Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on
On 02/25/2011 06:05 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System requirements sums up the decision taken. The subject of this thread is CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on, so, as far as I know, this thread is about 11.04, not about 10.04. That decision taken is *not* to create i586-compatible binary .debs for everything in 11.04, but just to do some continuing 10.04 support, basically. PYROcomp seems to want to go ahead and try to create them all for 11.04 anyway, because he is very devoted to the i586 ... I was pointing out how much work that would be :) stuff will need 'back-porting' but it is not an insurmountable task. Backporting a few Lubuntu-specific packages to 10.04, sure, that's some work, but is not huge. In contrast, recompiling all of 11.04... would be a different matter altogether, which is what I thought I said, and what I think PYROcomp was suggesting. The kernel is also supported as an LTS, so we have pleantly of time :) Dropping this onto such a small team as Lubuntu is was not 'pleasant', but everyone commited immediatetly to support the i585 series as an LTS, even though 10.04 was a 'stable beta'. Yes, but again: (1) continuing support for (and backporting a few things to) 10.04, and (2) doing full i586 builds and tests of every package in 11.04 are two *very* different things, and have very different project resource requirements. PYROcomp appears to want his team to attempt (2), the latter, much bigger, project -- hence my comments. Apologies if I was unclear, or if I misunderstood what PYROcomp was proposing. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on (was: Re: Ask yourself...)
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:08:17 -0600 PYROcomp rexmo...@gmail.com wrote: Does the 11.04 edition in fact run on P2s? Yes. As I understand it support for old CPUs was dropped from the latest kernels... Maybe we need to add this to the Lubuntu FAQ, or something. It is already on the main Lubntu wiki page, but seems to be either not being read, or not being understood? If you feel that you were mislead by unclear wording on the wiki page at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu please say so, and suggest clearer wording we can use. Thanks! More detailed explanation: The Intel CPU architecture that was dropped was the i586 architecture. So Pentium I, and its relatives including VIA C3, AMD K6, National Semiconductor and AMD Geode, need to stick with 10.04. Pentium II is a P6 i686 architecture chip, and so should be fine with 11.04. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P6_%28microarchitecture%29#P6_based_chips for a list of i686 architechture CPU families. If anyone still has a working Pentium Pro machine, it should work fine with (L)Ubuntu 11.04, too :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on
On 25 Feb 2011 13:52:19 -0600, PYROcomp rexmo...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps this would be a worthwhile project: compiling support for i586? Let me know, if there is enough belief in support for i586 I will suggest it to the sl4mm3r5 group. Wow! Do you have any idea of the time it would take to recompile every single package in the entire Ubuntu repository set for i586, and then test them all for correctness?? And then either persuade Ubuntu to let us add that entire set of binary packages to their repositories somehow, or else set up our own parallel set of repositories? We're looking at tens of thousands of packages here... your group had better be both large, and very competent, if you want to do that. I think that's a little ambitious, but if you have the expertize and resources to attempt it, go for it, I'll definitely watch with interest to see how you progress :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on
Hiyas Jonatahan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System requirements sums up the decision taken. stuff will need 'back-porting' but it is not an insurmountable task. The kernel is also supported as an LTS, so we have pleantly of time :) Dropping this onto such a small team as Lubuntu is was not 'pleasant', but everyone commited immediatetly to support the i585 series as an LTS, even though 10.04 was a 'stable beta'. Regards, Phill. On 25 February 2011 21:04, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: On 25 Feb 2011 13:52:19 -0600, PYROcomp rexmo...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps this would be a worthwhile project: compiling support for i586? Let me know, if there is enough belief in support for i586 I will suggest it to the sl4mm3r5 group. Wow! Do you have any idea of the time it would take to recompile every single package in the entire Ubuntu repository set for i586, and then test them all for correctness?? And then either persuade Ubuntu to let us add that entire set of binary packages to their repositories somehow, or else set up our own parallel set of repositories? We're looking at tens of thousands of packages here... your group had better be both large, and very competent, if you want to do that. I think that's a little ambitious, but if you have the expertize and resources to attempt it, go for it, I'll definitely watch with interest to see how you progress :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
