Re: lug-bg: Linux license

2003-06-16 Thread Vasil Petrov
Iassen e prav. Nai-dobre e da vidish licenzite pod koito e pusnata vsqka distribuciq i 
po-tochno softuera, koito te interesuva. Dobre e da se zapoznaesh s GPL i LGPL na 
angliiski, poneje prevodite im nqmat nikakava uridicheska stoinost a slujat edinstveno 
kato pomagalo. Tova mai go pisheshe na gnu.org v sekciq Translations.

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From: Konstantin Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:08:55 +0300
Subject: lug-bg: Linux license

>
>Vsiako disto na Linux li moje da se izpolzva za komersialni celi bez da se 
>zaplashta licenz ?
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Re: lug-bg: scite and cyrilic ?

2003-06-16 Thread raptor
]- kato kopiram text ot open office pak izliza na maimunqci... any idea why?
Ako go prehwyrlq w gedit i posle w scite, izliza na kodowe ?!



|Za sajalenie, gotovia SciTE ot scintilla.org e kompiliran za ruskata 
|kodirovka KOI8-R.
|
|Tuk ima kratko obiasnenie i edin fail za CP1251, ako mojete sam da si 
|kompilirate programata:
|http://mailman.lyra.org/pipermail/scite-interest/2002-May/000668.html
|
|Tova e chast konfiguracionnia fail 
|"/usr/share/scite/SciTEGlobal.properties", niama nujda da se zadava 
|shrift, samo kodirovkata.
|
|Dano da pomogne.
|Petko
|
|
|# Internationalisation
|# Japanese input code page 932 and ShiftJIS character set 128
|#code.page=932
|#character.set=128
|# Unicode
|#code.page=65001
|code.page=1251
|character.set=204
|#character.set=204
|# Required for Unicode to work on GTK+:
|#LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8
|
|
|raptor wrote:
|> zdraweite,
|> 
|> nakoi da polzwa Scite (text-redaktor)... ne moga da namerq shrift na
|koito da se wivda kirilica ?
|> Any ideas... Scite e GTK prilovenie, ako towa move da izqsni nesto..
|> 
|> http://www.scintilla.org
|> 
|> 
|
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lug-bg: Otmesten mouse pointer

2003-06-16 Thread Rumen Milushev
Zdraweite , Grupa
Problemyt se poiawiawa pri rabota s KDE na debian woody , na laptop Toshiba 
.Ta: strelkata na mishkata e otmestena na diasno ot oblastta , kiato 
fakticheski pokazwa . Taka , kogato usera iska da zatwori prozoreca , toi 
wmesto towa go minimizira . Smeniah widowe mishki i protokoli w 
XF86Config-4 , no bez rezultat . Pomognete mi s url ili docs , a oshte 
po-dobre - s opit .
Blagodaria za wnimanieto


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Re: lug-bg: X doesn't restore textmode

2003-06-16 Thread George Danchev
On 16 06 2003 17:19, Viktor Vasilev wrote:
> privet,
>
> George Danchev wrote:
> > On 16 06 2003 15:01, Milen Nikolov wrote:
> >>imam Matrox G400 i pusnah Xfree 4.3.0
> >>pri prewkliuchwane ot grafichen kym textow rejim ili pri izlizane ot X-a
> >>ekrana ostawa chreren i nishto ne e w systoqnie da go oprawi.
> >>Uspqh da namerq informaciq da izpolzwam SVGA bibliotekata i
> >>restoretxtmode, no towa mi se wijda ne osobeno elegantno reshenie.
> >>oshte poweche, che to shte dejstwa samo pri izlizane ot X-a, no ne i pri
> >>prewkliuchwane X - textmode.
> >>
> >>Ako nqkoy e sreshtal podoben problem, neka dade nqkakwi iztochnici .
> >
> > polzvash li svgatextmode i s kvi nastrojki stoto maj ot Matrox se
> > poddyrzhat samo Millenium i Mistique, taka 4e za G400 maj e po-dobre da
> > ne go polzvash?
> >
> > ste ni pokazhesh li config files za svgalib:
> > /etc/vga/libvga.config ili $HOME/.svgalibrc ?
> >
> > direct rendering imash li, vizh outut-a ot "glxinfo"
>
> izpolzvam Matrox G450 bez nikakvi problemi, kato sym probval i driverite
> koite firmata predostavq, i tezi, koito idvat s XFree86 4.3.0. podoben
> problem sys prevkluchvaneto sym imal predi mnogo vreme, moje bi
> slackware 3.6, ne znaq s kakyv XFree86 e bil, i se spasqvah tochno sys
> restore textmode. po-kysno zapochnah da polzvam framebuffer i problemyt
> izchezna. Milen, mojesh li da kajesh dali setvash consolata si v nqkakyv
> ekzotichen rejim (svga tools ili framebuffer) ili q dyrjish 80x24?

e ste se setish 4e nqmah predvid tova "restore textmode" ... predpolozhih 4e 
moderi text console s "svgatextmode" (ne mozhe da ne si q 4uval), koeto e 
izlishno otdavna...  replaced e i naj-mnogo da omazhe text mode-to ... Drug 
problem mozhe da e losho installed drivers za kartata. V slu4aq nqkoe SVGALib 
application maj ne omazva text mode-to ... stoto pri stara version, ne pomnq 
koq na tazi lib i tova stavashe 

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Re: lug-bg: X doesn't restore textmode

2003-06-16 Thread Milen Nikolov
Ami konsolata si e 80x24, no dowechera shte widq kak se dyrji s
framebuffer console. Iskam da razbera zashto se poqwqwa tozi problem.
i ako moga da izbegna izpolzwaneto na restore textmode.


Viktor Vasilev wrote:

izpolzvam Matrox G450 bez nikakvi problemi, kato sym probval i driverite 
koite firmata predostavq, i tezi, koito idvat s XFree86 4.3.0. podoben 
problem sys prevkluchvaneto sym imal predi mnogo vreme, moje bi 
slackware 3.6, ne znaq s kakyv XFree86 e bil, i se spasqvah tochno sys 
restore textmode. po-kysno zapochnah da polzvam framebuffer i problemyt 
izchezna. Milen, mojesh li da kajesh dali setvash consolata si v nqkakyv 
ekzotichen rejim (svga tools ili framebuffer) ili q dyrjish 80x24?

 

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Re: lug-bg: X doesn't restore textmode

2003-06-16 Thread Viktor Vasilev
privet,

George Danchev wrote:
On 16 06 2003 15:01, Milen Nikolov wrote:

imam Matrox G400 i pusnah Xfree 4.3.0
pri prewkliuchwane ot grafichen kym textow rejim ili pri izlizane ot X-a
ekrana ostawa chreren i nishto ne e w systoqnie da go oprawi.
Uspqh da namerq informaciq da izpolzwam SVGA bibliotekata i
restoretxtmode, no towa mi se wijda ne osobeno elegantno reshenie.
oshte poweche, che to shte dejstwa samo pri izlizane ot X-a, no ne i pri
prewkliuchwane X - textmode.
Ako nqkoy e sreshtal podoben problem, neka dade nqkakwi iztochnici .


polzvash li svgatextmode i s kvi nastrojki stoto maj ot Matrox se poddyrzhat 
samo Millenium i Mistique, taka 4e za G400 maj e po-dobre da ne go polzvash?  

ste ni pokazhesh li config files za svgalib:
/etc/vga/libvga.config ili $HOME/.svgalibrc ?
direct rendering imash li, vizh outut-a ot "glxinfo"

izpolzvam Matrox G450 bez nikakvi problemi, kato sym probval i driverite 
koite firmata predostavq, i tezi, koito idvat s XFree86 4.3.0. podoben 
problem sys prevkluchvaneto sym imal predi mnogo vreme, moje bi 
slackware 3.6, ne znaq s kakyv XFree86 e bil, i se spasqvah tochno sys 
restore textmode. po-kysno zapochnah da polzvam framebuffer i problemyt 
izchezna. Milen, mojesh li da kajesh dali setvash consolata si v nqkakyv 
ekzotichen rejim (svga tools ili framebuffer) ili q dyrjish 80x24?


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Re: lug-bg: Linux license

2003-06-16 Thread Iassen Pramatarov
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:08:55 +0300 Konstantin Ivanov wrote:
>Vsiako disto na Linux li moje da se izpolzva za komersialni celi bez da
>se zaplashta licenz ?

 Не, не всяко. Linux е ядрото на операционната система, лицензирано е под
GNU GPL, което означава, че може да се използва, стига да се спазват
изискванията на лиценза. Тоест това също е лицензиран софтуер, но, както
казваш "не се _заплаща_ лиценз.
 От друга страна, едно "дистро" може да съдържа много неща и не е казано,
че всички са под свободен лиценз, макар и това да е the common practice.
;) Не мога да дам примери, но мисля, че SuSE имат ограничения в начина на
разпространение на актуалната си версия, следоватлно могат да ограничават
начина за достъп до изходния код. Също така (може да бъркам) част от
SuSE-специфичните програми май не са свободен софтуер и могат да имат
свои си ограничения за комерсиална употреба.

 С две думи - много ти е общ въпросът. Тоест, ако трябва да отговорим
стриктно, то "Не, не всяко дистро на Линукс може да се използва за
комерсиални цели" - това при условие, че мислим "Линукс" като повече от
ядрото Линукс, именно най-често - операционна система GNU/Linux.

 За уточнения уточни питането ;) Ако питаш кое дистро може със сигурнотс
да се ползва изцяло безпроблемно за комерсиални цели, виж Дебиан,
debian.org.

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Re: lug-bg: Linux license

2003-06-16 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
Da , ako imash v predvid tezi koito sa izcialo pod GPL.
tova sa vsichki RedHat, Mandrake, Debian, Slack etc. koito sa za
svobodno svaliane ot suotvetnite saitove , mirrori i t.n.

На ?, 2003-06-16 в 16:40, Nickola Kolev записа:
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:08:55 +0300
> Konstantin Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  : Vsiako disto na Linux li moje da se izpolzva za komersialni celi bez da se 
>  : zaplashta licenz ?
> 
> Можеш да погледнеш GNU GPL в превод на български.
> 
> http://linux.gyuvet.ch/html/docs/gnu_bg.html
> 


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Re: lug-bg: Linux license

2003-06-16 Thread Nickola Kolev
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 16:08:55 +0300
Konstantin Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 : Vsiako disto na Linux li moje da se izpolzva za komersialni celi bez da se 
 : zaplashta licenz ?

Можеш да погледнеш GNU GPL в превод на български.

http://linux.gyuvet.ch/html/docs/gnu_bg.html


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lug-bg: Linux license

2003-06-16 Thread Konstantin Ivanov
Vsiako disto na Linux li moje da se izpolzva za komersialni celi bez da se 
zaplashta licenz ?

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Re: lug-bg: X doesn't restore textmode

2003-06-16 Thread George Danchev
On 16 06 2003 15:01, Milen Nikolov wrote:
> imam Matrox G400 i pusnah Xfree 4.3.0
> pri prewkliuchwane ot grafichen kym textow rejim ili pri izlizane ot X-a
> ekrana ostawa chreren i nishto ne e w systoqnie da go oprawi.
> Uspqh da namerq informaciq da izpolzwam SVGA bibliotekata i
> restoretxtmode, no towa mi se wijda ne osobeno elegantno reshenie.
> oshte poweche, che to shte dejstwa samo pri izlizane ot X-a, no ne i pri
> prewkliuchwane X - textmode.
>
> Ako nqkoy e sreshtal podoben problem, neka dade nqkakwi iztochnici .

polzvash li svgatextmode i s kvi nastrojki stoto maj ot Matrox se poddyrzhat 
samo Millenium i Mistique, taka 4e za G400 maj e po-dobre da ne go polzvash?  

ste ni pokazhesh li config files za svgalib:
/etc/vga/libvga.config ili $HOME/.svgalibrc ?

direct rendering imash li, vizh outut-a ot "glxinfo"

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lug-bg: X doesn't restore textmode

2003-06-16 Thread Milen Nikolov
imam Matrox G400 i pusnah Xfree 4.3.0
pri prewkliuchwane ot grafichen kym textow rejim ili pri izlizane ot X-a
ekrana ostawa chreren i nishto ne e w systoqnie da go oprawi.
Uspqh da namerq informaciq da izpolzwam SVGA bibliotekata i 
restoretxtmode, no towa mi se wijda ne osobeno elegantno reshenie.
oshte poweche, che to shte dejstwa samo pri izlizane ot X-a, no ne i pri
prewkliuchwane X - textmode.

Ako nqkoy e sreshtal podoben problem, neka dade nqkakwi iztochnici .

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Re: lug-bg: kernel 2.4.21 + RH 9 ?

2003-06-16 Thread George Danchev
On 16 06 2003 11:08, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote:
> George Ivanov wrote:
> > Nqkoj imal li e vereme da probva dali RH 9 shre varvi s tova qdro ?
> > Opitval sum s drugi qdra no ne mi trugvat prilojeniqta . Kazva :
> > "Your kernel is too old to support treads " ili neshto ot sorta,  kogato
> > se opitam da startiram primerno KDE.
>
> RedHat vav svoia infinite wisdom, polzvat backport ot 2.5 na NPTL i
> FUTEX-es. Koeto za vsichki potrebiteli na RedHat 9+ shte reche che poveche
> niama da mogat da izpolzvat vanilla 2.4 kernelite ot kernel.org Koeto e
> oshte po veseloto, zaradi tazi umnotia v 2.5 veche ima sys_futex_old,
> nishto che niama releasnat oficialen kernel s sys_futexabe veselba.
> Hubavo e da se vkarvat features, ama RedHat malko prekaliavat poniakoga.

Vsystnost, ne mozhem da vinim RH za tova, to si e developemnt i napulno v 
sinhron s GPL. Imat klienti i prosto si gledat biznesa kato im zadovolqvat 
zhelaniqta. Ne mogat da 4akat vanilla 2.6 pyk i ne narushavat GPL pod nikakva 
forma. Qsno e 4e NPTL support v kernel i glibc + fast user space mutexes 
davat performance boost za posix threaded apps koito znaqt kak da se 
vyzpolzvat ot tova. Ima ne malko apps, za koito se tvyrdi 4e sa posix thread 
compliant, no vsystnost ne sa ... Imenno na RH ste izpluvat tezi problemi s 
tezi apps i ste se report-vat za fixes. 
Primer ot tezhkiq klas e Oracle, prosto iskat kernel s edi kvi si 
special scalable features... e stom gi nqma v vanilla, vse ste se nameri 
nqkoj comm. vendor da gi implement i release dokato vlqzat v vanilla. Ne e 
slu4aen i fakta 4e Oracle revat na visok glas 4e stavat Linux company ... 
prosto polu4avat platforma s perspectives... ne mogat da 4akat...

maj e doshlo vreme Linux kernel developent/monitoring/maintanance da mine pod 
egidata na nqkyf linux kernel technical commettee v koito da u4astvat 
peer-2-peer vsi4ki zainteresovani commercial vendors + nezavisimi volunteer 
organizations/persons, kakto GCC mina predi vreme pod nabludenieto na podoben 
commettee ili kakto e x.org - various members. Prosto slozhnostta na kernela 
narastva neimoverno mnogo i s fast pace. Dosholo e vreme Linux da poeme i 
naistina critical tasks... mne mne internet or desktop services, a za takiva 
prilozheniq naprimer: 
* http://www.eurocontrol.int/sass/unix/UNIX_answersTOC.doc.html, 
ponezhe mnogo skoro old nice commercial unix kernels ste izostanat dosta v 
technologi4no otnoshenie vkl. i na sobstvenite si hardware architectures ... i 
nikoj ne moa da gi 4aka ... Ostava da po4nat da se pishat i special
comm. user space apps za linux za podobni critical tasks. Vyobste modela 
stava mnogo mnogo slozhen... nqkyf mix mezhdu bazaar i cathedraal ... kato 
cathedrals (HP, Intel, IBM, SGI, others) u4astvat vse po-bazaarno ... 

* nisto 4udno skoro vreme na site-a na eurocontrol da se poqvqt i docs za 
linux usage ... mdam ... 
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Re: lug-bg: OpenGL and ATI Rage Mobility

2003-06-16 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
Ами трябва да си компилираш drm-kernel модула за да ти тръгне OpenGL -a.

На ?, 2003-06-16 в 14:06, Vladimir Gerdjikov записа:
> Ivaylo Toshev wrote:
> 
> > Genia ne e bulgarski ;-))
> > http://gatos.sourceforge.net
> >
> > Aide sus zdrave.
> >
> > На ?, 2003-06-13 в 13:10, Vladimir Gerdjikov записа:
> >
> >>/Привет,
> >>някой пускал ли е с успех OpenGL за ATI Rage Mobility?
> >>От самият сайт на ATI излиза, че това е невъзможно, но аз трърдо вярвам 
> >>в българският гений :)/
> >>
> 10x, сайта го знам, просто винаги съм го използвал за TV тунера ми :)
> Иначе не върви само OpenGL-то - при Xfree86 нямам никакви проблеми.


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Re: lug-bg: OpenGL and ATI Rage Mobility

2003-06-16 Thread Vladimir Gerdjikov
Ivaylo Toshev wrote:

Genia ne e bulgarski ;-))
http://gatos.sourceforge.net
Aide sus zdrave.

На ?, 2003-06-13 в 13:10, Vladimir Gerdjikov записа:

/Привет,
някой пускал ли е с успех OpenGL за ATI Rage Mobility?
От самият сайт на ATI излиза, че това е невъзможно, но аз трърдо вярвам 
в българският гений :)/

10x, сайта го знам, просто винаги съм го използвал за TV тунера ми :)
Иначе не върви само OpenGL-то - при Xfree86 нямам никакви проблеми.
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Re: lug-bg: Samba: Kak da vidia ot Win folderi na Lin machina?

2003-06-16 Thread Vesko Nedev
On Monday 16 June 2003 13:06, Valentin Manev wrote:
> Ami ne znam kak stava slednoto:
>
> ednata machina e s Knoppix 3.2 a drugata e Win98. Sambata raboti dobre no
> ne moga da vidia folderite na linux machinata. ot linux machnata vizhdam
> share-nati folderi na Win98 i moga da pisha i chet v tiah. Kato click-na v
> Net. Neighborhood v Win98 vizhdam linux mashinata no ne moga da vidia v
> neia nishto share-nato, vypreki che ima takova.
>
> Help!


Най-лесно е
в smb.conf
hosts allow = 192.168.0. 127. EXCEPT 192.168.0.xxx - ip адреси от твоята мрежа
security = share
това естествено ако се доверяваш на всеки, които сяда на тези машини.
Най-веро`тно при теб security e user и не си настроил самба потребителите
виж 
$man smb.conf има един ред "NOTE ABOUT USERNAME/PASSWORD VALIDATION" - там е 
обяснено как
Успех
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Re: lug-bg: named server ?

2003-06-16 Thread Doncho N. Gunchev
| On Monday 16 June 2003 13:08, deb wrote:
| Molia vi pomognete.
| Imam slednia problem s name servera. Na opredeleno wreme zapochwa da
| izpashta UDP paketi do dryg name server. Izpashta UDP 42 no ot wreme na
| wreme puska neshto ot roda: udp 4096 (frag 52018:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). Loshoto e che
| wse edno floidwam drygia host a i si zabawiam i-neta.
ami dai pone named.conf i kaji versiq/distributziq...
mojesh da mahnesh tochnite IP-ta ako te pritesnqwat ;)))
mojesh da slojish w named.conf
options {
directory "/var/named";
forwarders {

};
query-source address * port 53; // Ei tova !!
// version "Go away!";  // If you are so PARANOID... ;)
};
za da ti prashta query-ta samo ot 53-ti port.
normalno e da e prez UDP, toi 1-wo probwa UDP, posle TCP ako ne stane.

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lug-bg: named server ?

2003-06-16 Thread deb



Molia vi pomognete.Imam slednia problem s name servera. Na 
opredeleno wreme zapochwa da izpashta UDP paketi do dryg name server. Izpashta 
UDP 42 no ot wreme na wreme puska neshto ot roda: udp 4096 (frag 
52018:[EMAIL PROTECTED]).Loshoto e che wse edno floidwam drygia host a i si zabawiam 
i-neta.
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lug-bg: Samba: Kak da vidia ot Win folderi na Lin machina?

2003-06-16 Thread Valentin Manev
Ami ne znam kak stava slednoto:

ednata machina e s Knoppix 3.2 a drugata e Win98. Sambata raboti dobre no ne 
moga da vidia folderite na linux machinata. ot linux machnata vizhdam 
share-nati folderi na Win98 i moga da pisha i chet v tiah. Kato click-na v 
Net. Neighborhood v Win98 vizhdam linux mashinata no ne moga da vidia v neia 
nishto share-nato, vypreki che ima takova.

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Re: lug-bg: kernel 2.4.21 + RH 9 ?

2003-06-16 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
George Ivanov wrote:
Nqkoj imal li e vereme da probva dali RH 9 shre varvi s tova qdro ?
Opitval sum s drugi qdra no ne mi trugvat prilojeniqta . Kazva :
"Your kernel is too old to support treads " ili neshto ot sorta,  kogato se 
opitam da startiram primerno KDE.
RedHat vav svoia infinite wisdom, polzvat backport ot 2.5 na NPTL i FUTEX-es.
Koeto za vsichki potrebiteli na RedHat 9+ shte reche che poveche niama da mogat
da izpolzvat vanilla 2.4 kernelite ot kernel.org Koeto e oshte po veseloto,
zaradi tazi umnotia v 2.5 veche ima sys_futex_old, nishto che niama releasnat
oficialen kernel s sys_futexabe veselba. Hubavo e da se vkarvat features,
ama RedHat malko prekaliavat poniakoga.
--
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Re: lug-bg: OFFTOPIC: books.bgone.net

2003-06-16 Thread Teodor Georgiev
On Monday 16 June 2003 09:53, Iassen Pramatarov wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:03:43 +0300 Борис Йорданов wrote:
> 
>
> >Някой може ли да ми каже какво е станало с books.bgone.net?
>
> 
>  Админ на bgone беше Любен Каравелов; много жалко, ако след като преди
> време се махна оттам, новият му е забърсал наистина books.bgone.net -
> това си беше готин сайт, а и май нямаше нелегални неща ;)
> 
>  Ако пичът чете тук, да го пусне пак - к'во му пречи ;)

ami kvo mu prechi... to zatova v ada pri bylgarskia kazan diavoli s osteni 
niama :)))


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Re: lug-bg: OFFTOPIC: books.bgone.net

2003-06-16 Thread Iassen Pramatarov
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:03:43 +0300 Борис Йорданов wrote:

>Някой може ли да ми каже какво е станало с books.bgone.net?

 Админ на bgone беше Любен Каравелов; много жалко, ако след като преди
време се махна оттам, новият му е забърсал наистина books.bgone.net -
това си беше готин сайт, а и май нямаше нелегални неща ;)

 Ако пичът чете тук, да го пусне пак - к'во му пречи ;)

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Re: lug-bg: kernel 2.4.21 + RH 9 ?

2003-06-16 Thread Ivaylo Toshev
Значи прочети архива на листа, там ще откриеш, че 
RedHat 9.0 е с ядро с bakwards пачнато от 2.5.X бранша. Най-вече за NPLT
( native posix linux treadhs, ако не се лъжа за правописа ;-))

На ?, 2003-06-16 в 09:49, George Ivanov записа:
> Zdravejte ,
> Nqkoj imal li e vereme da probva dali RH 9 shre varvi s tova qdro ?
> Opitval sum s drugi qdra no ne mi trugvat prilojeniqta . Kazva :
> "Your kernel is too old to support treads " ili neshto ot sorta,  kogato se 
> opitam da startiram primerno KDE.
> 
> Joro
> 
> 
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