Re: Flamewars (was: RE: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail)

2001-11-15 Thread Boris Yordanov

On Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:12:14 +0200
Boyan Krosnov wrote:

> Predlagam Spas da naprawi mail list lug-bg-flames, kydeto da premestim
> podobni diskusii. :)
> 
> BR,
> Boyan

Nali ne vjarvash, che njakoj v lista shte trugne da se samocenzurira i sam shte se 
preprashta kum flames lista :)) Kude go toja moral pionerski :)) Ajde guys, flames na 
private plz. :)

Take care,

Boris Jordanov



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Flamewars (was: RE: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail)

2001-11-15 Thread Boyan Krosnov

Predlagam Spas da naprawi mail list lug-bg-flames, kydeto da premestim
podobni diskusii. :)

BR,
Boyan

> -Original Message-
> From: Vesselin Kolev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail
> 
> 
> On Thursday 15 November 2001 13:16, you wrote:
> > Vesselin Kolev wrote:
> > > Obiknoveno vseki dava tuk otgovori v tozi stil! Choveka
> > > tarseshe otgovor na konkreten problem.
> >
> > Chowekyt se oplaka, che mnogo chesto izlizat nowi wersii na 
> Sendmail.
> 
> Prosledi hronologiata i vizh na kolko chesto izlizat napylno 
> novi versii s
> takiva osnovni promeni i shte vidish che ne e chesto.. Za da 
> niama problemi
> obiknoveno se vika rekursivno metoda RTFM!
> 
> >
> > Mislq, che kato predlagam programa, koqto ne e promenqna poweche ot
> > 3 (tri) godini, e edno dosta priemliwo reshenie na problema mu.
> >
> 
> Mai po sashtata logika traibva da upravliavam localnata si 
> mrezha sas WinNT,
> zashtoto v sambata ima dosta bygove?
> 
> > Ne moga da poprawq koda na Mr Eric Alman taka,
> > che da ne izlizat novi versii prez nqkolko meseca!
> > ;-)))
> 
> Da, tova ne podlazhi i na nai-malko samnenie!
> 
> >
> > > Problema na sendmail ne e, che ima raboti, koito rabotiat zle,
> > > problema e, che e napravena prekaleno moshtna, t.e. ima v
> > > sebe si poddrazhki za ogromen broi operacii, koito ne vinagi
> > > potrebitelia ima zhelanie i tarpenie da prochete kak rabotiat.
> >
> 
> > Towa e "malyk" problem.
> > Eto kakyw e istinskiqt problem na sendmail:
> > http://cr.yp.to/maildisasters/sendmail.html
> 
>  Tova sa problemi na sendmail 8.6... Hubavoto e, che horata 
> se uchat ot
> problemite si i ne spiat, a praviat neshto novo.  Da si 
> opitval niakoga da 
> boravish s 8.11... ili 8.12? Za 8.11 i 8.12 sa raportuvani 
> bygove, koito sa 
> meko kazano izsmukani i chesto pri opit da se povtoriat za 
> proverkite, byga 
> ne  se poluchava. i t.n.. 
> 
> >
> > (Sega samo ne zapochwajte spor koj MTA e naj "secure" ;-)))
> >
> 
> Tuk izobshto ne stava vapros za po-secure i ne znam si 
> kakvo... Vaprosa beshe
> za podhoda!
> 
> Lichno az, a i drugi hora, sam imal za izbot\r dva podhoda... 
> Da pusna qmail 
> i da zabravia za problemi v securityto, da zabravia za 
> podmiana na starite
> versii s novite, da spra da cheta kato lud nova documentacia 
> ili da pusna 
> sendmail, vseki den da sledia kakvo stava, da se vmaniachvam 
> v sintaksisa
> na sendmail.cf i da se vpusna v bezkraina seria ot opiti po 
> optimizirane i 
> zashtita... Lichno na men vtoria podhod poveche mi haresva i 
> vinagi mi e
> haresvalo da ucha i da sam vatre v neshtata... inache niama 
> nito trypka,
> nito seriozen napredak!
> 
> A da, proveri headerite na postingite za da vidish s kakav 
> MTA se obsluzhva
> lug-bg. Mozhe bi shte ti bade interesno!
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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-15 Thread Vesselin Kolev

On Thursday 15 November 2001 13:16, you wrote:
> Vesselin Kolev wrote:
> > Obiknoveno vseki dava tuk otgovori v tozi stil! Choveka
> > tarseshe otgovor na konkreten problem.
>
> Chowekyt se oplaka, che mnogo chesto izlizat nowi wersii na Sendmail.

Prosledi hronologiata i vizh na kolko chesto izlizat napylno novi versii s
takiva osnovni promeni i shte vidish che ne e chesto.. Za da niama problemi
obiknoveno se vika rekursivno metoda RTFM!

>
> Mislq, che kato predlagam programa, koqto ne e promenqna poweche ot
> 3 (tri) godini, e edno dosta priemliwo reshenie na problema mu.
>

Mai po sashtata logika traibva da upravliavam localnata si mrezha sas WinNT,
zashtoto v sambata ima dosta bygove?

> Ne moga da poprawq koda na Mr Eric Alman taka,
> che da ne izlizat novi versii prez nqkolko meseca!
> ;-)))

Da, tova ne podlazhi i na nai-malko samnenie!

>
> > Problema na sendmail ne e, che ima raboti, koito rabotiat zle,
> > problema e, che e napravena prekaleno moshtna, t.e. ima v
> > sebe si poddrazhki za ogromen broi operacii, koito ne vinagi
> > potrebitelia ima zhelanie i tarpenie da prochete kak rabotiat.
>

> Towa e "malyk" problem.
> Eto kakyw e istinskiqt problem na sendmail:
> http://cr.yp.to/maildisasters/sendmail.html

 Tova sa problemi na sendmail 8.6... Hubavoto e, che horata se uchat ot
problemite si i ne spiat, a praviat neshto novo.  Da si opitval niakoga da 
boravish s 8.11... ili 8.12? Za 8.11 i 8.12 sa raportuvani bygove, koito sa 
meko kazano izsmukani i chesto pri opit da se povtoriat za proverkite, byga 
ne  se poluchava. i t.n.. 

>
> (Sega samo ne zapochwajte spor koj MTA e naj "secure" ;-)))
>

Tuk izobshto ne stava vapros za po-secure i ne znam si kakvo... Vaprosa beshe
za podhoda!

Lichno az, a i drugi hora, sam imal za izbot\r dva podhoda... Da pusna qmail 
i da zabravia za problemi v securityto, da zabravia za podmiana na starite
versii s novite, da spra da cheta kato lud nova documentacia ili da pusna 
sendmail, vseki den da sledia kakvo stava, da se vmaniachvam v sintaksisa
na sendmail.cf i da se vpusna v bezkraina seria ot opiti po optimizirane i 
zashtita... Lichno na men vtoria podhod poveche mi haresva i vinagi mi e
haresvalo da ucha i da sam vatre v neshtata... inache niama nito trypka,
nito seriozen napredak!

A da, proveri headerite na postingite za da vidish s kakav MTA se obsluzhva
lug-bg. Mozhe bi shte ti bade interesno!
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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-15 Thread Vesselin Kotarov

Nqma da zapochwam thread na tema koj mta e naj-secure.
Samo moga da se opitam da oponiram na nqkoi ot izkazanite twyrdeniq.

[snip]
> 
> Mislq, che kato predlagam programa, koqto ne e promenqna poweche ot
> 3 (tri) godini, e edno dosta priemliwo reshenie na problema mu.
> 
> Ne moga da poprawq koda na Mr Eric Alman taka, 
> che da ne izlizat novi versii prez nqkolko meseca!
> ;-)))

Towa, che edin software ne e promenqn 3 godini izobshto ne znachi, che toj
e perfekten, dori naprotiw - ako chowek malko se poraztyrsi shte razbere,
che wsyshtnost qmail ima adski mnogo minusi, koito se okazwat poweche
ot pljusowete mu, t.e. qmail NE tyrpi razwitie w nikakwa posoka ot 3 (tri)
godini nasam. A otnosno koda na qmail - nqkoj da e wivdal swesten
uchebnik po C, w kojto da e daden primer "void main()" ? :o)

[snip]

> 
> Towa e "malyk" problem.
> Eto kakyw e istinskiqt problem na sendmail:
> http://cr.yp.to/maildisasters/sendmail.html
> 
> (Sega samo ne zapochwajte spor koj MTA e naj "secure" ;-)))

Ne goworim za security, a za funkcionalnost. qmail e mnogo osakaten
i az smeq da twyrdq, che DJB nikoga ne e chel rfc-to za ESMTP i
rfc-to za extensionite na POP3 protokola. Ako nqkoj se chudi za kakwo
goworq - SMTP komandata ETRN i POP3 komandata CAPA sa dostatychno
swetli primeri za towa kakwo dyrwo wsyshtnost e qmail.

A kato kapak na wsichko shte slova i towa, che gorespomenatiq DJB
e chowek, kojto ne se interesuwa ot mnenieto na okolnite i ot towa
koe te smqtat za prawilno ili ne. Syshto taka nikak ne obicha da si 
priznawa greshkite. E nqkaksi ne wyrwi celiq ti mail da zawisi ot 
nqkakyw si tip, kojto ti opredelq nachina na rabota. (i pak za primer -
goworq za welikite ucspi-tcp ili kakto tam se narichaha tiq shitowe
blagodarenie na koito chowek set-wa nekwi env vars, shtoto nqkoj
go myrzqlo da napishe parser za config file).

A'e dotuk. 
btw s radost bih izslushal i malko kritika za postfix i exim.

bOmbe.

P.S. abe i az polzwam qmail, ama pone ne go prehwalwam ;)


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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-15 Thread Georgi Kupenov

Vesselin Kolev wrote:
> Obiknoveno vseki dava tuk otgovori v tozi stil! Choveka
> tarseshe otgovor na konkreten problem. 

Chowekyt se oplaka, che mnogo chesto izlizat nowi wersii na Sendmail.

Mislq, che kato predlagam programa, koqto ne e promenqna poweche ot
3 (tri) godini, e edno dosta priemliwo reshenie na problema mu.

Ne moga da poprawq koda na Mr Eric Alman taka, 
che da ne izlizat novi versii prez nqkolko meseca!
;-)))


> Problema na sendmail ne e, che ima raboti, koito rabotiat zle,
> problema e, che e napravena prekaleno moshtna, t.e. ima v
> sebe si poddrazhki za ogromen broi operacii, koito ne vinagi
> potrebitelia ima zhelanie i tarpenie da prochete kak rabotiat.

Towa e "malyk" problem.
Eto kakyw e istinskiqt problem na sendmail:
http://cr.yp.to/maildisasters/sendmail.html

(Sega samo ne zapochwajte spor koj MTA e naj "secure" ;-)))





> > Teodor Georgiev wrote:
> > > V interes na istinata mi pisna na seki 6 meseca da izliza nova versia na
> > > Sendmail kudeto vsichko da e oburnato s guza
> > > nagore v srvnenie s predishnata :(((
> >
> > Opitaj s qmail.
> >
> > Wiv ot koga e poslednata wersiq:
> > http://free.techno-link.com/joro/books/qmail/man/misc/CHANGES.txt
> >
> > Ima i drugi MTA, koito syshto sa po-dobro reshenie ot Sendmail.


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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-15 Thread Vesselin Kolev

Ima pone 5 (az znam za tolkova) interpetacii na tozi laf...

On Thursday 15 November 2001 11:57, you wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vesselin Kolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail
>
>
> [snip]
>
> > I nali znaete starata maxima na UNIX-guru-to: Edin administrator
> > e goliam systemen administrator, kogato podne vednazh e
> > uspial da redaktira rychno sendmail.cf...
>
> Tochniq laf: Malko sa administratorite, koito ne sa otwarqli i redaktirali
> sendmail.cf pone wednyv. Oshte po-malko sa tezi, koito sa se osmelili
> da go naprawqt wtori pyt ;-)
>
> bOmbe.
>
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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-15 Thread Vesselin Kotarov


- Original Message - 
From: "Vesselin Kolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail


[snip]
> I nali znaete starata maxima na UNIX-guru-to: Edin administrator
> e goliam systemen administrator, kogato podne vednazh e
> uspial da redaktira rychno sendmail.cf...

Tochniq laf: Malko sa administratorite, koito ne sa otwarqli i redaktirali
sendmail.cf pone wednyv. Oshte po-malko sa tezi, koito sa se osmelili
da go naprawqt wtori pyt ;-)

bOmbe.


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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-15 Thread Teodor Georgiev

o... vse edno che ne sum chuval za Qmail...
Znam che  e mnogo po-dobyr, ama ne mi ostava kapka vreme da sedna i da go
podhvana.
Vse chakam momenta da se osvobodia. Lesna e vashta...

- Original Message -
From: "Georgi Kupenov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail


> Teodor Georgiev wrote:
> >
> > V interes na istinata mi pisna na seki 6 meseca da izliza nova versia na
> > Sendmail kudeto vsichko da e oburnato s guza
> > nagore v srvnenie s predishnata :(((
>
> Opitaj s qmail.
>
> Wiv ot koga e poslednata wersiq:
> http://free.techno-link.com/joro/books/qmail/man/misc/CHANGES.txt
>
> Ima i drugi MTA, koito syshto sa po-dobro reshenie ot Sendmail.
>
>
> Joro
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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-15 Thread Vesselin Kolev

Tova  mi zvuchi kato da si kupim nov computer za 
novata ni programa:))) Ili kato .. kupi si Jaguar, ako
na Ladata ti i se zapushva chesto filtera za masloto...

Obiknoveno vseki dava tuk otgovori v tozi stil! Choveka
tarseshe otgovor na konkreten problem. Tazi sutrin se
porovih i vidiah, che i v upatvaneto kam novata versia si
pishe da se izpalni newaliases predi startirane na sendmaila.
I to e napraveno taka, zashtoto veche sendmail ne raboti s
userid root, a s drug, sobstven za neia ID (napr. sendmail).

Tova e bila cialata rabota. Zatova chovek chete documentacia
predi da napravi neshto. Ako niakoi ima problemi s qmail kakvo,
da vzeme da si smeni qmaila sas sednail ili s Exim li? 

Problema na sendmail ne e, che ima raboti, koito rabotiat zle,
problema e, che e napravena prekaleno moshtna, t.e. ima v
sebe si poddrazhki za ogromen broi operacii, koito ne vinagi
potrebitelia ima zhelanie i tarpenie da prochete kak rabotiat.

Haide chestno da si kazhe vseki, koito e puskal sendmail dali
e imal zhelnieto i tarpenieto da prochete pylnata documentacia
za saotvetnata versia!? Az mislia, che ne e... Naistina trudno se
chete tolkova mnogo neshto. Na men mi otne poveche ot 2
sedmici da procheta i osmislia napisanoto v knigata "Sendmail
2-nd ed." Niakoi raboti naistina sa prekaleno slozhni, no v
sendmail ima takiva neshta, koito niamat analog nikade drugade...
Koito znae kak da raboti s pravilata za preobrazuvane razbira
kolko moshtna programa e sendmail...

I nali znaete starata maxima na UNIX-guru-to: Edin administrator
e goliam systemen administrator, kogato podne vednazh e
uspial da redaktira rychno sendmail.cf...

On Thursday 15 November 2001 10:30, you wrote:
> Teodor Georgiev wrote:
> > V interes na istinata mi pisna na seki 6 meseca da izliza nova versia na
> > Sendmail kudeto vsichko da e oburnato s guza
> > nagore v srvnenie s predishnata :(((
>
> Opitaj s qmail.
>
> Wiv ot koga e poslednata wersiq:
> http://free.techno-link.com/joro/books/qmail/man/misc/CHANGES.txt
>
> Ima i drugi MTA, koito syshto sa po-dobro reshenie ot Sendmail.
>
>
> Joro
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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-15 Thread Georgi Kupenov

Teodor Georgiev wrote:
> 
> V interes na istinata mi pisna na seki 6 meseca da izliza nova versia na
> Sendmail kudeto vsichko da e oburnato s guza
> nagore v srvnenie s predishnata :(((

Opitaj s qmail.

Wiv ot koga e poslednata wersiq:
http://free.techno-link.com/joro/books/qmail/man/misc/CHANGES.txt

Ima i drugi MTA, koito syshto sa po-dobro reshenie ot Sendmail.


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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-14 Thread George Danchev

On Wednesday 14 November 2001 15:52, you wrote:
> problema se reshi.
>
> Ko shtesh viarvai, ama kato napisah: newaliases i restartnah sendmaila i
> sichko trugna... .. 
e taka ne stava li ?
sendmail -bi-> inicializira alias db-to 
(newaliases = sendmail -bi)
slozhi mu i edno -v da plue ko praj, bi trqbvalo da report-va i update-a na 
alias db. 
sendmail -n -> da ne alias-va 

> V interes na istinata mi pisna na seki 6 meseca da izliza nova versia na
> Sendmail kudeto vsichko da e oburnato s guza
> nagore v srvnenie s predishnata :(((
opitaj s exchange, tam si4ko e s guza nagore i neo4akvaj promqna v 
sledvashtata versiq ... :)))

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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-14 Thread Vesselin Kolev

V interes na istinata:)) vinagi prochitam ot do informaciata za
novata versia ot sendmail.org i togava slagam:))) Oshte ne 
sam minal na 8.12 no i tova shte stane kato imam vreme da
cheta...

  Vesselin

On Wednesday 14 November 2001 17:35, you wrote:
> V interes na istinata mi pisna na seki 6 meseca da izliza nova versia na
> Sendmail kudeto vsichko da e oburnato s guza
> nagore v srvnenie s predishnata :(((
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vesselin Kolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:49 PM
> Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail
>
> > Am daaa: hehe.. da. Za tova ne se biah setil.. misleh, che
>
> avtomatichno
>
> > na vseki restart na sendmaila ti izpalniava newaliases, no iavno 8.12 ne
>
> go
>
> > pravi...
> >
> >   Vesselin
>
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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-14 Thread Teodor Georgiev


V interes na istinata mi pisna na seki 6 meseca da izliza nova versia na
Sendmail kudeto vsichko da e oburnato s guza
nagore v srvnenie s predishnata :(((

- Original Message -
From: "Vesselin Kolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail


> Am daaa: hehe.. da. Za tova ne se biah setil.. misleh, che
avtomatichno
> na vseki restart na sendmaila ti izpalniava newaliases, no iavno 8.12 ne
go
> pravi...
>
>   Vesselin
>
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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-14 Thread Vesselin Kolev

Am daaa: hehe.. da. Za tova ne se biah setil.. misleh, che avtomatichno
na vseki restart na sendmaila ti izpalniava newaliases, no iavno 8.12 ne go
pravi...

  Vesselin

On Wednesday 14 November 2001 15:52, you wrote:
> problema se reshi.
>
> Ko shtesh viarvai, ama kato napisah: newaliases i restartnah sendmaila i
> sichko trugna... .. 
>
> A DNS bazata e nared. Proveriaval sum q tochka po tochka.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vesselin Kolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail
>
> > Chakai sega.. ia napravi slednoto:
> >
> > #nslookup
> >
> > >set type=any
> > >abc.net
> >
> > i mi prati rezultata
> >
> > On Wednesday 14 November 2001 12:45, you wrote:
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Vesselin Kolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:57 PM
> > > Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail
> > >
> > > > Ako e taka, zadai v /etc/mail/local-host-names imeto na hosta si.
> > > > T.e. ako imeto na hosta ti v /etc/hosts e abrakadabra.bum.org, v
> > > > /etc/mail/local-host-names zadai na otdelen red:
> > > >
> > > > abrakadabra.bum.org
> > > >
> > > > Sled tova restartirai sendmail! I testvai da pratish mail na
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ako uspeesh znachi problema ti e
> > >
> > > stava sushtoto - zabiva. T.e. to ne che zabiva na rcpt-to a se bavi
>
> dosta
>
> > > minutki i chak togava dava
> > > rcpt-to...
> > >
> > > Sendmaila e 8.12.1
> > >
> > > uzh gledam v DNS-a vsichko e nared.
> > > Malko me sumniava tova, che samia domain  abc.net mu e prikacheno IP...
> > > to az i predi sum wizhdal taka i ne pravi problemi... uf mamicata mu.
> > >
> > > > v DNS-a. Ako po DNS ne vizhdash dori sobstvenia si domain e
> > > > dosta losho.
> > >
> > > pone 50 puti sum izpolzval nslookup dokato se borih s problema.
> > > v resolv.conf si pita purvo moia nameserver.
> > >
> > > > Napravi tova zasega i se obadi s rezultata!
> > > >
> > > >Vesselin
>
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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-14 Thread Teodor Georgiev

problema se reshi.

Ko shtesh viarvai, ama kato napisah: newaliases i restartnah sendmaila i
sichko trugna... .. 

A DNS bazata e nared. Proveriaval sum q tochka po tochka.

- Original Message -
From: "Vesselin Kolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail


>
> Chakai sega.. ia napravi slednoto:
>
> #nslookup
> >set type=any
> >abc.net
> i mi prati rezultata
>
>
>
> On Wednesday 14 November 2001 12:45, you wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Vesselin Kolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:57 PM
> > Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail
> >
> > > Ako e taka, zadai v /etc/mail/local-host-names imeto na hosta si. T.e.
> > > ako imeto na hosta ti v /etc/hosts e abrakadabra.bum.org, v
> > > /etc/mail/local-host-names zadai na otdelen red:
> > >
> > > abrakadabra.bum.org
> > >
> > > Sled tova restartirai sendmail! I testvai da pratish mail na
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ako uspeesh znachi problema ti e
> >
> > stava sushtoto - zabiva. T.e. to ne che zabiva na rcpt-to a se bavi
dosta
> > minutki i chak togava dava
> > rcpt-to...
> >
> > Sendmaila e 8.12.1
> >
> > uzh gledam v DNS-a vsichko e nared.
> > Malko me sumniava tova, che samia domain  abc.net mu e prikacheno IP...
> > to az i predi sum wizhdal taka i ne pravi problemi... uf mamicata mu.
> >
> > > v DNS-a. Ako po DNS ne vizhdash dori sobstvenia si domain e
> > > dosta losho.
> >
> > pone 50 puti sum izpolzval nslookup dokato se borih s problema.
> > v resolv.conf si pita purvo moia nameserver.
> >
> > > Napravi tova zasega i se obadi s rezultata!
> > >
> > >Vesselin
> >
> >
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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-14 Thread Vesselin Kolev


Chakai sega.. ia napravi slednoto:

#nslookup
>set type=any
>abc.net
i mi prati rezultata



On Wednesday 14 November 2001 12:45, you wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vesselin Kolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:57 PM
> Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail
>
> > Ako e taka, zadai v /etc/mail/local-host-names imeto na hosta si. T.e.
> > ako imeto na hosta ti v /etc/hosts e abrakadabra.bum.org, v
> > /etc/mail/local-host-names zadai na otdelen red:
> >
> > abrakadabra.bum.org
> >
> > Sled tova restartirai sendmail! I testvai da pratish mail na
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ako uspeesh znachi problema ti e
>
> stava sushtoto - zabiva. T.e. to ne che zabiva na rcpt-to a se bavi dosta
> minutki i chak togava dava
> rcpt-to...
>
> Sendmaila e 8.12.1
>
> uzh gledam v DNS-a vsichko e nared.
> Malko me sumniava tova, che samia domain  abc.net mu e prikacheno IP...
> to az i predi sum wizhdal taka i ne pravi problemi... uf mamicata mu.
>
> > v DNS-a. Ako po DNS ne vizhdash dori sobstvenia si domain e
> > dosta losho.
>
> pone 50 puti sum izpolzval nslookup dokato se borih s problema.
> v resolv.conf si pita purvo moia nameserver.
>
> > Napravi tova zasega i se obadi s rezultata!
> >
> >Vesselin
>
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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-14 Thread Teodor Georgiev


- Original Message -
From: "Vesselin Kolev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail


> Ako e taka, zadai v /etc/mail/local-host-names imeto na hosta si. T.e.
> ako imeto na hosta ti v /etc/hosts e abrakadabra.bum.org, v
> /etc/mail/local-host-names zadai na otdelen red:
>
> abrakadabra.bum.org
>
> Sled tova restartirai sendmail! I testvai da pratish mail na
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ako uspeesh znachi problema ti e

stava sushtoto - zabiva. T.e. to ne che zabiva na rcpt-to a se bavi dosta
minutki i chak togava dava
rcpt-to...

Sendmaila e 8.12.1

uzh gledam v DNS-a vsichko e nared.
Malko me sumniava tova, che samia domain  abc.net mu e prikacheno IP...
to az i predi sum wizhdal taka i ne pravi problemi... uf mamicata mu.

> v DNS-a. Ako po DNS ne vizhdash dori sobstvenia si domain e
> dosta losho.

pone 50 puti sum izpolzval nslookup dokato se borih s problema.
v resolv.conf si pita purvo moia nameserver.

> Napravi tova zasega i se obadi s rezultata!
>
>Vesselin
>


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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-13 Thread Vesselin Kolev

Samo niakolko belezhki...

Predpolagam imeto na hosta ti e zadadeno v /etc/hosts. Proveri dali v
/etc/host.conf e zadadena posedovatelnostta za tyrsene na ime:

order hosts,bind

Ako e taka, zadai v /etc/mail/local-host-names imeto na hosta si. T.e.
ako imeto na hosta ti v /etc/hosts e abrakadabra.bum.org, v 
/etc/mail/local-host-names zadai na otdelen red:

abrakadabra.bum.org

Sled tova restartirai sendmail! I testvai da pratish mail na 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Ako uspeesh znachi problema ti e
v DNS-a. Ako po DNS ne vizhdash dori sobstvenia si domain e
dosta losho.

Napravi tova zasega i se obadi s rezultata!

   Vesselin


On Tuesday 13 November 2001 15:43, you wrote:
> Znachi, poiavi mi se otvrat problem sus Sendmail. I predi sum imal ot
> takuv tip, ama suym go reshaval. E sega prosto
> me hvurli v orkestura.
>
> Znachi edna mashina  (A) e definirana kato primary mail collector  za
> domain (da rechem) abc.net
>
> v  DNS bazata za domaina si go ima opisano:
>
> IN MX 10A.abc.net
>
> e hubavo. Obache NE ISKA DA PRIEMA pisma za tozi domain.
>
> Logvam se ruchno i pisha:
>
> helo ...
> mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ... Sender Ok
> rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> i tuka na rcpt to uvisva. zabiva si.
>
> Ako obache ot  faila local-host-names  mahna  abc.net  (koeto si e
> glupost), to poshtata si minava, obache
> vuv logovete si pishe: "MX List for abc.net points back to... " koeto si e
> napulno obosnovano.
>
> ta subiram mnenie po vuprosa s uvisvaneto na rcpt-to.
> Mnogo se sumniavam da e niakade po ressolvinga, shtoto ... niama da
> komentiram v kakvo sustoianie beshe DNS bazata
> za IP-tata v mrezhata ni... No ne moga da hvana diriata.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-13 Thread Vesselin Kolev

S kakava versia na sendmail si???
Ia mi dai IP-to da proveria na men kakvo shte mi kazhe!

  Vesselin


On Tuesday 13 November 2001 15:43, you wrote:
> Znachi, poiavi mi se otvrat problem sus Sendmail. I predi sum imal ot
> takuv tip, ama suym go reshaval. E sega prosto
> me hvurli v orkestura.
>
> Znachi edna mashina  (A) e definirana kato primary mail collector  za
> domain (da rechem) abc.net
>
> v  DNS bazata za domaina si go ima opisano:
>
> IN MX 10A.abc.net
>
> e hubavo. Obache NE ISKA DA PRIEMA pisma za tozi domain.
>
> Logvam se ruchno i pisha:
>
> helo ...
> mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ... Sender Ok
> rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> i tuka na rcpt to uvisva. zabiva si.
>
> Ako obache ot  faila local-host-names  mahna  abc.net  (koeto si e
> glupost), to poshtata si minava, obache
> vuv logovete si pishe: "MX List for abc.net points back to... " koeto si e
> napulno obosnovano.
>
> ta subiram mnenie po vuprosa s uvisvaneto na rcpt-to.
> Mnogo se sumniavam da e niakade po ressolvinga, shtoto ... niama da
> komentiram v kakvo sustoianie beshe DNS bazata
> za IP-tata v mrezhata ni... No ne moga da hvana diriata.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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lug-bg: gaden problem sus sendmail

2001-11-13 Thread Teodor Georgiev


Znachi, poiavi mi se otvrat problem sus Sendmail. I predi sum imal ot
takuv tip, ama suym go reshaval. E sega prosto
me hvurli v orkestura.

Znachi edna mashina  (A) e definirana kato primary mail collector  za domain
(da rechem) abc.net

v  DNS bazata za domaina si go ima opisano:

IN MX 10A.abc.net

e hubavo. Obache NE ISKA DA PRIEMA pisma za tozi domain.

Logvam se ruchno i pisha:

helo ...
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  ... Sender Ok
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

i tuka na rcpt to uvisva. zabiva si.

Ako obache ot  faila local-host-names  mahna  abc.net  (koeto si e glupost),
to poshtata si minava, obache
vuv logovete si pishe: "MX List for abc.net points back to... " koeto si e
napulno obosnovano.

ta subiram mnenie po vuprosa s uvisvaneto na rcpt-to.
Mnogo se sumniavam da e niakade po ressolvinga, shtoto ... niama da
komentiram v kakvo sustoianie beshe DNS bazata
za IP-tata v mrezhata ni... No ne moga da hvana diriata.










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