lug-bg: GNU na bylgarski

2003-02-07 Thread Spas Pavlov
Ïðåïå÷àòàíî îò www.linux-bg.org.
Òúðñÿò ñå  äîáðîâîëöè!

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Äíåñ íà www.cilaw.org ñúâìåñòíî ñúñ Ñäðóæåíèåòî Ñâîáîäåí ñîôòóåð ùå ñå 
îïèòàìå äà ñëîæèì íà÷àëîòî íà íîâà èíèöèàòèâà, ÷èÿòî öåë å å äà áúäàò 
ïðåâåäåíè íà áúëãàðñêè òåêñòîâå, êîèòî ðàçêðèâàò ñúùíîñòòà íà ñâîáîäíèÿ 
ñîôòóåð è íåãîâèòå ïðåäèìñòâà, à çàùî íå è íåäîñòàòúöèòå ìó.
 
Âñåêè, êîéòî ïðåâåäå åäèí îò ïðåäëîæåíèòå òåêñòîâå, ùå ïîëó÷è êàòî íàãðàäà 
äèñê ñ ïðåäâàðèòåëíà åêñïåðèìåíòàëíà âåðñèÿ íà äèñòðèáóöèÿ, áàçèðàíà íà 
Äåáèàí 3.0 è ñúçäàäåíà îò Àíòîí Çèíîâèåâ, êîÿòî àâòîìàòè÷íî èíñòàëèðà 
ïàêåòèòå ñ êèðèëñêè øðèôòîâå, êàêòî è áúëãàðñêè ïðàâîïèñåí êîðåêòîð.
 
Ïðåäëîæåíèÿòà çà ïðåâîä è íà÷èíà äà ó÷àñòâàòå ìîæå äà íàìåðèòå íà ñòðàíèöàòà 
çà ïðåâîäè íà www.cilaw.org. 
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RE: lug-bg: mozilla i java plugin

2003-02-07 Thread Georgi Sinapov

1. Symlink-yt trqbwa da e kym java_path_plugin/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so.
2. Naj-weroqtno java i mozilla sa kompilirani sys razli4no gcc. Java1.4.1 sys 
sigurnost e kompilirana s gcc2.x, a binary-to na mozilla, koeto si drypnal e 
kompilirano naj-weroqtno s 3.x. Prosto ednoto trqbwa da go instalirash ot source (pone 
az razbrah, 4e i dwete si gi instaliral ot binary).

Pri men s Mozilla 1.0.1 i java1.3.1_06 nqma problem, no az sym s RH80 i tam mozilla e 
kompilirana s (iznenada!) gcc2.96.

Best e-gards,
Georgi Sinapov

-Original Message-
From: Àòàíàñ Ìàâðîâ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 9:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: lug-bg: mozilla i java plugin

cut
Ñëåä òîâà ÿ ðàçàðõèâèðàõ è íàïðàâèõ ñèìâîëè÷íà âðúçêà ìåæäó 
j2re1.4.1_01/plugin/i386/ns4/javaplugin.so è mozilla-1.2.1/plugins
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Re: lug-bg: mozilla i java plugin

2003-02-07 Thread George Danchev
On 07 02 2003 11:04, Georgi Sinapov wrote:
 1. Symlink-yt trqbwa da e kym java_path_plugin/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so.
 2. Naj-weroqtno java i mozilla sa kompilirani sys razli4no gcc. Java1.4.1
 sys sigurnost e kompilirana s gcc2.x, a binary-to na mozilla, koeto si
 drypnal e kompilirano naj-weroqtno s 3.x. Prosto ednoto trqbwa da go
 instalirash ot source (pone az razbrah, 4e i dwete si gi instaliral ot
 binary).

 Pri men s Mozilla 1.0.1 i java1.3.1_06 nqma problem, no az sym s RH80 i tam
 mozilla e kompilirana s (iznenada!) gcc2.96.

Spored men miksiraneto na java i mozilla compiled s razni compilers v slu4aq, 
nqma zna4enie -- te ne se link-vat edno s drugo, a browser-a se link-va s 
plugina i ve4e znae kak da vika i polzva syotvetnata java runtime 
environment, no toj ne se link-va s neq ;-)

Eto kak e pri men:
/usr/local/netscape7/plugins/
java2/  (Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition Version 1.3.1)
(ne mi kazvajte 4e ne mi e dobra jvm-to, to si ide s Netscape-a i si e OK;-)

libjavaplugin_oji.so - 
/usr/local/netscape7/plugins/java2/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so

nppdf.so - /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/nppdf.so
plugger.so - /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/plugger.so
rpnp.so - /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/rpnp.so

Sled tova na vsi4ki Mozilli koito imam im pravq 
plugins/ - /usr/local/netscape7/plugins/

Taka vsi4ki use-vat vs4iki nali4ni plugins da vikat vsi4ki vynzhni apps... 
-- 
Greets, 
fr33zb1 


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Re: lug-bg: mozilla i java plugin

2003-02-07 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
Chestno si priznavam che ne sum chel nishto pochti ot tozi thread, ama
za da pomogna da spre ;-)) ei na kak az go napravih:

Download na JDK 1.4 ot IBM !! ( ne SUN - IBM  )
install v /opt/IBMJava
cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
ln -s /opt/IBMJava-XXX/jre/bin/* .

i tova e !

Íà ïò, 2003-02-07 â 12:09, George Danchev çàïèñà:
 On 07 02 2003 11:04, Georgi Sinapov wrote:
  1. Symlink-yt trqbwa da e kym java_path_plugin/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so.
  2. Naj-weroqtno java i mozilla sa kompilirani sys razli4no gcc. Java1.4.1
  sys sigurnost e kompilirana s gcc2.x, a binary-to na mozilla, koeto si
  drypnal e kompilirano naj-weroqtno s 3.x. Prosto ednoto trqbwa da go
  instalirash ot source (pone az razbrah, 4e i dwete si gi instaliral ot
  binary).
 
  Pri men s Mozilla 1.0.1 i java1.3.1_06 nqma problem, no az sym s RH80 i tam
  mozilla e kompilirana s (iznenada!) gcc2.96.
 
 Spored men miksiraneto na java i mozilla compiled s razni compilers v slu4aq, 
 nqma zna4enie -- te ne se link-vat edno s drugo, a browser-a se link-va s 
 plugina i ve4e znae kak da vika i polzva syotvetnata java runtime 
 environment, no toj ne se link-va s neq ;-)
 
 Eto kak e pri men:
 /usr/local/netscape7/plugins/
 java2/  (Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition Version 1.3.1)
 (ne mi kazvajte 4e ne mi e dobra jvm-to, to si ide s Netscape-a i si e OK;-)
 
 libjavaplugin_oji.so - 
 /usr/local/netscape7/plugins/java2/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so
 
 nppdf.so - /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/nppdf.so
 plugger.so - /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/plugger.so
 rpnp.so - /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/rpnp.so
 
 Sled tova na vsi4ki Mozilli koito imam im pravq 
 plugins/ - /usr/local/netscape7/plugins/
 
 Taka vsi4ki use-vat vs4iki nali4ni plugins da vikat vsi4ki vynzhni apps... 


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lug-bg: 3.0 ( )

2003-02-07 Thread
Çäðàâåéòå,

Ïðèÿòíî ìè å äà îáÿâà, ÷å âòîðîòî èçäàíèå íà ñòàòèÿòà íàé-ïîñëå å 
ãîòîâî[1].  Èçïðàùàì òîâà ïèñìî äî lug-bg, çàùîòî äîáàâêèòå ñà 
äîñòàòú÷íî ìíîãî, çà äà ñè ñòðóâà ÷îâåê äà ïðåãëåäà ñòàòèÿòà è âòîðè 
ïúò.  Ñòàòèÿòà ìîæå äà ïîìîãíå è íà ïîòðåáèòåëèòå íà bglinux, ìàêàð è 
ñèëíî äåôîðìèðàíà ïðåç äåáèàíñêè ïîãëåä.

Çà íåùàñòèå èìà íÿêàêâè ïðîáëåìè ñ ãîëåìèíèòå íà òåêñòà âúòðå â ãîëÿìàòà 
òàáëèöà.   IE ïðîáëåìèòå ñà ïî-ìàëêî, â Ìîçèëà -- ïîâå÷å.  Äàæå è âúâ 
âàðèàíòà çà îòïå÷àòâàíå íåùàòà íå ñå îïðàâÿò.  Òîâà ùå ãî çàêúðïÿ ïî-êúñíî.

[1] http://debian.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/~ogi/bg-woody.html

Ïîçäðàâè
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Re: lug-bg: 3.0 ( )

2003-02-07 Thread
Îãíÿí Êóëåâ wrote:

Ïðèÿòíî ìè å äà îáÿâà, ÷å âòîðîòî èçäàíèå íà ñòàòèÿòà íàé-ïîñëå å 
ãîòîâî[1].

Ñëåä êðàòúê ðàçìèñúë ñå óñåòèõ, ÷å íå ìó å ìÿñòîòî â lug-bg ñå îáÿâè 
òîâà, à â Linux-BG.  Òóê áåøå åäèíñòâåíîòî ìÿñòî, êúäåòî îáÿâèõ ïúðâîòî 
èçäàíèå, è çàòîâà ñå ïîäâåäîõ.  OK, íÿìà äà ñå ïîâòîðè ;-)

Ïîçäðàâè
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lug-bg: Kak se tegli zonata za domaina .

2003-02-07 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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Kak da izteglite zonata .? Mnogo prosto, izpylnete slednia
comanden red (blagodarnosti na Paul Vixie):

dig @f.root-servers.net . AXFR

ROOT-serverite, koito pozvoliavat iztegliane na zonata za
domaina . sa slednite:

b.root-servers.net
c.root-servers.net
f.root-servers.net
(za m ne se znae.. : failed: host unreachable.)

Obshto pravilo: Samo universitetite i ISC davat svobodni sesii
za iztegliane na zonata za domaina ... Drugite ne davat.

  Pozdravi
Vesselin Kolev
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Re: lug-bg: OpenOffice, FreeOffice and M$ Office

2003-02-07 Thread Atanas Stoyanov
 Nalaga mi se da instaliram free M$ Office (Word and Excel) alternativa na
 edna Win9x boza.
openoffice.org


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RE: lug-bg: Kak se tegli zonata za domaina .

2003-02-07 Thread Boyan Krosnov
authoritive iztochnika za . zonata e
ftp://ftp.internic.net/domain/root.zone.gz
w syshtata direktoriq se namirat i nqkolko drugi zoni kakto i pgp podpis
na vsqka ot zonite
pak tam shte namerite i poslednata versiq na named.root faila, kojto e
neobhodim za inicializirane na bazata na caching dns serveri.

BR,
Boyan

-Original Message-
From: Vesselin Kolev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 3:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: lug-bg: Kak se tegli zonata za domaina .


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Kak da izteglite zonata .? Mnogo prosto, izpylnete slednia comanden
red (blagodarnosti na Paul Vixie):

dig @f.root-servers.net . AXFR

ROOT-serverite, koito pozvoliavat iztegliane na zonata za domaina . sa
slednite:

b.root-servers.net
c.root-servers.net
f.root-servers.net
(za m ne se znae.. : failed: host unreachable.)

Obshto pravilo: Samo universitetite i ISC davat svobodni sesii za
iztegliane na zonata za domaina ... Drugite ne davat.

  Pozdravi
Vesselin Kolev
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lug-bg: konfigurirane na lin s tri eth-ta

2003-02-07 Thread Vasko Tomanov

kolegi imam nujda ot malko pomosh ot niakoi koito e saglasen da mi pomogne kak da 
konfiguriram edna Linux mahina s tri mrejovi interfejsa kato bridje, maskirane i 
firewall..

ako niakoi ima jelanie da mi pomogne molia da mi pusne edin mail na [EMAIL PROTECTED] za da mu 
pratia shemata na mrejata i vsithko da ne prashtam grafiki w listata 

blagodaria predvaritelno na otzovalite se

vasko



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From: Ted Zlatanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:04 PM
Posted To: vtomanov
Conversation: lug-bg: modifikacia na sring
Subject: Re: lug-bg: modifikacia na sring


On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 niakoi shte mi napishe li script s koito niz vyv format 08-01-03 da
 se zamesti s 2003-01-08.  10q

??? ???, ??  ? ?? 2000 + ??:

echo 08-01-03 | perl -pe '$_ = $3+2000 . -$2-$1 if m/(\d\d)-(\d\d)-(\d\d)/'

??  ?? , ?? 99 ? 2099.   ??  ?? ??? ?? ?? ??? ??
??.

???

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RE: lug-bg: konfigurirane na lin s tri eth-ta

2003-02-07 Thread Boyan Krosnov
daj mi shemite, taq nosht shte gi pregledam i shte ti dam primeren
konfig

-Original Message-
From: Vasko Tomanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 4:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: lug-bg: konfigurirane na lin s tri eth-ta



kolegi imam nujda ot malko pomosh ot niakoi koito e saglasen da mi
pomogne kak da konfiguriram edna Linux mahina s tri mrejovi interfejsa
kato bridje, maskirane i firewall..

ako niakoi ima jelanie da mi pomogne molia da mi pusne edin mail na
[EMAIL PROTECTED] za da mu pratia shemata na mrejata i vsithko da ne prashtam
grafiki w listata 

blagodaria predvaritelno na otzovalite se

vasko



-Original Message-
From: Ted Zlatanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Friday, February 07, 2003 1:04 PM
Posted To: vtomanov
Conversation: lug-bg: modifikacia na sring
Subject: Re: lug-bg: modifikacia na sring


On Fri, 7 Feb 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 niakoi shte mi napishe li script s koito niz vyv format 08-01-03 da se

 zamesti s 2003-01-08.  10q

??? ???, ??  ? ?? 2000 + ??:

echo 08-01-03 | perl -pe '$_ = $3+2000 . -$2-$1 if
m/(\d\d)-(\d\d)-(\d\d)/'

??  ?? , ?? 99 ? 2099.   ??  ?? ??? ?? ?? ??? ??
??.

???


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RE: lug-bg: courier-imap server i server side message rules

2003-02-07 Thread Peter An. Zyumbilev



export 
na rules ot outlook i posle import ?

Peter Zyumbilev
Web Developer  Administrator
BIVOL BULGARIA
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: http://www.bivol.net
tel.: +359 88 966940

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On 
  Behalf Of Nikolay HristovSent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:45 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: lug-bg: 
  courier-imap server i server side message rules
  
  zdraveite
  
  niakoi da e sreshtal takova neshto .. web 
  interface za pravene na msg rules pri poluchavane na mailovete da se sortirat 
  po raznite mu tam kutii/papki/folderi/direktorii ili kakto gi narichat oshte 
  na servera .. ideiata e kogato se preinstalirat windowsite tuka da ne se igrae 
  da se prehvarliat msg rules i t.n. ami vsichko da si e na servera 
  gotovo
  
  Nikolay 
Hristov


Re: lug-bg: Mem usage LinuxWindows

2003-02-07 Thread George Danchev
On 07 02 2003 20:02, Valentin Tzankov wrote:
 Linux-a systo swap-wa idle processi 

kwapd e kernel thread kojto osvobozhdava fizi4eska pamet kogato e 
fragmentirana ili izcqlo zaeta ... (tova naj-osto , shemata e mnogo mnogo 
slozhna i ne vqrvamda q razberesh ot sources ... ;-) 

no e s mnogo malki segmenti, pone v
 kernel-a sa zalojeni 8,16,32K blokove,

q predi da pishesh izsmukano ot prystite si se osvedomi za tova kakvo e swap 
I/O in clusters, swap_cluster, kswapd i t.n. ot kernel sources v mm/ i 
Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt ... 

 i taka Linux ne moje da izpolzva spored men dobre bandwidth na HDD(
 35-45 MB/sec),

kak e polu4i tazi I/O stojnost ? za kakvi diskovi kontroleri? 
az nabludavam 10 pyti po-golqma ... 

btw, 2.4.0 imashe mnogo losh vm (swap) problem, no e prenapraven mnogo mnogo 
otdavna... 

 az znam che ima mnogo prichini tova da e taka i ne smjatam che e
 nedostatyk, no ot druga strana MS javno swapvat-a na ogromni segmeni,
 mnogo mi e interesno kak go pravjat spored men te vinagi sa imali
 problemi s fragmentatziata,
 a swap-a im ochevidno raboti mnogo dobre.

izvinqvaj 4e taka ti go kazvam, ama o4evidno ti mnogo ne si naqsno s ponqtiqta 
i az neznam zasto vyobste ti otgovarqm;-)... Ne vizhdam zasto se pravish na 
interesen zasqgajki i obqsnqwajki temi ot kojto i ideq nqmash... i 
popadash vse na takiva kydeto Linux e obezkurazhavasto dobyr ... Kazhi 4e 
Linux vse oste ne e tolko scalable na hppa architecture taka kakto hp-ux e 
(hello velin) ... i ste se vpe4atlq ... kvi vindovsi za shirpotreba na evtini 
x86-ci davash za primer tuka ... 

-- 
Greets, 
fr33zb1 


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Re: lug-bg: courier-imap server i server side message rules

2003-02-07 Thread Nikolay Hristov



chestno kazano aman ot nekompetentni otgovori i 
gluposti .. dori kato si pomislia mi se struva che hich i ne si prochel kakvo 
sam napisal ? tam nai otdolu shte citiram pak: " ... da ne se igrae da se 
prehvarliat msg rules i t.n. ami vsichko da si e na servera gotovo"
kato niama kvo da kajesh ne go kazvai! 


btw vse poveche se zamisliam i az dali tazi mailing 
lista ne triabva da se moderira .. az lichno riadko pisha tuk i pisha samo 
kogato naistina imam problem a ne "da laia meseca" kakto zabeliazvam s vposledno 
vreme ot postingite i super mi e gotino kato polucha niakakyv kretenski otgovor 
ot chovek deto ne mi e i prochel pismoto

Nikolay Hristov

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Peter An. Zyumbilev 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 8:03 
  PM
  Subject: RE: lug-bg: courier-imap server 
  i server side message rules
  
  export na rules ot outlook i posle import 
  ?
  
  Peter Zyumbilev
  Web Developer  Administrator
  BIVOL BULGARIA
  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  web: http://www.bivol.net
  tel.: +359 88 966940
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nikolay 
HristovSent: Friday, February 07, 2003 9:45 AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: lug-bg: courier-imap server i 
server side message rules

zdraveite

niakoi da e sreshtal takova neshto .. web 
interface za pravene na msg rules pri poluchavane na mailovete da se 
sortirat po raznite mu tam kutii/papki/folderi/direktorii ili kakto gi 
narichat oshte na servera .. ideiata e kogato se preinstalirat windowsite 
tuka da ne se igrae da se prehvarliat msg rules i t.n. ami vsichko da si e 
na servera gotovo

Nikolay 
Hristov