date:20030219

On 20 02 2003 09:06, Damyan Ivanov wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 08:45:32AM +0200 George Danchev wrote:
> > On 19 02 2003 14:02, Nickola Kolev wrote:
> > > Ñìåëî ñè ïðèçíàâàì, ÷å íà äâå êðèòè÷íè ñèñòåìè òúðêàëÿì unstable. È
> > > å àáñîëþòíî âÿðíî, ÷å ïðîáëåìèòå ñà ðåäêè, íî çàòîâà ïúê ãîëåìè. :)
> >
> > çà òîâà ñè èìà debian-devel, getbugs.pl, apt-listchanges, apt-listbugs &
> > friends ;-)
>
> debian-devel å ãîëÿìà áåëÿ çà ÷åòåíå, ÷îâåê ìîæ öÿë äåí òîâà äà ïðàâè -
> êàòî CNN å. Çà ñúæàëåíèå âðåìåòî å äîñòà öåíåí ðåñóðñ è ïîðàäè òîâà
> debian-devel ñè îñòàâà íåïðî÷åòåí, ïîíå çà ìåí.
>
> apt-listchanges å äîáðå äîøëî, àìà â Changelog-à íå ïèøå äàëè èìà
> ñåðèîçíè ïðîáëåìè :-)
>
> getbugs.pl è apt-listbugs íå ãè íàìèðàì ñ `apt-cache search'. Êúäå ìîãà
> äà ïîãëåäíà çà ïîâå÷å èíôîðìàöèÿ?

see experimental ;-)
http://packages.debian.org/experimental/admin/apt-listbugs.html
along with apt-show-versions, apt-show-source

getbulgs.pl ãî òî÷èõ íÿêúäå îò site íà Ben Colins... committed â 
debian-book/utils + drugi mryzni utils/patches ...

> È íàêðàÿ, ïðåäïî÷èòàì äà ðèñêóâàì ñ íîâèòå ïàêåòè, âìåñòî äà ÷åòà ìíîãî

àç ñúì íà ìíåíèå, ÷å mix îò unstable/experimental/unofficials ìîæå äà ñå 
åêñïëîàòèðà ìåòîäè÷íî è áåçìèëîñòíî êàòî stable ;-) ... Ïèñàíå òðåáå, 
ïèñàí ;-)

> :-) Â êðàÿ íà êðàèùàòà, àêî íåùî ñå ïðåöàêà (ðÿäêî, íàèñòèíà ðÿäêî), òî
>
> ñòàðèòå âåðñèè íà ïàêåòèòå ñå íàâúðòàò íàîêîëî (êñïîìåíàõ ëè êîëêî
> õóáàâî íåùî å apt-proxy?).

äà, è òîâà ãî ñïîìåíà ;-), ñïîìåíàòî å è â debian-book êàòî ðåñóðñ íà 
geroy/devane è ò.í. will be merged , íàäÿâàì ñå äà ìó ïàäíå òåìïåðàòóðàòà íà 
devane-òî ;-)... Èìà è äðóãè ðåçà÷êè â îáëàñòòà... Abe t

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Re: lug-bg: debian stable/unstable/testing

On Thu, Feb 20, 2003 at 08:45:32AM +0200 George Danchev wrote:
> On 19 02 2003 14:02, Nickola Kolev wrote:
> > Ñìåëî ñè ïðèçíàâàì, ÷å íà äâå êðèòè÷íè ñèñòåìè òúðêàëÿì unstable. È
> > å àáñîëþòíî âÿðíî, ÷å ïðîáëåìèòå ñà ðåäêè, íî çàòîâà ïúê ãîëåìè. :)
> 
> çà òîâà ñè èìà debian-devel, getbugs.pl, apt-listchanges, apt-listbugs & 
> friends ;-)

debian-devel å ãîëÿìà áåëÿ çà ÷åòåíå, ÷îâåê ìîæ öÿë äåí òîâà äà ïðàâè -
êàòî CNN å. Çà ñúæàëåíèå âðåìåòî å äîñòà öåíåí ðåñóðñ è ïîðàäè òîâà
debian-devel ñè îñòàâà íåïðî÷åòåí, ïîíå çà ìåí.

apt-listchanges å äîáðå äîøëî, àìà â Changelog-à íå ïèøå äàëè èìà
ñåðèîçíè ïðîáëåìè :-)

getbugs.pl è apt-listbugs íå ãè íàìèðàì ñ `apt-cache search'. Êúäå ìîãà
äà ïîãëåäíà çà ïîâå÷å èíôîðìàöèÿ?

È íàêðàÿ, ïðåäïî÷èòàì äà ðèñêóâàì ñ íîâèòå ïàêåòè, âìåñòî äà ÷åòà ìíîãî
:-) Â êðàÿ íà êðàèùàòà, àêî íåùî ñå ïðåöàêà (ðÿäêî, íàèñòèíà ðÿäêî), òî
ñòàðèòå âåðñèè íà ïàêåòèòå ñå íàâúðòàò íàîêîëî (êñïîìåíàõ ëè êîëêî
õóáàâî íåùî å apt-proxy?).

äàì

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lug-bg: Каскадно прокси

2003-02-19 Thread Todor Lazarov

Hello lug-bg,

Àêî ìîæå ìàëêî ïîìîù.

Èìàì äâà ïðîêñè ñúðâåðà (squid 2.5.STABLE1)
Èñêàì åäèíèÿ (IP_1) äà ãî âúðæà êúì äðóãèÿ.

ò.å. äà ñòàíå parent íà äðóãèÿ.

Â squid.conf

Îïèñâàì ñëåäíîòî íà ïðîêñè ñ àäðåñ IP_1:

cache_peer IP_2 parent 3128 3130
cache_peer_domain IP_2 .com .net .bg


À íà ïðîêñè ñ IP (IP_2).
Äîáàâÿì ïðîêñè ñ IP_1 â access list


Åòî è ñõåìàòà:


IP_1 || IP_2

Íî êîãàòî ïðîêñè IP_1 ïîäàäå çàÿâêà êúì IP_2
â ëîãà ñå âèæäà ñëåäíîòî:

1045723268.394  0 IP_1   UDP_MISS/000 39 ICP_QUERY http://www.dir.bg/ - NONE/- -
1045723314.372  0 IP_1   UDP_MISS/000 43 ICP_QUERY http://www.007.dir.bg/ - NONE/- 
-

Êîåòî ìå íàâåæäà íà ìèñúëòà ÷å íå å íàðåä.
Èíà÷å àêî íÿêîé host ñå âúðæå êúì ïðîêñèòî IP_2 íÿìà ïðîáëåìè.

Êúäå ãðåøà.


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Re: lug-bg: debian stable/unstable/testing

On 19 02 2003 14:02, Nickola Kolev wrote:
>  George wrote:
> 
>
>  > ami preceni sam brq... mozhesh da polzvash kakvoto si poiskash... na
>  > Testing  naprimer mozhesh da poiskash da apt-get install
>  > edikvosi/unstable (samo to + dependencies ste byde preto4eno ot tam,
>  > dokato si hapvash morena+coffe) ... Sid (demek unstable) ne e za vseki,
>  > no pyk dosta hora go polzvat otkroveno i to s ezhednevni updates i v
>  > production environment (ne se sramuvajte, priznajte si;-) Da ne govorim
>  > 4e obi4ajna praktika e mixed systems (stable/testing/unstable + edna
>  > kamara unofficial deb's, local i t.n... ludnica). Remember:
>  > printk("Dobrite mom4eta pravqt kakvoto mogat, loshite kakvoto si
>  > poiskat\n");
>
> 
> Ñìåëî ñè ïðèçíàâàì, ÷å íà äâå êðèòè÷íè ñèñòåìè òúðêàëÿì unstable. È å
> àáñîëþòíî âÿðíî, ÷å ïðîáëåìèòå ñà ðåäêè, íî çàòîâà ïúê ãîëåìè. :)

çà òîâà ñè èìà debian-devel, getbugs.pl, apt-listchanges, apt-listbugs & 
friends ;-)

> Áòâ, èäåÿòà çà ñìåñåíà ñèñòåìà íå å ìíîãî äîáðà, ïîíå îò ëè÷åí îïèò. Íå
> ìîæàõ äà ïîäêàðàì äâå ðàçëè÷íè âåðñèè íà glibc, êàòî ïî-íîâàòà áåøå
> çàâèñèìîñò íà vsftpd 1.1.3, ñëåä êîåòî ñå îìàçàõà äîñòà íåùà. :)

çà òîâà ñè èìà debian-devel, getbugs.pl, apt-listchanges, apt-listbugs & 
friends ;-)
ùå ãè îïèøåìå òèÿ íåùà ... è òè ùå ïîìàãàø :PPP

> Anyway, ðú÷êàéòå ñìåëî unstable, à àêî íå âè ñå çàíèìàâà - êþòàéòå ñè íà
> stable. Çàñåãà å âñå îùå ïîíîñèìà ñèñòåìà, íî ñëåä 1 ãîäèíà (èëè ïîâå÷å,
> àêî ñå ïîâòîðè release öèêúëà íà 2.2) ùå ñè ãîâîðèì ïàê. ;")

èíòåðåñíè ïðåäëîæåíèÿ ;-)
http://www.debian.org/vote/2003/vote_0001
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Re: lug-bg: apache+mod_ssl no password

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On Wednesday 19 February 2003 18:03, emo terziev wrote:
> da ne se zaiajdame tuk.
>   blagodaren sam che mi pokaza kade ima info po
> vaprosa.
> spisti mi dosta vreme. NO ne biva taka da se podmiata
> za
> koj e chel i koj ne.

1. Preporukata mi beshe da prochetesh thread-a do kraja, a ne da chetesh in 
general.

> Prodto iskam da kaja che ne e nujno da se zamisli
> chovek za da rodi genialnata misal za SSL bez
> parola.TOVA NE E RESHENIE.znam go no ne bih go

2. Nuzno e. Kato go napravish ste vidish che to e tochno tolkova dobro 
reshenie kolkoto i tova koeto si izbral - t.e. kogato njakoi vzeme root na 
servera ti i dvete reshenia pet pari ne struvat.

> polzval.Iavno e che po vreme na predishnata diskusia i
> ti si bil naiasno toklova kolkoto az sega taka che da
> ostavim nestata do tuk.

3. :)

If you cant't beat them - join them. Taka da e.

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Re: lug-bg: apache+mod_ssl no password

da ne se zaiajdame tuk. 
  blagodaren sam che mi pokaza kade ima info po
vaprosa.
spisti mi dosta vreme. NO ne biva taka da se podmiata
za 
koj e chel i koj ne.
Prodto iskam da kaja che ne e nujno da se zamisli
chovek za da rodi genialnata misal za SSL bez
parola.TOVA NE E RESHENIE.znam go no ne bih go
polzval.Iavno e che po vreme na predishnata diskusia i
ti si bil naiasno toklova kolkoto az sega taka che da
ostavim nestata do tuk.

imashe problem vidihme reshenieto stiga tolkova

emo
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> On Wednesday 19 February 2003 17:37, emo terziev
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> >  tova ne beche nujno poslednoto.
> >  viaiahme edni genialni misli za SSL bez parola
> > v predishnata diskusia  taka che da ne
> > govorim koj e chel i koj ne :)))
> 
> Genialnite misli za SSL certificate bez parola, v
> tova koeto te karam da 
> prochetesh do kraja sum gi pisal az, taka, che
> sigurno znam za kakvo govorja 
> :)
> Malko zamisljane ne vredi, opitaj :)
> 
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Re: lug-bg: Въвеждане на български в Емакс (може да се въвежда!!!)

2003-02-19 Thread Огнян Кулев

On Monday 17 February 2003 11:03, Îãíÿí Êóëåâ wrote:
Åòî åäíî ïðîñòî ðåøåíèå.

#!/bin/bash
export LANG=bg_BG
export ASPELL_CONF="lang bg"
emacs -font "-rfx-courier-medium-r-normal--18-180-75-75-m-110-microsoft-cp1251" -geometry 80x24+0+0 -r $1


Çàðàäè òîâà ïðîñòî "ðåøåíèå" íå èçïîëçâàì language-env, êîéòî ïàêåò å 
÷àñò îò bglinux.  Ïî òîçè íà÷èí øðèôòúò, äàäåí ÷ðåç -fn, ñå ïðèåìà çà 
iso8859-1 è âõîäúò îò X ñå âúçïðèåìà êàòî iso8859-1.  Âñè÷êî òîâà ãî 
îðãàíèçèðà language-env.  Íàèñòèíà, ðàáîòè, íî òîâà ñè å íàãëàñÿíå.

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Re: lug-bg: apache+mod_ssl no password

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On Wednesday 19 February 2003 17:37, emo terziev wrote:
>  tova ne beche nujno poslednoto.
>  viaiahme edni genialni misli za SSL bez parola
> v predishnata diskusia  taka che da ne
> govorim koj e chel i koj ne :)))

Genialnite misli za SSL certificate bez parola, v tova koeto te karam da 
prochetesh do kraja sum gi pisal az, taka, che sigurno znam za kakvo govorja 
:)
Malko zamisljane ne vredi, opitaj :)

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Re: lug-bg: apache+mod_ssl no password

 tova ne beche nujno poslednoto.
 viaiahme edni genialni misli za SSL bez parola 
v predishnata diskusia  taka che da ne 
govorim koj e chel i koj ne :)))



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> >  za tezi koito gi unteresuva - slaga se
> >
> > SSLPassPhraseDialog exec:/sbin/mypass
> > vav /sbin/mypass se pravi echo na parolata
> 
> Za tezi koito gi interesuva - ja vzemete i
> prochetete thread-a do kraja :))
> 
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Re: lug-bg: apache+mod_ssl no password

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On Wednesday 19 February 2003 17:21, emo terziev wrote:
> mersi ...
>  za tezi koito gi unteresuva - slaga se
>
> SSLPassPhraseDialog exec:/sbin/mypass
> vav /sbin/mypass se pravi echo na parolata

Za tezi koito gi interesuva - ja vzemete i prochetete thread-a do kraja :))

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Re: lug-bg: apache+mod_ssl no password

mersi ...
 za tezi koito gi unteresuva - slaga se 

SSLPassPhraseDialog exec:/sbin/mypass 
vav /sbin/mypass se pravi echo na parolata

emo
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> > Zdravejte ,
> >  naete li kak moje na apache+mod_ssl
> 
>
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Re: lug-bg: apache+mod_ssl no password

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>  naete li kak moje na apache+mod_ssl

http://linux-bulgaria.org/lug-bg-list/archive/2002/Sep/0008.html

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lug-bg: apache+mod_ssl no password

Zdravejte ,
 naete li kak moje na apache+mod_ssl 
da mu se podava avtonaichno parolata za SSL klucha pri
startirane na apacha?
 nesto ne moga da popadna na chitava docs za tova

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lug-bg: Advanced SMTP Routing - custom MX hierarchy in mailertable hosts list - (Sendmail extended manual) - Documentation

2003-02-19 Thread Vesselin Kolev

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Zdraveite,
  Za da ne ostana naistna samo napisano v LUG-a, a da e dostypno v normalen
format (formati) za chetene, napisah documentacia po temata:

 Àëòåðíàòèâíî ìàðøðóòèçèðàíå íà åëåêòðîíåí ïîùåíñêè òðàôèê ÷ðåç ñúçäàâàíå íà 
MX éåðàðõèÿ ðàçëè÷íà îò òàçè íà äîìåéíà íà ïîëó÷àòåëÿ

 Mozhete da izteglite documentaciata v slednite formati ot posochenite linkove 
kakto sledva:

Plain Text: 
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Re: lug-bg: Nvidia na knoppix

On 19 02 2003 14:52, Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:
> > http://kernelnewbies.org/faq/
> >
> > Potarsi na tazi stranica "How do I compile a module".
>
> hi :)
> 10x za linka
> no kato gledam towa:
> 
>
>
>   MODVERSIONS
>
> Modversions is the versioning system for kernel exported symbols. To
> build against it :
>
> * You must add -DMODVERSIONS to the compile line
> * The first include must be 
> * If you are building a module from multiple source files, you must
>   #define __NO_VERSION__ in all but one of the .c source files. Note
>   this is not necessary with recent kernel versions.
> * You must not include modversions.h directly if your module is
>   included in the kernel source. If you are buiding externally,
>   include the correct modversions.h only when module versions is
>   enabled (it is best to add it to the compile line as the kernel does)

Absolutno vqrno ! Gledajki v sources na Nvidia se pravi to4no tova, naprimer 
os-interface.c (nv.c analogi4no):

#ifdef CONFIG_MODVERSIONS
#define MODVERSIONS
#include 
#endif

!!! T.e. pravi se proverka !!! 

#define __NO_VERSION__  // tell module.h to not define 
__module_kernel_version
// it was already defined for nv.c

#include 
(indirektno vklu4va modversions.h) ala bla portokala i t.n. 

T.e. v sources na Nvidia vsi4ko si e nared, drug e vyprosa za tova ugly file 
Module-nvkernel deto go razprostranqvat binary-only (mislq 4e skoro ste dadat 
i source-to) ... Ako ima tuka problemi ili bad code togava sao te mogat da gi 
reshat .

a /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h koito ot svoq strana include-va 
include/linux/modsetver.h e neobhodim zaradi symbol versioning definitions... 
t.e da se get-net ot kernel sources v module build-a...  t.e. da ima version 
kontrol mezhdu kernel image-to deto e compiled s CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y i 
module-to bilo to i ugly polu-binary s vyrtelezhki kato os interfaces. 

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Re: lug-bg: Alsa Sound

Íà ñð, 2003-02-19 â 14:50, Alexander Atanasov çàïèñà:

> 
> http://www.openh323.org/
E sega - to e iasno che tam sme bili i az lichno sum deploynal vsichko
kvoto moje.

> http://www.voiceage.com/g729/
A tova puk kak moje da mi pomogne ? Pratiha mi horata sorca, ama ako moje
niakoi da mi kaje s kakvo se kompilira, ima i niakakvi EXE-ta, i mai
vuobshte ne stava za *nix.


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Re: lug-bg: Alsa Sound

2003-02-19 Thread Alexander Atanasov

On 19 Feb 2003 12:09:51 +0200
"Ivaylo Toshev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A êàæè ìè òîãàâà êîå å òîâà ïðèëîæåíèå ïîä LINUX êîåòî ïîëçâà G.729a ?

http://www.openh323.org/

> A è â ìîìåíòà ñ Êëèìåíò ñè ïèøåì è òîé òúðñè òî÷íî òîçè êîäåê G.729a
> ïîääúðâî è êàìúê - àìà òö ! Íÿìà ! È â ñêëàäà íÿìà è îò Ñüþçà íå
> ïðàùàò...;-)
> 

http://www.voiceage.com/g729/

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Re: lug-bg: Nvidia na knoppix

2003-02-19 Thread Tsvetin Vasilev


http://kernelnewbies.org/faq/

Potarsi na tazi stranica "How do I compile a module".


hi :)
10x za linka
no kato gledam towa:



 MODVERSIONS

Modversions is the versioning system for kernel exported symbols. To 
build against it :

   * You must add -DMODVERSIONS to the compile line
   * The first include must be 
   * If you are building a module from multiple source files, you must
 #define __NO_VERSION__ in all but one of the .c source files. Note
 this is not necessary with recent kernel versions.
   * You must not include modversions.h directly if your module is
 included in the kernel source. If you are buiding externally,
 include the correct modversions.h only when module versions is
 enabled (it is best to add it to the compile line as the kernel does)

Please also read http://www.tux.org/lkml/, especially questions 8-7 and 8-8


 External packaging

If you are distributing your module as a separate package, it is best to 
include some autoconf setup for detecting the kernel to compile against 
(defaulting to the /lib/modules/... path as above). Once your configure 
script has found the kernel, it can include Rules.make to use the right 
compiler flags etc. (this is especially important for 
architecture-specific flags). The CIPE module, for example, does this
===
Ne wizhdam kakyw e problema s binary modulite koito se razprostraniawat 
ot proizwoditelite i na koito im se prekompilira interfejsa kym kernela ?
w krajna smetka stigame do tam che wyprosnijat fajl se includwa po edin 
ili drug nachin
a za da se generira wyprosnijat fajl ni triabwa conf na kernela
Estestweno towa e viarno za kerneli w koito e razreshena dadenata opcija
btw sega poglednah w src-to na modulite kym vmware mdam vkliuchwat si go...
jawno im triabwa i w naj nowata wersija .. pak go wkliuchwat




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Re: lug-bg: Nvidia na knoppix

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 01:56:51PM +0200 Qsin wrote:
> Reshih da compiliram nanovo kernela. Napravih go. Instalirah kernel i
> glx na NVidia bez problemi. Promenih nastrojkite na GLCore, dri i nv v
> XF86Config-4.

Izpolzvam sashtiya driver sas 2.4.20 i X 4.2.1.1 - raboti.

Taka kato gledam si propusnal da instalirash NVdriver sled kompilaciyata
na yadroto. make modules_install prochistva /lib/modules i sled tova e
neobhodimo da si pusnesh make install v directoriyata s drayvera na NV.

eto ya cyalata procedura, koyato izpolzvvam:
- compile kernel, install, reboot X-a ne tragva :-)
- cd nvidia-kernel
- make install - tova kompilira, instalira NVdriver v /lib/modules i
  go zarezhda s modprobe
- cd nvidia-glx
- make install
- /etc/init.gdm restart
- work :-)


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Re: lug-bg: Nvidia na knoppix

2003-02-19 Thread Qsin

> seriozno me myrzi da gledam, no ako iskash da razberesh kakvo to4no stava
> instaliraj si debian packages (ili prosto im drypni sources) -
nvidia-glx-src
> i nvidia-kernel-src i pro4eti kakvo se suggest-va v doc, demek
> /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/README.Debian...
> --
> printk("Greets, fr33zb1\n");


Reshih da compiliram nanovo kernela. Napravih go. Instalirah kernel i glx
na NVidia bez problemi. Promenih nastrojkite na GLCore, dri i nv v
XF86Config-4.
Efecta e porazitelen javno shte trjabva da opitam Method #2 ot
/usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/README.Debian

Po-dolu davam log-a na XFree86. Podoziram razlika vuv versijata.
Ako pravilno sum razbral tija driveri na NVidia sa za 4.0.2 na X-a.
a Knoppix-a e s 4.2.0:

XFree86 Version 4.2.0 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600)
Release Date: 18 January 2002
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18-rc4 i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed Feb 19 13:42:52 2003
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
(==) ServerLayout "XFree86 Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) | |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(**) Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
(**) XKB: rules: "xfree86"
(**) Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
(**) XKB: model: "pc104"
(**) Option "XkbLayout" "us"
(**) XKB: layout: "us"
(==) Keyboard: CustomKeycode disabled
(**) |-->Input Device "PS/2 Mouse"
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType" does not
exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to
"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X
11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/
lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib
/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyri
llic,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western,/usr/share/
fonts/ttf/decoratives,/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
(**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
(**) Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
(--) using VT number 7
(II) Open APM successful
(II) Module ABI versions:
XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1
XFree86 Video Driver: 0.5
XFree86 XInput driver : 0.3
XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1
XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.3
(II) Loader running on linux
(II) LoadModule: "bitmap"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a
(II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer
ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.3
(II) Loading font Bitmap
(II) LoadModule: "pcidata"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a
(II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1
(II) PCI: Config type is 1
(II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x80009850, mode1Res1 = 0x8000
(II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex)
(II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0305 card 147b,a401 rev 03 class 06,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8305 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr
01
(II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 1106,0686 card 147b, rev 40 class 06,01,00 hdr
80
(II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 1106,0571 card 1106,0571 rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:07:2: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 1106,3038 card 0925,1234 rev 16 class 0c,03,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:07:4: chip 1106,3057 card 1106,3057 rev 40 class 06,80,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:0b:0: chip 10b7,9200 card 10b7,1000 rev 74 class 02,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:0f:0: chip 10b7,9200 card 10b7,1000 rev 74 class 02,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 00:13:0: chip 1103,0004 card 1103,0001 rev 04 class 01,80,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 10de,0028 card 10de,0005 rev 15 class 03,00,00 hdr
00
(II) PCI: End of PCI scan
(II) LoadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
compiled for 4.2.0, module version = 0.1.0
ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5
(II) UnloadModule: "scanpci"
(II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a
(II) Host-to-PCI bridge:
(II) PCI-to-ISA bridge:
(II) PCI-to-PCI bridge:
(II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x08 (VGA_EN is set)
(II) Bus 0 I/O range:
[0] -1 0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B]
(II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range:
[0] -1 0x - 0xf

Re: lug-bg: debian stable/unstable/testing

2003-02-19 Thread Nickola Kolev

 George wrote:

 > ami preceni sam brq... mozhesh da polzvash kakvoto si poiskash... na Testing 
 > naprimer mozhesh da poiskash da apt-get install edikvosi/unstable (samo to + 
 > dependencies ste byde preto4eno ot tam, dokato si hapvash morena+coffe) ... 
 > Sid (demek unstable) ne e za vseki, no pyk dosta hora go polzvat otkroveno i 
 > to s ezhednevni updates i v production environment (ne se sramuvajte, 
 > priznajte si;-) Da ne govorim 4e obi4ajna praktika e mixed systems 
 > (stable/testing/unstable + edna kamara unofficial deb's, local i t.n... 
 > ludnica). Remember:
 > printk("Dobrite mom4eta pravqt kakvoto mogat, loshite kakvoto si poiskat\n");

Ñìåëî ñè ïðèçíàâàì, ÷å íà äâå êðèòè÷íè ñèñòåìè òúðêàëÿì unstable. È å àáñîëþòíî
âÿðíî, ÷å ïðîáëåìèòå ñà ðåäêè, íî çàòîâà ïúê ãîëåìè. :)

Áòâ, èäåÿòà çà ñìåñåíà ñèñòåìà íå å ìíîãî äîáðà, ïîíå îò ëè÷åí îïèò. Íå
ìîæàõ äà ïîäêàðàì äâå ðàçëè÷íè âåðñèè íà glibc, êàòî ïî-íîâàòà áåøå çàâèñèìîñò
íà vsftpd 1.1.3, ñëåä êîåòî ñå îìàçàõà äîñòà íåùà. :)

Anyway, ðú÷êàéòå ñìåëî unstable, à àêî íå âè ñå çàíèìàâà - êþòàéòå ñè íà
stable. Çàñåãà å âñå îùå ïîíîñèìà ñèñòåìà, íî ñëåä 1 ãîäèíà (èëè ïîâå÷å,
àêî ñå ïîâòîðè release öèêúëà íà 2.2) ùå ñè ãîâîðèì ïàê. ;")

Âñè÷êî íàé-õóáàâî,
Íèêîëà

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Re: lug-bg: Nvidia na knoppix

2003-02-19 Thread Georgi Chobadzhiyski

Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:

Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote:


Tsvetin Vasilev wrote:
 

Interesno dali niakoi chete kakvo otgovariat drugite. Prestanete s toia
handwaving, please.

http://www.mail-archive.com/lug-bg%40linux-bulgaria.org/msg15008.html



hmm towa koeto si napisal e prekrasno ... no
naprimer za vmware-3.2 syshto poradi neznajni prichini mu triabwa 
modversions.h
a i za drugi moduli mozhesh da bydesh siguren ...
ot n-ti proizwoditeli s koito iskam ili ne mi se nalaga da rabotia
  


Procheti otnovo kakvo sam napisal. Zashto ne triabva direktno da se
includva "modversions.h". Koito modul go pravi znachi e br0ken (tm)
i se nalaga da se oplakvash na tozi koito go razprostraniava.


W towa mozhe i da si praw, no po kakywto i nachin da se includwa... 
niama kak da se includne bez da go ima .. nali ?

http://kernelnewbies.org/faq/

Potarsi na tazi stranica "How do I compile a module".


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Re: lug-bg: debian stable/unstable/testing

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:00:30PM +0200 George Danchev wrote:
> Sid (demek unstable) ne e za vseki, no pyk dosta hora go polzvat
> otkroveno i to s ezhednevni updates i v production environment (ne se
> sramuvajte, priznajte si;-)

Eto, zastavam smelo i si priznavam :-)
Naistina vsyaka sutrin si puskam aptitude i update-vam de shto ima
iztegleno prez noshtta ot SID (Still In Development). Trybva da se
otbelezhi debelo, che problemite sa redki, no pak za smetka na tova
golemi ;-) Podobno obkrazhenie se preporachva samo za smeli dushi :-)
apt-proxy mnogo pomaga v takiva situacii, zashtoto darzhi i po-stari
versii na paketite pod raka... da ne govorim kolko spestyava pri masov
upgrade ili kato tegli Packages prez rsync :-)

A, osven tova stava vapros za stanciyata, na koyato rabotya, a ne za
mission-critical serveri... Tam ima samo i edinstveno stable.

> Da ne govorim 4e obi4ajna praktika e mixed systems
> (stable/testing/unstable + edna kamara unofficial deb's, local i
> t.n...  ludnica).

Neshto podobno ima po stanciite na "po-obiknovenite" potrebiteli
naokolo. Ponezhe ako neshto se skape tryabva az da go opravyam se
pridarzham kam po-konservativni instalacii. stable + X i drugi blagini
ot unstable. Raboti :-)

> Remember: printk("Dobrite mom4eta pravqt kakvoto mogat, loshite
> kakvoto si poiskat\n");

Tova bi tryabvalo da bade "Dobrite momcheta pravyat kakvoto tryabva,
loshite..."

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Vsustnost ne suobrazih, che ti ne instalirash ot RPM i init scriptovete 
sigurno gi njamash. Kakto i da e - idejata e, che se pravi store pri shutdown 
i restore pri bootup v suotvetni rc-ta.

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Re: lug-bg: Alsa Sound

Ìíîãî Ìåðñè ! ;-)

Íà ñð, 2003-02-19 â 12:35, Boris Jordanov çàïèñà:
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> On Wednesday 19 February 2003 12:24, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
> > Xe-xe, Çíà÷è ïðîáëåìà ñè âèñè.
> > Íî îñíîâíèÿò ìè âúïðîñ áåøå: ÊÀÊ ÄÀ ÑÈ ÇÀÏÀÇß ÑÒÎÉÍÎÑÒÈÒÅ ÍÀ MIXER-à?
> 
> For now we will assume that no extra options are required. The next step is to 
> ensure that the ALSA drivers are started during boot-up.
> 
> $ su
> # cd /etc/rc.d/init.d
> # /sbin/chkconfig --add alsasound
> 
> dotuk predpolagam e napraveno veche...
> 
> The next set of instructions will cause the ALSA volume/mixer/etc. state to be 
> saved when the machine is shut down properly. Note that the mixer settings 
> won't get restored the next time you boot unless you ran the shutdown script 
> or you've explicitly saved the state which you can do as root with:
> 
> # alsactl -f /etc/asound.state store
> 
> 
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Re: lug-bg: Alsa Sound

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On Wednesday 19 February 2003 12:24, Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
> Xe-xe, Значи проблема си виси.
> Но основният ми въпрос беше: КАК ДА СИ ЗАПАЗЯ 
>СТОЙНОСТИТЕ НА MIXER-а?

For now we will assume that no extra options are required. The next step is to 
ensure that the ALSA drivers are started during boot-up.

$ su
# cd /etc/rc.d/init.d
# /sbin/chkconfig --add alsasound

dotuk predpolagam e napraveno veche...

The next set of instructions will cause the ALSA volume/mixer/etc. state to be 
saved when the machine is shut down properly. Note that the mixer settings 
won't get restored the next time you boot unless you ran the shutdown script 
or you've explicitly saved the state which you can do as root with:

# alsactl -f /etc/asound.state store

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Re: lug-bg: Alsa Sound

Xe-xe, Çíà÷è ïðîáëåìà ñè âèñè.
Íî îñíîâíèÿò ìè âúïðîñ áåøå: ÊÀÊ ÄÀ ÑÈ ÇÀÏÀÇß ÑÒÎÉÍÎÑÒÈÒÅ ÍÀ MIXER-à?
> Èìà, èìà. Cisco IPPhone ïîääúðæà, íî å "ìíîãî free" :))
> Îáùî-âçåòî âñè÷êî, ïîëçâàùî G.729 å ïëàòåíî.
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Re: lug-bg: Alsa Sound

2003-02-19 Thread Kliment Ognianov





Ivaylo Toshev wrote:

  A êàæè ìè òîãàâà êîå å òîâà ïðèëîæåíèå ïîä LINUX êîåòî ïîëçâà G.729a ?
A è â ìîìåíòà ñ Êëèìåíò ñè ïèøåì è òîé òúðñè òî÷íî òîçè êîäåê G.729a ïîä
äúðâî è êàìúê - àìà òö ! Íÿìà ! È â ñêëàäà íÿìà è îò Ñüþçà íå ïðàùàò...
;-)
  

Èìà, èìà. Cisco IPPhone ïîääúðæà, íî å "ìíîãî free" :))
Îáùî-âçåòî âñè÷êî, ïîëçâàùî G.729 å ïëàòåíî.
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RE: lug-bg: Alsa Sound

A êàæè ìè òîãàâà êîå å òîâà ïðèëîæåíèå ïîä LINUX êîåòî ïîëçâà G.729a ?
A è â ìîìåíòà ñ Êëèìåíò ñè ïèøåì è òîé òúðñè òî÷íî òîçè êîäåê G.729a ïîä
äúðâî è êàìúê - àìà òö ! Íÿìà ! È â ñêëàäà íÿìà è îò Ñüþçà íå ïðàùàò...
;-)

Íà ñð, 2003-02-19 â 12:00, Boyan Krosnov çàïèñà:
> Sys G.729a bez header compression i bez VAD prez 64kbps full-duplex liniq spokojno 
>minavat 2 call-a
> ( ako predpolojim che polzvash 20ms (2x10ms) samples vyv vseki paket - 20 bytes
>   ip - 20; udp - 8; rtp - 12; 
>   primerno vyrhu frame-relay - 8 bytes (kato broish i dvata flaga, a trqbwa da se 
>broi samo ediniq
>   - <-- bakalskata cherta
>   68 bytes / 20 ms, koeto shte reche 3400 bytes/s -> 27200 bps
> )
> 
> Sys G.729a i rtp header compression i bez VAD
> vmesto da se predavat 40 bytes headeri se predavat na praktika 2 do 5 bytes
> (otnovo bakalskata smetka...)
> best case:
> 20+2+8= 30 bytes/20ms -> 1500 bytes/s -> 12000 bps
> worst case:
> 20+5+8= 33 bytes/20ms -> 1650 bytes/s -> 13200 bps
> S drugi dumi 4 do 5 call-a s codec G.729a vyrhi sinhronna serijna liniq na 64kbps 
>sys frame-relay i CRTP. Tova bez da se broi VAD-a.
> 
> sources:
> http://www.erlang.com/bandwidth.html
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/frame.htm
> 
>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00800b75cc.html#22195
>
> (i za tezi koito ne gi e strah ot RFC-ta) http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2508.txt
> 
> Ta tvyrdenieto che lipsata na svoboden G.723.1 codec ti prechi da vodish 1 normalen 
>razgovor na 64kbps liniq e meko kazano presileno. :)
> 
> BR,
> Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701
> http://boyan.ludost.net/
> just another techie speaking for himself
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ivaylo Toshev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:52 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: lug-bg: Alsa Sound
> 
> 
> À, çäðàâåéòå,
> Çíà÷è áà÷êàì ñè àç íà RH 8.0 è ìè ñå íàëîæè äà ïîëçâàì Gnomemeeting è âñè÷êè äðóãè 
>âúçìîæíè H.323 êëèåíòè çà VoIP. Âñè÷êî õóáàâî, áà÷êàò, êàòî ñå èçêëþ÷è ðàçáèðà ñå 
>ëèïñàòà íà ñâîáîäåí êîäåê G.723.1, êîåòî ïðå÷è ïîä LINUX äà ñå âîäè íîðìàëåí ðàçãîâîð 
>ïðè ëèíèÿ 64kbps.
>   Ïðîáëåìà, îáà÷å ìè áåøå ñ full-duplex ðåæèìà íà sound êàðòàòà. Çà òåçè êîèòî 
>ñå áîðÿò ñ ïîäîáåí ïðîáëåì, ùå êàæà, ÷å çà êàðòà: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 â RH 8.0 
>ñå ïîëçâàò ñòàíäàðòíèòå äðàéâåðè íà ÿäðîòî (êàêòî è çà âñè÷êè äðóãè çâóêîâè êàðòè ïîä 
>RH8.0). Ñ äâå äóìè ïðîáëåìà ñå ðåøè êàòî ñè êîìïèëèðàõ ALSA (ñàìî, ÷å òðÿáâà äà å 
>ïîñëåäíàòà áåòà âåðñèÿ!) è äóïëåêñà ñè òðúãíà êàòî ñëúíöå.
>   ÎÁÀ×Å: Ñòàíäàðòíàòà èíñòàëàöèÿ íà ALSA îò ñîðñ èìà ñâîéñòâîòî äà ïóñêà âñè÷êè 
>êàíàëè â MUTE ðåæèì ïðè çàðåæäàíå íà äðàéâåðèòå. Çà äà ãè "îòïóñíà" ïîëçâàì alsamixer 
>è âñè÷êî å OK. 
>   Å ! Èìà ëè íà÷èí äà çàïèøà ñòîéíîñòèòå íà ìèêñåðà íÿêúäå, çà äà íå ãî ïðàâÿ 
>ïðè âñåêè boot íà ìàïèíàòà ?
> 
> 
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RE: lug-bg: Alsa Sound

2003-02-19 Thread Boyan Krosnov

Sys G.729a bez header compression i bez VAD prez 64kbps full-duplex liniq spokojno 
minavat 2 call-a
( ako predpolojim che polzvash 20ms (2x10ms) samples vyv vseki paket - 20 bytes
  ip - 20; udp - 8; rtp - 12; 
  primerno vyrhu frame-relay - 8 bytes (kato broish i dvata flaga, a trqbwa da se broi 
samo ediniq
  - <-- bakalskata cherta
  68 bytes / 20 ms, koeto shte reche 3400 bytes/s -> 27200 bps
)

Sys G.729a i rtp header compression i bez VAD
vmesto da se predavat 40 bytes headeri se predavat na praktika 2 do 5 bytes
(otnovo bakalskata smetka...)
best case:
20+2+8= 30 bytes/20ms -> 1500 bytes/s -> 12000 bps
worst case:
20+5+8= 33 bytes/20ms -> 1650 bytes/s -> 13200 bps
S drugi dumi 4 do 5 call-a s codec G.729a vyrhi sinhronna serijna liniq na 64kbps sys 
frame-relay i CRTP. Tova bez da se broi VAD-a.

sources:
http://www.erlang.com/bandwidth.html
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/frame.htm
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00800b75cc.html#22195

(i za tezi koito ne gi e strah ot RFC-ta) http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2508.txt

Ta tvyrdenieto che lipsata na svoboden G.723.1 codec ti prechi da vodish 1 normalen 
razgovor na 64kbps liniq e meko kazano presileno. :)

BR,
Boyan Krosnov, CCIE#8701
http://boyan.ludost.net/
just another techie speaking for himself

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From: Ivaylo Toshev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 10:52 AM
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Subject: lug-bg: Alsa Sound


á, ÚÄÒÁ×ÅÊÔÅ,
úÎÁÞÉ ÂÁÞËÁÍ ÓÉ ÁÚ ÎÁ RH 8.0 É ÍÉ ÓÅ ÎÁÌÏÖÉ ÄÁ ÐÏÌÚ×ÁÍ Gnomemeeting É ×ÓÉÞËÉ ÄÒÕÇÉ 
×ßÚÍÏÖÎÉ H.323 ËÌÉÅÎÔÉ ÚÁ VoIP. ÷ÓÉÞËÏ ÈÕÂÁ×Ï, ÂÁÞËÁÔ, ËÁÔÏ ÓÅ ÉÚËÌÀÞÉ ÒÁÚÂÉÒÁ ÓÅ 
ÌÉÐÓÁÔÁ ÎÁ Ó×ÏÂÏÄÅÎ ËÏÄÅË G.723.1, ËÏÅÔÏ ÐÒÅÞÉ ÐÏÄ LINUX ÄÁ ÓÅ ×ÏÄÉ ÎÏÒÍÁÌÅÎ ÒÁÚÇÏ×ÏÒ 
ÐÒÉ ÌÉÎÉÑ 64kbps.
ðÒÏÂÌÅÍÁ, ÏÂÁÞÅ ÍÉ ÂÅÛÅ Ó full-duplex ÒÅÖÉÍÁ ÎÁ sound ËÁÒÔÁÔÁ. úÁ ÔÅÚÉ ËÏÉÔÏ 
ÓÅ ÂÏÒÑÔ Ó ÐÏÄÏÂÅÎ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍ, ÝÅ ËÁÖÁ, ÞÅ ÚÁ ËÁÒÔÁ: Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24 × RH 8.0 
ÓÅ ÐÏÌÚ×ÁÔ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÎÉÔÅ ÄÒÁÊ×ÅÒÉ ÎÁ ÑÄÒÏÔÏ (ËÁËÔÏ É ÚÁ ×ÓÉÞËÉ ÄÒÕÇÉ Ú×ÕËÏ×É ËÁÒÔÉ ÐÏÄ 
RH8.0). ó Ä×Å ÄÕÍÉ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÁ ÓÅ ÒÅÛÉ ËÁÔÏ ÓÉ ËÏÍÐÉÌÉÒÁÈ ALSA (ÓÁÍÏ, ÞÅ ÔÒÑÂ×Á ÄÁ Å 
ÐÏÓÌÅÄÎÁÔÁ ÂÅÔÁ ×ÅÒÓÉÑ!) É ÄÕÐÌÅËÓÁ ÓÉ ÔÒßÇÎÁ ËÁÔÏ ÓÌßÎÃÅ.
ïâáþå: óÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÎÁÔÁ ÉÎÓÔÁÌÁÃÉÑ ÎÁ ALSA ÏÔ ÓÏÒÓ ÉÍÁ Ó×ÏÊÓÔ×ÏÔÏ ÄÁ ÐÕÓËÁ ×ÓÉÞËÉ 
ËÁÎÁÌÉ × MUTE ÒÅÖÉÍ ÐÒÉ ÚÁÒÅÖÄÁÎÅ ÎÁ ÄÒÁÊ×ÅÒÉÔÅ. úÁ ÄÁ ÇÉ "ÏÔÐÕÓÎÁ" ÐÏÌÚ×ÁÍ alsamixer 
É ×ÓÉÞËÏ Å OK. 
å ! éÍÁ ÌÉ ÎÁÞÉÎ ÄÁ ÚÁÐÉÛÁ ÓÔÏÊÎÏÓÔÉÔÅ ÎÁ ÍÉËÓÅÒÁ ÎÑËßÄÅ, ÚÁ ÄÁ ÎÅ ÇÏ ÐÒÁ×Ñ 
ÐÒÉ ×ÓÅËÉ boot ÎÁ ÍÁÐÉÎÁÔÁ ?



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Re: lug-bg: debian stable/unstable/testing

On 19 02 2003 10:04, Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:
> Zdraveite...
> Spored
> http://linux-bg.org/cgi-bin/y/index.pl?page=article&id=devs&key=348385951
>
> /etc/apt/sources.list tribva da izglejda taka..
> 
> Ïúðâî òðÿáâà äà ñå óâåðèì, ÷å âúâ ôàéëà, â êîéòî ñå îïèñâàò èçòî÷íèöèòå íà
> äåáèàíñêèÿ ñîôòóåð, ñìå âúâåëè è ïúòÿ êúì ñîðñîâåòå. Áè òðÿáâàëî â
> /etc/apt/sources.list äà âèæäàìå íåùî òàêîâà:
>
> deb ftp://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb ftp://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
> deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
> deb-src ftp://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb-src ftp://ftp.bg.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
>
> 
>
> spored "debian reference" ne tribva da se polzva "unstable"  a nai-mnogo
> "testing". Chhiii ukazania da sledvam ?:)
> I kakva e razumnata strategia za edin debian server: hem da ne se krashva,
> hem php-to da ne moite godini :)

ami preceni sam brq... mozhesh da polzvash kakvoto si poiskash... na Testing 
naprimer mozhesh da poiskash da apt-get install edikvosi/unstable (samo to + 
dependencies ste byde preto4eno ot tam, dokato si hapvash morena+coffe) ... 
Sid (demek unstable) ne e za vseki, no pyk dosta hora go polzvat otkroveno i 
to s ezhednevni updates i v production environment (ne se sramuvajte, 
priznajte si;-) Da ne govorim 4e obi4ajna praktika e mixed systems 
(stable/testing/unstable + edna kamara unofficial deb's, local i t.n... 
ludnica). Remember:
printk("Dobrite mom4eta pravqt kakvoto mogat, loshite kakvoto si poiskat\n");

-- 
printk("Greets, fr33zb1\n");

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Re: lug-bg: debian stable/unstable/testing

On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 10:04:35AM +0200 Peter An. Zyumbilev wrote:
> spored "debian reference" ne tribva da se polzva "unstable"  a
> nai-mnogo "testing".  Chhiii ukazania da sledvam ?:) I kakva e
> razumnata strategia za edin debian server: hem da ne se krashva, hem
> php-to da ne moite godini :)

Eto kakvo pravya az po vaprosa:
- v sources.list ima kakvoto ti dusha poiska
- v apt.conf ima red `APT::Default-Release "stable";'

normalno se instalira stable. ako ti potryabva php ot unstable ili
testing go instalirash s `apt-get install php -t '.
Po tozi nachin samo php-to i paketite, ot koito to zavisi shte se
izteglyat ot testing, a ostanalata chast ot sistemata ostava na stable.

Imay predvid, che security.debian.org se poddarcha samo za stable. v
unstable obiknoveno se upload-vat fix-nati paketi, no sas zakasnenie.
Testing e kofti zvyar, no i tam update-vat ot vreme na vreme.

Estestveno, drugiya nachin e da si kompilirash php ot source, ama ako
tragnesh natam za kakvo ti e apt-get? Osven ako estestveno ne go
napravish po debioanski - pravish si .deb i go instalirash "rachno" s
dpkg -i.

hth,
dam

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Re: lug-bg: Alsa Sound

Å! Àç ÷åðíî íà áÿëî ñúì íàïèñàë, ÷å ïðîáëåìè ñúñ Full-duplexa ÍßÌÀÌ,
èìàì ïðîáëåì ñúñ çàïèñà íà íèâàòà íà ìèêñåðà.

Íà ñð, 2003-02-19 â 11:04, Kliment Ognianov çàïèñà:
> Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
> > À, çäðàâåéòå,
> > Çíà÷è áà÷êàì ñè àç íà RH 8.0 è ìè ñå íàëîæè äà ïîëçâàì Gnomemeeting è
> > âñè÷êè äðóãè âúçìîæíè H.323 êëèåíòè çà VoIP.
> > Âñè÷êî õóáàâî, áà÷êàò, êàòî ñå èçêëþ÷è ðàçáèðà ñå ëèïñàòà íà ñâîáîäåí
> > êîäåê G.723.1, êîåòî ïðå÷è ïîä LINUX äà ñå âîäè íîðìàëåí ðàçãîâîð ïðè
> > ëèíèÿ 64kbps.
> > Ïðîáëåìà, îáà÷å ìè áåøå ñ full-duplex ðåæèìà íà sound êàðòàòà. Çà òåçè
> > êîèòî ñå áîðÿò ñ ïîäîáåí ïðîáëåì, ùå êàæà, ÷å çà êàðòà: Cirrus Logic CS
> > 4614/22/24 â RH 8.0 ñå ïîëçâàò ñòàíäàðòíèòå äðàéâåðè íà ÿäðîòî (êàêòî è
> > çà âñè÷êè äðóãè çâóêîâè êàðòè ïîä RH8.0).
> > Ñ äâå äóìè ïðîáëåìà ñå ðåøè êàòî ñè êîìïèëèðàõ ALSA (ñàìî, ÷å òðÿáâà äà
> > å ïîñëåäíàòà áåòà âåðñèÿ!) è äóïëåêñà ñè òðúãíà êàòî ñëúíöå.
> > ÎÁÀ×Å: Ñòàíäàðòíàòà èíñòàëàöèÿ íà ALSA îò ñîðñ èìà ñâîéñòâîòî äà ïóñêà
> > âñè÷êè êàíàëè â MUTE ðåæèì ïðè çàðåæäàíå íà äðàéâåðèòå. Çà äà ãè
> > "îòïóñíà" ïîëçâàì alsamixer è âñè÷êî å OK. 
> > Å ! Èìà ëè íà÷èí äà çàïèøà ñòîéíîñòèòå íà ìèêñåðà íÿêúäå, çà äà íå ãî
> > ïðàâÿ ïðè âñåêè boot íà ìàïèíàòà ?
> >   
> Ñàìî êàòî äîáàâêà, áåç äà ñå çàÿæäàì èëè äà äàâàì ãåíåðàëíè èçâîäè ...
> çàáðàâè çà full-duplex íà âñè÷êî äðóãî
> îñâåí >=CreativeLive! èëè [êîëêîòî è äà å ÷óäíî!!!] ñòàðèòå êàðòè íà
> Yamaha, è ïî-ñïåöèàëíî òåçè ñ øàðåíèòå plug sockets.
> Òîâà ãî êàçâàì îò îïèò ...
> 
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Re: lug-bg: Alsa Sound

2003-02-19 Thread Kliment Ognianov

Ivaylo Toshev wrote:

À, çäðàâåéòå,
Çíà÷è áà÷êàì ñè àç íà RH 8.0 è ìè ñå íàëîæè äà ïîëçâàì Gnomemeeting è
âñè÷êè äðóãè âúçìîæíè H.323 êëèåíòè çà VoIP.
Âñè÷êî õóáàâî, áà÷êàò, êàòî ñå èçêëþ÷è ðàçáèðà ñå ëèïñàòà íà ñâîáîäåí
êîäåê G.723.1, êîåòî ïðå÷è ïîä LINUX äà ñå âîäè íîðìàëåí ðàçãîâîð ïðè
ëèíèÿ 64kbps.
Ïðîáëåìà, îáà÷å ìè áåøå ñ full-duplex ðåæèìà íà sound êàðòàòà. Çà òåçè
êîèòî ñå áîðÿò ñ ïîäîáåí ïðîáëåì, ùå êàæà, ÷å çà êàðòà: Cirrus Logic CS
4614/22/24 â RH 8.0 ñå ïîëçâàò ñòàíäàðòíèòå äðàéâåðè íà ÿäðîòî (êàêòî è
çà âñè÷êè äðóãè çâóêîâè êàðòè ïîä RH8.0).
Ñ äâå äóìè ïðîáëåìà ñå ðåøè êàòî ñè êîìïèëèðàõ ALSA (ñàìî, ÷å òðÿáâà äà
å ïîñëåäíàòà áåòà âåðñèÿ!) è äóïëåêñà ñè òðúãíà êàòî ñëúíöå.
ÎÁÀ×Å: Ñòàíäàðòíàòà èíñòàëàöèÿ íà ALSA îò ñîðñ èìà ñâîéñòâîòî äà ïóñêà
âñè÷êè êàíàëè â MUTE ðåæèì ïðè çàðåæäàíå íà äðàéâåðèòå. Çà äà ãè
"îòïóñíà" ïîëçâàì alsamixer è âñè÷êî å OK.
Å ! Èìà ëè íà÷èí äà çàïèøà ñòîéíîñòèòå íà ìèêñåðà íÿêúäå, çà äà íå ãî
ïðàâÿ ïðè âñåêè boot íà ìàïèíàòà ?

Ñàìî êàòî äîáàâêà, áåç äà ñå çàÿæäàì èëè äà äàâàì ãåíåðàëíè èçâîäè ... çàáðàâè
çà full-duplex íà âñè÷êî äðóãî
îñâåí >=CreativeLive! èëè [êîëêîòî è äà å ÷óäíî!!!] ñòàðèòå êàðòè íà Yamaha,
è ïî-ñïåöèàëíî òåçè ñ øàðåíèòå plug sockets.
Òîâà ãî êàçâàì îò îïèò ...

Ïîçäðàâè è óñïåõè
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lug-bg: Alsa Sound

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Re: lug-bg: pppd + dial on demand + active-filter

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On Tuesday 18 February 2003 21:32, gecata wrote:
> Potyrsi iz neta doc za diald. Az sym go polzval edno vreme,
> no mai imashe problemi sys novite versii na gcc-to. Ako go
> compilirash na po-star linux raboti.

Az otgovorih na drug tvoj posting v inerciata prosto zastoto imah shodna ideja 
za drug problem :)) Ste potursja diald, 10x

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Re: lug-bg: VPN(pptp) shaping

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On Wednesday 19 February 2003 10:45, Boris Jordanov wrote:
> On Tuesday 18 February 2003 21:25, gecata wrote:
> > Man pppd. Cheti za ip-up.local. Raboti. Testvano e. Ako iskash
> > shte ti pratia moite scriptove.
>
> Mda, i az stignah do idejata da burnikam ip-up.local i ip-down.local. V
> purvia s iptables razreshavam vsjakakuv trafik _sled_ vdigane na
> interfeisa, vuv vtoria pri padane na interfeisa razreshavam samo TCP kum
> nego. Tova li e idejata? BTW, ako imash gotovi scriptove - prastaj, ne
> iskam da preotkrivam toplata voda :)

Tova ne e za tozi thread, sorry, ste go prepratja s pravilen subject.

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Re: lug-bg: pppd + dial on demand + active-filter

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Mda, stignah do idejata da burnikam ip-up.local i ip-down.local. V purvia
s iptables razreshavam vsjakakuv trafik _sled_ vdigane na interfeisa, vuv
vtoria pri padane na interfeisa razreshavam samo TCP kum nego. Tova vuzmozno 
li e?

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Re: lug-bg: VPN(pptp) shaping