Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
Oops, forgot to include the team ;^/ --- On Sat, 12/24/11, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing To: amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com Date: Saturday, December 24, 2011, 1:14 PM Everything Jonathan Marsden said is exactly right, is there still any confusion? Lance --- On Fri, 12/23/11, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: From: amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing To: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Friday, December 23, 2011, 8:52 AM Hi Lance, Finally I can tell who is kansasnoob :) Thanks for your reply. Yes, I saw it before (but honestly did not read it all) and I just read it now. One thing I'm in doubt about it:I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed and it's up and running. I have done all the updates and upgrades (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11559293postcount=23) and now, I want to use zsync that I already installed. From my understanding to all this, I just need to do this: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111222/precise-desktop-i386.iso.zsync From Terminal and that is all, right? Now, as per your post that you mentioned (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4) and as per this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage ... zsync will NOT update the installed system but will update the previously downloaded iso so that you'll get the LATEST Daily Image and then you just need to burn a CD and Install all over again, right? I just need to double check and make sure we are in the same page :) Now, another doubt: What's the point from all the above if I do: sudo apt-get upgradeand sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Isn't that enough? Sorry of my questions are so silly but I'm very new in testing. Last time I tested Lubutnu 11.10 Beta 2 and that was for 10 days or more so didn't learn much stuff at that time. I'm very much willing to learn and understand more at the moment. Thank you in advance and I wish whatever I do will help Lubuntu and Lubuntu Users. Yes, I know I did nothing yet but I'm doing my best. Regards,amjjawad/A.J On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you see my post late into Oneiric final testing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4 If any of that is the least bit confusing please PM me. You seldom, actually almost never, need to DL an entire new iso - but you will have to burn a new disc! I appreciate your contribution to Lubuntu and I'll be glad to help you in any way I can. --- On Tue, 12/13/11, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: From: amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:04 PM Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion. I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18 I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync? Hope it's clear now :) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :) Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much except waiting - any other website will be slow. Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, amjjawad Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread) My Wiki Page | My Launchpad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || I walk by faith, not by sight || Imagination is more important than Knowledge || Keep It Simple and Short -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
Hi Lance, Finally I can tell who is* kansasnoob* :) Thanks for your reply. Yes, I saw it before (but honestly did not read it all) and I just read it now. One thing I'm in doubt about it: I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed and it's up and running. I have done all the updates and upgrades ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11559293postcount=23) and now, I want to use zsync that I already installed. *From my understanding to all this, I just need to do this*: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111222/precise-desktop-i386.iso.zsync From Terminal and that is all, right? Now, as per your post that you mentioned ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4) and as per this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage ... zsync will NOT update the installed system but will update the previously downloaded iso so that you'll get the LATEST Daily Image and then you just need to burn a CD and Install all over again, right? I just need to double check and make sure we are in the same page :) Now, another doubt: What's the point from all the above if I do: sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Isn't that enough? Sorry of my questions are so silly but I'm very new in testing. Last time I tested Lubutnu 11.10 Beta 2 and that was for 10 days or more so didn't learn much stuff at that time. I'm very much willing to learn and understand more at the moment. Thank you in advance and I wish whatever I do will help Lubuntu and Lubuntu Users. Yes, I know I did nothing yet but I'm doing my best. Regards, amjjawad/A.J On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote: Did you see my post late into Oneiric final testing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4 If any of that is the least bit confusing please PM me. You seldom, actually almost never, need to DL an entire new iso - but you will have to burn a new disc! I appreciate your contribution to Lubuntu and I'll be glad to help you in any way I can. --- On *Tue, 12/13/11, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com* wrote: From: amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:04 PM Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion. I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18 I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync? Hope it's clear now :) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :) Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much except waiting - any other website will be slow. Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.nethttp://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.nethttp://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
On 12/23/2011 06:52 AM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote: I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed and it's up and running. I have done all the updates and upgrades ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11559293postcount=23) and now, I want to use zsync that I already installed. *From my understanding to all this, I just need to do this*: zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111222/precise-desktop-i386.iso.zsync You can't zsync already installed packages, you zsync an ISO image file. This updates it to a newer verson of that ISO image, without re-downloading the parts that have not changed. zsync is used for updating an ISO image file, one you can then burn to CD, etc. It is *not* a way to update an installed system. ... zsync will NOT update the installed system but will update the previously downloaded iso so that you'll get the LATEST Daily Image and then you just need to burn a CD and Install all over again, right? Right. Remember, this is for testing, which includes testing of installation. Now, another doubt: What's the point from all the above if I do: sudo apt-get upgrade This first one should be update not upgrade, I think. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade That updates your existing, already installed, machine. It does not test the installer, or the installer slideshow, for example, which may have been changed between the time you first installed Lubuntu and the time you do the update. Isn't that enough? No. They do two *very* different things: (1) An end user, wanting to keep their machine updated, can do sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade to update their already-installed Lubuntu machine. (2) ISO testers, who will retest installation of Lubuntu from the ISO image on a variety of machines, and using a variety of different installation options, need an updated ISO to do that kind of testing with. Using zsync can help such testers them obtain an updated ISO image without wasting Internet bandwidth. Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
Did you see my post late into Oneiric final testing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4 If any of that is the least bit confusing please PM me. You seldom, actually almost never, need to DL an entire new iso - but you will have to burn a new disc! I appreciate your contribution to Lubuntu and I'll be glad to help you in any way I can. --- On Tue, 12/13/11, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: From: amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:04 PM Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion. I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18 I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync? Hope it's clear now :) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :) Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much except waiting - any other website will be slow. Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, amjjawad Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread) My Wiki Page | My Launchpad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words || I walk by faith, not by sight || Imagination is more important than Knowledge || Keep It Simple and Short -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :) Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much except waiting - any other website will be slow. Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion. I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18 I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync? Hope it's clear now :) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :) Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much except waiting - any other website will be slow. Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
Indeed, the 1st time you zsync on an already installed ISO it goes and grabs the entire darn thing again! Better, as advised, to use zsync to grab it in the first instance. Regards, Phill. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:04 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.comwrote: Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion. I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18 I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync? Hope it's clear now :) On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote: On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :) Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much except waiting - any other website will be slow. Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time. -- Yorvyk ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
Hi, The 1st Alpha of Lubuntu 12.04 is planned for Thurday. We started the ISO testing for Alpha 1, so if you want to help, you can join the testing process :) If you know how to use a virtual machine (Virtualbox) and how to install Lubuntu, you can help ! :) You can follow the steps on this wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures . We uses a new ISO tracker to collect the results : http://91.189.93.73 . There are 4 ISOs that you can test : Live CD (Desktop) and Alternate ISO, both on i386 and amd64. All need to be tested, to be able to publish an Alpha 1. To be short, just download the ISO, run it into VirtualBox, check the testcase on the page of the ISO, and report the result. You don't need any technical knowledge, and if you have questions, you can ask on #lubuntu or #ubuntu-testing. Thanks in advance ! :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
Hello Julien, I was unable to open this: http://91.189.93.73 Site is blocked by my ISP and anyway it doesn't seem a valid IP address anyway. Another thing: I understand testing in Virtual Machines (VirtualBox) is SAFE but will that be the same as testing on real installation? For someone like me who has spare PC and/or HDD, I don't think it will be a problem but for someone who doesn't have, I think VirtualBox comes in handy. Am I right? I had some personal issues and problems in real life so not sure if I'll be active in Testing but will do my best. Keep up the good work and thanks for all your efforts :) Ali/amjjawad On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, The 1st Alpha of Lubuntu 12.04 is planned for Thurday. We started the ISO testing for Alpha 1, so if you want to help, you can join the testing process :) If you know how to use a virtual machine (Virtualbox) and how to install Lubuntu, you can help ! :) You can follow the steps on this wiki page : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures . We uses a new ISO tracker to collect the results : http://91.189.93.73 . There are 4 ISOs that you can test : Live CD (Desktop) and Alternate ISO, both on i386 and amd64. All need to be tested, to be able to publish an Alpha 1. To be short, just download the ISO, run it into VirtualBox, check the testcase on the page of the ISO, and report the result. You don't need any technical knowledge, and if you have questions, you can ask on #lubuntu or #ubuntu-testing. Thanks in advance ! :) Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
