Re: [lubuntu-users] Apart from this I'm using syslinux instead of grub2.

2020-07-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
A starting point: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Syslinux

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Re: [lubuntu-users] Apart from this I'm using syslinux instead of grub2.

2020-07-29 Thread Fritz Hudnut
Ralf:

I just did a quick search on the googly and it seems like syslinux is for
"MS/DOS" or "BIOS" and/or possibly "FAT32" systems??  It didn't seem to
mention Macs, although it did show something on "UEFI" . . . but then one
item was saying, "It won't boot ext2 systems"???  So it seems like syslinux
is also "going back" in the history of linux in the time before apple was
considered "adequate" . . . .

But, I think sometime in the next year or so I will be trying to find a PC
laptop, or a  "built for linux" laptop . . . and that would likely have the
"BIOS" and "MBR" items that might be friendlier to syslinux

Seems like what I might have seen in OpenSUSE was some "syslinux" package
or app, which might not be the same as the "syslinux bootloader" that is
BIOS friendly and only boots "MS/DOS" and/or Fat32 formatted systems???

I know that in Mac the EFI boot partition is formatted as FAT32 . . . so
question is . . . is that meeting the requirements for booting via
syslinux, or nope it don't do Macintoshes . . . ???

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:40 PM Ralf Mardorf 
wrote:

> PPS:
>
> For my Xenial install I'm using links, I have to manually update, so
> that I don't need to fix my syslinux.cfg:
>
> [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ /usr/bin/ls -hl /.boot/ubuntu_moonstudio/boot/
> total 114M
> -rw--- 1 root root 3.8M Jul  1 09:30 System.map-4.4.0-186-lowlatency
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3.2M Nov 15  2019
> System.map-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 187K Jul  1 09:30 config-4.4.0-186-lowlatency
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 213K Nov 15  2019 config-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K May  7 06:09 grub
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  37M Jul 21 04:50 initrd.img-4.4.0-186-lowlatency
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  54M Jun 13 18:23
> initrd.img-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   36 Nov 26  2019 initrd.img-liquorix ->
> initrd.img-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   31 Jul 21 04:58 initrd.img-lowlatency ->
> initrd.img-4.4.0-186-lowlatency
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 179K Jan 28  2016 memtest86+.bin
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 181K Jan 28  2016 memtest86+.elf
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 181K Jan 28  2016 memtest86+_multiboot.bin
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Aug  6  2018 s3.archlinux
> -rw--- 1 root root 7.0M Jul  6 11:18 vmlinuz-4.4.0-186-lowlatency
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9.0M Nov 15  2019 vmlinuz-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   33 Nov 26  2019 vmlinuz-liquorix ->
> vmlinuz-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   28 Jul 21 04:58 vmlinuz-lowlatency ->
> vmlinuz-4.4.0-186-lowlatency
>
> --
> /usr/bin/ls since 'ls' is an alias on my install:
> [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ alias ls
> alias ls='lsd'
>
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Apart from this I'm using syslinux instead of grub2.

2020-07-29 Thread Fritz Hudnut
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:51 PM Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:34:54 -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
> >got a good laugh out of the "Hal 9000" line . . . classic geek humor
> >there
>
> Using a computer without a sense of dark humour is really dangerous!
>

Indeed it is . . . and the reference to Hal 9000 is "the stuff of the dark
web" . . . i.e., extra dark stuff . . . .  : - 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Apart from this I'm using syslinux instead of grub2.

2020-07-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:34:54 -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>got a good laugh out of the "Hal 9000" line . . . classic geek humor
>there  

Using a computer without a sense of dark humour is really dangerous!

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Re: [lubuntu-users] Apart from this I'm using syslinux instead of grub2.

2020-07-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PPS:

For my Xenial install I'm using links, I have to manually update, so
that I don't need to fix my syslinux.cfg:

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ /usr/bin/ls -hl /.boot/ubuntu_moonstudio/boot/
total 114M
-rw--- 1 root root 3.8M Jul  1 09:30 System.map-4.4.0-186-lowlatency
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3.2M Nov 15  2019 System.map-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 187K Jul  1 09:30 config-4.4.0-186-lowlatency
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 213K Nov 15  2019 config-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4.0K May  7 06:09 grub
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  37M Jul 21 04:50 initrd.img-4.4.0-186-lowlatency
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  54M Jun 13 18:23 initrd.img-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   36 Nov 26  2019 initrd.img-liquorix -> 
initrd.img-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   31 Jul 21 04:58 initrd.img-lowlatency -> 
initrd.img-4.4.0-186-lowlatency
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 179K Jan 28  2016 memtest86+.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 181K Jan 28  2016 memtest86+.elf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 181K Jan 28  2016 memtest86+_multiboot.bin
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Aug  6  2018 s3.archlinux
-rw--- 1 root root 7.0M Jul  6 11:18 vmlinuz-4.4.0-186-lowlatency
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 9.0M Nov 15  2019 vmlinuz-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   33 Nov 26  2019 vmlinuz-liquorix -> 
vmlinuz-5.3.0-11.2-liquorix-amd64
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   28 Jul 21 04:58 vmlinuz-lowlatency -> 
vmlinuz-4.4.0-186-lowlatency

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[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ alias ls
alias ls='lsd'

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Re: [lubuntu-users] Apart from this I'm using syslinux instead of grub2.

2020-07-29 Thread Fritz Hudnut
Ralf:

Thanks for sharing that data . . . it looks like "French" right now to this
redneck hippie 'merican . . . so I'll have to study it for awhile . . . .
But, got a good laugh out of the "Hal 9000" line . . . classic geek humor
there . . . .  Somewhere recently I used the "Dave . . . stop . . . stop .
. . Dave . . . please stop . . . stop." line, but it didn't seem to be
"recognized" for the high value humor that it should have provided . . . .
: - 0

F

On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:25 PM Ralf Mardorf 
wrote:

> PS:
>
> I've got experiences with chainloading FreeBSD and Windows when using
> grub legacy and grub2, but not with syslinux.
>
> My syslinux multi-boot PC is a Linux only multi-boot _and_ I never
> used, neither with grub, nor with syslinux, anything secure boot/(U)EFI
> related.
>
> That's my current syslinux.cfg:
>
> [rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /boot/syslinux/syslinux.cfg
> # Syslinux
> #   http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/Doc/menu
> #
> # Mitigations linux >= 5.1.13
> #
> https://linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_make_Linux_run_blazing_fast_(again)_on_Intel_CPUs
> #   mitigations=off
> #
> # Misc
> #   grep . /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/* | cut -d/ -f7
> #   audit=off
>
> PROMPT 0
> TIMEOUT 600
> UI menu.c32
> MENU HIDDEN
> MENU CLEAR
> MENU COLOR screen  0;30;40
> MENU COLOR border  0;30;40
> MENU COLOR title   1;37;44
> MENU COLOR unsel   0;37;40
> MENU COLOR hotkey  1;37;40
> MENU COLOR hotsel  7;37;40
> MENU COLOR sel 7;37;40
> MENU COLOR disabled1;37;40
> MENU COLOR scrollbar   0;30;40
> MENU COLOR tabmsg  0;30;40
> MENU COLOR cmdmark 0;31;40
> MENU COLOR cmdline 0;37;40
> MENU COLOR timeout_msg 0;37;40
> MENU COLOR timeout 1;37;40
>
> # Used hotkeys: ^8 ^A ^C ^e ^f ^g ^H ^i (^l) ^M ^n ^o ^P ^Q ^R ^S ^t ^V
> (^X) ^y
> KBDMAP  de.ktl
> DEFAULT Securityink
>
> MENU TITLE HAL 9000-s3
> LABEL Toolbox
> MENU LABEL Toolbox
> MENU DISABLE
> MENU SEPARATOR
>
>
> LABEL Hardware
> MENU LABEL ^Hardware Detection
> COM32 hdt.c32
>
> LABEL Memtest
> MENU LABEL Memtest^86+
> LINUX /.boot/ubuntu_moonstudio/boot/memtest86+.bin
>
> LABEL Reset
> MENU LABEL R^eset
> COM32 reboot.c32
>
>
> MENU SEPARATOR
> MENU SEPARATOR
> LABEL Arch Menu
> MENU LABEL Arch Linux
> MENU DISABLE
> MENU SEPARATOR
>
>
> LABEL Threadirqs
> MENU LABEL Arch Linux ^threadirqs
> LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux
> APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro threadirqs
> INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux.img
>
> LABEL Threadirqs_no_mitigations
> MENU LABEL Arch Linux threadirqs  ^no mitigations
> LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux
> APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro threadirqs mitigations=off audit=off
> INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux.img
>
> LABEL Securityink
> MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt ^Securityink
> LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-securityink
> APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro
> INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-securityink.img
>
> LABEL Securityink_no_mitigations
> MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt Securityink  no m^itigations
> LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-securityink
> APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro noibrs noibpb nopti nospectre_v2
> nospectre_v1 l1tf=off nospec_store_bypass_disable no_stf_barrier mds=off
> mitigations=off
> INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-securityink.img
>
> LABEL Pussytoes
> MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt ^Pussytoes
> LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-pussytoes
> APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro
> INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-pussytoes.img
>
> LABEL Pussytoes_no_mitigations
> MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt Puss^ytoesno mitigations
> LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-pussytoes
> #APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro mitigations=off
> APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro noibrs noibpb nopti nospectre_v2
> nospectre_v1 l1tf=off nospec_store_bypass_disable no_stf_barrier mds=off
> mitigations=off
> INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-pussytoes.img
>
> LABEL Cornflower
> MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt ^Cornflower
> LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-cornflower
> APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro
> INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-cornflower.img
>
> LABEL Cornflower_no_mitigations
> MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt Corn^flower   no mitigations
> LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-cornflower
> #APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro mitigations=off audit=off
> APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro mitigations=off
> INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-cornflower.img
>
> LABEL Rt
> MENU LABEL Arch Linux ^Rt
> LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt
> APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro
> INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt.img
>
> LABEL Rt_no_mitigations
> MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt  n^o mitigations
> LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt
> APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro mitigations=off
> INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt.img
>
> LABEL 

Re: [lubuntu-users] Apart from this I'm using syslinux instead of grub2.

2020-07-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
PS:

I've got experiences with chainloading FreeBSD and Windows when using
grub legacy and grub2, but not with syslinux.

My syslinux multi-boot PC is a Linux only multi-boot _and_ I never
used, neither with grub, nor with syslinux, anything secure boot/(U)EFI
related.

That's my current syslinux.cfg:

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ cat /boot/syslinux/syslinux.cfg
# Syslinux
#   http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/Doc/menu
#
# Mitigations linux >= 5.1.13
#   
https://linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_make_Linux_run_blazing_fast_(again)_on_Intel_CPUs
#   mitigations=off
#
# Misc
#   grep . /sys/devices/system/cpu/vulnerabilities/* | cut -d/ -f7
#   audit=off

PROMPT 0
TIMEOUT 600
UI menu.c32
MENU HIDDEN
MENU CLEAR
MENU COLOR screen  0;30;40
MENU COLOR border  0;30;40
MENU COLOR title   1;37;44
MENU COLOR unsel   0;37;40
MENU COLOR hotkey  1;37;40
MENU COLOR hotsel  7;37;40
MENU COLOR sel 7;37;40
MENU COLOR disabled1;37;40
MENU COLOR scrollbar   0;30;40
MENU COLOR tabmsg  0;30;40
MENU COLOR cmdmark 0;31;40
MENU COLOR cmdline 0;37;40
MENU COLOR timeout_msg 0;37;40
MENU COLOR timeout 1;37;40

# Used hotkeys: ^8 ^A ^C ^e ^f ^g ^H ^i (^l) ^M ^n ^o ^P ^Q ^R ^S ^t ^V (^X) ^y
KBDMAP  de.ktl
DEFAULT Securityink

MENU TITLE HAL 9000-s3
LABEL Toolbox
MENU LABEL Toolbox
MENU DISABLE
MENU SEPARATOR


LABEL Hardware
MENU LABEL ^Hardware Detection
COM32 hdt.c32

LABEL Memtest
MENU LABEL Memtest^86+
LINUX /.boot/ubuntu_moonstudio/boot/memtest86+.bin

LABEL Reset
MENU LABEL R^eset
COM32 reboot.c32


MENU SEPARATOR
MENU SEPARATOR
LABEL Arch Menu
MENU LABEL Arch Linux
MENU DISABLE
MENU SEPARATOR


LABEL Threadirqs
MENU LABEL Arch Linux ^threadirqs
LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux
APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro threadirqs
INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux.img

LABEL Threadirqs_no_mitigations
MENU LABEL Arch Linux threadirqs  ^no mitigations
LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux
APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro threadirqs mitigations=off audit=off
INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux.img

LABEL Securityink
MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt ^Securityink
LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-securityink
APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro
INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-securityink.img

LABEL Securityink_no_mitigations
MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt Securityink  no m^itigations
LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-securityink
APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro noibrs noibpb nopti nospectre_v2 
nospectre_v1 l1tf=off nospec_store_bypass_disable no_stf_barrier mds=off 
mitigations=off
INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-securityink.img

LABEL Pussytoes
MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt ^Pussytoes
LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-pussytoes
APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro
INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-pussytoes.img

LABEL Pussytoes_no_mitigations
MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt Puss^ytoesno mitigations
LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-pussytoes
#APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro mitigations=off
APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro noibrs noibpb nopti nospectre_v2 
nospectre_v1 l1tf=off nospec_store_bypass_disable no_stf_barrier mds=off 
mitigations=off
INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-pussytoes.img

LABEL Cornflower
MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt ^Cornflower
LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-cornflower
APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro
INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-cornflower.img

LABEL Cornflower_no_mitigations
MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt Corn^flower   no mitigations
LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt-cornflower
#APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro mitigations=off audit=off
APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro mitigations=off
INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt-cornflower.img

LABEL Rt
MENU LABEL Arch Linux ^Rt
LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt
APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro
INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt.img

LABEL Rt_no_mitigations
MENU LABEL Arch Linux Rt  n^o mitigations
LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux-rt
APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro mitigations=off
INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux-rt.img

LABEL Arch
MENU LABEL ^Arch Linux
LINUX ../vmlinuz-linux
APPEND root=LABEL=s3.archlinux ro
INITRD ../intel-ucode.img,../initramfs-linux.img


MENU SEPARATOR
MENU SEPARATOR
LABEL Other Menu
MENU LABEL Other Linux
MENU DISABLE
MENU SEPARATOR


LABEL Moonstudio_liquorix
MENU LABEL Ubuntu X Moon Studio ^liquorix threadirqs
LINUX /.boot/ubuntu_moonstudio/boot/vmlinuz-liquorix
APPEND root=LABEL=moonstudio ro threadirqs
INITRD /.boot/ubuntu_moonstudio/boot/initrd.img-liquorix

LABEL Moonstudio_liquorix_no_mitigations
MENU LABEL Ubuntu ^X Moon Studio liquorix threadirqs no mitigations
LINUX /.boot/ubuntu_moonstudio/boot/vmlinuz-liquorix
APPEND root=LABEL=moonstudio ro threadirqs mitigations=off audit=off
INITRD 

Re: [lubuntu-users] Apart from this I'm using syslinux instead of grub2.

2020-07-29 Thread Fritz Hudnut
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 3:03 PM Ralf Mardorf 
wrote:

> Hi Fritz,
>
> it comes with a learning curve ;).
>
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 14:20:18 -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
> >Any pointers on why you choose syslinux over grub2??
>
> For me the pros of syslinux are
>
> - I do not need to disable insane automation, as I had to do (depending
>   on the distro providing it) for grub2
> - I do not need to tidy up a default config, to get rid of clutter
>
> For me the con of syslinux is
>
> - I'm either forced to use chainloading or as I do, to use one
>   partition for the kernels of all installs and (not necessarily) to
>   bind mount [1]
>
> In my case 2 pros vs one con.
>
> Actually there are a lot of more pros and cons for both, syslinux as
> well as grub2, depending on the users needs. For me just the mentioned
> matter.
>
> On 'apt' based distros, such as the Ubuntu flavour Lubuntu, you can
> 'dpkg-divert' [2] 'grub-mkconfig' and 'update-grub' to get rid of the
> insane automation and usage of configs, to generate cluttered configs.
> Instead manually edit a clean grub.cfg and don't worry about any
> automation that could mess up anything.
>
> FWIW I'm using syslinux of my Arch Linux install, not from my Ubuntu
> Xenial install.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
>
> [1]
> [weremouse@moonstudio src]$ grep bind /etc/fstab
> /mnt/archlinux/.boot/ubuntu_moonstudio/boot /boot  none   bind
>   0 0
>
> [2]
> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/dpkg-divert.1.html
>
>
> @Ralf:
Thanks for the fast reply . . . indeed, there usually is "a learning curve"
. . . I was thinking after I posted that it might be "a nightmare" to try
to get my Mac Pro with 4 drives with multiple installs spread across each
of them, all switched over from Grub2 . . . without creating a "mess"
beyond the mess that I have now.

It seems like grub2 must "memorize" all of the systems that have ever been
installed or booted by Grub2 . . . because in SG2 disk the list of all of
the various "cfg's" . . . what "vmlinuz" and all of the other overlaps that
might boot something up . . . are all listed there and it's a "very long
list."

Maybe 6 months back I had a Sid linux distro installed and it turned out to
be "unfriendly" to the other distros and removed data across partitions and
possibly drives AND it messed up grub2 . . . and I had a thread on the
opensuse forum that was huugggeee with guys trying to help me figure out
how to get grub2 all tidy again . . . and in spite of what was pretty high
level help . . . nothing seemed to get grub2 "freshened" to just show the
current installs . . . it remina as you say, "cluttered."

It might be easier to fiddle with my olde laptop that only has two OSX
installs and one Manjaro . . . Manjaro is stacked on Arch, right??  That
install is my first or second Arch based install . . . might be "easier" to
get over to syslinux in that computer and if it blows up . . . not too
difficult to do a fresh install???

Or, is this something that is easier to do with a fresh install and then
instead of flagging the EFI boot partition with "grub2" . . . there's a
drop down choice for "syslinux"??

I was trying to figure out if Xenial is 16.04???  Ancient history man,
didn't they just "drop support" for it a couple weeks back???  Check out
Groovy . . . the water is "fine" in the 20.10 game.  : - 
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Re: [lubuntu-users] Apart from this I'm using syslinux instead of grub2.

2020-07-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi Fritz,

it comes with a learning curve ;).

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 14:20:18 -0700, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>Any pointers on why you choose syslinux over grub2??

For me the pros of syslinux are

- I do not need to disable insane automation, as I had to do (depending
  on the distro providing it) for grub2
- I do not need to tidy up a default config, to get rid of clutter

For me the con of syslinux is

- I'm either forced to use chainloading or as I do, to use one
  partition for the kernels of all installs and (not necessarily) to
  bind mount [1]

In my case 2 pros vs one con.

Actually there are a lot of more pros and cons for both, syslinux as
well as grub2, depending on the users needs. For me just the mentioned
matter.

On 'apt' based distros, such as the Ubuntu flavour Lubuntu, you can
'dpkg-divert' [2] 'grub-mkconfig' and 'update-grub' to get rid of the
insane automation and usage of configs, to generate cluttered configs.
Instead manually edit a clean grub.cfg and don't worry about any
automation that could mess up anything.

FWIW I'm using syslinux of my Arch Linux install, not from my Ubuntu
Xenial install.

Regards,
Ralf

[1]
[weremouse@moonstudio src]$ grep bind /etc/fstab
/mnt/archlinux/.boot/ubuntu_moonstudio/boot /boot  none   bind  
0 0

[2]
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/dpkg-divert.1.html



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