Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
Hi Andrew, hello *, I know, that the packge manager pull down the 64-bit version, if they exist. But I assume, that the package manager will get the 32-bit version if this is the only one of the package. So to be more precisely: 1.) Does all the maintainers of the various packages needed for lubuntu- desktop (lxde-..., pcmanfm, osmo, deadbeef, ...) provide 64-bit versions? 2.) If some components are only provided as 32-bit, are there any concerns about such a mixed-system? Best regards Marcus ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
The packages in the metapackage will be available in both 32bit and 64bit. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:37 AM, M. Daub m.d...@web.de wrote: Hi Andrew, hello *, I know, that the packge manager pull down the 64-bit version, if they exist. But I assume, that the package manager will get the 32-bit version if this is the only one of the package. So to be more precisely: 1.) Does all the maintainers of the various packages needed for lubuntu- desktop (lxde-..., pcmanfm, osmo, deadbeef, ...) provide 64-bit versions? 2.) If some components are only provided as 32-bit, are there any concerns about such a mixed-system? Best regards Marcus ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
Hi, we seem to have lost where lubuntu 10.04 actually got up to. Stable == Not crashing every 5 minutes. Beta == Not a finished product. As it was not even launched as 'RC' (Release Candidate) The reason you say it behaves as a 'beta' is because that is exactly what it is. IMHO, considering the 'fun' that was caused by Service Pack 2 for Windoze XP (I also spell it the same way, but we get told off for that on the forums, M$ is not allowed either) which was a full release that people paid good money for, says a lot for the team being completely honest and open about the state of development when April arrived. As for regressions, I hope you are on the mailing list for Meerkat, I thoroughly enjoyed the Lynx one even though most of the stuff was way beyond my technical expertise. You get to see 'old' bugs resurfacing and patches being removed as people have time to re-write sections of code more fully. An example to me of how the very small team for lubuntu operates is easily shown when the author of pcmanfm basically tore up all the code and started again. It takes a 'big man' to appreciate they're boxing themselves into a corner re-hashing the lot. As a further example of how bugs re-surface, go take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/529794?comments=allI'm still wondering how they broke it, not only in the testing cycle for 10.04, but managed to break it, retrospectively in 9.10. But, we can do with our computers what we wish, we can use what ever 'flavour' of linux we choose - and we get to do all of that for free, unlike some other operating systems that are 'out there'. It would be a very bad day when there was only one version of linux out there. You may want to have a read of http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=61 which is my take on the *buntu family, I also do recommend people who are arguing the finer things in life take a read of http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/19/the-ubuntu-ethos/just so as you do not loose sight of things we take for granted. May the many discussions about linux carry on, for we only need worry when there are no discussions. So far, so good - pop over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=385 and hear the testers putting the ubuntu world to right ;-) Regards, Phill. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:06 PM, CAD Outsourcing cad...@gmail.com wrote: hi Chow, I understand what you are saying, and you are perfectly correct in a theoretical world. You can be arrogant all you want, but that is not going to change the fact that we livein an imperfect world, where all the planets and starts are NOT in alignment to make everything work perfectly as you mention, when recompiling for 64bit. In the real world we live in, applications are not perfect, many things aren't done perfectly, especially when you have programmer contributors with various backgrounds, philosophies, and skill levels. The proof is in the bugs. The proof is all the other 64 bit Ubuntus out there that are reputed to be less stable than their 32bit counterparts... even by their developers own admission, as you can often see the mention on the download pages 64bit is generally less stable. If you want a stable version, download the 32bit can often be read. Saying the opposite is either ignorant pretentiousness, or just a big battle of egos going on. None of which is productve in any way to the bettering of the project. Some of the points you brought up as an attempt in displaying contradictions, were made to demonstrate the contradictions made by the Lubuntu team: trying to make a faster distro that will run better on old hardware, and sacrificing stability, for a no-benefits-64bit version for the computers this is going onto. ANYONE with a very very very fast computer will NOT be able to perceive the SLIGHTEST performance difference on their computer, brought about by this distro in 64bit. BUT what they WILL see, what will stick out like a sore thumb, is the elements of the distro that were neglected and are still buggy. Don't be naïve: 64bit DOES require extra human resources - there is a lot of debugging and fixing to do, because once it is recompiled in 64, strange things happen... and when you run those 32 bit apps on a 64 bit OS, you'll slow down anything that is not the new generation intels of this year (not exactly the crowd that would want lubuntu anyways). (It's the same problem as we had with .com versus .exe program files in DOS and Windoze (I just like to call it windoze) - many were not compiled so they still need an interpreter, because after compilation they may not have been as stable. Otherwise everything would have been compiled on that platform.) And btw, all the apps we need are not all available in 64 bit. Skype for one, Gimp, and many others as well. If we had to choose, we would rather see a bug-free 32 bit version, and only 32 bit available, than having both maintained but some elements or
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
I feel humbled by your eloquent way of defusing a situation that threatens to get out of hand. A bright mind you are. BTW, we can use the term windoze on the forums and anywhere else we please, because the trademarks that Microsoft has the rights to are MS, XP, Microsoft, Windows and the like, not multiple sclerosis, not microsoot, not windoze... Of course, you will always see marketing people, and professional public relationists, hired by the powers that be, use intimidation and any other ways, on forums and anywhere else, as part of the company's overall marketing and image campaign... generously funded I need not add. (which may even include threats made to forum owners... Ironically, if you study the other kind of IP (as in intellectual property), you will notice that whenever we do use the proper trademarked terms, they COULD hit us legally for not including the mention windows is a registered trademark of microsoft corporation each and every time we write it... and we don't see them doing that now, do we? because then everyone would start using the term windoze to avoid such legal enforcement. Windoze Windoze Windoze Windoze Windoze Windoze Windoze Windoze Windoze* there! hahaha * Windoze is not a registered trademark of M$ On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 18:42, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi, we seem to have lost where lubuntu 10.04 actually got up to. Stable == Not crashing every 5 minutes. Beta == Not a finished product. As it was not even launched as 'RC' (Release Candidate) The reason you say it behaves as a 'beta' is because that is exactly what it is. IMHO, considering the 'fun' that was caused by Service Pack 2 for Windoze XP (I also spell it the same way, but we get told off for that on the forums, M$ is not allowed either) which was a full release that people paid good money for, says a lot for the team being completely honest and open about the state of development when April arrived. As for regressions, I hope you are on the mailing list for Meerkat, I thoroughly enjoyed the Lynx one even though most of the stuff was way beyond my technical expertise. You get to see 'old' bugs resurfacing and patches being removed as people have time to re-write sections of code more fully. An example to me of how the very small team for lubuntu operates is easily shown when the author of pcmanfm basically tore up all the code and started again. It takes a 'big man' to appreciate they're boxing themselves into a corner re-hashing the lot. As a further example of how bugs re-surface, go take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/529794?comments=allI'm still wondering how they broke it, not only in the testing cycle for 10.04, but managed to break it, retrospectively in 9.10. But, we can do with our computers what we wish, we can use what ever 'flavour' of linux we choose - and we get to do all of that for free, unlike some other operating systems that are 'out there'. It would be a very bad day when there was only one version of linux out there. You may want to have a read of http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18t=61 which is my take on the *buntu family, I also do recommend people who are arguing the finer things in life take a read of http://www.jonobacon.org/2008/12/19/the-ubuntu-ethos/ just so as you do not loose sight of things we take for granted. May the many discussions about linux carry on, for we only need worry when there are no discussions. So far, so good - pop over to http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=385 and hear the testers putting the ubuntu world to right ;-) Regards, Phill. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 11:06 PM, CAD Outsourcing cad...@gmail.com wrote: hi Chow, I understand what you are saying, and you are perfectly correct in a theoretical world. You can be arrogant all you want, but that is not going to change the fact that we livein an imperfect world, where all the planets and starts are NOT in alignment to make everything work perfectly as you mention, when recompiling for 64bit. In the real world we live in, applications are not perfect, many things aren't done perfectly, especially when you have programmer contributors with various backgrounds, philosophies, and skill levels. The proof is in the bugs. The proof is all the other 64 bit Ubuntus out there that are reputed to be less stable than their 32bit counterparts... even by their developers own admission, as you can often see the mention on the download pages 64bit is generally less stable. If you want a stable version, download the 32bit can often be read. Saying the opposite is either ignorant pretentiousness, or just a big battle of egos going on. None of which is productve in any way to the bettering of the project. Some of the points you brought up as an attempt in displaying contradictions, were made to demonstrate the contradictions made by the Lubuntu team: trying to make a faster
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
Here are my two cents: 1. Compiling for 64-bit will make executable binaries bigger and takes more disk space 2. because of #1, 64-bit apps uses more memory, but the difference is minimal 3. the performance of most apps are bound to I/O and mainly affected by speed of hard drives and internet transmission speed, not CPU. So don't expect any visible performance gain if you go 64-bit. Most of the deskop apps nowadays are I/O bound and 64-bit memory access won't help much and the I/O can even increase due to increased binary sizes. Get 64-bit version of nautilus and you'll see what I mean. 4. A well written C program can be used both in 32 and 64 bit environment without any modification. So no additional develop work is needed. If a C program runs in 32, but crashes in 64, that's a bug. It's a packaging issue, not a developing one. No modification to source code is not needed so developers are only needed for packaging/testing, not coding. Given the automated build system, not many developers are needed. Otherwise, it's a bug. 5. CPU intensive programs can benefit from 64 bit since your CPU can handle more data in the same time, but this only holds true when the applications are designed to take advantage of it. Most of our daily apps won't get performance gain. Actually some will even become slower. Try it at home if you don't believe it. Conclusion: 1. Going 64-bit won't give much visible performance gain. So it's not a must-have. 2. Going 64-bit won't take much work and should be easy, unless there are bugs. So there is no reason not to do it. This can help find potential bugs. 3. If a program runs well in 32-bit OS, but fail to run in 64-bit one, this is not an architecture problem. It's a bug. Please report it instead of complain of 64-bit. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:51 PM, PCMan pcman...@gmail.com wrote: snip 3. If a program runs well in 32-bit OS, but fail to run in 64-bit one, this is not an architecture problem. It's a bug. Please report it instead of complain of 64-bit. One example I found when playing with the Mini CD 64-bit install is that NetworkManager Applet 0.8 doesn't work correctly in 64-bit. The eth0 connection itself works, but the applet reports there are no network connections at all. It also doesn't display it's icon in the panel, although right-clicking on the space where it should be shows it's actually there. I'm guessing this is the sort of thing you're referring to, and which should be reported as a bug? Thanks, Bob ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
Hi Phill, Sorry this took so long! I'm happy to report that doing the install with the 64-bit Mini CD worked just fine. I haven't had time to try everything, of course, but I've found zero problems so far. Just one note on the install instruction; one step is to do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. When I did this, it told me there were zero packages to install. Perhaps that step could be removed, or perhaps it's needed only sometimes. Anyway, looking good so far for 64-bit. Let me know if there's anything special you'd like me to try. Regards, Bob On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi Bob, if you could try using the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Minimal%20Install Just go get the 64 bit instead of 32 bit mini-iso from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ I'd be grateful if you could reply back with how you get on, I have been asked a couple of times about such a method but not had anyone say yes it does work (or no, it does not). Regards, Phill. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of stuff installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to be workable from command line too. Thanks. Will this testing benefit the project, or would it be best to wait until you actually do a 64-bit version (if you do)? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
Hi Bob, thanks for getting back, you are still the first one to confirm it works. The apt-get dist-upgrade could well be a bit of over-kill, but I'd rather it spend a few moments working out all is well in the world than miss it out and find out it is needed in certain circumstances :-) What, with Yorvyk having a method to run lubuntu with RAID, this 'little, low resource for older computers' version of the Ubuntu family is certainly living up to my saying that although it is a low resource version, it is in no way a crippled one. Regards, Phill. P.S. I'd just like to add that I do appreciate the small team cannot support people doing such 'odd' things to lubuntu, but you can all congratulate yourselves on making one heck of a release. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Phill, Sorry this took so long! I'm happy to report that doing the install with the 64-bit Mini CD worked just fine. I haven't had time to try everything, of course, but I've found zero problems so far. Just one note on the install instruction; one step is to do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. When I did this, it told me there were zero packages to install. Perhaps that step could be removed, or perhaps it's needed only sometimes. Anyway, looking good so far for 64-bit. Let me know if there's anything special you'd like me to try. Regards, Bob On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi Bob, if you could try using the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Minimal%20Install Just go get the 64 bit instead of 32 bit mini-iso from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ I'd be grateful if you could reply back with how you get on, I have been asked a couple of times about such a method but not had anyone say yes it does work (or no, it does not). Regards, Phill. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of stuff installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to be workable from command line too. Thanks. Will this testing benefit the project, or would it be best to wait until you actually do a 64-bit version (if you do)? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi Bob, thanks for getting back, you are still the first one to confirm it works. The apt-get dist-upgrade could well be a bit of over-kill, but I'd rather it spend a few moments working out all is well in the world than miss it out and find out it is needed in certain circumstances :-) Hi Phill, My only concern about the dist-upgrade is that, well, somebody might not *want* to do a distribution upgrade. :-) They might inadvertently do one because they think this one command is essential. Or maybe I just misunderstand the command myself? I'm thinking that someone might be building their system based on 10.04, and 10.10 might be lurking and ready to pounce on them if they issue this command? Just thinking out loud. ;-) Yes, it's a lovely distro! I never boot anything else now. I'm sure I'm going to remove Ubuntu Gnome from my system, as it just sits there now taking up space. I really never go into it for anything. Lubuntu, with a bit of idiosyncratic massaging on my part, is exactly what I've been looking for. Regards, Bob ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:54:31 +0100, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi Bob, thanks for getting back, you are still the first one to confirm it works. The apt-get dist-upgrade could well be a bit of over-kill, but I'd rather it spend a few moments working out all is well in the world than miss it out and find out it is needed in certain circumstances :-) What, with Yorvyk having a method to run lubuntu with RAID, this 'little, low resource for older computers' version of the Ubuntu family is certainly living up to my saying that although it is a low resource version, it is in no way a crippled one. My RAID array is made up of 6 1.74GB HDDs for a total of 7.6GB, plus a 600MB HDD for boot and swap. Hardly worth it really but a good use for half a dozen old drives I had lying about. Better than them ending up in landfill. Regards, Phill. P.S. I'd just like to add that I do appreciate the small team cannot support people doing such 'odd' things to lubuntu, but you can all congratulate yourselves on making one heck of a release. -- Steve (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
If I were to use the Ubuntu 64-bit Alternate CD, do just a command line install, and then pull in the lubuntu-desktop package, would I have a workable 64-bit Lubuntu? It will be a few days before my AMD system is up and running again, so I can't test this at the moment. A related question would be if there is an official 64-bit version planned? All other *buntu versions have both 32- and 64-bit options, so I would guess that would be an expectation of Canonical's for inclusion? Thanks, and regards, Bob ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of stuff installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to be workable from command line too. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote: If I were to use the Ubuntu 64-bit Alternate CD, do just a command line install, and then pull in the lubuntu-desktop package, would I have a workable 64-bit Lubuntu? It will be a few days before my AMD system is up and running again, so I can't test this at the moment. A related question would be if there is an official 64-bit version planned? All other *buntu versions have both 32- and 64-bit options, so I would guess that would be an expectation of Canonical's for inclusion? Thanks, and regards, Bob ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of stuff installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to be workable from command line too. Thanks. Will this testing benefit the project, or would it be best to wait until you actually do a 64-bit version (if you do)? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
Well if you want it now then the minimal ubuntu install is the way to go to get 64bit Lubuntu. Depends if you can wait or not :) On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of stuff installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to be workable from command line too. Thanks. Will this testing benefit the project, or would it be best to wait until you actually do a 64-bit version (if you do)? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
Hi Bob, if you could try using the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Minimal%20Install Just go get the 64 bit instead of 32 bit mini-iso from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ I'd be grateful if you could reply back with how you get on, I have been asked a couple of times about such a method but not had anyone say yes it does work (or no, it does not). Regards, Phill. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of stuff installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to be workable from command line too. Thanks. Will this testing benefit the project, or would it be best to wait until you actually do a 64-bit version (if you do)? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit install?
Hi Phill, I'll be happy to just as soon as I get the 64-bit machine running again. :) I hope that's within a week or so. Bob On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Phillip Whiteside phi...@phillw.net wrote: Hi Bob, if you could try using the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Minimal%20Install Just go get the 64 bit instead of 32 bit mini-iso from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ I'd be grateful if you could reply back with how you get on, I have been asked a couple of times about such a method but not had anyone say yes it does work (or no, it does not). Regards, Phill. On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Woodhead andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote: Yes thats on way to get 64bit Lubuntu. You want a minimal amount of stuff installing to then install the metapackage. Your networking will need to be workable from command line too. Thanks. Will this testing benefit the project, or would it be best to wait until you actually do a 64-bit version (if you do)? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit
You can install the 64bit minimal system or u-lite then install the lubuntu-desktop metapackage. It will then be 64bit On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le mardi 02 mars 2010 à 08:22 +0100, M. Daub a écrit : I don't know anything about packaging, so please could anyone say something about the possibility of making a 64-bit-edition too? There will be no 64 bits until the ISO is generated by the Ubuntu architecture. I may generate a 64 bits ISO for the final release, but I don't think before this. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] 64-bit
Hello *, Lubuntu is a very impressive distro. It's lean, fast, with no nonsens-software but all you need and some things are much better then in other distros. So it's not so bloated as the most big distros. So I can imagine, that not only the targeted low-end-system-groups but also the groups with nowadys systems would like Lubuntu. I don't know anything about packaging, so please could anyone say something about the possibility of making a 64-bit-edition too? Best regards Marcus ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp