Re: Too many open files issue

2004-11-26 Thread Doug Cutting
John Wang wrote:
In the Lucene code, I don't see where the reader speicified when
creating a field is closed. That holds on to the file.
I am looking at DocumentWriter.invertDocument()
It is closed in a finally clause on line 170, when the TokenStream is 
closed.

Doug
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Re: Too many open files issue

2004-11-24 Thread John Wang
I have also seen this problem.

In the Lucene code, I don't see where the reader speicified when
creating a field is closed. That holds on to the file.

I am looking at DocumentWriter.invertDocument()

Thanks

-John


On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:21:35 -0600, Chris Lamprecht
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 A useful resource for increasing the number of file handles on various
 operating systems is the Volano Report:
 
 http://www.volano.com/report/
 
 
 
  I had requested help on an issue we have been facing with the Too many
  open files Exception garbling the search indexes and crashing the
  search on the web site.
 
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Too many open files issue

2004-11-22 Thread Neelam Bhatnagar
Hi,
 
I had requested help on an issue we have been facing with the Too many
open files Exception garbling the search indexes and crashing the
search on the web site. 
As a suggestion, you had asked us to look at the articles on O'Reilly
Network which had specific context around this exact problem. 
One of the suggestions was to increase the limit on the number of file
descriptors on the file system. We tried it by first lowering the limit
to 200 from 256 in order to reproduce the exception. The exception did
get reproduced but even after increasing the limit to 500, the exception
kept coming until after several rounds of trying to rebuild the index,
we finally got to get it working for the default file descriptor limit
of 256.  This makes us wonder if your first suggestion of optimizing
indexes is a pre-requisite to trying this option. 
 
Another piece of relevant information is that we have the default merge
factor of 10.
 
Kindly give us pointers to what it that we are doing wrong or should we
be trying something completely different.
 
Thanks and regards
Neelam Bhatnagar
 


RE: Too many open files issue

2004-11-22 Thread Will Allen
If you are on linux the number of file handles for a session is much lower than 
that for the whole machine.  ulimit -n will tell you.  There are instructions 
on the web for changing this setting, it involves the /etc/security/limits.conf 
and setting the values for nofile.

(bulkadm is my user)

bulkadm softnofile  8192
bulkadm hardnofile  65536

Also, if you use the condensed file format you will have many fewer files.

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Hi,
 
I had requested help on an issue we have been facing with the Too many
open files Exception garbling the search indexes and crashing the
search on the web site. 
As a suggestion, you had asked us to look at the articles on O'Reilly
Network which had specific context around this exact problem. 
One of the suggestions was to increase the limit on the number of file
descriptors on the file system. We tried it by first lowering the limit
to 200 from 256 in order to reproduce the exception. The exception did
get reproduced but even after increasing the limit to 500, the exception
kept coming until after several rounds of trying to rebuild the index,
we finally got to get it working for the default file descriptor limit
of 256.  This makes us wonder if your first suggestion of optimizing
indexes is a pre-requisite to trying this option. 
 
Another piece of relevant information is that we have the default merge
factor of 10.
 
Kindly give us pointers to what it that we are doing wrong or should we
be trying something completely different.
 
Thanks and regards
Neelam Bhatnagar
 

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Re: Too many open files issue

2004-11-22 Thread Dmitry
I'm sorry, I wasn't involved in the original conversation but maybe I 
can jump in with some info that will help.

The number of files depends on the merge factor, number of segments, and 
number of indexed fields in your index. It also depends on whether you 
are using compound files or not (this is a flag on the IndexWriter). 
With compound files flag on, segments have fixed number of files, 
regardless of how many fields you use. Without the flag, each field is a 
separate file.

Let's say you have 10 segments (per your merge factor) that are being 
merged into a new segment (via an optimize call or just because you have 
reached the merge factor). This means there are 11 segments open at the 
same time. If you have 20 indexed fields and are not using compound 
files, that's 20 * 11 = 220 files. There are a few other files open as 
well, plus whatever other files and sockets that your JVM process is 
holding open at that time. This would include incoming connections, for 
example, if this is running inside a web server. If you are running in 
an application server, this could include connections and files open by 
other applications in that same app server.

So the numbers run up quite a bit.
By the way, it is usual to have the file descriptors limit set at 9000 
or so for unix machines running production web applications. By the way 
2, on Solaris, you will need to modify a value in /etc/systems to get up 
to this level. Not sure about Linux or other flavors.

Another suggestion - you may want to look into a tool called lsof. It 
is a utility that will show file handles open by a particular process. 
It could be that some other part of your process (or of the application 
server, VM, etc) is not closing files. This tool will help you see what 
files are open and you can validate that all of the really need to be open.

Best of luck.
Dmitry.
Neelam Bhatnagar wrote:
Hi,
I had requested help on an issue we have been facing with the Too many
open files Exception garbling the search indexes and crashing the
search on the web site. 
As a suggestion, you had asked us to look at the articles on O'Reilly
Network which had specific context around this exact problem. 
One of the suggestions was to increase the limit on the number of file
descriptors on the file system. We tried it by first lowering the limit
to 200 from 256 in order to reproduce the exception. The exception did
get reproduced but even after increasing the limit to 500, the exception
kept coming until after several rounds of trying to rebuild the index,
we finally got to get it working for the default file descriptor limit
of 256.  This makes us wonder if your first suggestion of optimizing
indexes is a pre-requisite to trying this option. 

Another piece of relevant information is that we have the default merge
factor of 10.
Kindly give us pointers to what it that we are doing wrong or should we
be trying something completely different.
Thanks and regards
Neelam Bhatnagar
 


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Re: Too many open files issue

2004-11-22 Thread Chris Lamprecht
A useful resource for increasing the number of file handles on various
operating systems is the Volano Report:

http://www.volano.com/report/

 I had requested help on an issue we have been facing with the Too many
 open files Exception garbling the search indexes and crashing the
 search on the web site.

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