Re: Razor Qt and LXQt

2013-12-30 Thread Israel 
Great news!!  I do want to simply test it out before I upgrade to a new
version (I always do a fresh install anyhow).
@PCMan are you supporting QML apps in LXQt?  I know they will run either
way, but I am wondering if you had plans to make some parts use QML
components, or use QML to quickly make the Qt interfaces to C++ backends
of current applications.  I am mainly thinking about the
settings/configuration of the openbox xml file, and possibly a "LXQt
settings" much like the RazorQt settings.
It seems to me (I could easily be wrong) that QML should run well on
LXQt even on lower end hardware, as QML has run on many phones.

This is exciting a lightweight Qt DE!!!  Thanks for your hard work!!

On 12/29/2013 10:24 PM, PCMan wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Rafael Laguna
> mailto:rafaellag...@ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>
> As far as I know, it's just an experimental development, and as
> you noticed, session isn't integrated at all. It's not fully
> themeable, it lacks a lot of components and the QT environment
> parts are buggy and unstable. So no, there're no plans for doing
> nothing.
>
>
> Not really. We already merged the code base and have a working LxQt
> desktop session.The session manager part needs some work, though.
> The git repository and other infrastructures, such as mailing list are
> now being set up, but it's still a work in progress.
> It's not yet ready for production use at the moment, but things will
> improve.
> We even got new developers after the switch to Qt.
> So, please keep using the old gtk+ version now, and stay tunned.
> LxQt is more than an experiment now.
> It's still rough, but later it will be a working DE.
> Cheers!
>  
>
> Be careful with those packages, they're holded as a "cooking
> experiment" and could damage your system. Anyway, the PCManQT file
> manager is pretty stable, but using with a GTK environment has no
> sense.
>
>
> --
> Rafael Laguna
> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/12/29 Israel mailto:israeld...@gmail.com>>
>
> Hey has anyone else tried out Razor Qt?  As I understand it
> this will
> eventually be fully merged with LXQt.  I have a session called
> Lubuntu
> Qt (which basically locks up the computer forcing me to drop
> to a tty
> and reboot), though I had hoped it would allow me to test out the
> current state of LXQt.  Are there plans to add pcmanfmQt, and
> all the
> other LXQt pieces into Trusty?  I have been contemplating
> switching my
> machine over to Trusty pretty soon so start testing everything
> out, so I
> am wondering if the components for LXQt are already in the
> repos for
> Trusty, and if not if someone has a ppa that I can use to test
> it out.
> Razor Qt is ok as a DE, but still missing a lot of features I
> like, and
> can only use a handful of themes.
>
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Re: Razor Qt and LXQt

2013-12-29 Thread PCMan 
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Rafael Laguna wrote:

> As far as I know, it's just an experimental development, and as you
> noticed, session isn't integrated at all. It's not fully themeable, it
> lacks a lot of components and the QT environment parts are buggy and
> unstable. So no, there're no plans for doing nothing.
>
>
Not really. We already merged the code base and have a working LxQt desktop
session.The session manager part needs some work, though.
The git repository and other infrastructures, such as mailing list are now
being set up, but it's still a work in progress.
It's not yet ready for production use at the moment, but things will
improve.
We even got new developers after the switch to Qt.
So, please keep using the old gtk+ version now, and stay tunned.
LxQt is more than an experiment now.
It's still rough, but later it will be a working DE.
Cheers!


> Be careful with those packages, they're holded as a "cooking experiment"
> and could damage your system. Anyway, the PCManQT file manager is pretty
> stable, but using with a GTK environment has no sense.
>
>
> --
> Rafael Laguna
> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/12/29 Israel 
>
>> Hey has anyone else tried out Razor Qt?  As I understand it this will
>> eventually be fully merged with LXQt.  I have a session called Lubuntu
>> Qt (which basically locks up the computer forcing me to drop to a tty
>> and reboot), though I had hoped it would allow me to test out the
>> current state of LXQt.  Are there plans to add pcmanfmQt, and all the
>> other LXQt pieces into Trusty?  I have been contemplating switching my
>> machine over to Trusty pretty soon so start testing everything out, so I
>> am wondering if the components for LXQt are already in the repos for
>> Trusty, and if not if someone has a ppa that I can use to test it out.
>> Razor Qt is ok as a DE, but still missing a lot of features I like, and
>> can only use a handful of themes.
>>
>> --
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>>
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Re: Razor Qt and LXQt

2013-12-29 Thread Israel 
It will probably be next weekend before I get to it..  but I will 
definitely let you know!!


On 12/29/2013 08:13 PM, David Yentzen wrote:
I don't have the time to do this myself but I hope you'd be willing to 
post up your experience on this to the mailing list. I'd like to see 
it, if you do.


Best
David


On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Israel > wrote:



Before I install 14.04 on this machine I might test it out here in
13.10 so I can mess everything up and then have a fresh start if I
need to.
Thanks for the link I will bookmark it!!  It is exactly what I was
looking for.  I really just want to see how close it is, and what
it is like at this point.


On 12/29/2013 07:37 PM, David Yentzen wrote:

@Israel
Yes, I recently "built"up a minimum install Ubuntu 12.04 with
Razor-qt as my DE. I really like Razor-qt--its minimalistic-its
works well for me, which is what I was looking for at that time.
If you are looking to test the LXQt/LXDE-Qt environment then you
may wish to look here:

http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/12/install-lxqt-via-ppa-in-ubuntu-14-04-13-10/

A very short article that details what you are looking for, I think.

Be aware, you may find an occasional dragon as Rafael pointed out.

Good hunting
David


On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Rafael Laguna
mailto:rafaellag...@ubuntu.com>> wrote:

As far as I know, it's just an experimental development, and
as you noticed, session isn't integrated at all. It's not
fully themeable, it lacks a lot of components and the QT
environment parts are buggy and unstable. So no, there're no
plans for doing nothing.

Be careful with those packages, they're holded as a "cooking
experiment" and could damage your system. Anyway, the PCManQT
file manager is pretty stable, but using with a GTK
environment has no sense.


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Lubuntu Artwork Team





2013/12/29 Israel mailto:israeld...@gmail.com>>

Hey has anyone else tried out Razor Qt?  As I understand
it this will
eventually be fully merged with LXQt.  I have a session
called Lubuntu
Qt (which basically locks up the computer forcing me to
drop to a tty
and reboot), though I had hoped it would allow me to test
out the
current state of LXQt.  Are there plans to add pcmanfmQt,
and all the
other LXQt pieces into Trusty?  I have been contemplating
switching my
machine over to Trusty pretty soon so start testing
everything out, so I
am wondering if the components for LXQt are already in
the repos for
Trusty, and if not if someone has a ppa that I can use to
test it out.
Razor Qt is ok as a DE, but still missing a lot of
features I like, and
can only use a handful of themes.

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Re: Razor Qt and LXQt

2013-12-29 Thread David Yentzen 
I don't have the time to do this myself but I hope you'd be willing to post
up your experience on this to the mailing list. I'd like to see it, if you
do.

Best
David


On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 7:46 PM, Israel  wrote:

>
>  Before I install 14.04 on this machine I might test it out here in 13.10
> so I can mess everything up and then have a fresh start if I need to.
> Thanks for the link I will bookmark it!!  It is exactly what I was looking
> for.  I really just want to see how close it is, and what it is like at
> this point.
>
>
> On 12/29/2013 07:37 PM, David Yentzen wrote:
>
>   @Israel
>  Yes, I recently "built"up a minimum install Ubuntu 12.04 with Razor-qt
> as my DE. I really like Razor-qt--its minimalistic-its works well for me,
> which is what I was looking for at that time. If you are looking to test
> the LXQt/LXDE-Qt environment then you may wish to look here:
>
> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/12/install-lxqt-via-ppa-in-ubuntu-14-04-13-10/
>
>  A very short article that details what you are looking for, I think.
>
>  Be aware, you may find an occasional dragon as Rafael pointed out.
>
>  Good hunting
>  David
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Rafael Laguna 
> wrote:
>
>>  As far as I know, it's just an experimental development, and as you
>> noticed, session isn't integrated at all. It's not fully themeable, it
>> lacks a lot of components and the QT environment parts are buggy and
>> unstable. So no, there're no plans for doing nothing.
>>
>>  Be careful with those packages, they're holded as a "cooking
>> experiment" and could damage your system. Anyway, the PCManQT file manager
>> is pretty stable, but using with a GTK environment has no sense.
>>
>>
>>  --
>> Rafael Laguna
>> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/12/29 Israel 
>>
>>> Hey has anyone else tried out Razor Qt?  As I understand it this will
>>> eventually be fully merged with LXQt.  I have a session called Lubuntu
>>> Qt (which basically locks up the computer forcing me to drop to a tty
>>> and reboot), though I had hoped it would allow me to test out the
>>> current state of LXQt.  Are there plans to add pcmanfmQt, and all the
>>> other LXQt pieces into Trusty?  I have been contemplating switching my
>>> machine over to Trusty pretty soon so start testing everything out, so I
>>> am wondering if the components for LXQt are already in the repos for
>>> Trusty, and if not if someone has a ppa that I can use to test it out.
>>> Razor Qt is ok as a DE, but still missing a lot of features I like, and
>>> can only use a handful of themes.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
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Re: Razor Qt and LXQt

2013-12-29 Thread Israel 

Before I install 14.04 on this machine I might test it out here in 13.10
so I can mess everything up and then have a fresh start if I need to.
Thanks for the link I will bookmark it!!  It is exactly what I was
looking for.  I really just want to see how close it is, and what it is
like at this point.

On 12/29/2013 07:37 PM, David Yentzen wrote:
> @Israel
> Yes, I recently "built"up a minimum install Ubuntu 12.04 with Razor-qt
> as my DE. I really like Razor-qt--its minimalistic-its works well for
> me, which is what I was looking for at that time. If you are looking
> to test the LXQt/LXDE-Qt environment then you may wish to look here:
>  
> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/12/install-lxqt-via-ppa-in-ubuntu-14-04-13-10/
>
> A very short article that details what you are looking for, I think.
>
> Be aware, you may find an occasional dragon as Rafael pointed out.
>
> Good hunting
> David
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Rafael Laguna
> mailto:rafaellag...@ubuntu.com>> wrote:
>
> As far as I know, it's just an experimental development, and as
> you noticed, session isn't integrated at all. It's not fully
> themeable, it lacks a lot of components and the QT environment
> parts are buggy and unstable. So no, there're no plans for doing
> nothing.
>
> Be careful with those packages, they're holded as a "cooking
> experiment" and could damage your system. Anyway, the PCManQT file
> manager is pretty stable, but using with a GTK environment has no
> sense.
>
>
> --
> Rafael Laguna
> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/12/29 Israel mailto:israeld...@gmail.com>>
>
> Hey has anyone else tried out Razor Qt?  As I understand it
> this will
> eventually be fully merged with LXQt.  I have a session called
> Lubuntu
> Qt (which basically locks up the computer forcing me to drop
> to a tty
> and reboot), though I had hoped it would allow me to test out the
> current state of LXQt.  Are there plans to add pcmanfmQt, and
> all the
> other LXQt pieces into Trusty?  I have been contemplating
> switching my
> machine over to Trusty pretty soon so start testing everything
> out, so I
> am wondering if the components for LXQt are already in the
> repos for
> Trusty, and if not if someone has a ppa that I can use to test
> it out.
> Razor Qt is ok as a DE, but still missing a lot of features I
> like, and
> can only use a handful of themes.
>
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>
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Re: Razor Qt and LXQt

2013-12-29 Thread David Yentzen 
@Israel
Yes, I recently "built"up a minimum install Ubuntu 12.04 with Razor-qt as
my DE. I really like Razor-qt--its minimalistic-its works well for me,
which is what I was looking for at that time. If you are looking to test
the LXQt/LXDE-Qt environment then you may wish to look here:

http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/12/install-lxqt-via-ppa-in-ubuntu-14-04-13-10/

A very short article that details what you are looking for, I think.

Be aware, you may find an occasional dragon as Rafael pointed out.

Good hunting
David


On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Rafael Laguna wrote:

> As far as I know, it's just an experimental development, and as you
> noticed, session isn't integrated at all. It's not fully themeable, it
> lacks a lot of components and the QT environment parts are buggy and
> unstable. So no, there're no plans for doing nothing.
>
> Be careful with those packages, they're holded as a "cooking experiment"
> and could damage your system. Anyway, the PCManQT file manager is pretty
> stable, but using with a GTK environment has no sense.
>
>
> --
> Rafael Laguna
> Lubuntu Artwork Team
>
>
>
>
>
> 2013/12/29 Israel 
>
>> Hey has anyone else tried out Razor Qt?  As I understand it this will
>> eventually be fully merged with LXQt.  I have a session called Lubuntu
>> Qt (which basically locks up the computer forcing me to drop to a tty
>> and reboot), though I had hoped it would allow me to test out the
>> current state of LXQt.  Are there plans to add pcmanfmQt, and all the
>> other LXQt pieces into Trusty?  I have been contemplating switching my
>> machine over to Trusty pretty soon so start testing everything out, so I
>> am wondering if the components for LXQt are already in the repos for
>> Trusty, and if not if someone has a ppa that I can use to test it out.
>> Razor Qt is ok as a DE, but still missing a lot of features I like, and
>> can only use a handful of themes.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>>
>>
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Re: Razor Qt and LXQt

2013-12-29 Thread Rafael Laguna 
As far as I know, it's just an experimental development, and as you
noticed, session isn't integrated at all. It's not fully themeable, it
lacks a lot of components and the QT environment parts are buggy and
unstable. So no, there're no plans for doing nothing.

Be careful with those packages, they're holded as a "cooking experiment"
and could damage your system. Anyway, the PCManQT file manager is pretty
stable, but using with a GTK environment has no sense.


--
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Lubuntu Artwork Team





2013/12/29 Israel 

> Hey has anyone else tried out Razor Qt?  As I understand it this will
> eventually be fully merged with LXQt.  I have a session called Lubuntu
> Qt (which basically locks up the computer forcing me to drop to a tty
> and reboot), though I had hoped it would allow me to test out the
> current state of LXQt.  Are there plans to add pcmanfmQt, and all the
> other LXQt pieces into Trusty?  I have been contemplating switching my
> machine over to Trusty pretty soon so start testing everything out, so I
> am wondering if the components for LXQt are already in the repos for
> Trusty, and if not if someone has a ppa that I can use to test it out.
> Razor Qt is ok as a DE, but still missing a lot of features I like, and
> can only use a handful of themes.
>
> --
> Regards
>
>
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Razor Qt and LXQt

2013-12-29 Thread Israel 
Hey has anyone else tried out Razor Qt?  As I understand it this will
eventually be fully merged with LXQt.  I have a session called Lubuntu
Qt (which basically locks up the computer forcing me to drop to a tty
and reboot), though I had hoped it would allow me to test out the
current state of LXQt.  Are there plans to add pcmanfmQt, and all the
other LXQt pieces into Trusty?  I have been contemplating switching my
machine over to Trusty pretty soon so start testing everything out, so I
am wondering if the components for LXQt are already in the repos for
Trusty, and if not if someone has a ppa that I can use to test it out.
Razor Qt is ok as a DE, but still missing a lot of features I like, and
can only use a handful of themes.

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