Re: [lustre-discuss] Lustre and Optane

2020-01-13 Thread Andreas Dilger
The most likely candidate for effectively using Optane/NVRAM would be
via Persistent Client Cache (PCC), which allows client-local storage to
be part of the Lustre namespace.  Files can be cached on a local NVRAM
device (managed by a local filesystem like ext4, or possibly something
more experimental like NOVA for better performance) and then migrated
into the cache.

Once the file is in PCC, it can be accessed via the local filesystem
operations, including DAX, for very low-latency operations.  See the
presentation from LAD'19 for details:

https://www.eofs.eu/_media/events/lad19/07_li_xi-nvram_pcc.pdf

It should be noted that in Lustre 2.13, files in PCC are NOT resident in the
main filesystem, so if the client node goes offline then the files will not be
accessible until the client node is restarted.  For some workloads this is OK
(e.g. files being generated locally with high IOPS that are occasionally
needed on other clients), but not for others.  We will be improving PCC to
use FLR to mirror a copy into the client cache and still keep a copy in the
main filesystem, but that is not available yet.

Cheers, Andreas

On Jan 13, 2020, at 10:03, Dave Holland 
mailto:d...@sanger.ac.uk>> wrote:

I haven't been to LUG or LAD recently, so I'm a bit out of the loop, but
how much use is Optane finding in the Lustre world?

The main obstacle I see is that it's server-local, so building a
resilient/failover-capable system isn't straightforward.

Thanks for any observations.

Cheers,
Dave
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Cheers, Andreas
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Re: [lustre-discuss] SC19 bof slides

2020-01-13 Thread Thomas Hamel
Hi,

That's what I was looking for, thank you!

Regards

Thomas


Le 13 janvier 2020 18:23:08 GMT+01:00, "Rawlings, Kenrick D"  
a écrit :
>Hi Thomas,
>
>An aggregated version of the slides is available at:
>
>http://lustre.org/wp-content/uploads/SC19LustreBoF_All.pdf
>
>There were some challenges combining them in a way that works in all
>PDF viewers. If there are any issues with rendering, please let me know
>and we can make the individual decks available as well.
>
>Thanks,
>Ken
>​
>
>
>Hello,
>
>Are the slides presented during the bof in Denver available somewhere?
>
>I'm specifically looking for one of the sites presentation that gave
>some feedback about DoM.
>
>Regards
>
>Thomas Hamel

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Re: [lustre-discuss] SC19 bof slides

2020-01-13 Thread Rawlings, Kenrick D
Hi Thomas,

An aggregated version of the slides is available at:

http://lustre.org/wp-content/uploads/SC19LustreBoF_All.pdf

There were some challenges combining them in a way that works in all PDF 
viewers. If there are any issues with rendering, please let me know and we can 
make the individual decks available as well.

Thanks,
Ken
​


Hello,

Are the slides presented during the bof in Denver available somewhere?

I'm specifically looking for one of the sites presentation that gave some 
feedback about DoM.

Regards

Thomas Hamel
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[lustre-discuss] Lustre and Optane

2020-01-13 Thread Dave Holland
I haven't been to LUG or LAD recently, so I'm a bit out of the loop, but
how much use is Optane finding in the Lustre world?

The main obstacle I see is that it's server-local, so building a
resilient/failover-capable system isn't straightforward.

Thanks for any observations.

Cheers,
Dave
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** 01223 496923 **Wellcome Sanger Institute, Hinxton, UK**


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[lustre-discuss] SC19 bof slides

2020-01-13 Thread Thomas Hamel
Hello,

Are the slides presented during the bof in Denver available somewhere?

I'm specifically looking for one of the sites presentation that gave some 
feedback about DoM.

Regards

Thomas Hamel
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