAE kernel problem, with the 
Celeron M, are there enough users to test and support the appropriate kernels.
I really don't know which way to go on this one to be honest.  But, in both 
cases, it's not just about last centuries hardware.

-- 
Yorvyk

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586

2011-12-21 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;)

Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete
(if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it,
so there was no market there).
Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource
releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04)
Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS
*ubuntu could exist for i586...
I doesn't sound completely crazy to me.

--  jpxsat
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Idea for i586

2011-12-21 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:14:08 -0300
Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com wrote:

 First, don't kill me for bringing back this topic ;)
 
 Since Lubuntu is official, maybe the cause for dropping i586 is obsolete
 (if I remember right it was because none of the flavours could run in it,
 so there was no market there).
 Aditionally, there's the fact that LTS are the less demanding resource
 releases :) (experieced by me with 8.04 and 10.04)
 Maybe we could ask nicely, together with Xubuntu, that at least for the LTS
 *ubuntu could exist for i586...
 I doesn't sound completely crazy to me.
 
Is there any call for i586 kernel?  Has anybody complained of it's absence?  I 
would imagine there would have to be some numbers produced to justify it's 
inclusion.

-- 
Yorvyk

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