Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
Hi everyone, YES, I do take on what everyone says :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing>Several hours re-working it and re-phrasing / moving / deleting / adding to it. I've asked the QA team to check that I am factually correct, as that is my 1st priority. As to the layout - feel free to complain / nag me etc :) Regards, Phill. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lance wrote: > Could the "See server" part of the Beta 1 line be highlighted red and link > to this page: > > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/MD5SUMS > > Just an idea, but I have no idea how to do it ;^) > > Also "Torrent link" may be misleading because that link includes all DL > options (http, jigdo, zsync, torrent). > > And that should be the only DL link needed for the Beta 1, having the QA > testing link there could be confusing because about 4 days before Beta 2 > those images will change, and we mention (and link to) the iso-tracker in > the next paragraph. > > In fact when the LTS releases have "point-upgades", eg: 10.04.4, they also > pop up on the iso-tracker, sometimes several days prior to the actual > release. > > As always thanks for all you do. That extends to every member of the team. > > Lance > > --- On *Sat, 9/3/11, Phill Whiteside * wrote: > > > From: Phill Whiteside > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary??? > To: "Jonathan Marsden" > Cc: "lubuntu-desktop" > Date: Saturday, September 3, 2011, 5:33 AM > > > Hi Jonathan, > > as there are various incarnations of lubuntu (i386, amd64, alt.) each > comes with its own unique md5. That is what I allude to when I state that > the md5 varies. Maybe a note explaining that there are different build > flavours each with their own md5 needs doing? I put it simply as for a > person to check at the down load area for the md5 for which image they > downloaded? > > Regards, > > Phill. > > > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Jonathan Marsden > http://mc/compose?to=jmars...@fastmail.fm> > > wrote: > > On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing we have a chart that now says > our md5sums for some ISOs vary. > > Um. The whole point is that they don't :) For a given ISO image, the > md5sum *must* be the same, or you don't have the same image! > > I think maybe someone got lazy and didn't want to add entries for 4 ISOs > (LiveCD i386, LiveCD amd64, AlternateCD i386 abd AlternateCD amd64)? Is > that what "varies" means -- there are four images, each with their own > (non-varying!) md5sum? > > Basically, I don't think saying our md5sums vary is helpful... can we > fix this please? > > Jonathan > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : > lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net<http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > -- > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : > lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net<http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
Hiyas Josh, things get a little more complicated when you take into account that some people prefer SHA's. The download page that people are directed to does also have the SHA1's and SHA256's for those who prefer to use them. the column for md5's is historical, and back to when we used to spin our own images. The iso's once running, do have the option to check the cd before you install so you can still work 'offline' once you have your image. This further checks that cd burn was successful. There is nothing worse than trying to install a corrupt CD! Regards, Phill. On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 5:15 AM, Josh Embrey wrote: > Best practices regarding checksums is to present one for each and not > suggest that people look elsewhere. With each ISO that's released, the > checksum should be presented with it. Some distros actually offer .zip > files that have an ISO and a checksum file for the ISO. This makes it so > that if you're forced to work offline, you can still calculate your > accuracy. > > > > ___ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
Best practices regarding checksums is to present one for each and not suggest that people look elsewhere. With each ISO that's released, the checksum should be presented with it. Some distros actually offer .zip files that have an ISO and a checksum file for the ISO. This makes it so that if you're forced to work offline, you can still calculate your accuracy. ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
Hi Lance, Sorry for the delay. Is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Lubuntu_Oneiric_11.10 better in terms of the table layout and links for Beta 1? Thanks for your input on this. Regards, Phill. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lance wrote: > Could the "See server" part of the Beta 1 line be highlighted red and link > to this page: > > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/MD5SUMS > > Just an idea, but I have no idea how to do it ;^) > > Also "Torrent link" may be misleading because that link includes all DL > options (http, jigdo, zsync, torrent). > > And that should be the only DL link needed for the Beta 1, having the QA > testing link there could be confusing because about 4 days before Beta 2 > those images will change, and we mention (and link to) the iso-tracker in > the next paragraph. > > In fact when the LTS releases have "point-upgades", eg: 10.04.4, they also > pop up on the iso-tracker, sometimes several days prior to the actual > release. > > As always thanks for all you do. That extends to every member of the team. > > Lance > > --- On *Sat, 9/3/11, Phill Whiteside * wrote: > > > From: Phill Whiteside > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary??? > To: "Jonathan Marsden" > Cc: "lubuntu-desktop" > Date: Saturday, September 3, 2011, 5:33 AM > > > Hi Jonathan, > > as there are various incarnations of lubuntu (i386, amd64, alt.) each > comes with its own unique md5. That is what I allude to when I state that > the md5 varies. Maybe a note explaining that there are different build > flavours each with their own md5 needs doing? I put it simply as for a > person to check at the down load area for the md5 for which image they > downloaded? > > Regards, > > Phill. > > > On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Jonathan Marsden > http://mc/compose?to=jmars...@fastmail.fm> > > wrote: > > On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing we have a chart that now says > our md5sums for some ISOs vary. > > Um. The whole point is that they don't :) For a given ISO image, the > md5sum *must* be the same, or you don't have the same image! > > I think maybe someone got lazy and didn't want to add entries for 4 ISOs > (LiveCD i386, LiveCD amd64, AlternateCD i386 abd AlternateCD amd64)? Is > that what "varies" means -- there are four images, each with their own > (non-varying!) md5sum? > > Basically, I don't think saying our md5sums vary is helpful... can we > fix this please? > > Jonathan > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : > lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net<http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > > -- > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw > > -Inline Attachment Follows- > > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : > lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net<http://mc/compose?to=lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
Could the "See server" part of the Beta 1 line be highlighted red and link to this page: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/oneiric/beta-1/MD5SUMS Just an idea, but I have no idea how to do it ;^) Also "Torrent link" may be misleading because that link includes all DL options (http, jigdo, zsync, torrent). And that should be the only DL link needed for the Beta 1, having the QA testing link there could be confusing because about 4 days before Beta 2 those images will change, and we mention (and link to) the iso-tracker in the next paragraph. In fact when the LTS releases have "point-upgades", eg: 10.04.4, they also pop up on the iso-tracker, sometimes several days prior to the actual release. As always thanks for all you do. That extends to every member of the team. Lance --- On Sat, 9/3/11, Phill Whiteside wrote: From: Phill Whiteside Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary??? To: "Jonathan Marsden" Cc: "lubuntu-desktop" Date: Saturday, September 3, 2011, 5:33 AM Hi Jonathan, as there are various incarnations of lubuntu (i386, amd64, alt.) each comes with its own unique md5. That is what I allude to when I state that the md5 varies. Maybe a note explaining that there are different build flavours each with their own md5 needs doing? I put it simply as for a person to check at the down load area for the md5 for which image they downloaded? Regards, Phill. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing we have a chart that now says our md5sums for some ISOs vary. Um. The whole point is that they don't :) For a given ISO image, the md5sum *must* be the same, or you don't have the same image! I think maybe someone got lazy and didn't want to add entries for 4 ISOs (LiveCD i386, LiveCD amd64, AlternateCD i386 abd AlternateCD amd64)? Is that what "varies" means -- there are four images, each with their own (non-varying!) md5sum? Basically, I don't think saying our md5sums vary is helpful... can we fix this please? Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
Hi Jonathan, as there are various incarnations of lubuntu (i386, amd64, alt.) each comes with its own unique md5. That is what I allude to when I state that the md5 varies. Maybe a note explaining that there are different build flavours each with their own md5 needs doing? I put it simply as for a person to check at the down load area for the md5 for which image they downloaded? Regards, Phill. On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing we have a chart that now says > our md5sums for some ISOs vary. > > Um. The whole point is that they don't :) For a given ISO image, the > md5sum *must* be the same, or you don't have the same image! > > I think maybe someone got lazy and didn't want to add entries for 4 ISOs > (LiveCD i386, LiveCD amd64, AlternateCD i386 abd AlternateCD amd64)? Is > that what "varies" means -- there are four images, each with their own > (non-varying!) md5sum? > > Basically, I don't think saying our md5sums vary is helpful... can we > fix this please? > > Jonathan > > ___ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Testing, and md5sums that vary???
On https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing we have a chart that now says our md5sums for some ISOs vary. Um. The whole point is that they don't :) For a given ISO image, the md5sum *must* be the same, or you don't have the same image! I think maybe someone got lazy and didn't want to add entries for 4 ISOs (LiveCD i386, LiveCD amd64, AlternateCD i386 abd AlternateCD amd64)? Is that what "varies" means -- there are four images, each with their own (non-varying!) md5sum? Basically, I don't think saying our md5sums vary is helpful... can we fix this please? Jonathan ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
