Re: [lubuntu-users] Error: the new mouse does not sweep clean in Lu 19.10?
Oops, in my previous mail it shouldn't read "Ralf wrote", ist should read On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:52:51 -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote: > > Anyway, it's mildly irritating, sort of like the "hidden file on the > > desktop" thing, which does seem to have "gone away" . . . in > > 19.10 . . . My little contribution to sink into total chaos ;). -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Error: the new mouse does not sweep clean in Lu 19.10?
On Wed, 2019-07-03 at 06:45 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Anyway, it's mildly irritating, sort of like the "hidden file on the > > desktop" thing, which does seem to have "gone away" . . . in > > 19.10 . . . Is this still relevant at all? Do you still have another install then 19.10? If so, what install is affected by the hidden file? What does "seems" mean? Is there or isn't there a hidden file on the desktop of your 19.10 install? Do I understand correctly that you had an install < 19.10. This install was fishy and you did a release upgrade to 19.10? You are aware that randomly reinstalling packages or upgrading releases is no appropriate way to fix issues? Could you please stop writing disgusting formatted multipart/mixed messages? Just write plain text emails. Describe your setup, what kind of multi-boot do you actually have got on what hardware exactly? Post relevant information from log files or post commands + their output. Use commands such as "uname -a", "lsb_release -a" to provide information. Then start with describing a single issue. Use an appropriate subject describing this single issue and don't change the subject. Open another thread for another issue. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommunityHelpWiki and other sites could be helpful on how to troubleshoot an issue. You provide a little bit information, by messy sentences ... my computer has got a personality disorder ... this morning ... 19.10 hidden file ... spread over several odd formatted emails. This will lead to absolutely nothing, but confusion. Consider to test if the same issues happen, if you run Lubuntu from a live media. -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Error: the new mouse does not sweep clean in Lu 19.10?
On Tue, 2 Jul 2019 18:52:51 -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote: >is a Gecko partition in another drive, so I don't know >why that would "throw an error" in Lu . . .??? > >Anyway, it's mildly irritating, sort of like the "hidden file on the >desktop" thing, which does seem to have "gone away" . . . in >19.10 . . . but, now there is the "error" window . . . which other >than that, things seem to be "working" properly . . . is there >actually "an error" or is it a "false positive"??? Regarding Ubuntu's policy by default everything is enabled, that could be enabled, if you install a package containing something that could be auto-started, then it is auto-started, so usually on Ubuntu flavours run a lot of services, that aren't needed by the user. Disable all services you don't need. Ubuntu's user-friendly policy deviate from the KISS principle. Consider to remove all those bug auto-reporting tools, apport, whoopsie and what ever else is running. Does something try to auto-mount the Gecko partition? Are you using a hand written fstab or the systemd equivalent? Is gvfs or something opaque and fishy running that provides mounting features? I install empty dummy packages on my distros to fulfil gvfs and pulseaudio dependencies, since this is software I dislike and that is absolutely useless for me. In your case pulseaudio is irrelevant, but gvfs could be relevant. If something unexpected happens and the log files aren't helpful, then start troubleshooting by keeping things simple. Try to solve one issue after the other. Even disable services you need temporarily for troubleshooting purpose. Is getting rid a hidden file on the desktop vital? Start with the most important issue. Please open a thread for each individual issue. Just focus on the issue, don't add stories. Let's start with the hidden file. I'm using openbox without a desktop at all, I just set up a wallpaper. What provides the Desktop for Lubuntu? If it's e.g. a file manager in desktop mode, check the settings related to hidden files. However, is that hidden file needed? Open a terminal and run ls -A ~/Desktop/ Is there a hidden file? If so and you don't know what that file is good for, did you already google what it is good for? Maybe you want to move the file out of the way, run sudo mv -i ~/Desktop/.name_of_the_file ~/.name_of_the_file.BACKUP_OF_A_DESKTOP_DIR_FILE -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Error: the new mouse does not sweep clean in Lu 19.10?
Walter, et al In the interest of "science" . . . today I couldn't make my "which distro > is this morning's distro" decision fast enough, and the top listing is > U-MATE 18.04 . . . today, the "system program problem" error window that > doesn't show any "details" did not open after logging in to GUI . . . > We've all perhaps moved on to the next point of breakage? I wanted to see > if this issue was still happening in "ubuntu" or if it has now been > upgraded/fixed . . . . Since this thread wasn't exactly about all of the > problems I was having, but trying to figure out if the "unidentified system > problem" was indicating something "serious" or something temporary . . . at > least in MATE it appears to have been "temporary." If it continues to open > when I get back to Lu 19.10 . . . I'll mention it. > > >> So today, back in Lu 19.10, and logging into the GUI shows the "system program problem" error window once again . . . I ran an update/upgrade in Lu and then rebooted back into U-MATE for the comparison, which continued to **not** show this same error window that it had a day or so back. Ran an update/upgrade there and then rebooted back into Lu 19.10 . . . and the error window continues . . . without capacity for stating "the reasons for this error" . . . ?? The Lu dmesg area shows the usual "can't find size, something else, the #7 signature not found" . . . and the "b43 module" stuff . . . I believe that all applies to the ubuntu as well, but in the case of the "#7 signature not found" . . . that is a Gecko partition in another drive, so I don't know why that would "throw an error" in Lu . . .??? Anyway, it's mildly irritating, sort of like the "hidden file on the desktop" thing, which does seem to have "gone away" . . . in 19.10 . . . but, now there is the "error" window . . . which other than that, things seem to be "working" properly . . . is there actually "an error" or is it a "false positive"??? F -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] which personality disorder would say it best?
Consider to compare the issue with a broken toe. You know that something is wrong with a foot, but you don't know what. You need to check the foot, to find out that a toe is broken. Once you know that a toe is broken, you can do something very pragmatic. Repairing software and hardware issues is even more direct, then supporting measures for self-recovery of the toe. However, comparing it with mentally illness doesn't fit. You can't find out what is wrong by a psychotherapy, nor can you fix the issue by a psychotherapy. This even doesn't work to fix issues with AI. At best you could compare it with a broken toe, but even better is an analogy to a car that has got an issue. You need to search for the reason of the issue, then you can repair it. It's possible to replace a broken axle by a new one. IOW it's less complicated than what needs to be done to cure a broken toe. What you need to do is structured troubleshooting to find the culprit. Once you know the culprit, you can try to get rid of the issue. No medicine is needed, no psychotherapy is needed. Sometimes a user can't fix an issue, then a bug report or feature request against upstream might be needed or help by a repair shop could be required. -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
[lubuntu-users] which personality disorder would say it best?
@Ralf:
> On Mon, 1 Jul 2019 07:48:39 -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
> >it might be akin to a "multiple personality disorder.
>
> No, it's not nearly similar! Keep in mind that you are controlling the
> operating systems and that the operating systems not randomly switch
> from one to another during usage.
>
> There is one possible exception, that is similar to such a human
> disorder. A boot manager could boot into the root directory of one
> install, while booting the kernel of another install. This might cause
> no {,noticeable} issue at all or could be catastrophic.
>
> My apologies for the unusual term, "boot manager", it should read
> "bootloader".
>
> My apologies for the bashism, but hey, it's the default login shell for
> almost all Linux distros.
>
Point taken on the "it's not multiple personality disorder," it may or may
not be an interaction of the various "personalities" involved, unless we
were checking which kernel was driving which system . . . it's hard to
"rule out" as one of the personalities may have been over-riding the other
personalities, and perhaps causing a Munchhausen situation. But, since it
was more like the machine was "unresponsive" to key stroke and would only
boot into one system, then perhaps that was more like "Dissociative
Disorder" ?? Or, maybe just "Cognitive Dissonance Disorder" . . . unable
to make clear cognition due to System Dissonance Signals interfering in
bootloader decision-making??? So many options that could have been
involved, maybe it was MPD-like syndrome, rather than full blown "Disorder"
. . . .
F
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