Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New programs by default

2009-12-10 Thread David Sugar
Mario Behling wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> thanks for starting the work on Lucid. Can we update
> 
> I agree, that we need to look out for lightweight options for applications.
> 
> About the applications you are proposing.
> 
> xfce task manager - I know that lxtask has some bugs, but we defined
> it in the applications list. Please let us know, what is the reason to
> change it?

And equally important, if these issues in lxtask are likely to be
addressed, say before Lucid release, then I do not see reason to change
either.

> parcellite - seems good to me.
> 
> Osmo - I wonder how compatible we should try to keep it with other
> solutions. Import and export functionality of data seems to be very
> rudimentary? I found ical can be exported. What do you think?

I actually like the idea of having osmo in Lubuntu, as a small personal
organizer application.

> language-selector - very useful!
> 
> software-properties-gtk - good idea
> 
> How about lxlauncher - where would be a good place to have a button to
> change desktop mode? Do you agree that a switchable desktop mode would
> be a good idea?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mario
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just added 6 new programs to the seed to cover some missing features.
>> They will be installed by default in the next upload of the seed :
>> - xfce4-taskmanager : for monitoring tasks, the origin of lxtask
>> - parcellite : for a clipboard manager (not start on login for now)
>> - hardinfo : for information on the system
>> - osmo : for managing event, calendar ...
>> - language-selector : for installing language packs
>> - software-properties-gtk : for managing sources in synatic
>>
>> The splash is still missing, but as plymouth was just uploaded, I prefer
>> to wait more before adding it to the seed.
>>
>> If you think the seed need other programs to be added (not replaced !),
>> please speak now :)
>>
>> For discussion on existing applications, please begin a new thread or a
>> new page on the wiki. Please also note this :
>> - Only propose application which are in the archive (not PPA, official
>> archive). Exceptions are lxde components (like lxdm) and chromium which
>> should be added to official repository soon.
>> - Prepare some arguments :) The actual policy is to keep the existing
>> seed, so the application need to bring real and additional interesting
>> stuff.
>> - Read and update previous discussion on
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications/Process%20Documentation
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
> 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New programs by default

2009-12-09 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le mercredi 09 décembre 2009 à 14:34 +0800, Mario Behling a écrit :
> xfce task manager - I know that lxtask has some bugs, but we defined
> it in the applications list. Please let us know, what is the reason to
> change it?
LXtasks is not packaged for Ubuntu or Debian. It was rejected by Debian
because it's mostly the same code base than xfce4-taskmanager. As I
don't plan to include it in Ubuntu, I prefer to stay with the Xfce one,
so we can at least share maintenance. Also, there is no additional
depends, since we have already Xfce depends with xfburn. 

> Osmo - I wonder how compatible we should try to keep it with other
> solutions. Import and export functionality of data seems to be very
> rudimentary? I found ical can be exported. What do you think?
I tested it very quickly, and not very well the import/export problem.
The goal was to covert the need to manage events and calendar. Osmo
seems to be a good candidate. Orage could also be good, but it brings
xfce4-panel depends, and look a bit ugly on a LXDE session last time I
tested. I didn't have another idea for this purpose, so if people have a
better idea ... :)

> How about lxlauncher - where would be a good place to have a button to
> change desktop mode? Do you agree that a switchable desktop mode would
> be a good idea?
Yes, I planned to create another session, so when login, you can choose
between Lubuntu standart or Lubuntu + Lxlauncher.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New programs by default

2009-12-08 Thread Mario Behling
Hi,

thanks for starting the work on Lucid. Can we update

I agree, that we need to look out for lightweight options for applications.

About the applications you are proposing.

xfce task manager - I know that lxtask has some bugs, but we defined
it in the applications list. Please let us know, what is the reason to
change it?

parcellite - seems good to me.

Osmo - I wonder how compatible we should try to keep it with other
solutions. Import and export functionality of data seems to be very
rudimentary? I found ical can be exported. What do you think?

language-selector - very useful!

software-properties-gtk - good idea

How about lxlauncher - where would be a good place to have a button to
change desktop mode? Do you agree that a switchable desktop mode would
be a good idea?

Regards,

Mario


On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just added 6 new programs to the seed to cover some missing features.
> They will be installed by default in the next upload of the seed :
> - xfce4-taskmanager : for monitoring tasks, the origin of lxtask
> - parcellite : for a clipboard manager (not start on login for now)
> - hardinfo : for information on the system
> - osmo : for managing event, calendar ...
> - language-selector : for installing language packs
> - software-properties-gtk : for managing sources in synatic
>
> The splash is still missing, but as plymouth was just uploaded, I prefer
> to wait more before adding it to the seed.
>
> If you think the seed need other programs to be added (not replaced !),
> please speak now :)
>
> For discussion on existing applications, please begin a new thread or a
> new page on the wiki. Please also note this :
> - Only propose application which are in the archive (not PPA, official
> archive). Exceptions are lxde components (like lxdm) and chromium which
> should be added to official repository soon.
> - Prepare some arguments :) The actual policy is to keep the existing
> seed, so the application need to bring real and additional interesting
> stuff.
> - Read and update previous discussion on
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications/Process%20Documentation
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne

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