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2003-09-28 Thread Roman Turovsky
Dear e-friends, et e-amis,
I just added 2 more Renaissance Lute intabulations of Ukrainian folk-songs
at
http://polyhymnion.org/torban
Enjoy,
Amities,
RT





Re: willow song

2003-09-28 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Dick,

The song appears with four verses and lute accompaniment in
tablature in London, British Library, Add. MS 15117, fol. 18r. There
is a facsimile edition of this manuscript: Elise Bickford Jorgens
(ed.), _English Song 1600-1675_, 12 vols (New York: Garland
Publishing, 1986), vol. 1: British Library Manuscripts, Part 1. This
facsimile is probably out of print now, but you may be able to order
a copy through your library.

There will almost certainly be a modern edition, and with luck
someone on this list will be able to tell you.

Best wishes,

Stewart McCoy.


- Original Message -
From: richard BROOK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 11:10 AM
Subject: willow song


 I am interested in locating a version of the 'Willow Song' from (I
 believe) Othello, that has the verses and lute tablature. Any help
would
 be appreciated.

 Dick Brook[EMAIL PROTECTED]








Re: willow song

2003-09-28 Thread LGS-Europe
I believe you can find a facsimile at
http://www.silvius.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/willow.jpg

David


 I am interested in locating a version of the 'Willow Song' from (I
 believe) Othello, that has the verses and lute tablature. Any help would
 be appreciated.
 
 Dick Brook[EMAIL PROTECTED]




String cycles ...

2003-09-28 Thread Tim Mills

Does anyone know what phases or cycles a string goes through after being
pluck?  I notice when I use a tuner that the pitch changes over the life of
the note and my ear suggests the the tone does also. The obvious question is
where does the ear gravitate to in the note's life cycle?

Tim Mills
Denver




willow song

2003-09-28 Thread Arthur Ness (boston)
I may be mistaken but I believe F. W., Sternfeld, _Music in Shakespearean
Tragedy_ (London/New York, 1963)_ remains the best place to begin looking
for songs used in Shakespeare.  The Willow Song occupies pages 24-52 in the
book, with 5 or 6 versions including several with tabkature in facsimile.
The Sternfeld book is alos a vaulable reference tool because he has tracked
down original music for not only the tragedies, but the comedies and
histories as well (see Index I).

Another volume which I have never seen was assembled  y the late Andrew
Charlton for Garland Press then in NYC  It is said to be a practivcal
edition of the Sakespearean music.  I tried to get it reprinted, but the
Garland editor thought there would not be enough sales.  But it can be
found in libraries.  The Sternfeld is also probably OOP, but it will be in
many libraries.

This should get you started.  Perhaps Arnold Gessel will have something to
add.

ajn.




Re: willow song

2003-09-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 I believe you can find a facsimile at
 http://www.silvius.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/willow.jpg

that link is not found there. What a pity.

-- 
Cheers,

Mathias

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Re: String cycles ...

2003-09-28 Thread Ed Durbrow
Does anyone know what phases or cycles a string goes through after being
pluck?  I notice when I use a tuner that the pitch changes over the life of
the note and my ear suggests the the tone does also. The obvious question is
where does the ear gravitate to in the note's life cycle?

What excellent questions! It starts sharp and comes down. It depends 
how hard you hit it. To my ear, where the pitch is just after the 
initial attack is where it's tonal center is. Also, if you pluck 
softly it is a bit more stable.

I don't know about you, but when I try to tune my lute, it isn't a 
question of getting it perfect with regards to the tuner. With my 
tuner and pegs, if I can get within 5 cents, I feel it's as good as I 
can get it. I often just use an audible pitch and try to 'match' it 
but on either the sharp or flat side as need be (2nd  3rd course 
flat, 4th  5th sharp for meantone).

In fact I often wonder how in tune the old masters played. With their 
admonitions about false strings in the treatises and importing from 
far away countries, I really wonder what the state of the average 
lute's intonation was. I think string technology is absolutely the 
biggest question mark in lute revival: size of holes in bridges, 
colored strings, no extant string samples (there must be some 
somewhere!!!???).

By the way, I just got a 23 year old John Rollins A lute. The pegs 
are wonderfully smooth. I'm very happy with the instrument. Does 
anyone have contact info for John? I'd like to get his 
recommendations about total kg tension. Any recommendations for 
stringing this baby? It's 51 cm. I'm thinking all gut or all Nylgut. 
But what to do about the basses?
cheers,
-- 
Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/