Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?
Hi, On 08/11/2016 12:49 PM, Narcis Garcia wrote: I believe that the problem is on software selection to build live/install media, and not on any software package. If live/install media hasn't CUPS, seems to be caused by a discard decision. What I don't understand is, if this decision is for CD space reasons, why Lubuntu ISOs are still over 700MB. systemd takes up a LOT more room. This has been my experience with making a tiny OS to fit within the ISO size limit. ... -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?
Hi there, On 11 August 2016 at 19:00, Aere Greenway wrote: > On 08/11/2016 11:49 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote: > >> I believe that the problem is on software selection to build >> live/install media, and not on any software package. >> If live/install media hasn't CUPS, seems to be caused by a discard >> decision. >> >> What I don't understand is, if this decision is for CD space reasons, >> why Lubuntu ISOs are still over 700MB. >> > I would be very surprised if cups were intentionally discarded for space > reasons. > > The ability to print is a necessity for any computer you do actual work > with (in my opinion). > > If things are that desperate space-wise, the goal of fitting it on a CD > should be abandoned, and defeat admitted. It currently doesn't fit on a CD. To install one of the Ubuntus, go to http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/netboot/ and download the relevant iso. From what I see there, 32-bit Ubuntus can be installed by putting a 48M iso onto CD-R and choosing options - e.g. Ubuntu or Lubuntu packages - at install time. I've been using a NetBoot CD-R for some of my 32-bit installs. HTH, Ian -- -- ACCU - Professionalism in programming - http://www.accu.org -- My writing - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/ -- Free Software page - https://sites.google.com/site/ianbruntlett/home/free-software -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?
On 08/11/2016 11:49 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote: I believe that the problem is on software selection to build live/install media, and not on any software package. If live/install media hasn't CUPS, seems to be caused by a discard decision. What I don't understand is, if this decision is for CD space reasons, why Lubuntu ISOs are still over 700MB. I would be very surprised if cups were intentionally discarded for space reasons. The ability to print is a necessity for any computer you do actual work with (in my opinion). If things are that desperate space-wise, the goal of fitting it on a CD should be abandoned, and defeat admitted. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?
I believe that the problem is on software selection to build live/install media, and not on any software package. If live/install media hasn't CUPS, seems to be caused by a discard decision. What I don't understand is, if this decision is for CD space reasons, why Lubuntu ISOs are still over 700MB. El 11/08/16 a les 19:08, Aere Greenway ha escrit: > On 08/11/2016 08:06 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote: >> My checking results with Live media: >> lubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.isoCUPS working >> lubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.isoNo CUPS present >> lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.isoNo CUPS present >> >> And for my surprise, lubuntu-15.10-alternate-i386.iso fits into a 700M >> CD, but not any lubuntu-16.04-alternate-*.iso >> >> >> El 11/08/16 a les 14:17, Marlon Ng ha escrit: >>> Hi. I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu >>> 16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS. I had to: >>> sudo apt-get install cups >>> which I've never had to do before. >>> >>> After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to >>> detect my epson printer. Otherwise the "+ Add" button in >>> system-config-printer was greyed out. >>> >>> I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS. >>> >>> Ciao >>> >>> > You are absolutely right. > > I checked two test systems that were clean-installs of 16.04 (rather > than upgrades from 15.10 or 14.04), and found that the ability to add > printers was grayed-out (not available) on those systems. That ability > was still there on a xubuntu partition on one of the same machines. > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention. A bug-report needs to be > created for this (in my opinion). > > I will specify that the bug affects me too, if I am made aware of the > actual bug report. > > I would probably file the bug report (in a terminal) using the following > command: > > ubuntu-bug ubiquity > > I'm not sure if cups is the right package, or if the live system > installer ubiquity is the best package to name. > > I would just do the bug report myself, but I'm not on one of those > machines (having the problem) now, and they're very slow machines. > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?
On 08/11/2016 08:06 AM, Narcis Garcia wrote: My checking results with Live media: lubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.iso CUPS working lubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.iso No CUPS present lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.isoNo CUPS present And for my surprise, lubuntu-15.10-alternate-i386.iso fits into a 700M CD, but not any lubuntu-16.04-alternate-*.iso El 11/08/16 a les 14:17, Marlon Ng ha escrit: Hi. I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu 16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS. I had to: sudo apt-get install cups which I've never had to do before. After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to detect my epson printer. Otherwise the "+ Add" button in system-config-printer was greyed out. I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS. Ciao You are absolutely right. I checked two test systems that were clean-installs of 16.04 (rather than upgrades from 15.10 or 14.04), and found that the ability to add printers was grayed-out (not available) on those systems. That ability was still there on a xubuntu partition on one of the same machines. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. A bug-report needs to be created for this (in my opinion). I will specify that the bug affects me too, if I am made aware of the actual bug report. I would probably file the bug report (in a terminal) using the following command: ubuntu-bug ubiquity I'm not sure if cups is the right package, or if the live system installer ubiquity is the best package to name. I would just do the bug report myself, but I'm not on one of those machines (having the problem) now, and they're very slow machines. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?
On 08/11/2016 06:17 AM, Marlon Ng wrote: Hi. I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu 16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS. I had to: sudo apt-get install cups which I've never had to do before. After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to detect my epson printer. Otherwise the "+ Add" button in system-config-printer was greyed out. I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS. Ciao Marlon: I have not yet had occasion to install 16.04.1 yet, so I would not have encountered it. It was not a problem when I installed 16.04 (the original release), and continued updates have not eliminated CUPS. Also, upgrading from 14.04 to 16.04.1 hasn't eliminated CUPS, but I would assume it would keep software already installed, except for what is classified as obsolete, or no longer needed. Thanks for letting me know of your experience. I will keep that in mind if I have occasion to do a clean install of 16.04.1. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?
My checking results with Live media: lubuntu-15.10-desktop-i386.iso CUPS working lubuntu-16.04-desktop-i386.iso No CUPS present lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.isoNo CUPS present And for my surprise, lubuntu-15.10-alternate-i386.iso fits into a 700M CD, but not any lubuntu-16.04-alternate-*.iso El 11/08/16 a les 14:17, Marlon Ng ha escrit: > Hi. I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu > 16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS. I had to: > sudo apt-get install cups > which I've never had to do before. > > After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to > detect my epson printer. Otherwise the "+ Add" button in > system-config-printer was greyed out. > > I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS. > > Ciao > > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
[lubuntu-users] cups not built-in ?
Hi. I just want everyone to know that my new clean install of lubuntu 16.04.1 did not seem to have CUPS. I had to: sudo apt-get install cups which I've never had to do before. After executing the above command, system-config-printer was able to detect my epson printer. Otherwise the "+ Add" button in system-config-printer was greyed out. I wonder if anyone else' installation of 16.04.1 was lacking CUPS. Ciao -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users