Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu, energy efficiency and sustainable computing

2011-02-15 Thread Jorge Andrés Alvarez Oré
My computer is not too old, but Ubuntu (gnome) and Xubuntu (xfce) is slow
for me. Lubuntu is faster and is a update SO, so i don't have to use a old
SO (like WinXP) to use decently my all day work. Other reason that makes
Lubuntu my default desktop is that is base on Ubuntu, a OS that i am very
familiar, i don't need to learn news things (except the GUI and lubuntu
default program).

2011/2/15 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset 

> Hi John:
>
> 1)  Other Lubuntu users like me.  Did the environment factor into your
>> decision to start using Lubuntu?  Did you use it to bring an old machine
>> back to life?
>
> The reason i had to use this OS is that my machine was not working at all
> with XP and since with a P3 & 256 ram there's not a lot of OS that runs
> smoothly and are functional, i tried a lot of systems since i found it crazy
> to change a healthy machine because of it's OS! One day i found Lubuntu,
> tried it... and stayed with it since! For me, it has all the benefits of
> Ubuntu but it's very simple, clean... and really fast. Later, I even
> installed in a very old amd-k6 and runs nice.
>
>
> 2)  Some data indicating that Lubuntu is more energy efficient.  I've
>> seen some claims along those lines, but does anyone have any proof that
>> Lubuntu uses less electricity?
>
> I could not tell you with scientific proofs, but with Lubuntu my battery
> that has 10 years can work for more or less 1,6 hours (starting with the
> battery as power source) and i find it incredible... even once it lasted two
> hours, starting connected to AC power. With Ubuntu or XP is about 1 hour
> only.
>
>
> --
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> >> Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04)
> >> Linux user #522.597
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu, energy efficiency and sustainable computing

2011-02-15 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
Hi John:

1)  Other Lubuntu users like me.  Did the environment factor into your
> decision to start using Lubuntu?  Did you use it to bring an old machine
> back to life?

The reason i had to use this OS is that my machine was not working at all
with XP and since with a P3 & 256 ram there's not a lot of OS that runs
smoothly and are functional, i tried a lot of systems since i found it crazy
to change a healthy machine because of it's OS! One day i found Lubuntu,
tried it... and stayed with it since! For me, it has all the benefits of
Ubuntu but it's very simple, clean... and really fast. Later, I even
installed in a very old amd-k6 and runs nice.


2)  Some data indicating that Lubuntu is more energy efficient.  I've
> seen some claims along those lines, but does anyone have any proof that
> Lubuntu uses less electricity?

I could not tell you with scientific proofs, but with Lubuntu my battery
that has 10 years can work for more or less 1,6 hours (starting with the
battery as power source) and i find it incredible... even once it lasted two
hours, starting connected to AC power. With Ubuntu or XP is about 1 hour
only.


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>> Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04)
>> Linux user #522.597
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu, energy efficiency and sustainable computing

2011-02-14 Thread Julien Lavergne
Hi John,

I'll add my experience about this :)

Le lundi 14 février 2011 à 19:16 +, John Eischeid a écrit :
> 1)  Other Lubuntu users like me.  Did the environment factor into your
> decision to start using Lubuntu?  Did you use it to bring an old
> machine
> back to life?
First, it was for using a small EEEPC (7" screen, 1Ghz, 512 Mo). Lubuntu
(well, it was LXDE at this time :)) bring more speed to this machine. No
sure it extends the battery life, but as it uses less CPU, it should :)

> 2)  Some data indicating that Lubuntu is more energy efficient.  I've
> seen some claims along those lines, but does anyone have any proof
> that
> Lubuntu uses less electricity? 
The only study I'm aware about this is a Phoronix article :
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_desktop_vitals&num=1
But it's difficult to compare such data, because LXDE/Lubuntu have less
features than a GNOME/Ubuntu.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu, energy efficiency and sustainable computing

2011-02-14 Thread Tim Bernhard
John,

Lubuntu working great for me with very little effort on my part.  I'm using
it as my only OS (though I do still have Windows 7 installed) on a nearly
new Laptop running a dual-core Intel processor with 4GB of RAM.   I settled
on Lubuntu because I get 20-25% more runtime out of my battery compared to
any other flavor of Ubuntu or Peppermint OS I have tried.  It seems to use
about 1-2 watts less Peppermint One or the stripped down Ubuntu Netbook
Remix install I was using before.

Tim

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Kristian Nordestgaard  wrote:

> Hi John,
> Welcome aboard. To me, the environment is third or second, to be honest ;).
> I find it very nice to have (old, bad) batteries last longer and I also like
> the idea of having a fully functional desktop on a computer that costs a
> fraction of what a new machine (as would be required for the "mainstream"
> OS's) would cost. So economics and battery life is what decides it for me -
> with the environmental effect (or more precisely, lack of effect) is an
> added bonus. As for the scientific proof of the battery efficiency - I have
> not seen it, but I think it makes very much sense because you have lesser
> and smaller processes running, simply. I hope this is of use to you and look
> forward to seeing Lubuntu on the cover of Time magazine ;)
>
> Kristian
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:16 PM, John Eischeid wrote:
>
>> I am a freelance writing and I am researching energy efficiency and
>> sustainable computing.  I installed Lubuntu on an old laptop that once
>> had Windows and had gotten a very, very bad virus.  The machine was just
>> sitting around my apartment, but I didn't want to throw it in the trash
>> or give it to a recycling company, some of which don't actually recycle
>> the machines.  I am looking for two things:
>>
>> 1)  Other Lubuntu users like me.  Did the environment factor into your
>> decision to start using Lubuntu?  Did you use it to bring an old machine
>> back to life?
>> 2)  Some data indicating that Lubuntu is more energy efficient.  I've
>> seen some claims along those lines, but does anyone have any proof that
>> Lubuntu uses less electricity?
>>
>> I'm not sure who I'll pitch this story to, assuming that there is one,
>> but my previous work as been published in the New York Times and
>> Scientific American.  You can find links to those clips here:
>> www.johneischeid.com/clips .  You can reply to this list, or reach me at
>> my personal email address:  john [at] johneischeid.com
>>
>> Thanks to everyone working on Lubuntu!  I've been very happy with it.  I
>> tried Ubuntu, but it was a little too much for my old machine, which is
>> an HP Pavillion with only 512MB of RAM.  Lubuntu works!
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu, energy efficiency and sustainable computing

2011-02-14 Thread Kristian Nordestgaard
Hi John,
Welcome aboard. To me, the environment is third or second, to be honest ;).
I find it very nice to have (old, bad) batteries last longer and I also like
the idea of having a fully functional desktop on a computer that costs a
fraction of what a new machine (as would be required for the "mainstream"
OS's) would cost. So economics and battery life is what decides it for me -
with the environmental effect (or more precisely, lack of effect) is an
added bonus. As for the scientific proof of the battery efficiency - I have
not seen it, but I think it makes very much sense because you have lesser
and smaller processes running, simply. I hope this is of use to you and look
forward to seeing Lubuntu on the cover of Time magazine ;)

Kristian

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 8:16 PM, John Eischeid  wrote:

> I am a freelance writing and I am researching energy efficiency and
> sustainable computing.  I installed Lubuntu on an old laptop that once
> had Windows and had gotten a very, very bad virus.  The machine was just
> sitting around my apartment, but I didn't want to throw it in the trash
> or give it to a recycling company, some of which don't actually recycle
> the machines.  I am looking for two things:
>
> 1)  Other Lubuntu users like me.  Did the environment factor into your
> decision to start using Lubuntu?  Did you use it to bring an old machine
> back to life?
> 2)  Some data indicating that Lubuntu is more energy efficient.  I've
> seen some claims along those lines, but does anyone have any proof that
> Lubuntu uses less electricity?
>
> I'm not sure who I'll pitch this story to, assuming that there is one,
> but my previous work as been published in the New York Times and
> Scientific American.  You can find links to those clips here:
> www.johneischeid.com/clips .  You can reply to this list, or reach me at
> my personal email address:  john [at] johneischeid.com
>
> Thanks to everyone working on Lubuntu!  I've been very happy with it.  I
> tried Ubuntu, but it was a little too much for my old machine, which is
> an HP Pavillion with only 512MB of RAM.  Lubuntu works!
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu, energy efficiency and sustainable computing

2011-02-14 Thread John Eischeid
I am a freelance writing and I am researching energy efficiency and
sustainable computing.  I installed Lubuntu on an old laptop that once
had Windows and had gotten a very, very bad virus.  The machine was just
sitting around my apartment, but I didn't want to throw it in the trash
or give it to a recycling company, some of which don't actually recycle
the machines.  I am looking for two things:

1)  Other Lubuntu users like me.  Did the environment factor into your
decision to start using Lubuntu?  Did you use it to bring an old machine
back to life?
2)  Some data indicating that Lubuntu is more energy efficient.  I've
seen some claims along those lines, but does anyone have any proof that
Lubuntu uses less electricity?

I'm not sure who I'll pitch this story to, assuming that there is one,
but my previous work as been published in the New York Times and
Scientific American.  You can find links to those clips here:
www.johneischeid.com/clips .  You can reply to this list, or reach me at
my personal email address:  john [at] johneischeid.com

Thanks to everyone working on Lubuntu!  I've been very happy with it.  I
tried Ubuntu, but it was a little too much for my old machine, which is
an HP Pavillion with only 512MB of RAM.  Lubuntu works!
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