RE: lug-bg: BG i neBG trafik

2002-07-15 Thread Nickola Kolev

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> predlojeniq, dopylneniq, flames, etc. da bydat nasocheni kym e-mail:
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>
> Regards,
> Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701
> http://boyan.ludost.net/
> Just another techie speaking for himself
>

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RE: lug-bg: BG i neBG trafik

2002-07-15 Thread Boyan Krosnov

Ti znaesh.
Dwe biri snoshti. Dnes go dowyrshih i go puskam publichno.

http://ip.ludost.net/

Informaciqta se sybira ot pylnite bazi na 3-te regionalni internet
registry-ta - ARIN, APNIC, RIPE (obshto nad 1'500'000 obekta), malko
balkanska sharena sol ot men, IANA i IETF RFC-ta i draftowe.
Informaciqta e tolkowa akuratna i tochna, kolkoto sa bazite na
RIR-owete. Ne se oplakwajte primerno che
62.32.52.0/24 se namira w bg ama e wyrzano na satelitna wryzka w UK i
nqma direktna widimost do nego prez evtini bylgarski wryzki.
ili che 
146.3.0.0/16 i 161.123.0.0/16 sa adresi zabraweni ot boga i ne se
polzwat ot pone 5 godini.
Twa pishe w RIR bazite, towa otgowarqm i az. Za sega nqmam planowe da se
zanimawam s moderirane na informaciqta. Do golqma stepen generiraneto na
bazata e avtomatichno.

predlojeniq, dopylneniq, flames, etc. da bydat nasocheni kym e-mail:
ip(at)ludost.net

Regards,
Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701
http://boyan.ludost.net/
Just another techie speaking for himself

> -Original Message-
> From: Vasil Kolev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 1:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: lug-bg: BG i neBG trafik
> 
> 
> Kolko biri? I kakva e zavisimostta m/u broq na birite i vremeto za
> prenapisvane na neshtoto ?:)
> 
> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Boyan Krosnov wrote:
> 
> > > http://www.nat.bg/look/AS/networks.html
> > Ne se poddyrja w momenta, chaka prenapiswane.
> > Ako nqkoj e nawit da me dotira nqkolko biri za celta, towa moje da
> > uskori procesa. :)
> 
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lug-bg: Secure FTP server

2002-07-15 Thread Emil Slavov

  Triabva mi FTP server koito da izpolzva kriptirane na 
username i password. Ako niakoi polzva takav i e dovolen, neka prati 
link. 
 Pozdravi: Emil Slavov 
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Re: lug-bg: Remote Desktop to Windows

2002-07-15 Thread Martin Spasov

On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 14:29, Yovko Ilchev Yovkov wrote:
> Nqkoi sesta li se za nqkoq alternativa na rdesktop, koqto da raboti na linux i 
> da se connectva kym Terminalen Server na Winbose?

WinConnect - commersial - no poddurja high color modes, rdp 5.1 i e
stabilno.



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Re: lug-bg: Remote Desktop to Windows

2002-07-15 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski

Yovko Ilchev Yovkov wrote:
> Nqkoi sesta li se za nqkoq alternativa na rdesktop, koqto da raboti na linux i 
> da se connectva kym Terminalen Server na Winbose?

Tova ne mozhe da se svarzva kam windows terminal server, no sashto varshi dobra
rabota za remote administracia.

   http://www.tightvnc.org/

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Re: lug-bg: Remote Desktop to Windows

2002-07-15 Thread Ivaylo Toshev

www.rdesktop.org

Íà ïí, 2002-07-15 â 11:29, Yovko Ilchev Yovkov çàïèñà:
> Nqkoi sesta li se za nqkoq alternativa na rdesktop, koqto da raboti na linux i 
> da se connectva kym Terminalen Server na Winbose?
> 
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lug-bg: Remote Desktop to Windows

2002-07-15 Thread Yovko Ilchev Yovkov

Nqkoi sesta li se za nqkoq alternativa na rdesktop, koqto da raboti na linux i 
da se connectva kym Terminalen Server na Winbose?

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Re: lug-bg: eth config problemi

2002-07-15 Thread Damyan Ivanov

On Mon, Jul 15, 2002 at 01:00:42PM +0300 Andrei Boyanov wrote:
> Posledno kompilirah originalnia driver za Intelskata karta (taia, koiato e na 
>dynoto). Syshtia rezultat. Ne e ot nesyotvetsvie na drivera i kartata. 
> 
> Interesnoto e, che pri bootvane ne pokazva ethernet kartata v spisyka na PCI 
>ustrojstvata. I druga kato sloja - pak taka. 
> 
> V linux v /proc/ioports gi ima eth kartite, no v /proc/interrupts gi niama. I 
>komandata ifconfig pokazva samo ioportovete, bez prekysvaneto.

Da ne bi neshto PNP konfiguracuyata na BIOS-a da e tvarde
"konservativna"? Vish tam csichki prekasvaniya da sa "PNP/PCI", a ne
"Legacy ISA". Vazmozhno li e neshto po PCI nastroykite na BIOS-a da e
precakano? Az bih opital "Load Setup Defaults".


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Re: lug-bg: eth config problemi

2002-07-15 Thread Alexander Atanasov

Hello,

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:00:42 +0300
"Andrei Boyanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Interesnoto e, che pri bootvane ne pokazva ethernet kartata v spisyka
> na PCI ustrojstvata. I druga kato sloja - pak taka. 

Da ne bi sluchaino da imash v BIOS niakakva option koiato da go nakara da si 
updatne lista s devices na PCI  i da im sloji IRQs.
(mislia che imashe niakakvi duna s fastboot/quickboot i ot roda  koito si spestiavat 
scaniraneto na PCI ).
S lspci vijdat li se? 

> V linux v /proc/ioports gi ima eth kartite, no v /proc/interrupts gi
> niama. I komandata ifconfig pokazva samo ioportovete, bez
> prekysvaneto.

T.e. kartite se obajdat na ioports no interrupts ot tiah ne idvat.

> Tia pci ID-ta, kak da razbera kakvi gi ochakva da sa drajvera ?

V source :) no mai ne e tova problema. 

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Re: FAQ && Allall (was Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID)

2002-07-15 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski

Alexander Velin wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Boris Jordanov wrote:
> 
> 
>>>[FLAME MODE ON]
>>>Kak pyk, da mu eba maikata ne te myrzi i da pishesh, a ??
>>>Poludiawam, kato gi widia takiwa kato teb.
>>>[FLAME MODE OFF]
>>>
>>
>>Bravo, inteligentno i na mjasto kazano. Zashto izobshto si pravish truda da
>>otgovorish? Ponlakoga list-a plache za moderirane...
> 
> 
> Towa mnenie me kara da spodelia niakoi neshta za tozi list nai nakraia.
> Ako niakoi se pochustwa obiden, da si predstawia che sym obgradil texta s
> FLAME tagowe...
> 
> Da, gospodin Jordanov, lista _ima_ nuzhda ot moderirane. Lista ima nuzhda

Niama nuzhda ot moderirane.

> i ot FAQ - ima ciklichnost na zadadenite wyprosi. Lista ima nuzhda nikoi

Za FAQ sam saglasen. I kakto vinagi se vrashtame na tova che niakoi triabva
da go napravi.

> ot potrebitelite mu da opresniat znaniata si po online kultura. Lista ima
> nuzhda horata da pomisliat dali wremeto i bandwidtha na wsichki ostanali
> sa free. Lista ima nuzhda potrebitelite mu da polagat izwestni usilia
> predi da zapochnat da pitat, zashtoto lista ne e manna nebesa, ne e
> welikiat Oraclul na internet, koito winagi otgowaria s optimnalno. Lista e
> miasto kydeto malko hora spodeliat opit, a ne kakto se kazwashe predi
> wreme "edni admini wyrshat rabotata na drugi". Zhalko che niama statistika
> na zadawanite wyprosi po hora. Zhalko, che primerno Marian Popov pita
> sredno wednyzh na sedmica neshto. Bih popital "zashto po wreme na cialoto
> mi prisystwie w lug-bg ima edin zadaden wypros, i edistwenia otgowor beshe
> ot George Danchev, koito uwazhawam po towa koeto cheta ot nego w tozi
> list, koeto nemozhe da se kazhe za wsichki ostanali. Bih popital ama me e
> sram. Diado mi nawremeto kazwashe "Nikoi ne se e rodil nauchen", ama pls
> kolegi, nauchete se da cenite wremeto na drugite.

...i da polzvate search engines :)

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lug-bg: Gtk+ pthread

2002-07-15 Thread Radoslav Savov

Kak da kompiliram programa na C w koqto ima Gtk
funkcii i se izpolzwat ni6ki.
gcc -o proba.z -g proba.c -lpthread `gtk-config
--cflags --libs` 
gcc -o proba.z -g proba.c `gtk-config --cflags --libs`
-lpthread  

- ne rabotqt

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RE: lug-bg: iptables

2002-07-15 Thread Nikolai Abromov

mersi adash , 

sega shte si prekompiliram kernela s MATCH_OWNER i shte probvam otnovo.
- mersi za helpa.



br,Nikolay Abromov 




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From: Nickola Kolev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: iptables


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On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Nikolai Abromov wrote:

> Zdraveyte,
>
>
> dnes reshih da si pravq filtri na bazata na uid s iptables - tova moje da stane s 
>owner
> modula koito vursi s iptables package - probvah da napisha edin prost rule za test v 
>koito
> ima slednite neshta :
>
> iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner=0 -j DROP
> no mi vurhsta slednata greshka  - iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
>
> OUTPUT chaina go ima :
> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source   destination
>
> nqkoi sbluskwal li se e s tozi problem i ako da , kakwo burkam?
>
>
>
> br,Nikolay Abromov

Çäðàâåé, àäàø,

íàé-âåðîÿòíî íå ñè êîìïèëèðàë â ÿäðîòî

   Owner match support (EXPERIMENTAL)

CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER:
Packet owner matching allows you to match locally-generated packets
based on who created them: the user, group, process or session.

Ïðè ìåí å êîìïèëèðàíî, è ñå insert-âà ñúâñåì íîðìàëíî.

target prot opt source   destination
DROP   all  --  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0  OWNER UID match 0

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FAQ && Allall (was Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID)

2002-07-15 Thread Alexander Velin

On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Boris Jordanov wrote:

> > [FLAME MODE ON]
> > Kak pyk, da mu eba maikata ne te myrzi i da pishesh, a ??
> > Poludiawam, kato gi widia takiwa kato teb.
> > [FLAME MODE OFF]
> >
> Bravo, inteligentno i na mjasto kazano. Zashto izobshto si pravish truda da
> otgovorish? Ponlakoga list-a plache za moderirane...

Towa mnenie me kara da spodelia niakoi neshta za tozi list nai nakraia.
Ako niakoi se pochustwa obiden, da si predstawia che sym obgradil texta s
FLAME tagowe...

Da, gospodin Jordanov, lista _ima_ nuzhda ot moderirane. Lista ima nuzhda
i ot FAQ - ima ciklichnost na zadadenite wyprosi. Lista ima nuzhda nikoi
ot potrebitelite mu da opresniat znaniata si po online kultura. Lista ima
nuzhda horata da pomisliat dali wremeto i bandwidtha na wsichki ostanali
sa free. Lista ima nuzhda potrebitelite mu da polagat izwestni usilia
predi da zapochnat da pitat, zashtoto lista ne e manna nebesa, ne e
welikiat Oraclul na internet, koito winagi otgowaria s optimnalno. Lista e
miasto kydeto malko hora spodeliat opit, a ne kakto se kazwashe predi
wreme "edni admini wyrshat rabotata na drugi". Zhalko che niama statistika
na zadawanite wyprosi po hora. Zhalko, che primerno Marian Popov pita
sredno wednyzh na sedmica neshto. Bih popital "zashto po wreme na cialoto
mi prisystwie w lug-bg ima edin zadaden wypros, i edistwenia otgowor beshe
ot George Danchev, koito uwazhawam po towa koeto cheta ot nego w tozi
list, koeto nemozhe da se kazhe za wsichki ostanali. Bih popital ama me e
sram. Diado mi nawremeto kazwashe "Nikoi ne se e rodil nauchen", ama pls
kolegi, nauchete se da cenite wremeto na drugite.

Rgrds,
velin

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Re: lug-bg: eth config problemi

2002-07-15 Thread Andrei Boyanov

On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 02:38:53PM +0300, Alexander Atanasov wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2002 12:56:33 +0300
> "Andrei Boyanov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 12, 2002 at 12:04:15PM +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 05:40:16PM +0300 Andrei Boyanov wrote:
> > > > zdravejte,
> > > > 
> > > > uspiavam da instaliram kartata s modprobe (eepro100, via-rhine,
> > > > ne2k-pci - probvah s razlichni), ne sled tova, kato opitam da ia
> > > > konfiguriram s ifconfig mi dava :
> > > > 
> > > > Resource temporarily unavailable
> > > Tryabva da znaesh kakva vsashtnost e kartata. Yavno ne e nikoya,
> > > poddarzhana ot gornite drayveri.
> > > 
> > 
> > Malko neiasno go napisah vchera - probvah s 3 razlichni karti - Intel
> > 82550 (za neia ne sym siguren za drivera), D-Link 530-TX (neia drug
> > pyt sym ia instaliral uspeshno s via-rhine modula) i RTL8029AS (i neia
> > sym ia instaliral s ne2k-pci).
> > 
> > Pri tova modula si gi razpoznava i kazva, che gi e instaliral...
> 
>   Modulite praviat proba za kartata i se sluchva da razpoznaiat niakoia karta 
>kato takava koiato podryjat,
> a vsyshtnost ne  ia podyrjat  ili ne poznavat tochnite parametri.  Resultata e 
>Resource temporarily unavailable.
> T.e. za da trygne triabva da vidish za  koia karta tochno kakyv driver ti triabva, i 
>syotvetno dali podyrja konkretnata karta. 
> Ako si siguren za drivera i ne trygva,  parametri na insmod ? io/irq/... . A ako ne 
>ia razpoznava PCI IDs, koito iska drivera dali
> sa kato na kartata, ima dosta hardware sys smeneni ID-ta.
> 

Posledno kompilirah originalnia driver za Intelskata karta (taia, koiato e na dynoto). 
Syshtia rezultat. Ne e ot nesyotvetsvie na drivera i kartata. 

Interesnoto e, che pri bootvane ne pokazva ethernet kartata v spisyka na PCI 
ustrojstvata. I druga kato sloja - pak taka. 

V linux v /proc/ioports gi ima eth kartite, no v /proc/interrupts gi niama. I 
komandata ifconfig pokazva samo ioportovete, bez prekysvaneto.


Tia pci ID-ta, kak da razbera kakvi gi ochakva da sa drajvera ?

rgds,

Andrei


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Re: lug-bg: iptables

2002-07-15 Thread Nickola Kolev

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On Mon, 15 Jul 2002, Nikolai Abromov wrote:

> Zdraveyte,
>
>
> dnes reshih da si pravq filtri na bazata na uid s iptables - tova moje da stane s 
>owner
> modula koito vursi s iptables package - probvah da napisha edin prost rule za test v 
>koito
> ima slednite neshta :
>
> iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner=0 -j DROP
> no mi vurhsta slednata greshka  - iptables: No chain/target/match by that name
>
> OUTPUT chaina go ima :
> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
> target prot opt source   destination
>
> nqkoi sbluskwal li se e s tozi problem i ako da , kakwo burkam?
>
>
>
> br,Nikolay Abromov

Çäðàâåé, àäàø,

íàé-âåðîÿòíî íå ñè êîìïèëèðàë â ÿäðîòî

   Owner match support (EXPERIMENTAL)

CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER:
Packet owner matching allows you to match locally-generated packets
based on who created them: the user, group, process or session.

Ïðè ìåí å êîìïèëèðàíî, è ñå insert-âà ñúâñåì íîðìàëíî.

target prot opt source   destination
DROP   all  --  0.0.0.0/00.0.0.0/0  OWNER UID match 0

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lug-bg: iptables

2002-07-15 Thread Nikolai Abromov

Zdraveyte, 


dnes reshih da si pravq filtri na bazata na uid s iptables - tova moje da stane s 
owner 
modula koito vursi s iptables package - probvah da napisha edin prost rule za test v 
koito
ima slednite neshta : 

iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner=0 -j DROP
no mi vurhsta slednata greshka  - iptables: No chain/target/match by that name

OUTPUT chaina go ima :
Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
target prot opt source   destination

nqkoi sbluskwal li se e s tozi problem i ako da , kakwo burkam?



br,Nikolay Abromov 









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Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID

2002-07-15 Thread Lechev [AngelFire]

naskoro s edin kolega puskahme tochno towa RAID-1 (Mirroring)
na Slackware 8.1
bez problemi Promise beshe kontrolera
ima malko tynkosti pri puskaneto
mislq che na RH se puska po lesno

w obshti linii google.com pomogna za puskaneto :))
ideqta e da widish io-tata i irq-to na kontrolerite
sled kato gi opishesh na lilo prompta (append line)
movesh da polzwash /dev/ataraid/d0


On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 00:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>  Nqkoi da e polzwal RAID-IDE s dwa diska w MIRROR revim (ne si spomqnam koi nomer 
>RAID beshe towa)
> taka che ako se skape ediniq da si prodylvi da raboti... towa
> koeto me interesuwa :
> 
> - Kakwo e tochnoto ime na kontrolera ako wi e haresal 
> - kolko struwa orientirowachno
>   - ako move da mi opishe kade kakwo trqbwa da se
> konfigurira (marzi me da cheta) za hardware-RAID-a 
> - koi linux polzwa
> 
> thanx
> 
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Re: [OT] lug-bg: SLUG

2002-07-15 Thread Lechev [AngelFire]


Da.. mislq che dylva edno izwinenie na grupata i na momchetata ot SF
malko se poizpusnah ama prosto imah malko ekscesii s edni sofianci
naskoro i nqmam dobri wpechatleniq ot nikoj sofiqnec ... kakto i da e 
ne wsichki hora sa ednakwi :))) sorry za flame-a ...


On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 16:13, ßñåí Ïðàìàòàðîâ wrote:
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>  Òîâà íå áåøå ìíîãî êðàñèâî :'(
>  Òîâà ïúê å ñèíäðîìúò "êîëêî ñìå îíåïðàâäàíè íèå, êîëêî ñòå ðàçãëåçåíè âèå, 
> ñîôèÿíöèòå". È òîçè ñèíäðîì å ñúùî òîëêîâà ëîø! Çàùîòî è â Ñîôèÿ èìà ìàëêè 
> çàïëàòè, íå âñè÷êè òóêà ÿäàò çëàòî çà ñëåäîáåäíà çàêóñêà!
>  Íèêîé íå å êàçâàë, ÷å â ïðîâèíöèÿòà ñòå åäè-êàêâè ñè! Ìîì÷åòî ïðîñòî ïîèñêà
> èíôîðìàöèÿ! È âìåñòî íàêîé äà ìó ÿ äàäå, çàïî÷íà ôëåéìà "êîé å ïî-ìúæ è êúäå
> ñìå ïî-îíåïðàâäàíè". :-(
>  Âèæ, Ñòàíèñëàâå, êàêâî òè ïðå÷è åâåíòóàëíîòî ñúùåñòâóâàíå íà âúïðîñíàòà SLUG?
> Èäåÿòà íà LUG-ãðóïèòå å äà ñà ðåãèîíàëíè. Òîâà, ÷å íèå â Áà ñè èìàìå åäíà è 
> íÿìàìå äîñòàòú÷íî ïàðè äà ïúòóâàìå âñÿêà ñåäìèöà äî íÿêàêâî ìÿñòî çà ñðåùà, ñè 
> å íàø ïðîáëåì... Òî íÿêîè îò íàñ íÿìàìå âúçìîæíîñò äà äîéäåì íà ãîäèøíàòà 
> ñðåùà, êàìî ëè íåùî ïîâå÷å...
>  Íèêîé íå å òðúãíàë (ïîíå àç òàêà ãî ðàçáðàõ) äà èççåìà ôóíêöèè íà LUG-BG. 
> Ïðîñòî â Ñîôèÿ õîðàòà ñà ìíîãî ðàçïèëÿíè.. Ìîæå â íÿêîé äðóã ãðàä äà å ïî-
> ëåñíî äà ñå ñúáåðàò íà åäíî ìÿñòî è äà ñè ñå êåôÿò íà òîâà, íî òóê å òðóäíî.
> È íà ôîíà íà òîâà çàïî÷âàò îáâèíåíèÿòà "âèå ñå ïðàâèòå íà âåëèêè"... Íåäåéòå, 
> áå, õîðà!! 
> 
>  Ñ òîâà ïîäêðåïÿì Êîíñòàíòèí Èâàíîâ. Íå çíàì òî÷íî êàêâà èì å èäåÿòà çà òàçè
> íîâà lug, íî â Ñîôèÿ íåùàòà èìàò ñïîñîáíîñòòà äà çàòèõâàò ìíîãî áúðçî. Ìåí 
> ëè÷íî áè ìè äîïàäíàëà ïîâå÷å èäåÿòà íå çà ïîùåíñêè ñïèñúê, à çà ðåäîâíà, 
> íàïðèìåð ñåäìè÷íà, ñðåùà íà õîðàòà íÿêúäå. Òîâà ìîæå äà å ìíîãî, ìíîãî ïî-
> öåííî! Êîíñòàíòèíå, ïîìèñëåòå çà òîâà è êàæåòå êàêâî ìèñëèòå; ìîæå è íà 
> ëè÷íèÿ ìåéë, äàæå êàòî ãëåäàì ðåàêöèèòå, ùå å ïî-äîáðå...;)
> 
>  AngelFire, íå ñå ñúðäè, íî íàèñòèíà íå áåøå êîëåãèàëíî äà óáèâàø òàêà èäåÿòà 
> îùå â çàðîäèø ;) Íàäÿâàì ñå ñè ðàçáðàë ìîòèâèòå ìè äà òè ïðîòèâîðå÷à òàêà;)
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Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID

2002-07-15 Thread Peter Kirkov






    ... oba4e tova ve4e maj si e Hardware RAID stoto se upravlqva ot specializirano negovo ustrojstvo, a ne kernela da se razpravq da combine partitions/disks, e.g. Software RAID.   Interesno za da podkara tova dobi4e kernel-a kakyv to4no sypport (t.e. za kakvo) trqbva da ima compiled, ako vyobste go ima de...

Popravete me, ako burkam, no si misleh, che Hardware RAID izglejda za kompiutara
kato 1 fizichesko ustrojstvo, nezawisimo 
ot kakvo tochno e sustaven RAID-a. Ako ima niakakuv software za takova chudo,
to shte e za monitoring i upravlenie, no ne i da poddarja RAID-a
t.e. da smiata kade kakvo triabva da se pishe po diskovete...

  
  
Syshto nqkoj wijdal li e IDE to SCSI convertori?
  
  

Tuk neshto ne razbiram - imash predwid konvertor s pomoshta na koito na SCSI
shina da zakachish IDE disk ? Samo edin ili nqkolko ?
Ako e edin, ne mislia che ima - kontrolera triabva da e dosta inteligenten
(t.e. skup ), zashtoto IDE i SCSI se razlichavat dosta, pak i kakvo se pecheli
:
razstoianie ( ako e Diff SCSI - do 25 m ) i broj ustrojstwa... kato jertvash
dosta proizwoditelnost. Moje bi e po-razumen onzi external RAID na Promise
( statiata v xbitlabs ) - izpolzvat se po-bavni diskove, kato se kompensira
cena...
IMHO ako se goni cena ( ogranichen biudjet i t.n. ) dostatuchno kadurno reshenie
e Software RAID - po - evtino e da se investira v kompiutara, otkolkoto v
dedicated hardware ustroistvo ( a i mashinkata moje da se izpolzva i za drugo
;-) - tuk veche triabva vnimatelno da se preceni natovarvaneto, iziskvaniata
i t.n. i e nai-dobre da stene sled natrupvane na malko prakticheski nabliudenia
nad konkretnata konfiguracia). Drug e vaprosa ako vi e po-shiroko okolo vrata
( t.e. shefa vi zamerva s pachki prez obednata pochivka ) - togava Hardware
RAID si e perfektno reshenie, kato izchislitelnoto natovarvane se prenasia
kam procesora na RAID-a, sashto taka se oblekchava i tovara po shinata, na
koiato e RAID-a ( bila tia SCSI ili neshto drugo... ).

  ako ima pazar nisto 4udno da ima samostoqtelno proizvezhdani i takiva, samo ne znam kak ste izravnqt transfer rate-a s tozi na istinski SCSI disk ;-)Osven tova ima i drugi izvrysteniq otnosno tova kakva media u4astva v RAID masiva, ta osven SCSI i IDE (ATA) disks, ima i RAID ot RAM disks, i Network RAID - nositelite sa SCSI ili IDE diskove i sa v mrezhata i sa connect-nati prez ATM/FDDI/GigaBit Ether ... nesto byrzo koeto osven routine network trafika da mozhe da prokarva ovreme i parity data za RAID-a...

Pribavi kam izvrashteniata i RAID ot 22 FC-AL diskove ( dvuportovi optichni
diskove... BTW interfeisat im e copper ) na Sun. Pusnahme RAID 5 na tova
neshto 
i biah ... meko kazano vpechatlen...


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Re: lug-bg: IDE-RAID

2002-07-15 Thread Boris Jordanov

On Sun, 14 Jul 2002 00:40:47 +0300 (EEST)
Alexander Velin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [FLAME MODE ON]
> 
> Kak pyk, da mu eba maikata ne te myrzi i da pishesh, a ??
> Poludiawam, kato gi widia takiwa kato teb.
> 
> [FLAME MODE OFF]
> 

Bravo, inteligentno i na mjasto kazano. Zashto izobshto si pravish truda da
otgovorish? Ponlakoga list-a plache za moderirane...


Take care


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