Re: [Lustre-discuss] status of lustre 2.0 on 2.6.18-194.17.1.0.1.el5 kernels

2011-01-11 Thread Michael Shuey
What does that imply for sites migrating from 1.8 to 2.1?  Presumably
some sites will have both 1.8 and 2.1 filesystems; will those sites
need to run 2.0 on the clients to mount both FS versions concurrently?

--
Mike Shuey



On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Andreas Dilger adil...@whamcloud.com wrote:
 While 2.0 was submitted to quite heavy testing at Oracle before it's
 release, it has not been widely deployed for production at this point. All
 of the develoment and maintenance effort has gone into the next release
 (2.1) which is not released yet. I think that 2.1 will represent a much more
 sustainable target for production usage, when it is released. Until that
 happens, I would only recommend 2.0 for evaluation usage, and especially for
 sites new to Lustre that they stay on the tried-and-true 1.8 code base.

 Cheers, Andreas
 On 2011-01-11, at 12:56, Samuel Aparicio sapari...@bccrc.ca wrote:

 thanks for this note.
 is lustre 2.0 regarded as stable for production?
 Professor Samuel Aparicio BM BCh PhD FRCPath
 Nan and Lorraine Robertson Chair UBC/BC Cancer Agency
 675 West 10th, Vancouver V5Z 1L3, Canada.
 office: +1 604 675 8200 cellphone: +1 604 762 5178: lab
 website http://molonc.bccrc.ca




 On Jan 7, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Colin Faber wrote:

 Hi,

 I've built several against 2.6.18-194.17.1.el5 kernels without problem
 so I would think you can probably get away with 0.1 as well.

 -cf


 On 01/07/2011 06:05 PM, Samuel Aparicio wrote:

 Is it known if Lustre 2.0 GA will run with 2.6.18-194.17.1.0.1.el5

 kernels. The test matrix has only the 164 kernel as the latest tested.

 Professor Samuel Aparicio BM BCh PhD FRCPath

 Nan and Lorraine Robertson Chair UBC/BC Cancer Agency

 675 West 10th, Vancouver V5Z 1L3, Canada.

 office: +1 604 675 8200 cellphone: +1 604 762 5178: lab website

 http://molonc.bccrc.ca http://molonc.bccrc.ca/






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Re: [Lustre-discuss] status of lustre 2.0 on 2.6.18-194.17.1.0.1.el5 kernels

2011-01-11 Thread Temple Jason
And what impact do you forsee from this article?

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From: lustre-discuss-boun...@lists.lustre.org 
[mailto:lustre-discuss-boun...@lists.lustre.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Dilger
Sent: martedì, 11. gennaio 2011 21:55
To: Michael Shuey
Cc: lustre-discuss@lists.lustre.org
Subject: Re: [Lustre-discuss] status of lustre 2.0 on 2.6.18-194.17.1.0.1.el5 
kernels

The interoperability for 2.x releases has been the following for a long time:

- 1.8 clients will work with 1.8 and 2.x servers (through some version of x to 
be determined), though they may not be able to take advantage of newer features 
being added to 2.x. In some cases, the 2.x features need to be turned off until 
all of the clients have been upgraded to 2.x.
- 2.x clients will not be able to interoperate with 1.8 servers.

That means that it is necessary to upgrade the servers to 2.x before the 
clients, or at the same time. 

Also, the upgrade process of the servers from 1.8 to 2.x is disruptive to the 
client - the client is evicted and automatically reconnects to the 2.x server 
using the new wire protocol. Any client doing RPCs at the time of the upgrade 
will get an IO error, so running jobs on the clients need to be at least paused.
 
Cheers, Andreas

On 2011-01-11, at 13:24, Michael Shuey sh...@purdue.edu wrote:

 What does that imply for sites migrating from 1.8 to 2.1?  Presumably
 some sites will have both 1.8 and 2.1 filesystems; will those sites
 need to run 2.0 on the clients to mount both FS versions concurrently?
 
 --
 Mike Shuey
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Andreas Dilger adil...@whamcloud.com wrote:
 While 2.0 was submitted to quite heavy testing at Oracle before it's
 release, it has not been widely deployed for production at this point. All
 of the develoment and maintenance effort has gone into the next release
 (2.1) which is not released yet. I think that 2.1 will represent a much more
 sustainable target for production usage, when it is released. Until that
 happens, I would only recommend 2.0 for evaluation usage, and especially for
 sites new to Lustre that they stay on the tried-and-true 1.8 code base.
 
 Cheers, Andreas
 On 2011-01-11, at 12:56, Samuel Aparicio sapari...@bccrc.ca wrote:
 
 thanks for this note.
 is lustre 2.0 regarded as stable for production?
 Professor Samuel Aparicio BM BCh PhD FRCPath
 Nan and Lorraine Robertson Chair UBC/BC Cancer Agency
 675 West 10th, Vancouver V5Z 1L3, Canada.
 office: +1 604 675 8200 cellphone: +1 604 762 5178: lab
 website http://molonc.bccrc.ca
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Colin Faber wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've built several against 2.6.18-194.17.1.el5 kernels without problem
 so I would think you can probably get away with 0.1 as well.
 
 -cf
 
 
 On 01/07/2011 06:05 PM, Samuel Aparicio wrote:
 
 Is it known if Lustre 2.0 GA will run with 2.6.18-194.17.1.0.1.el5
 
 kernels. The test matrix has only the 164 kernel as the latest tested.
 
 Professor Samuel Aparicio BM BCh PhD FRCPath
 
 Nan and Lorraine Robertson Chair UBC/BC Cancer Agency
 
 675 West 10th, Vancouver V5Z 1L3, Canada.
 
 office: +1 604 675 8200 cellphone: +1 604 762 5178: lab website
 
 http://molonc.bccrc.ca http://molonc.bccrc.ca/
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Lustre-discuss] status of lustre 2.0 on 2.6.18-194.17.1.0.1.el5 kernels

2011-01-11 Thread Temple Jason
I mean this article.  Forgot to attach it:

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/InsideHPC/~3/LI9iHNGoFZw/

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From: lustre-discuss-boun...@lists.lustre.org 
[mailto:lustre-discuss-boun...@lists.lustre.org] On Behalf Of Andreas Dilger
Sent: martedì, 11. gennaio 2011 21:55
To: Michael Shuey
Cc: lustre-discuss@lists.lustre.org
Subject: Re: [Lustre-discuss] status of lustre 2.0 on 2.6.18-194.17.1.0.1.el5 
kernels

The interoperability for 2.x releases has been the following for a long time:

- 1.8 clients will work with 1.8 and 2.x servers (through some version of x to 
be determined), though they may not be able to take advantage of newer features 
being added to 2.x. In some cases, the 2.x features need to be turned off until 
all of the clients have been upgraded to 2.x.
- 2.x clients will not be able to interoperate with 1.8 servers.

That means that it is necessary to upgrade the servers to 2.x before the 
clients, or at the same time. 

Also, the upgrade process of the servers from 1.8 to 2.x is disruptive to the 
client - the client is evicted and automatically reconnects to the 2.x server 
using the new wire protocol. Any client doing RPCs at the time of the upgrade 
will get an IO error, so running jobs on the clients need to be at least paused.
 
Cheers, Andreas

On 2011-01-11, at 13:24, Michael Shuey sh...@purdue.edu wrote:

 What does that imply for sites migrating from 1.8 to 2.1?  Presumably
 some sites will have both 1.8 and 2.1 filesystems; will those sites
 need to run 2.0 on the clients to mount both FS versions concurrently?
 
 --
 Mike Shuey
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Andreas Dilger adil...@whamcloud.com wrote:
 While 2.0 was submitted to quite heavy testing at Oracle before it's
 release, it has not been widely deployed for production at this point. All
 of the develoment and maintenance effort has gone into the next release
 (2.1) which is not released yet. I think that 2.1 will represent a much more
 sustainable target for production usage, when it is released. Until that
 happens, I would only recommend 2.0 for evaluation usage, and especially for
 sites new to Lustre that they stay on the tried-and-true 1.8 code base.
 
 Cheers, Andreas
 On 2011-01-11, at 12:56, Samuel Aparicio sapari...@bccrc.ca wrote:
 
 thanks for this note.
 is lustre 2.0 regarded as stable for production?
 Professor Samuel Aparicio BM BCh PhD FRCPath
 Nan and Lorraine Robertson Chair UBC/BC Cancer Agency
 675 West 10th, Vancouver V5Z 1L3, Canada.
 office: +1 604 675 8200 cellphone: +1 604 762 5178: lab
 website http://molonc.bccrc.ca
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 7, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Colin Faber wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've built several against 2.6.18-194.17.1.el5 kernels without problem
 so I would think you can probably get away with 0.1 as well.
 
 -cf
 
 
 On 01/07/2011 06:05 PM, Samuel Aparicio wrote:
 
 Is it known if Lustre 2.0 GA will run with 2.6.18-194.17.1.0.1.el5
 
 kernels. The test matrix has only the 164 kernel as the latest tested.
 
 Professor Samuel Aparicio BM BCh PhD FRCPath
 
 Nan and Lorraine Robertson Chair UBC/BC Cancer Agency
 
 675 West 10th, Vancouver V5Z 1L3, Canada.
 
 office: +1 604 675 8200 cellphone: +1 604 762 5178: lab website
 
 http://molonc.bccrc.ca http://molonc.bccrc.ca/
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Lustre-discuss] status of lustre 2.0 on 2.6.18-194.17.1.0.1.el5 kernels

2011-01-07 Thread Colin Faber
Hi,

I've built several against 2.6.18-194.17.1.el5 kernels without problem 
so I would think you can probably get away with 0.1 as well.

-cf


On 01/07/2011 06:05 PM, Samuel Aparicio wrote:
 Is it known if Lustre 2.0 GA will run with 2.6.18-194.17.1.0.1.el5 
 kernels. The test matrix has only the 164 kernel as the latest tested.

 Professor Samuel Aparicio BM BCh PhD FRCPath
 Nan and Lorraine Robertson Chair UBC/BC Cancer Agency
 675 West 10th, Vancouver V5Z 1L3, Canada.
 office: +1 604 675 8200 cellphone: +1 604 762 5178: lab website 
 http://molonc.bccrc.ca http://molonc.bccrc.ca/






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