Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-30 Thread Ognyan Kulev
George Danchev wrote:
,  rsync  .   , 
  cpu time ...  . 
rsync  32k.  
 checksum :   
, _  _.
,   ., 
 ,  .

 vsftpd  ...   sftp-server, ,   
 standalone ? 
  rsync:   .
 FTP ( HTTP)  SFTP  (  , 
   ).

HTTP   -  FTP (
 HTTP ,  data connection),  
  Apache  
 PHP  .


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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-30 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 29 September 2003 21:53, Nickola Kolev wrote:
 ,

 On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:45:44 +0300
 George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [  ]

  :  vsftpd  ...   sftp-server, ,
  :standalone ?

  vsftpd-server,   sftp-server! ;)
  standalone.,1.0.x,

vsftpd   , , 
 , standalone mode  vsftpd,  ,  
  1.0.1   ;-) 
   sftp-server- (  Marcus Friedl)
openssh.orgsshd.   sftp:// ,  sfp, gftp   
 .standalone,  
,, 
   ssh.rsync
 ssh. 

  :,   
  :files, 
  : filesystems /  files ...  reiserfs 
  :  , xfs   files ()... 
  :   , ..,
  : - -.

  jfs  IBM - 
  , .   
 , IDE RAID ATA133 ,   
  IDE ,   ATA100 .  ,  
 IOSCSI  
   .

-   ,  ftp  web areas   
 :   fs,   
 .  
  .
SMP,  .

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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-30 Thread Vesselin Kolev
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   rsync:   .   
  FTP ( HTTP)  SFTP  (  ,
).

Ehe:) Chak 2 pyti.. silno kazano. Ponezhe naposledyk mi se nalozhi da pravia
shema, pri koiato osven cryptiran kanal traibva da ima i TLS login, napravih i
seria testove. Ako iskash moga da ti napravia i zhiva demonstracia. 

Ta shemata e slednata. ProFTPD v dva rezhima: TLS i non-TLS. 

TLS: Login s X.509 certificate - RSA 2048 bits 
TLS: handshake : Key Exchange-RSA-2048 (RSA key from cert.)
TLS: handshake : Authentication-RSA-2048 (RSA key from cert.)
TLS: handshake : Encryption-BlowFish-128 (random generated key)

non-TLS : plain text login

Celta beshe transfer na 120 faila, kato za vzemaneto na vseki fail se izpolzva
login. T.e. login-transfer-logout

Slediat se dva etapa:

1) Skorost na login processa
2) Skorost na obmena na failovete

FTP Server:

CPU : Athlon 900 MHz
RAM: 512 DDR

HDD: Seagate SATA/7200/8MB

OS: Linux Mandrake 9.1
FTPD: ProFTPD 1.2.9rc2(TLS patched)

Rezultati:

1) Po pokazatel skorost na login processa - kakto e za ochakvane
pecheli plain text shemata, no samo s 13% pred TLS login (pri CPU
s po-malka taktova chestota razlikata nelineiono narastva zaradi RSA).
Nuzhno e da se znae, che sypostavkata ne e mnogo korektna, zashtoto
kato cialo TLS login processa vkliuichva tri etapa: udostoveriavane,
obmen na kliuch, i nachalo na kodiraneto.

2) Po pokazatel scorost na obmen na fail - razlikata e edna 5%. Vsasnost
tia zavisi ot izpokzvania encryption algorithm.

Beshe napraven opit i sys sftp server, vmesto s ProFTPD. Prezultatite v
sravnenie s ProFTPD sa v ramkite na greshkata na izmervaneto...

  Pozdravi
  Beco
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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-30 Thread
Thttpd   ,  http-ranges :) 
, :)

 , 2003-09-29  15:51, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski :
   thttpd  boa http-ranges (), 
  download   .  
 (, )   :)


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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-30 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Vesselin Kolev wrote:
  rsync:   .   
 FTP ( HTTP)  SFTP  (  ,
   ).
Ehe:) Chak 2 pyti.. silno kazano. Ponezhe naposledyk mi se nalozhi da pravia
shema, pri koiato osven cryptiran kanal traibva da ima i TLS login, napravih i
seria testove. Ako iskash moga da ti napravia i zhiva demonstracia. 
  Pentium 200 MHz,
  100K/s   , 
( ).  Pentium 4 1.6 GHz 
   , ;-)


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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-30 Thread Yasen Balev
  overhead,  :
openssh 3.6.1(, - 
)
   ()3%
(  ,   )

 100 ,  P-200   P2-400 - 890   ,  
   load avg ~ 1.0, .

 , -   
  ,  zlib  

 ps / top 30%   sshd, 
 stream

,   mips (
   bogomips   ), 
 .

On Tuesday 30 September 2003 17:55, Ognyan Kulev wrote:
   Pentium 200 MHz,   
   100K/s   ,
 ( ).  Pentium 4 1.6 GHz
, ;-)

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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-29 Thread Georgi Chorbadzhiyski
  wrote:
...  , 
,   , apache  
,...
  -'download manager'-,   
10 (,   FTP   ,  ), 
   , , 
:)
,  HTTP   
-   FTP (, 
,   ..),-. 
 ,   HTTP ,   
  (   thttpd,  
32 ,   mmap, 
),  ...   /  , 
 3000  ,600-700   ,
   load 1 ,thttpd ( 40mbps),   
, ,  
 .
  thttpd  boa http-ranges (), 
 download   .  
(, )   :)
--
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http://georgi.unixsol.org/

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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-29 Thread
...  , 
,   , apache  
,...
  -'download manager'-,   
10 (,   FTP   ,  ), 
   , , 
:)

,  HTTP   
-   FTP (, 
,   ..),-. 
 ,   HTTP ,   
  (   thttpd,  
32 ,   mmap, 
),  ...   /  , 
 3000  ,600-700   ,
   load 1 ,thttpd ( 40mbps),   
, ,  
 .

 , 2003-09-28  20:31, Nickola Kolev :
 ,
 
  , ,   
 http  (apache)   ftp  (proftpd). 
  1000  http  ( ,  
 ),.   
  , ,  load average
 2.00. URL-ftp
,  0.5,   
 ,   proftpd  vsftpd.   
 ,ISO, 
 30  60/..
   ftp   2500100,  
1.00.apache   ,
 ,   .   ,   
 . :)
 
  ,   
 , ,  ftp ,  - vsftpd
-   ,  apache.
 
.



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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-29 Thread Doncho Gunchev
On 2003 Sep 29 Monday 15:51, Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote:
   wrote:
  ...  , 
  ,   , apache  
  ,...
-'download manager'-,   
  10 (,   FTP   ,  ), 
 , , 
  :)
 
  ,  HTTP   
  -   FTP (, 
  ,   ..),-. 
   ,   HTTP ,   
(   thttpd,  
  32 ,   mmap, 
  ),  ...   /  , 
   3000  ,600-700   ,
 load 1 ,thttpd ( 40mbps),   
  , ,  
   .

   thttpd  boa http-ranges (), 
  download   .  
 (, )   :)
http://www.boa.org/news.html
---
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The gzip tarball (160,521 bytes) is here and the detached signature for the tarball is 
here.
The bzip2 tarball (135,601 bytes) is here and the detached signature for the tarball 
is here.
This is 0.94.14rc7 - several 'range'-related bug fixes, including an inadvertant memory
overwrite resulting in eventual corruption -- introduced in rc4 or rc5. Please give 
this
a thorough testing, as this includes range (resume) support.

boa-ta ot 2002 pone poddyrja ;) ---^^^
mislq che i w tux imashe support, ama ne dawam i 10% garanciq, tux syshto taka
ima ftp poddryjka, ne samo http...

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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-29 Thread George Danchev
On Monday 29 September 2003 15:42,   wrote:
 ...  , 
 ,   , apache  
 ,...
   -'download manager'-,   
 10 (,   FTP   ,  ), 
, , 
 :)

 : apache 1.3.xbuild2.x: 
2.x prefork (1.x)  worker  perchild  threadpool,  
 - 
,thread/smp safestable
 ;-) 

 ,  HTTP   
 -   FTP (, 
 ,   ..),-. 
  ,   HTTP ,   
   (   thttpd,  
 32 ,   mmap, 
 ),  ...   /  , 
  3000  ,600-700   ,
load 1 ,thttpd ( 40mbps),   
 , ,  
  .

,  rsync  .   , 
  cpu time ...  . 

  , 2003-09-28  20:31, Nickola Kolev :
  ,
 
   , ,  
   http  (apache)   ftp  (proftpd).   
 1000  http  ( , 
   ),. 
 ,
  ,  load average 2.00.
  URL-ftp,  
 0.5,,   proftpd  vsftpd.
 ,  
   ISO,  30  60/.   
  .   ftp 
   2500100, 
  1.00.apache   , ,
.   ,   
  . :)

 apache 1.3.x   -   ftp daemons  .
   kernel  .  
 ,  OOM killer-... - 
  process table-a ,
  ,  kernel-a(   ram) 
   ...cpu 
time ... . 
. 
 /etc/security/limits.confkernel versions . 
   -  ...  grsec 
 ,  ,  
...  

   ,  
   , ,  ftp , 
  - vsftpd-   ,
   apache.

 vsftpd  ...   sftp-server, ,   
 standalone ? 

   , 
  files,  filesystems  
   /  files ...  reiserfs   , xfs  
 files ()...
, .., - -. 

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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-29 Thread Nickola Kolev
,

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 20:45:44 +0300
George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[  ]
 :  vsftpd  ...   sftp-server, ,   
 :  standalone ? 

 vsftpd-server,   sftp-server! ;)
 standalone.,1.0.x, 
 1.1.3 ( ).   
ftp ,.   -
http://vsftpd.beasts.org/.  ,   
proftpd, pureftpd  ..,
  PAM (  ). 
  -  ,ftp ,
vsftpd e  .

,   ! :

 :, 
 :   files,  filesystems  
 :/  files ...  reiserfs   , xfs  
 :  files ()...
 : , .., - -. 

 jfs  IBM -  
, .,
IDE RAID ATA133 , IDE
,   ATA100 .  ,   IO  
 SCSI .

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 ,

_

Engineering does not require science. Science helps a lot but
people built perfectly good brick walls long before they knew
why cement works.  -Alan Cox   


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ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-28 Thread Nickola Kolev
,

On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:03:57 +0300
Georgi Chorbadzhiyski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 : Ognyan Kulev wrote:
 :  Georgi Chorbadzhiyski wrote:
 :  P.S.  ftp , -  .
 :  
 :   -?
 : 
 : -  ?   ftp == file transfer protocol :)

 -. - ,ftp 
  -,  http 
,   ISO-.

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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-28 Thread
Zashto smqtash taka? Az pone sum ostanal s dosta po-razlichni
vpechatleniq, a i kato cqlo HTTP protokola e po-lek ot FTP, i tvoeto
izqvlenie mi se vizhda stranno :)

(izvinqvam se, che ne pisha na kirilica, imam nqkakuv dreben problem na
notebook-a, i oshte ne sum nameril vreme da go opravq)

 , 2003-09-28  15:50, Nickola Kolev :
 ,
  -. - ,ftp 
   -,  http 
 ,   ISO-.


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Re: ftp vs. http servers [was Re: lug-bg: Slackware 9.1]

2003-09-28 Thread Nickola Kolev
,

 , ,   
http  (apache)   ftp  (proftpd). 
 1000  http  ( ,  
),.   
 , ,  load average
2.00. URL-ftp
   ,  0.5,   
,   proftpd  vsftpd.   
,ISO, 
30  60/..
  ftp   2500100,  
   1.00.apache   ,
,   .   ,   
. :)

 ,   
, ,  ftp ,  - vsftpd
   -   ,  apache.

   .


On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 19:48:44 +0300
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 : Zashto smqtash taka? Az pone sum ostanal s dosta po-razlichni
 : vpechatleniq, a i kato cqlo HTTP protokola e po-lek ot FTP, i tvoeto
 : izqvlenie mi se vizhda stranno :)
 : 
 : (izvinqvam se, che ne pisha na kirilica, imam nqkakuv dreben problem na
 : notebook-a, i oshte ne sum nameril vreme da go opravq)
 : 
 :  , 2003-09-28  15:50, Nickola Kolev :
 :  ,
 :   -. - ,ftp 
 :-,  http 
 :  ,   ISO-.


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 ,

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people built perfectly good brick walls long before they knew
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