Re: [lubuntu-users] What happened?? apt freezes during dist-upgrade in kinetic??

2022-09-04 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2022-09-04 at 10:38 -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
> [snip] running kinetic this morning and executed "apt update && apt
> dist-upgrade" [snip]
> FireFox disappeared from the internet menu [snip]

Hi,

Firefox is not provided by the apt repositories.

It's a "Transitional package - firefox -> firefox snap", see
https://packages.ubuntu.com/kinetic/firefox , IOW the snap related
upgrade process is providing Firefox.

The "bin" provided by this package actually is a script, at least the
jammy package's Firefox script starts with:

"#!/bin/sh
if ! [ -x /snap/bin/firefox ]; then
echo "" >&2
echo "Command '$0' requires the firefox snap to be installed." >&2
echo "Please install it with:" >&2
echo "" >&2
echo "snap install firefox" >&2
echo "" >&2
exit 1
fi"

IMO the snap enforcement is the beginning of the end of Ubuntu flavours.
Fortunately my everyday Linux is the rolling release Arch Linux. Ubuntu
flavours were my long term support emergency Linux installs, but now I
try to find a long term support replacement for Ubuntu flavours.

Snaps are an Ubuntu only thingy. Other distros provide the snap
infrastructure, but they are not supporting it. I also dislike
alternatives, such as flatpak, but those at least enjoy a minimum of
acceptance, while there's absolutely no acceptance for snaps outside of
Ubuntu flavours.

Regards,
Ralf

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[lubuntu-users] What happened?? apt freezes during dist-upgrade in kinetic??

2022-09-04 Thread Fritz Hudnut
Folks:

Once again in Lu can't access Discourse, so posting here . . . running
kinetic this morning and executed "apt update && apt dist-upgrade" . . .
showed a few hundred packages to install . . . midway through on #52???
there was a "hang" on what might have been "initrd - 5.15x"  and there
was an "error" showing in the update applet . . . something about "package
number count"???  Concurrently FireFox disappeared from the internet menu .
. . .

I couldn't "ctrl-c" out of the hang in the console . . . couldn't launch
synaptic because "apt" was locking access . . . didn't know the precise
command to "force quit apt" . . . I also tried "apt -f install" but that
wouldn't override apt's lock on the system.  Finally just shut down out of
it.

On cold boot in spite of hanging "halfway" . . . now it showed only one
package left to upgrade . . . a language package??  But it showed "5.15
xxx" to be removed in "autoremove"??  so it was previously trying to
install it and then changed its mind??

uname -r right now shows 5.13.0-16-generic . . . I didn't update grub via
the master grub controller in another OS . . . to see if that would get the
kernel closer to 6.15???  Running a multi-boot grub situation . . . .  But
there hasn't been this kind of "hang" in running apt in Lu in quite some
time . . . ?  something got sideways in the dist-upgrade in kinetic . .
. .
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