Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
On 4/30/20 10:39 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Hi Aere, Long time no see :-) Well, Lubuntu has been working so well, I haven't run into anything I haven't been able to figure out myself, so that 'long time' may be a good indicator. I have monitored the Lubuntu Users e-mails, and occasionally (rarely) responded to something, but things are going fine for me here. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)
(I posted on the bottom, below) On 4/30/20 4:50 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: AG: OK, well, that might be "exclusive," as in my lxde desktop session I have a visual listing of it . . . . Did you run another "apt update/dist-upgrade" subsequently to your install? On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Aere Greenway mailto:a...@dvorak-keyboards.com>> wrote: On 4/30/20 12:15 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: Aere: I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in 20.10 . . . I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly in view in the "internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is "chrome apps" . . . . It's been so long since I did the install,possibly through synaptics . . . it should be there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's installed, it's "installed." All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong." : - ) F It does appear in the menu when using the Lubuntu, or lxqt desktop. It just doesn't appear in the menu when using the lxde desktop. -- Sincerely, Aere I originally installed Lubuntu as a test system, and I kept updating it to the latest version. I'm not sure which level I started with. When I upgraded to Lubuntu 20.04 (in a terminal session, using "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"), things seemed to be working well, and I was able to install my Eclipse Java development environment, and things were working well. My Ubuntu 20.04 upgrade (which I was thinking of switching to), didn't end up with a working Eclipse development environment. Using the LXDE desktop on Lubuntu 20.04, I was able to even use my strange color scheme, which I like a lot, and things were working in Eclipse. So I restored my production files from 16.04 to the 20.04 system, and started working with that. That process proceeded without many problems, so I 'transferred my flag' to the new system. I'm just now cleaning up the last few 'rough edges'. The thing I like most about the new system, is that Rosegarden now loads channel recording filters (which it didn't on 16.04, and LibreOffice Writer, once again allows you to produce HTML files where graphics images are linked-to in the HTML file, rather than forcing you to embed them as data within the HTML file. I've been using an old copy of openSUSE Linux for editing HTML web-pages, because of the need to keep the graphics images separate. But now, I can use my production system to do it once again. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)
AG: OK, well, that might be "exclusive," as in my lxde desktop session I have a visual listing of it . . . . Did you run another "apt update/dist-upgrade" subsequently to your install? On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 2:48 PM Aere Greenway wrote: > On 4/30/20 12:15 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: > > Aere: > > I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in 20.10 . . . > I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly in view in the > "internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is "chrome apps" . . . . It's > been so long since I did the install,possibly through synaptics . . . it > should be there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's > installed, it's "installed." > > All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong." : - > ) > > F > > It does appear in the menu when using the Lubuntu, or lxqt desktop. It > just doesn't appear in the menu when using the lxde desktop. > > -- > Sincerely, > Aere > > > > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)
On 4/30/20 12:15 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: Aere: I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in 20.10 . . . I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly in view in the "internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is "chrome apps" . . . . It's been so long since I did the install,possibly through synaptics . . . it should be there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's installed, it's "installed." All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong." : - ) F It does appear in the menu when using the Lubuntu, or lxqt desktop. It just doesn't appear in the menu when using the lxde desktop. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
On 4/30/20 10:53 AM, Olle Wiklund wrote: Den 2020-04-30 kl. 18:49, skrev Aere Greenway: On 4/30/20 10:39 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Den 2020-04-30 kl. 18:21, skrev Aere Greenway: Lubuntu Users: I recently upgraded a Lubuntu 19.10 system to 20.04, and it has worked so well, I have actually made it my production system. There were some 'rough edges', but I was able to get around them. I am using the LXDE desktop with it, for familiarity and customization reasons. If I could customize the look-and-feel of the LXQT desktop more, I might start using that. But a big thing I notice, is that I have installed software from the Ubuntu repository (Chromium, for example), yet it doesn't appear anywhere in the application menu/launcher - not even in the Debian area. What do I need to do to make the software I've installed, appear in the menu? It is possible I installed the software when I was experimenting with the LXQT desktop. I tried re-installing while in the LXDE desktop, but it still doesn't appear in the menu anywhere. Hi Aere, Long time no see :-) How do you install your program packages? Is Chromium installed as a snap? And what about the other programs? When I install mkusb, its desktop files in /usr/share/applications will be recognized and added to the menu automatically. Best regards Nio Chromium Web Browser is in /usr/share/applications, yet it doesn't appear in the menu anywhere. I can run it using menu...Run...chromium - Aere Check if the ownership and permissions of the desktop file are the same as for the other desktop files that work. What is the content of the the Exec line in the desktop file? Does it match what you use manually? Best regards Nio By the way, chromium does appear in the menu, when using the Lubuntu (LXQT) desktop. It just doesn't appear in the menu on the LXDE desktop. I tried the following in the LXDE desktop. I checked the ownership and permissions of chromium-browser in /usr/bin, and they are the same as things I can execute from the menu. I purged (completely removed) chromium using the muon package manager, and removed chromium using Discover (which uses snap packages). Then I installed it using Discover. Chromium did not appear in the menu. I installed chromium using Synaptic Package Manager. It still didn't appear in the LXDE menu. I was able to create a link to chromium-browser (in /usr/bin) in the Desktop folder, so now I at least have a non-typing way of running chromium on the LXDE desktop. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Assistance with partitioning 20.04
On 4/28/20 10:03 PM, Stack Korora wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm really struggling with getting the partitioning of Lubuntu 20.04 on > my laptop and would appreciate some assistance. It's a very straight > forward layout that I've used for years and years. Yet I feel like I'm > losing my sanity with this new installer. > > 500MB /boot (or on my newest laptop /boot/efi > The rest of the disk is LUKS + LVM where: > 15GB / > 2GB swap > 10GB /tmp <- needed for an app I use > everything else /home > > Simple! The alternate installers let me configure this without an issue. > However, it is my understanding that there will not be an alternate > installer for 20.04. And this new GUI installer is mind-boggling insane > and severely irking me. [snip] I spent some time last night poking at the installer trying different things. Basically, installing with LVM is just borked in the current installer. Even excluding LUKS and just trying to do a simple 1 partition LVM doesn't work because it doesn't allow you to add to the LVM, just set an LVM partition. Yes, it creates a new drop down when you create the physical volume group (cleverly hidden in a menu behind the disk you are installing to) but it doesn't allow adding a logical volume. I did manage to do an install where I simply had /boot/efi and / partitions with a partition marked for LVM (but unused) so I could have taken the time to just carve out the LVM the way I want and sync/mount them. But I didn't want to mess with that, plus I wanted to experiment more. Eventually, I settled on just doing "physical" partitions encrypted with LUKS carved up the way I want it. I don't get any of the niceties of LVM, but at least it works. So there are two major faults of the installer, in my opinion. 1. LVM is just completely non-functional unless the work was already done outside of the installer. 2. The installer doesn't allow the user to unlock LUKS. I discovered a simple test for the second one; start up the installer and create a new partition. Check the box for encrypted and give it a password. Typo the mount point to be /hmoe and save to go back to the main partitioner screen. Now edit that new partition to fix the typo...can't can you? Nope...At least I couldn't figure it out. Had to delete the partition and re-create it. Don't know if anyone will find this feedback useful, but at least I've got an install that I'm "happy" with the partitions. Thank you, ~Stack~ -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)
Aere: >From the somewhere between 20.04 & pre-Groovy system that I have for LU, I logged out of LXQT and logged into LXDE session, and indeed Chromium was there in the >internet menu, I launched it . . . I logged out, and tried to log into Openbox . . . had done an update w/o rebooting and system froze. Restarted and logged into Openbox, and right-clicking shows >internet>chromium in the menu . . . I picked Firefox to type this email. Should be showing up w/o issue?? F On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:15 AM Fritz Hudnut wrote: > Aere: > > I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in 20.10 . . . > I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly in view in the > "internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is "chrome apps" . . . . It's > been so long since I did the install,possibly through synaptics . . . it > should be there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's > installed, it's "installed." > > All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong." : - > ) > > F > -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
[lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04 (Aere Greenway)
Aere: I was running Lu 20.04 up until it was released and now I'm in 20.10 . . . I have Chromium browser installed and it is plainly in view in the "internet" menu . . .also in the drop down is "chrome apps" . . . . It's been so long since I did the install,possibly through synaptics . . . it should be there, I might think that whether in LXQT or LXDE if it's installed, it's "installed." All I can think of is perhaps you did something "wrong." : - ) F -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:24:30AM -0600, Aere Greenway wrote: > On 4/30/20 11:07 AM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:05:51AM -0600, Aere Greenway wrote: > > > On 4/30/20 10:57 AM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:21:53AM -0600, Aere Greenway wrote: > > > > > If I could customize the look-and-feel of the LXQT desktop more, I > > > > > might > > > > > start using that. > > > > What are you wanting to customize? > > > The appearance of the windows, and color scheme (if possible). > > The first one works the same way as with all version of Lubuntu: you > > change the Openbox settings. LXQt isn't even involved. And there > > certainly ways to change the latter. > I saw that, but as I recall, there were very few (or only one) choices. I > don't like the choice(s) I could choose. > Is there a way to install more choices (like choices from Kubuntu)? Yep. Or make your own. Same as on LXDE (except you'd get GTK not Qt themes). -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
On 4/30/20 11:07 AM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:05:51AM -0600, Aere Greenway wrote: On 4/30/20 10:57 AM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:21:53AM -0600, Aere Greenway wrote: If I could customize the look-and-feel of the LXQT desktop more, I might start using that. What are you wanting to customize? The appearance of the windows, and color scheme (if possible). The first one works the same way as with all version of Lubuntu: you change the Openbox settings. LXQt isn't even involved. And there certainly ways to change the latter. I saw that, but as I recall, there were very few (or only one) choices. I don't like the choice(s) I could choose. Is there a way to install more choices (like choices from Kubuntu)? - Aere -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 11:05:51AM -0600, Aere Greenway wrote: > On 4/30/20 10:57 AM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:21:53AM -0600, Aere Greenway wrote: > > > If I could customize the look-and-feel of the LXQT desktop more, I might > > > start using that. > > What are you wanting to customize? > The appearance of the windows, and color scheme (if possible). The first one works the same way as with all version of Lubuntu: you change the Openbox settings. LXQt isn't even involved. And there certainly ways to change the latter. -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
On 4/30/20 10:57 AM, Walter Lapchynski wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:21:53AM -0600, Aere Greenway wrote: If I could customize the look-and-feel of the LXQT desktop more, I might start using that. What are you wanting to customize? The appearance of the windows, and color scheme (if possible). -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 10:21:53AM -0600, Aere Greenway wrote: > If I could customize the look-and-feel of the LXQT desktop more, I might > start using that. What are you wanting to customize? -- @wxl | polka.bike C563 CAC5 8BE1 2F22 A49D 68F6 8B57 A48B C4F2 051A -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
Den 2020-04-30 kl. 18:49, skrev Aere Greenway: On 4/30/20 10:39 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Den 2020-04-30 kl. 18:21, skrev Aere Greenway: Lubuntu Users: I recently upgraded a Lubuntu 19.10 system to 20.04, and it has worked so well, I have actually made it my production system. There were some 'rough edges', but I was able to get around them. I am using the LXDE desktop with it, for familiarity and customization reasons. If I could customize the look-and-feel of the LXQT desktop more, I might start using that. But a big thing I notice, is that I have installed software from the Ubuntu repository (Chromium, for example), yet it doesn't appear anywhere in the application menu/launcher - not even in the Debian area. What do I need to do to make the software I've installed, appear in the menu? It is possible I installed the software when I was experimenting with the LXQT desktop. I tried re-installing while in the LXDE desktop, but it still doesn't appear in the menu anywhere. Hi Aere, Long time no see :-) How do you install your program packages? Is Chromium installed as a snap? And what about the other programs? When I install mkusb, its desktop files in /usr/share/applications will be recognized and added to the menu automatically. Best regards Nio Chromium Web Browser is in /usr/share/applications, yet it doesn't appear in the menu anywhere. I can run it using menu...Run...chromium - Aere Check if the ownership and permissions of the desktop file are the same as for the other desktop files that work. What is the content of the the Exec line in the desktop file? Does it match what you use manually? Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
On 4/30/20 10:39 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote: Den 2020-04-30 kl. 18:21, skrev Aere Greenway: Lubuntu Users: I recently upgraded a Lubuntu 19.10 system to 20.04, and it has worked so well, I have actually made it my production system. There were some 'rough edges', but I was able to get around them. I am using the LXDE desktop with it, for familiarity and customization reasons. If I could customize the look-and-feel of the LXQT desktop more, I might start using that. But a big thing I notice, is that I have installed software from the Ubuntu repository (Chromium, for example), yet it doesn't appear anywhere in the application menu/launcher - not even in the Debian area. What do I need to do to make the software I've installed, appear in the menu? It is possible I installed the software when I was experimenting with the LXQT desktop. I tried re-installing while in the LXDE desktop, but it still doesn't appear in the menu anywhere. Hi Aere, Long time no see :-) How do you install your program packages? Is Chromium installed as a snap? And what about the other programs? When I install mkusb, its desktop files in /usr/share/applications will be recognized and added to the menu automatically. Best regards Nio Chromium Web Browser is in /usr/share/applications, yet it doesn't appear in the menu anywhere. I can run it using menu...Run...chromium - Aere -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
Den 2020-04-30 kl. 18:21, skrev Aere Greenway: Lubuntu Users: I recently upgraded a Lubuntu 19.10 system to 20.04, and it has worked so well, I have actually made it my production system. There were some 'rough edges', but I was able to get around them. I am using the LXDE desktop with it, for familiarity and customization reasons. If I could customize the look-and-feel of the LXQT desktop more, I might start using that. But a big thing I notice, is that I have installed software from the Ubuntu repository (Chromium, for example), yet it doesn't appear anywhere in the application menu/launcher - not even in the Debian area. What do I need to do to make the software I've installed, appear in the menu? It is possible I installed the software when I was experimenting with the LXQT desktop. I tried re-installing while in the LXDE desktop, but it still doesn't appear in the menu anywhere. Hi Aere, Long time no see :-) How do you install your program packages? Is Chromium installed as a snap? And what about the other programs? When I install mkusb, its desktop files in /usr/share/applications will be recognized and added to the menu automatically. Best regards Nio -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
On 4/30/20 10:34 AM, Parke wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:22 AM Aere Greenway wrote: But a big thing I notice, is that I have installed software from the Ubuntu repository (Chromium, for example), yet it doesn't appear anywhere in the application menu/launcher - not even in the Debian area. What do I need to do to make the software I've installed, appear in the menu? I don't know how to fix it, but a likely cause is that between 18.04 and 20.04, Ubuntu started providing Chromium via a snap package rather than a traditional .deb package. Ubuntu moved Chromium to a snap package so that they only have to maintain one snap package for all currently supported releases of Ubuntu. Can you manually add an item to the launcher? That might be the simplest fix. If I knew how to add an item to the launcher manually, I could probably do it. It would be a useful thing to know. -- Sincerely, Aere -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
Re: [lubuntu-users] Lubuntu 20.04
On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 9:22 AM Aere Greenway wrote: > But a big thing I notice, is that I have installed software from the > Ubuntu repository (Chromium, for example), yet it doesn't appear > anywhere in the application menu/launcher - not even in the Debian area. > > What do I need to do to make the software I've installed, appear in the > menu? I don't know how to fix it, but a likely cause is that between 18.04 and 20.04, Ubuntu started providing Chromium via a snap package rather than a traditional .deb package. Ubuntu moved Chromium to a snap package so that they only have to maintain one snap package for all currently supported releases of Ubuntu. Can you manually add an item to the launcher? That might be the simplest fix. -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users
