Re: lug-bg: Още за кирилицата в KDE3
×àêàé ìàëêî Êàêúâ å ïðîáëåìà ? Îùå îò KDE 2.2 å íåîáõîäèìî äà ñè ñåòíåø ìèíèìóì Äúðæàâà "Áúëãàðèÿ" çà äà ðàáîòè êèðèëèöàòà êàêòî òðÿáâà. Àêî íå ñè ãî íàïðàâèë, òî ïðîñòî íÿìà íà÷èí ïðèëîæåíèåòî äà ðàçáåðå çà êàêâî ñòàâà âúðïîñ. Âÿðíî å, ÷å â KDE 2.2 ìîæåøå äà óêàæåø è êîäèðîâêà. Íî òîâà ñåãà ïðîñòî íå å íóæíî. 1. LANG=bg_BG ñå ñëàãà èëè â /etc/sysconfig/i18n -> (Çà RedHat, Mandrake,...) èëè â ~/.bash_profile. Èëè íàé-äîáðå äà ñå íàñòðîè â K->Setting->Personalization->Country & Languages 2. Ïðîáâàé è: K->Settings->System-> Font Installer Èíñòàëèðàé ñè îòòàì TTF Øðèôòîâå è èçáåðè ãåíåðèðàíå íà AFM ñ òâúðäî óêàçàíà êîäèðîâêà cp-1251. Ïðè÷èíàòà ñïîðåä ìåí å, ÷å QT 3.x ïîääúðæà îñíîâíî Unicode 3 (àêî íå ñå ëúæà çà âåðñèÿòà). Íà ÷ò, 2002-06-06 â 20:27, Àíãåë Âúëêîâ çàïèñà: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Äíåñ ñëåä èçðåæäàíå íà åäèí êóï âõîäíè êîäèðîâêè çà iconv óñòàíîâèõ, ÷å > íå-÷åòåíåòî/ïèñàíåòî íà êèðèöà â konsole íà KDE3 âàæè çà âñè÷êè ïðèëîæåíèÿ. > Äà ïðèïîìíÿ ìàëêî çà êàêâî ñòàâàøå äóìà. > Ïðåäè èçâåñòíî âðåìå Ãåîðãè Ãåîðèåâ ñå îïëàêà, ÷å íå ìîæå äà ïèøå( ÷åòå ) > êèðèöà â "konsole" ïîä KDE 3. Ñëåä êîåòî ãî ïîñúâåòâàõ äà ñè ñåòíå LANG=bg_BG > (ïðèìåðíî â .xinitrc ïðåäè exec startkde ), è ìó ñå ïîÿâè ïðîáëåìà ñúñ > SIGSEGV è ò.í. > Äíåñ óñòàíîâèõ, ÷å àêî ñå îïèòàì äà îòâîâÿ òåêñòîâ ôàéë ñ êîäèðîâêà CP1251 è > LANG!=bg_BG(íàïðèìåð ñ kwrite), ñúùî íÿìà äà ñå ÷åòå è íàé-âàæíîòî íÿìà íà÷èí > äà ñå óêàæå êàêâà êîäèðîâêà ñå ïîëçâà. > Ïðè÷èíàòà: QT3 íå ïîääúðæà ìåòîäèòå è ñâîéñòâàòà èçâåñòíè îò QT2 çà > "íàñèëñòâåíî" óñòàíîâÿâàíå/çàäàâàíå íà êîäèðîâêàòà. Âìåñòî òîâà òÿ ñå > óñòàíîâÿâà àâòîìàòè÷íî( âúòðåøíî çà QT) â çàâèñèìîñò îò ëîêàëà. Ïðè÷èíàòà ìè > ñå ìÿðíà îùå ñíîùè äîêàòî ðîâèõ èç äîêóìåíòàöèÿòà íà QT3 ñâúðçàíà ñ > ïîðòâàíåòî îò QT2, àìà íàëè ñúì ñè "àëáàíñêè ðåîòàí" òðÿáâàøå äà ñå ìú÷à ñ > iconv ñ âñè÷êè êèðèëñêè êîäèðîâêè çà äà îòâîðÿ åäèí òåêñòîâ ôàéë ñ CP1251. À > ïðîáëåìà áèë â òåêñòîâèÿ ðåäàêòîð , à íå â ñàìèÿ òåêñò. > > Êðàé íà âñè÷êè õàêîâå çà êèðèëèçèðàíå.( Ïîëîæåíèåòî ñ êèðèëèöàòà â KDE2 ïî ìè > õàðåñâàøå). Òåçè îãðàíè÷åíèÿ íàä âúçìîæíîñòòà çà êîíòðîë íàä ñ-ìàòà ìíîãî ìè > íàïîìíÿò çà ïîäîáíè îò "îíàÿ" OS, ïðè íÿêîè âåðñèè íà êîÿòî å íåîõîäèì > reinstall çà äà ñå êèðèëèçèðàø. ( áåç ðàçíè áîçè êàòî FlexType èìàì ïðåäâèä ) > :( > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQE8/8W2mx3uqe61brwRAsDsAKCvLvCZVY20p7193Yhofx/BIHcFHACfSFGM > STZgxjiBRT7rkCEM0rcTVns= > =o5Gi > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: BG parliament channel and Kalchev.
Na men ne mi e interesno. Izkam realni rezultati, ne objasnenijata na edin ministur s mnogo vuprositelni okolo svetlata mu tvor4eska dejnost. Objasnenijata trjabva da se davat pred upulnomoshtenite za tova organi - sledstvie, sud i prokuratura. On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Vladimir Gerdjikov wrote: > Çäðàâåéòå "ãðóïà", > àêî íÿêîé ñå ñåùà èìàøå ïðîáëåì $14M è Ì$. Äíåñ (07.06.2002) ã-í > Êàë÷åâ ùå îòãîâàðÿ íà àêòóàëíîòî ïèòàíå ïî âúïðîñà. Ùå ãî ïðåäàâàò > ïî ïàðëàìåíòàðíèÿ êàíàë íà ðàäèîòî. Ëè÷íî íà ìåí ìè å èíòåðåñíî > êàêâè ïðîñòîòèè ùå îáÿñíÿâà. À íà âàñ? > > Best regards, > > Vladimir Gerdjikov > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Re: Sreshta
Abe tjab beshe v 20:00, ama netrjabvashe da go pishesh v LUG-a. :)). On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Asen Georgiev wrote: > znachi dneska ot 20:00 ? > > > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: BG parliament channel and Kalchev.
Kakvo ima da go slushash:))) Shte ti otgovori dostoino i po masonski:)) Taka, che nishto da ne razeresh i da se chuvstvash vinoven za tova, che ne razbirash po princip nerazbiraemi neshta:) Slavobludstvoto ne e chuzhdo za tezi hora, chuzda im e samo bistrata i iasna misal. :)) Vesselin On Friday 07 June 2002 08:40, you wrote: > Çäðàâåéòå "ãðóïà", > àêî íÿêîé ñå ñåùà èìàøå ïðîáëåì $14M è Ì$. Äíåñ (07.06.2002) ã-í > Êàë÷åâ ùå îòãîâàðÿ íà àêòóàëíîòî ïèòàíå ïî âúïðîñà. Ùå ãî ïðåäàâàò > ïî ïàðëàìåíòàðíèÿ êàíàë íà ðàäèîòî. Ëè÷íî íà ìåí ìè å èíòåðåñíî > êàêâè ïðîñòîòèè ùå îáÿñíÿâà. À íà âàñ? > > Best regards, > > Vladimir Gerdjikov > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: BG parliament channel and Kalchev.
Çäðàâåéòå "ãðóïà", àêî íÿêîé ñå ñåùà èìàøå ïðîáëåì $14M è Ì$. Äíåñ (07.06.2002) ã-í Êàë÷åâ ùå îòãîâàðÿ íà àêòóàëíîòî ïèòàíå ïî âúïðîñà. Ùå ãî ïðåäàâàò ïî ïàðëàìåíòàðíèÿ êàíàë íà ðàäèîòî. Ëè÷íî íà ìåí ìè å èíòåðåñíî êàêâè ïðîñòîòèè ùå îáÿñíÿâà. À íà âàñ? Best regards, Vladimir Gerdjikov mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zdraveyte "grupa", ako nyakoy se seshta imashe problem $14M i M$. Dnes (07.06.2002) g-n Kalchev shte otgovarya na aktualnoto pitane po vaprosa. SHTe go predavat po parlamentarniya kanal po radioto. Lichno na men mi e interesno kakvi prostotii shte obyasnyava. A na vas? p.s. tova sa nashite pari, vse pak.
lug-bg: Още за кирилицата в KDE3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Äíåñ ñëåä èçðåæäàíå íà åäèí êóï âõîäíè êîäèðîâêè çà iconv óñòàíîâèõ, ÷å íå-÷åòåíåòî/ïèñàíåòî íà êèðèöà â konsole íà KDE3 âàæè çà âñè÷êè ïðèëîæåíèÿ. Äà ïðèïîìíÿ ìàëêî çà êàêâî ñòàâàøå äóìà. Ïðåäè èçâåñòíî âðåìå Ãåîðãè Ãåîðèåâ ñå îïëàêà, ÷å íå ìîæå äà ïèøå( ÷åòå ) êèðèöà â "konsole" ïîä KDE 3. Ñëåä êîåòî ãî ïîñúâåòâàõ äà ñè ñåòíå LANG=bg_BG (ïðèìåðíî â .xinitrc ïðåäè exec startkde ), è ìó ñå ïîÿâè ïðîáëåìà ñúñ SIGSEGV è ò.í. Äíåñ óñòàíîâèõ, ÷å àêî ñå îïèòàì äà îòâîâÿ òåêñòîâ ôàéë ñ êîäèðîâêà CP1251 è LANG!=bg_BG(íàïðèìåð ñ kwrite), ñúùî íÿìà äà ñå ÷åòå è íàé-âàæíîòî íÿìà íà÷èí äà ñå óêàæå êàêâà êîäèðîâêà ñå ïîëçâà. Ïðè÷èíàòà: QT3 íå ïîääúðæà ìåòîäèòå è ñâîéñòâàòà èçâåñòíè îò QT2 çà "íàñèëñòâåíî" óñòàíîâÿâàíå/çàäàâàíå íà êîäèðîâêàòà. Âìåñòî òîâà òÿ ñå óñòàíîâÿâà àâòîìàòè÷íî( âúòðåøíî çà QT) â çàâèñèìîñò îò ëîêàëà. Ïðè÷èíàòà ìè ñå ìÿðíà îùå ñíîùè äîêàòî ðîâèõ èç äîêóìåíòàöèÿòà íà QT3 ñâúðçàíà ñ ïîðòâàíåòî îò QT2, àìà íàëè ñúì ñè "àëáàíñêè ðåîòàí" òðÿáâàøå äà ñå ìú÷à ñ iconv ñ âñè÷êè êèðèëñêè êîäèðîâêè çà äà îòâîðÿ åäèí òåêñòîâ ôàéë ñ CP1251. À ïðîáëåìà áèë â òåêñòîâèÿ ðåäàêòîð , à íå â ñàìèÿ òåêñò. Êðàé íà âñè÷êè õàêîâå çà êèðèëèçèðàíå.( Ïîëîæåíèåòî ñ êèðèëèöàòà â KDE2 ïî ìè õàðåñâàøå). Òåçè îãðàíè÷åíèÿ íàä âúçìîæíîñòòà çà êîíòðîë íàä ñ-ìàòà ìíîãî ìè íàïîìíÿò çà ïîäîáíè îò "îíàÿ" OS, ïðè íÿêîè âåðñèè íà êîÿòî å íåîõîäèì reinstall çà äà ñå êèðèëèçèðàø. ( áåç ðàçíè áîçè êàòî FlexType èìàì ïðåäâèä ) :( -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE8/8W2mx3uqe61brwRAsDsAKCvLvCZVY20p7193Yhofx/BIHcFHACfSFGM STZgxjiBRT7rkCEM0rcTVns= =o5Gi -END PGP SIGNATURE- A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Mozilla 1.0 and Mozilla RC3 with bulgarian interface`
Àõà, ðàáîòè! Peter Stoilov wrote: > Ãëåäàì ÷å Mozilla èìà è ïðîâåðêà íà ïðàâîïèñà (íå ñå èíñòàëèðà ñ îñíîâíàòà > èíñòàëàöèÿ çàùîòî å îùå áåòà). Êîãàòî îò ïðîñëåäèõ ëèíêà çà download íà > ðå÷íèöè ñå îçîâàõ íà ñàéòà íà OpenOffice! Òîâà äàëè íå çíà÷è ÷å àêî ñè > èíñòàëèðàì ðå÷íèêà íà Ðàäîñòèí Ðàäíåâ ùå ñè èìàì ïðîâåðêà íà ïðàâîïèñà íà > Áúëãàðñêè? > > > - Original Message - > From: "George Danchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 12:51 > Subject: lug-bg: Mozilla 1.0 and Mozilla RC3 with bulgarian interface ` > > > >>Äíåñ ìå ïðèáèõà ñ èçíåíàäè ... >>ïúðâî Mozilla 1.0 release, ïîñëå è èíòåðôåéñ íà áúëãàðñêè è íàïðàâî ñè > > ñ÷óïèõ > >>êàëâèàòóðàòà îò êåô ... ïðè ìåí òðúãíà ïîä Ëèíóêñ (äåáèëèàí), ïîä Âèíäîâñ >>ñúùî íå áè òðÿáâàëî äà èìà ïðîáëåìè ... Èíôî: >>http://www.bgit.net/?id=30063&ref=1&action=view >>http://linux-bg.exco.net/cgi-bin/y/index.pl?page=news&key=341114232 >> >>100x íà ïðåâîäà÷à !!! Åââàëëà íà òàêâèçè èíäèâèäè !!! >>-- >>Greets, >>fr33zb1 >> > > > >>A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). >>http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara > > Zagora > >>To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html >> > > > > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Mozilla 1.0 and Mozilla RC3 with bulgarian interface `
Ãëåäàì ÷å Mozilla èìà è ïðîâåðêà íà ïðàâîïèñà (íå ñå èíñòàëèðà ñ îñíîâíàòà èíñòàëàöèÿ çàùîòî å îùå áåòà). Êîãàòî îò ïðîñëåäèõ ëèíêà çà download íà ðå÷íèöè ñå îçîâàõ íà ñàéòà ía OpenOffice! Òîâà äàëè íå çíà÷è ÷å àêî ñè èíñòàëèðàì ðå÷íèêà íà Ðàäîñòèí Ðàäíåâ ùå ñè èìàì ïðîâåðêà íà ïðàâîïèñà íà Áúëãàðñêè? - Original Message - From: "George Danchev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 06 June, 2002 12:51 Subject: lug-bg: Mozilla 1.0 and Mozilla RC3 with bulgarian interface ` > Äíåñ ìå ïðèáèõà ñ èçíåíàäè ... > ïúðâî Mozilla 1.0 release, ïîñëå è èíòåðôåéñ íà áúëãàðñêè è íàïðàâî ñè ñ÷óïèõ > êàëâèàòóðàòà îò êåô ... ïðè ìåí òðúãíà ïîä Ëèíóêñ (äåáèëèàí), ïîä Âèíäîâñ > ñúùî íå áè òðÿáâàëî äà èìà ïðîáëåìè ... Èíôî: > http://www.bgit.net/?id=30063&ref=1&action=view > http://linux-bg.exco.net/cgi-bin/y/index.pl?page=news&key=341114232 > > 100x íà ïðåâîäà÷à !!! Åââàëëà íà òàêâèçè èíäèâèäè !!! > -- > Greets, > fr33zb1 > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Mozilla 1.0 and Mozilla RC3 with bulgarian interface `
OpenOffice âå÷å ñå ïðåâåæäà. --- ProSyst Bulgaria Ltd.Valentin Valchev 48 Vladajska Str.Project Manager Sofia 1606, Bulgaria Dept: mBedded Server/Broadband http://www.prosyst.com/ Phone: +359 (2) 9523581-107 --- Leading Software Technology for Open Service Gateways - Original Message - From: Rossitza Dimova To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 6:08 PM Subject: Re: lug-bg: Mozilla 1.0 and Mozilla RC3 with bulgarian interface ` Ñåãà îñòàâà äà ïðåâåäàò (äà ïðåâåäåì) è Open/Star Office íà áúëãàðñêè. Çàùîòî ëè÷íî àç õàðåñâàì âãðàäåíèÿ áðàóçúð íà Star Office 5.2. Ìíîãî å äîáúð è îñâåí òîâà íÿìà òîçè ñòðàíåí "áúã" íà Ìîçèëà - à èìåííî: äà ðåàãèðà íà áóòîí÷åòî çà èçáîð íà âñè÷êè ïèñìà ïî àäåêâàòíèÿ íà÷èí (ñòàâà âúïðîñ çà hotmail).Ðîñè>ïúðâî Mozilla 1.0 release, ïîñëå è èíòåðôåéñ íà áúëãàðñêè è íàïðàâî ñè >ñ÷óïèõ>êàëâèàòóðàòà îò êåô ..._Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.comA mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers).http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara ZagoraTo unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Mozilla 1.0 and Mozilla RC3 with bulgarian interface `
On Thursday 06 June 2002 18:08, Rossitza Dimova wrote: > Ñåãà îñòàâà äà ïðåâåäàò (äà ïðåâåäåì) è Open/Star Office íà áúëãàðñêè. òîâà õè÷ íÿìà äà å ëåñíî. â ìîìåíòà îêîëî 10-òèíà ÷îâåêà ïðåâåæäàò ðå÷íèêà, ñëåä êîåòî èäå ñúùèíñêàòà ÷àñò ... íåçíàì ñàìî êàê ùå ñå íàìåðÿò ìàøèíè äà ãî èãðàÿò êàòî build horses ñúñ ñúîòâåòíàòà build environment... íàëè òðÿáâà äà ñå òåñòâà âñå ïàê ... à äîêîëêîòî ðàçáèðàì ñúîòâåòíîòî l10n ñå äîáàâÿ ñàìî ñëåä ïðåêîìïèëàöèÿ íà öåëèî ïàêåò ... êàòî ïîñëå ìîæå äà áúäå split-íàò íà core + l10n- íî äî òàì èìà îùå ìíîãî ìíîãî âðåìå ... > Çàùîòî ëè÷íî àç õàðåñâàì âãðàäåíèÿ áðàóçúð íà Star Office 5.2. Ìíîãî å òîçè áðàóçúð ãî çàáðàâè. ìàé âå÷å ãî íÿìà â StarOffice 6.0 (êîéòî å áåçïëàòåí ñàìî çà Solaris âå÷å, ), êàêòî âå÷å ãî íÿìà è òîâà âãðàæäàíå íà äåñêòîïà â îôèñå area-a à èíà÷å StarOffice=OpenOffice+some_êîìåðñèàëíè_ãëåçîòèè > äîáúð è îñâåí òîâà íÿìà òîçè ñòðàíåí "áúã" íà Ìîçèëà - à èìåííî: äà > ðåàãèðà íà áóòîí÷åòî çà èçáîð íà âñè÷êè ïèñìà ïî àäåêâàòíèÿ íà÷èí (ñòàâà > âúïðîñ çà hotmail). Ìîçèëëà íÿìà áúãîâå ! [òîâà ïðîÿâÿâà ëè ñå â 1.0? ] -- Greets, fr33zb1 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: Re: lug-bg: Mozilla 1.0 and Mozilla RC3 with bulgarian interface `
Ami pri windows brausera na Star Office 5.2 izpolzva IE . T.e. e neshto kato po-dobro GUI na IE. Pri Linux neznam na kakva baza e izgraden. Ako se napishe v Star Office 5.2 za boza neshto koeto go nakara da dade suobshtenie za gresha shte se vidi poznatoto suobshtenie na IE. Puk za hotmail Star Office 5.2 za windows e 4ist IE i te njama kak da mu se pravjat na interesni. Âèå íàïèñàõòå: >Ñåãà îñòàâà äà ïðåâåäàò (äà ïðåâåäåì) è Open/Star Office íà áúëãàðñêè. >Çàùîòî ëè÷íî àç õàðåñâàì âãðàäåíèÿ áðàóçúð íà Star Office 5.2. Ìíîãî å äîáúð >è îñâåí òîâà íÿìà òîçè ñòðàíåí "áúã" íà Ìîçèëà - à èìåííî: äà ðåàãèðà íà >áóòîí÷åòî çà èçáîð íà âñè÷êè ïèñìà ïî àäåêâàòíèÿ íà÷èí (ñòàâà âúïðîñ çà >hotmail). > >Ðîñè > > >>ïúðâî Mozilla 1.0 release, ïîñëå è èíòåðôåéñ íà áúëãàðñêè è íàïðàâî ñè >>ñ÷óïèõ >>êàëâèàòóðàòà îò êåô ... > > > > > >_ >Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > >A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). >http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora >To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: Re: Sreshta
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Re: lug-bg: Mozilla 1.0 and Mozilla RC3 with bulgarian interface `
Ñåãà îñòàâà äà ïðåâåäàò (äà ïðåâåäåì) è Open/Star Office íà áúëãàðñêè. Çàùîòî ëè÷íî àç õàðåñâàì âãðàäåíèÿ áðàóçúð íà Star Office 5.2. Ìíîãî å äîáúð è îñâåí òîâà íÿìà òîçè ñòðàíåí "áúã" íà Ìîçèëà - à èìåííî: äà ðåàãèðà íà áóòîí÷åòî çà èçáîð íà âñè÷êè ïèñìà ïî àäåêâàòíèÿ íà÷èí (ñòàâà âúïðîñ çà hotmail). Ðîñè >ïúðâî Mozilla 1.0 release, ïîñëå è èíòåðôåéñ íà áúëãàðñêè è íàïðàâî ñè >ñ÷óïèõ >êàëâèàòóðàòà îò êåô ... _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Mozilla 1.0 and Mozilla RC3 with bulgarian interface `
Mejdu drugoto za fenovete na lightweight browserite Links - dosega console text browsera evoliuira. Versiq 2.0pre6 predlaga extri kato JavaScript Support, svgalib, fb, X support, bg lokalizaciq ima oshte ot predishnite versii. Smeq da tvyrdq che e dosta dobra lightweight alternativa na mozilla kato browser. Adresyt e: http://freshmeat.net/projects/links/ A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Conntrack UDP timeout
V greshna posoka si trugnal. Nito edin DNS service nqma da chaka 30s za response. Po default stoinostta varira m/u 2 i 5 sec. T.e. timeout-a si e suvsem razumen i ne e v nego problema. > > Áåäàòà ñ 30-òå ñåêóíäè å, ÷å íÿêîè DNS ñúðâúðè îòãîâàðÿò ïî-áàâíî è > îòãîâîðúò èì òàêà è íå ñòèãà äî ïèòàùèÿ. > > > Ïîçäðàâè, > äàì -- B. A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Conntrack UDP timeout
On Thursday 06 June 2002 13:31, Damyan Ivanov wrote: > On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 12:33:30PM +0300 George Danchev wrote: > > > On Thursday 06 June 2002 11:07, Damyan Ivanov wrote: > > > > > Ïðèâåò, > > > > > > Ïèòàì ñå äàëè èìà íà÷èí äà óâåëè÷à timeout-à íà UDP ïàêåòè íà ïîâå÷å > > > îò 30ñåê? > > > > > > Ðîâèõ äúëãî, íî åäèíñòâåíîòî, êîåòî íàìåðèõ å çàáåëåæêà, ÷å 'iptables > > > -M -S' âå÷å íå áèëî íóæíî, çàùîòî timeout-úò áèë ïî-ãîëÿì â íîâèÿ êîä > > > è > > > > > > îïèòàé ñ ïî-ñòàðà âåðñèÿ íà iptables, àêî ìîæå äà ïîäàâà òåçè ïàðàìåòðè, > > è äàíî òâîÿòà âåðñèÿ íà êåðíåëà ãè ðàçáåðå. > > > Òîâà, ñ êîåòî îïèòâàì å 1.2.5 è 1.2.6à: "Íåïîçíàò ïàðàìåòúð -Ì" :-( > Èìàõ ïðåäâèä, "ipchains -M -S", íå iptables. apt-get install ipchains/testing ii ipchains 1.3.10-15 Network firewalling for Linux 2.2.x èìà ãè äâåòå îïöèè -M -S udp, òðÿáâà äà ðàáîòÿò. â man-a íà iptables ïèøå ÷å -M -S èìàò ðàçëè÷íî ïîâåäåíèå ... > > àç íå íàìåðèõ íèùî èíòåðåñíî èç /proc , à â net/TUNABLE ñàìî íà åäíî > > ìÿñòî ñå ñïîìåíàâà UPD àìà òî å çà expire íà masq ... > > > Êúäå å òîâà ïî-òî÷íî? Àç íå ãî íàìèðàì. Äà íå áè äà å èçîñòàíàëî îò > ipchains? â ñîðñà íà êåðíåëà èìà ãî ïîíå îò 2.4.10 äî 2.4.18 /usr/src/linux/net/TUNABLE ïèøå ÷å ïîâå÷åòî ñà compile time, íî èìà è sysctl (/proc) òàêèâà. Èìà MASQUARADE_EXPIRE_UDP (tunable), àìà òàêà è íå ðàçáðàõ êàê ñå ïðîìåíÿ run-time è îò êúäå ...  ñëó÷àÿ ìàé ðàçíè TTL's (time to live), ìîæå è äà íå òå óðåæäàò, íî ðàçöúêàé ãè âñå ïàê, (/proc/sys/net/ipv4/) ùîòî òè èñêàø UDP conntracked connectiona na ne expire-va ..., êàêâî ïî-òî÷íî conntrack-âàø, DNS çàÿâêèòå íå ïîïàäàò â ïðîáëåìíèÿ NAT ? ùå òðÿáâà äà ñå òåñòâà à àç íÿìàì îïèòíà ïîñòàíîâêà ïîä ðúêà :-( -- Greets, fr33zb1 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: Mozilla 1.0 and Mozilla RC3 with bulgarian interface `
Äíåñ ìå ïðèáèõà ñ èçíåíàäè ... ïúðâî Mozilla 1.0 release, ïîñëå è èíòåðôåéñ íà áúëãàðñêè è íàïðàâî ñè ñ÷óïèõ êàëâèàòóðàòà îò êåô ... ïðè ìåí òðúãíà ïîä Ëèíóêñ (äåáèëèàí), ïîä Âèíäîâñ ñúùî íå áè òðÿáâàëî äà èìà ïðîáëåìè ... Èíôî: http://www.bgit.net/?id=30063&ref=1&action=view http://linux-bg.exco.net/cgi-bin/y/index.pl?page=news&key=341114232 100x íà ïðåâîäà÷à !!! Åââàëëà íà òàêâèçè èíäèâèäè !!! -- Greets, fr33zb1 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Conntrack UDP timeout
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 05:43:06AM -0400 Nick Bashev wrote: > hmm ne sym mnogo siguren no novia iptabels koito e 1.2.7 imashe funkcia > koito moze da ti promenia ttl na paketite ako tova ti vyrshi rabota kato si TTL íå å ëè ìàêñèìàëíàòà îòäàëå÷åíîñò (â "õîïîâå) äîêúäåòî ìîæå äà ñòèãíå ïàêåòà? È íÿìà íèùî îáùî ñ âðåìåòî, íàëè? Äàì -- Damyan Ivanov Creditreform Bulgaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.creditreform.bg/ phone: +359 2 928 2611, 929 3993 fax: +359 2 920 0994 mobile: +359 88 566067 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Conntrack UDP timeout
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 01:06:04PM +0300 Martin Spasov wrote: > > ×óäÿ ñå äàëè èìà íÿêàêúâ "êóëòóðåí" íà÷èí çà íàñòðîéêà íà òîçè > > ïàðàìåòúð? Èëè ìå ÷àêà ïðåêîìïèëèðàíå íà ÿäðîòî? > > da, modificira se soursa na kernela (2.4): > > net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_proto_udp.c > > tam kadeto se definira timeout-a. Òî÷íî ïðåêîìïèëàöèÿ ñå îïèòâàì äà èçáåãíà. :-| Äàì -- Damyan Ivanov Creditreform Bulgaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.creditreform.bg/ phone: +359 2 928 2611, 929 3993 fax: +359 2 920 0994 mobile: +359 88 566067 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Conntrack UDP timeout
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 12:33:30PM +0300 George Danchev wrote: > On Thursday 06 June 2002 11:07, Damyan Ivanov wrote: > > Ïðèâåò, > > > > Ïèòàì ñå äàëè èìà íà÷èí äà óâåëè÷à timeout-à íà UDP ïàêåòè íà ïîâå÷å îò > > 30ñåê? > > > > Ðîâèõ äúëãî, íî åäèíñòâåíîòî, êîåòî íàìåðèõ å çàáåëåæêà, ÷å 'iptables > > -M -S' âå÷å íå áèëî íóæíî, çàùîòî timeout-úò áèë ïî-ãîëÿì â íîâèÿ êîä è > > îïèòàé ñ ïî-ñòàðà âåðñèÿ íà iptables, àêî ìîæå äà ïîäàâà òåçè ïàðàìåòðè, è > äàíî òâîÿòà âåðñèÿ íà êåðíåëà ãè ðàçáåðå. Òîâà, ñ êîåòî îïèòâàì å 1.2.5 è 1.2.6à: "Íåïîçíàò ïàðàìåòúð -Ì" :-( Èìàõ ïðåäâèä, "ipchains -M -S", íå iptables. > > ïîäîáíà íàñòðîéêà å èçëèøíà. Ñàìî ÷å êàòî ãëåäàì ñîðñà timeout-a å 30ñåê > > çà íîâà âðúçêà è 180ñåê çà âðúçêà, ïî êîÿòî å èìàëî òðàôèê è â äâåòå > > ïîñîêè (âñè÷êî òîâà çà UDP). > > èìàø ïðåäâèä äâàòà define-à UDP_TIMEOUT è UDP_STREAM_TIMEOUT â > ip_conntrack_proto_udp.c ? Îò êîìåíòàðèòå ïî-íàäîëó ÷åòà ÷å ñàìî àêî èìà Òî÷íî òàì è àç ãëåäàõ. > > ×óäÿ ñå äàëè èìà íÿêàêúâ "êóëòóðåí" íà÷èí çà íàñòðîéêà íà òîçè > > ïàðàìåòúð? Èëè ìå ÷àêà ïðåêîìïèëèðàíå íà ÿäðîòî? > > àç íå íàìåðèõ íèùî èíòåðåñíî èç /proc , à â net/TUNABLE ñàìî íà åäíî ìÿñòî ñå > ñïîìåíàâà UPD àìà òî å çà expire íà masq ... Êúäå å òîâà ïî-òî÷íî? Àç íå ãî íàìèðàì. Äà íå áè äà å èçîñòàíàëî îò ipchains? -- Damyan Ivanov Creditreform Bulgaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.creditreform.bg/ phone: +359 2 928 2611, 929 3993 fax: +359 2 920 0994 mobile: +359 88 566067 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: VideoDrivers for Permedia 3000
Àíãåë Âúëêîâ wrote:
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Pusni mi edno copie na /var/log/XFree86.0.log kogato puskash X-sa s glint+ti_pm.
OK puskam Vi configa i loga saotvetno, shtom voorajen sas source kazvate
che triabva da tragne, nishto drugo ne mi ostava osven da sledvam zarakite
;)))
Maj izliza che ili az ne go okazvam RAMDAC-a kakto triabva ili on si znae
IBM525 i posle not supported!
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Ima dve opcii koito moje da sa ti ot polza ako drivera ne otkriva avtomati4no ramdac-a na kartata(ne sym siguren oba4e dali imat efekt pri "glint"): Ramdac "ramdac-type" DacSpeed "speed"
A sintaksisa na tia redove, pak i na RAMDAC-a koia speed?
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Vpro4em koia versia na XFree idva s tozi Mandrake?
Mandraketo varvi s 4.2.0, no ima XServeri za savmestimost 3.3.6
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XF-4.2. sources imat poddryjka za tozi ramdac.snip /tmp/builds/x4.2/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/ramdac/TI.h#define TI3026_RAMDAC (VENDOR_TI << 16) | 0x01snip /tmp/builds/x4.2/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/glint#include "IBM.h"#include "TI.h"#include "glint.h"...static RamDacSupportedInfoRec IBMRamdacs[] = {{ IBM526DB_RAMDAC },{ IBM526_RAMDAC },{ IBM640_RAMDAC },{ -1 }};static RamDacSupportedInfoRec TIRamdacs[] = {{ TI3030_RAMDAC },{ TI3026_RAMDAC },{ -1 }};è ò.í. îò îñòàíàëèÿ ñîðñ ñòàâà ÿñíî,÷å âúïðîñíèÿ ramdac ñå ïîääúðæà îò äðàéâåðà
Abe ako stane s taia karta, ste imam da cherpia mnogo
Merci oste vednaj!
P.S.
Taj kato tova post-che mi se varna ot Spas zaradi razmera (ne biah kompresiral
fajlowete), moje i da ne mi
otgovariash, zashtoto trampih bez pari taia platka s ATI 3D RAGE PRO s edno
mace, deto samo Win znae.
Sega rabotata zaspa, no vse pak si drapnah source na XFree 4.2.0 i ste vidia
zashto podrazbira samo IBM525
RamDAC, pa moje i da portvame X-a za takava sistema
;-)
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Re: lug-bg: Conntrack UDP timeout
On Thu, 2002-06-06 at 11:07, Damyan Ivanov wrote: > ðÒÉ×ÅÔ, > > ðÉÔÁÍ ÓÅ ÄÁÌÉ ÉÍÁ ÎÁÞÉÎ ÄÁ Õ×ÅÌÉÞÁ timeout-Á ÎÁ UDP ÐÁËÅÔÉ ÎÁ ÐÏ×ÅÞÅ ÏÔ > 30ÓÅË? > > òÏ×ÉÈ ÄßÌÇÏ, ÎÏ ÅÄÉÎÓÔ×ÅÎÏÔÏ, ËÏÅÔÏ ÎÁÍÅÒÉÈ Å ÚÁÂÅÌÅÖËÁ, ÞÅ 'iptables > -M -S' ×ÅÞÅ ÎÅ ÂÉÌÏ ÎÕÖÎÏ, ÚÁÝÏÔÏ timeout-ßÔ ÂÉÌ ÐÏ-ÇÏÌÑÍ × ÎÏ×ÉÑ ËÏÄ É > ÐÏÄÏÂÎÁ ÎÁÓÔÒÏÊËÁ Å ÉÚÌÉÛÎÁ. óÁÍÏ ÞÅ ËÁÔÏ ÇÌÅÄÁÍ ÓÏÒÓÁ timeout-a Å 30ÓÅË > ÚÁ ÎÏ×Á ×ÒßÚËÁ É 180ÓÅË ÚÁ ×ÒßÚËÁ, ÐÏ ËÏÑÔÏ Å ÉÍÁÌÏ ÔÒÁÆÉË É × Ä×ÅÔÅ > ÐÏÓÏËÉ (×ÓÉÞËÏ ÔÏ×Á ÚÁ UDP). > > þÕÄÑ ÓÅ ÄÁÌÉ ÉÍÁ ÎÑËÁËß× "ËÕÌÔÕÒÅÎ" ÎÁÞÉÎ ÚÁ ÎÁÓÔÒÏÊËÁ ÎÁ ÔÏÚÉ > ÐÁÒÁÍÅÔßÒ? éÌÉ ÍÅ ÞÁËÁ ÐÒÅËÏÍÐÉÌÉÒÁÎÅ ÎÁ ÑÄÒÏÔÏ? da, modificira se soursa na kernela (2.4): net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_proto_udp.c tam kadeto se definira timeout-a. > âÅÄÁÔÁ Ó 30-ÔÅ ÓÅËÕÎÄÉ Å, ÞÅ ÎÑËÏÉ DNS ÓßÒ×ßÒÉ ÏÔÇÏ×ÁÒÑÔ ÐÏ-ÂÁ×ÎÏ É > ÏÔÇÏ×ÏÒßÔ ÉÍ ÔÁËÁ É ÎÅ ÓÔÉÇÁ ÄÏ ÐÉÔÁÝÉÑ. > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Conntrack UDP timeout
hmm ne sym mnogo siguren no novia iptabels koito e 1.2.7 imashe funkcia koito moze da ti promenia ttl na paketite ako tova ti vyrshi rabota kato si drypnesh cvs-a napravi make patch-o-matic v edin ot patchovete koito sa pending mislia che go imashe tochno tova. Ako ne me lyze pameta che neshto ne bachka naposledak (LETO E VYNKA ZEGA A V KUHNIATA - HLADILNIK PALEN S BIRA. KVO DA PRAVA PIA IA :))) Regards, Nick p.s. ako dyrzish mnogo moze da pogledna koi beshe tochno - Original Message - From: "Damyan Ivanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:07 AM Subject: lug-bg: Conntrack UDP timeout > Ïðèâåò, > > Ïèòàì ñå äàëè èìà íà÷èí äà óâåëè÷à timeout-à íà UDP ïàêåòè íà ïîâå÷å îò > 30ñåê? > > Ðîâèõ äúëãî, íî åäèíñòâåíîòî, êîåòî íàìåðèõ å çàáåëåæêà, ÷å 'iptables > -M -S' âå÷å íå áèëî íóæíî, çàùîòî timeout-úò áèë ïî-ãîëÿì â íîâèÿ êîä è > ïîäîáíà íàñòðîéêà å èçëèøíà. Ñàìî ÷å êàòî ãëåäàì ñîðñà timeout-a å 30ñåê > çà íîâà âðúçêà è 180ñåê çà âðúçêà, ïî êîÿòî å èìàëî òðàôèê è â äâåòå > ïîñîêè (âñè÷êî òîâà çà UDP). > > ×óäÿ ñå äàëè èìà íÿêàêúâ "êóëòóðåí" íà÷èí çà íàñòðîéêà íà òîçè > ïàðàìåòúð? Èëè ìå ÷àêà ïðåêîìïèëèðàíå íà ÿäðîòî? > > Áåäàòà ñ 30-òå ñåêóíäè å, ÷å íÿêîè DNS ñúðâúðè îòãîâàðÿò ïî-áàâíî è > îòãîâîðúò èì òàêà è íå ñòèãà äî ïèòàùèÿ. > > > Ïîçäðàâè, > äàì > > -- > Damyan Ivanov Creditreform Bulgaria > [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.creditreform.bg/ > phone: +359 2 928 2611, 929 3993 fax: +359 2 920 0994 > mobile: +359 88 566067 > > > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). > http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora > To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html > A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: pppoe vs pptp
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:41:01AM +0300, Kostadin Karaivanov wrote: > antenite na wireless-a svetiat ot trafik. I taka moga li da im zadam fake ip > s netmask 255.255.255.254 prez dhcp-to > > nema takowa neshto kato maska ot 31 bita sire4 255.255.255.254 Ima, samo che e otnositelno novo i ne 100% ot equipment-a go poddarja. Vij http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3021.html Pozdravi, -- Theodor Milkov Administrator IP Networks Davidov Net Phone: +359 (2) 730158 PGP: http://www.zimage.delbg.com/zimage.asc A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Conntrack UDP timeout
On Thursday 06 June 2002 11:07, Damyan Ivanov wrote: > Ïðèâåò, > > Ïèòàì ñå äàëè èìà íà÷èí äà óâåëè÷à timeout-à íà UDP ïàêåòè íà ïîâå÷å îò > 30ñåê? > > Ðîâèõ äúëãî, íî åäèíñòâåíîòî, êîåòî íàìåðèõ å çàáåëåæêà, ÷å 'iptables > -M -S' âå÷å íå áèëî íóæíî, çàùîòî timeout-úò áèë ïî-ãîëÿì â íîâèÿ êîä è îïèòàé ñ ïî-ñòàðà âåðñèÿ íà iptables, àêî ìîæå äà ïîäàâà òåçè ïàðàìåòðè, è äàíî òâîÿòà âåðñèÿ íà êåðíåëà ãè ðàçáåðå. > ïîäîáíà íàñòðîéêà å èçëèøíà. Ñàìî ÷å êàòî ãëåäàì ñîðñà timeout-a å 30ñåê > çà íîâà âðúçêà è 180ñåê çà âðúçêà, ïî êîÿòî å èìàëî òðàôèê è â äâåòå > ïîñîêè (âñè÷êî òîâà çà UDP). èìàø ïðåäâèä äâàòà define-à UDP_TIMEOUT è UDP_STREAM_TIMEOUT â ip_conntrack_proto_udp.c ? Îò êîìåíòàðèòå ïî-íàäîëó ÷åòà ÷å ñàìî àêî èìà äâóñòðàíåí òðàôèê (èëè ìîæå áè òðàôèê â åäíà îò äâåòå ïîñîêè) òîãàâà ñå óâåëè÷àâà åäèíèÿ èëè äðóãèÿ ïàðàìåòúð, èíòåðåñíî çàùî å òàêà. > ×óäÿ ñå äàëè èìà íÿêàêúâ "êóëòóðåí" íà÷èí çà íàñòðîéêà íà òîçè > ïàðàìåòúð? Èëè ìå ÷àêà ïðåêîìïèëèðàíå íà ÿäðîòî? àç íå íàìåðèõ íèùî èíòåðåñíî èç /proc , à â net/TUNABLE ñàìî íà åäíî ìÿñòî ñå ñïîìåíàâà UPD àìà òî å çà expire íà masq ... > Áåäàòà ñ 30-òå ñåêóíäè å, ÷å íÿêîè DNS ñúðâúðè îòãîâàðÿò ïî-áàâíî è > îòãîâîðúò èì òàêà è íå ñòèãà äî ïèòàùèÿ. àêî íå ñòàíå ñ ïî-ñòàðà âåðñèÿ íà iptables è ñúîòâåòíî òâîÿ êåðíåë äà ãî ðàçáåðå, òîãàâà ìàé òè îñòàâà ñàìî äà bump ãîðíèòå difines. Èíòåðåñíî çàùî íå ñà ãè èçíåñëè â íÿêîé h â include/ ... -- Greets, fr33zb1 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
Re: lug-bg: Use only free software ! (beshe Deistviya 2)
--- "G. Georgiev (Skeleta)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Opera å êîìåðñèàëåí ïðîäóêò. Ìîæå è äà å çëàòåí, íî çà ìàñîâè è > îñíîâíè óñëóãè å õóáàâî äà ñå ïîëçâà FreeSoftware, äîðè â ìîìåíòà äà > ñà ñ ïî-ëîøî êà÷åñòâî. > > Èíà÷å ñå èçãðàæäà "ïîòðåáèòåëñêà çàâèñèìîñò", êîÿòî ñëåä âðåìå ìîæå > äà òè ñòðóâà ìíîãî ñêúïî. > > Â÷åðà èìàøå åäíî ïèñìî, êîåòî íàáëÿãàøå íà ñåãàøíàòà òåæêà > çàâèñèìîñò íà > õîðàòà îò MS Office. > > Ìîæå äà ñå íàëîæè 1-2 ïîêîëåíèÿ äà ñå ñìåíÿò, çà äà ñå îòúðâàò îò > òàêîâà > îáâúðçâàíå.  ìîìåíòà íàïðèìåð âñè÷êè åçèêîâè è èêîíîìè÷åñêè > ãèìíàçèè > èìàò äîñòà ÷àñîâå ïî èíôîðìàòèêà è ïîíå 90% îò òåçè ÷àñîâå ñà > ïîñâåòåíè íà > èçó÷àâàíå íà MS Office - òàêà è ñëåäâàùîòî ïîêîëåíèå ñ÷åòîâîäèòåëè > è àäìèíèñòðàòîðè ùå èñêà äà èìà Excel è Word íà åêðàíà ïðåä ñåáå ñè! Sklonen sym da mislya, che po otnoshenie na obrazowanieto problemyt e poweche w nachina na obuchenie, otkolkoto w towa kakyw produkt se polzwa. Dokokoto sym imal kontakti s obrazowatelnata ni sistema, prepodawatelite po informatika obiknoweno imat smytna predstawa ot towa koeto prepodawat, i oste po-smytna prestawa kak da go obyasnyat. Nai-chesto te sa uswoili w izwestna stepen daden (ofis) produkt i typchat w glawite na decata nesta ot sorta na: "klikni s mishkata na tazi ikona za da stane fonta 14". Glednata mi tochka e slednata: dori i w obrazowatelnata sistema da se izpolzwa OpenOffice, ili Koffice, ili AbiWord wmesto MS Office, mnozinstwoto ot obuchawanite prosto ste prihwanat malko nesto konkretno za dadeniya produkt. Nyama da se nauchat na obstite principi na formatirane na tekst. Nyama da mogat sled towa kato gi slozat pred nepozanto prilozenie za formatirane na tekst da swiknat da go polzwat maksimum za den/sedmica. Te prosto ste se "obwyrzat" kym syotwetniya produkt - nauchawat nesto za nestata koito produkta moze da prawi, no ne nauchawat principite za obrabotka na informaciyata. (wse pak programnite produkti prawyat imenno towa - pomagat za obrabotwane na informaciya) Sywsem otdelna tema e dokolko e neobhodimo i w kakwa stepen da se nablyaga w chasowe po informatika tochno na izuchawaneto na takyw tip produkti. Druga tema e i towa, che preowladawastata chast ot destwastite dyrzawni/chastni administratiwni/ofis sluziteli sa tochno po systiya nachin "obwyrzani". Nakratko: da izpozlwame swoboden softuer, da izpozlwame i platen softuer kogato se nalaga, no da poznawame kachestwata im. Dokolkoto moga da precenya ot diskusiite koto se wodyat w lug-bg, chlenowete na grupata sa predimno "neobwyrzani". I edna ot celite na grupata e da predotwrati podoben tip "obwyrzwane". may the /src be with you __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
lug-bg: IBM signs Linux deal with Germany
Eto neshto interesno shodno s temata : M$ in BG http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/business/newsid_2023000/2023127.stm eto i kakwo pishe tam (za tezi koito gi myrzi da otwarqt browaser): Can Linux manage to infiltrate the German government? Germany has signed up IBM for a major public sector computer contract, dealing a blow to software giant Microsoft in the process. IBM announced it will offer German Government offices deep discounts on computer systems based on Linux, rather than Microsoft's near-ubiquitous Windows operating system. Germany's Interior Minister, Otto Schilly, said the move would help cut costs and improve security in the nation's computer networks. "We are raising computer security by avoiding a monoculture, and we are lowering dependence on a single supplier," he said in a statement. "And so we are a leader in creating more diversity in the computer field." Neither the government nor IBM would disclose the terms of the agreement. But a spokesman for SuSE, the German company supplying the version of Linux involved in the deal, said the deal was directed at the interior ministry, which oversees law enforcement in Germany. Most of the computers in Germany's public sector run Windows. Open and shut case Germany is far from being the first country to turn to "open source" software as a means of securing its computer networks and saving money. "Open source" means that the core of a program or an operating system is open to anyone to experiment and fix errors. Linux is an open source variant of the 30-year-old Unix operating system, which is generally held to be almost indestructible and by far the most reliable core for computer systems for whom crashing is not an option. While the software itself is free, companies such as SuSE can still charge for technical support and other services, such as bundling it with easy-to-use installers or extra software. In proprietary software such as Microsoft's Windows, on the other hand, a single company controls the code, setting licensing terms for users but blocking outsiders from accessing the code. Access all areas Proponents of open source software for governments say the code is more bug-resistant and more secure - as well as saving huge amounts of money thanks to avoiding being locked into a single company's licensing fees. They also say using open source ensures that data will be widely compatible, and not be dependent on users - whether staff or citizens - using the same proprietary software. Microsoft, whose Windows operating system runs more than nine in every ten desktop machines around the world, is keen to keep its hegemony. It says that switching to open source can damage a country's indigenous IT industry, because some varieties of open source software place restrictions on copyright and intellectual property. It also says that it is a more reliable partner than smaller, less well-established open source distributors. "Any policy that favours one thing over another isn't helpful," a Microsoft Europe spokeswoman told the Journal. "It limits choice rather than increasing choice." Not alone But that argument has failed to convince a number of other countries. Mexico, for instance, has mandated open source in its education system - although it is widely believed to have botched the implementation. And Peru is considering a law mandating open source software. Microsoft wrote protesting about the law and warning of collapsing software markets and portraying a nightmare scenario of incompatibility. But the answer - from a Peruvian congressman - refuted the letter point by point. WATCH/LISTEN ON THIS STORY Martin Virtel , FT Deutschland "Once a government decides on a project it runs for years" See also: 15 Mar 02 | Sci/Tech Making free software pay 08 Jan 02 | Sci/Tech Linux takes on MS in China 26 Aug 01 | Sci/Tech Your verdict on 10 years of Linux 30 May 02 | Sci/Tech Watch out Windows? Internet links: IBM Linux Microsoft Letters between Microsoft and Peru The BBC is not responsible for the content of external internet sites Top Business stories now: Factory gloom eases UK rate rise fears Toyota 'close to China deal' British Gas accused of scare tactics Five years on: Rating the MPC AIB trader charged with fraud Carphone Warehouse drives for loyalty ECB likely to postpone rate rise Vexed airport firm gains retail uplift Links to more Business stories are at the foot of the page. -- -=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc Vega Internet Service Provider (tm) -- http://www.vega.bg -=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=-=#=- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
lug-bg: Conntrack UDP timeout
Ïðèâåò, Ïèòàì ñå äàëè èìà íà÷èí äà óâåëè÷à timeout-à íà UDP ïàêåòè íà ïîâå÷å îò 30ñåê? Ðîâèõ äúëãî, íî åäèíñòâåíîòî, êîåòî íàìåðèõ å çàáåëåæêà, ÷å 'iptables -M -S' âå÷å íå áèëî íóæíî, çàùîòî timeout-úò áèë ïî-ãîëÿì â íîâèÿ êîä è ïîäîáíà íàñòðîéêà å èçëèøíà. Ñàìî ÷å êàòî ãëåäàì ñîðñà timeout-a å 30ñåê çà íîâà âðúçêà è 180ñåê çà âðúçêà, ïî êîÿòî å èìàëî òðàôèê è â äâåòå ïîñîêè (âñè÷êî òîâà çà UDP). ×óäÿ ñå äàëè èìà íÿêàêúâ "êóëòóðåí" íà÷èí çà íàñòðîéêà íà òîçè ïàðàìåòúð? Èëè ìå ÷àêà ïðåêîìïèëèðàíå íà ÿäðîòî? Áåäàòà ñ 30-òå ñåêóíäè å, ÷å íÿêîè DNS ñúðâúðè îòãîâàðÿò ïî-áàâíî è îòãîâîðúò èì òàêà è íå ñòèãà äî ïèòàùèÿ. Ïîçäðàâè, äàì -- Damyan Ivanov Creditreform Bulgaria [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.creditreform.bg/ phone: +359 2 928 2611, 929 3993 fax: +359 2 920 0994 mobile: +359 88 566067 A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers). http://www.linux-bulgaria.org - Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora To unsubscribe: http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/public/mail_list.html
