Re: Friendly fire, music and cruelty to animals
Which is worse Alain, volume or Vogon poetry? I would hate to have to learn the answer g. Best, Jon
Re: Not a lot people know that.....
Tony, A phrase I learned when looking at the related languages was this; good butter and good cheese is good English and good Friese. Best, Jon
Re: Lute-to-guitar
Not bad Tom, but my great cat wouldn't be able to handle more than a Gerbil. Best, Jon
Re: Friendly fire, music and cruelty to animals
Bill, Not contentious at all, but perhaps inaccurate. You use the phrase the hoi polloi, which has an internal redundancy (I used to live in Greenwich Village - which translates as green village village). Hoi is the article the (although it is only the letters oi with the accent that puts the h sound on the omicron - polloi is many. (For purists, I don't have my computer font set up for Greek). But you make a point that could be assumed from some of the conversations on this list. I think you are wrong, however. I'll stick my neck out (as usual) and make the statement that the list members would be quite happy if lute music became popular with the polloi, as long as they listened to it. The problem with popular music is that the musical values disappear when the music becomes merely background, or something to shout to. Convince the populace to listen to Vivaldi, or to really hear a Gregorian chant (they became popular briefly a few years ago, but not for long as they weren't heard), then they might listen to the lute music. I think the great majority of the list members would love to have lute music appreciated by a wider public, but only if properly appreciated. It is a fond hope, but unlikely. It would be difficult to play the lute while bumping and grinding like Britney Spears (and it would cover her navel, ruining her entire appeal). Best, Jon
Fw: A pleasant day
I accidentally sent this to the Lute Society email rather than the Lute List, so I forward it to the List. Best, Jon - Original Message - From: Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:59 AM Subject: A pleasant day On Friday I drove to Moravian College in Bethlehem, PA. They had a classical guitar weekend set up (apparently they have a very active program). But I went on Friday as they had a Master Class with Ronn McFarlane. Not knowing what a master class was I went, knowing that I'm not a master (of the lute, at least - although I've mastered a few things in my many years - most of them not for publication). It turned out that Ronn was teaching the details of the performance to accomplished players, two on guitar and two on lute (but for the purists, one had a Theorbo). Only knowing him by his cover photo on The Scots Lute, and his name, I expected a burly Scotsman. What I got was a rather skinny American, but a man with an enthusiasm for the sound of the music that infused the audience (which was about ten of us). No ego performance here, a love of music so well ingrained that he became conductor. The opening student was on guitar, and Ronn helped well with the dynamics and attack. The second was Renaissance lute (and a bit of a note player, rather than the music). Same result. But the third was back to guitar, and I heard his piece and was wondering what Ronn could say. The dynamics and the technicals were excellent. But by the time Ronn finished with him they were better. Find the point to start the crescendo and diminuendo, don't follow the written word. It was a beautiful example of a fine ear for the music, build - don't jump. (Not his terms, mine, and they refer to the specific piece). The half hour round table turned out to be well over an hour, the man wouldn't quit (and he stuck me with a three hour drive home instead of two, as I hit the Friday night rush hour - but it was worth it). (And, for those of pure instincts, he rather liked my little flat back as a learning instrument - and blessed my construction - although I would guess that his comment it has a sweet sound was a polite way to say that it ain't quite the real thing, but it will do for starters). All in all, a pleasant day. And a pleasure to watch and hear a fine musician in close circumstances. It is often hard to judge from a concert as the performance is prepared. But when the musician picks up an instrument and expresses a phrase that he isn't prepared for, as a correction to another, then one hears the music. I make no statement that Ronn is HIP, how would I know. But his skills and enthusiasm for the music are a pleasure. (And, BTW, I didn't comment when he made the comparison between the Scots of Renaissance times and the French - believe it or not I wasn't ready to open my mouth - but that was a time when the Scots and the French were culturally very close, due to the exodus of the Scots nobility to France and back when Bonny Prince Charlie was killing himself in alcohol in exile). Enough, and some may say it was enough sooner. But for those who may enjoy the vicarious pleasant day I offer it. Best, Jon
Re: Not a lot people know that.....
American IS the equivalent for the rest of the world... greetings, danyel - Original Message -=20 From: Tony Chalkley=20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Bernd Haegemann=20 Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Not a lot people know that. Dear Bernd, From: Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. Where did you take the statement from? The Handbook of Astrology? Maybe you ought to have explained that for East-Friesian French = people should read Belgian, English people should read Irish, Iranians - = Qazvinis. Maybe someone else can fill us in about what the Belgians, Irish and Qazvinis should read, as well as, perhaps the American equivalent. Tony --
lute to guitar
Cheers Jon! Sadly I don't even have a cat, as I'm allergic to their fur. We tried, but had to take it back to the cattery after one day, as I came out in red spots all over. Best wishes Tom --
Eugene Onegin
As a few people have expressed an interest Eugene Onegin, the following link might be of use. http://www.dedalusbooks.com/catalog.php?id=0167s=1 Cheers Tom Beck --
Re: Friendly fire, music and cruelty to animals
Jon, Some of the music my daughters listens to sounds much like electrified Vogon poetry ... But they also enjoy the Baltimore consort and the Beatles. So that makes the balance, I guess Alain At 11:10 PM 5/17/2004, Jon Murphy wrote: Which is worse Alain, volume or Vogon poetry? I would hate to have to learn the answer g. Best, Jon
Re: Friendly fire, music and cruelty to animals
How was the band's name whose music one can only bear to listen when being on a different planet? Thomas Am Die, 2004-05-18 um 17.07 schrieb Alain Veylit: Jon, Some of the music my daughters listens to sounds much like electrified Vogon poetry ... But they also enjoy the Baltimore consort and the Beatles. So that makes the balance, I guess Alain At 11:10 PM 5/17/2004, Jon Murphy wrote: Which is worse Alain, volume or Vogon poetry? I would hate to have to learn the answer g. Best, Jon -- Thomas Schall Niederhofheimer Weg 3 D-65843 Sulzbach 06196/74519 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.lautenist.de / www.tslaute.de/weiss --
Re: Friendly fire, music and cruelty to animals
How was the band's name whose music one can only bear to listen when being on a different planet? Not quite that. In the interests of accuracy, from Douglas Adams' The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, chapter 17: Disaster Area, a plutonium rock band from the Gagracka Mind Zones, are generally held to be not only the loudest rock band in the Galaxy, but in fact the loudest noise of any kind at all. Regular concert goers judge that the best sound balance is usually to be heard from within large concrete bunkers some 37 miles from the stage, whilst the musicians themselves play their instruments by remote control from within a heavily insulated spaceship which stays in orbit around the planet -- or more frequently around a completely different planet. * * * Many worlds have now banned their act altogether, sometimes for artistic reasons, but most commonly because the band's public address system contravenes local strategic arms limitations treaties. Disaster Area was not in the original BBC radio Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I suppose it was substituted for the super-evolutionary Hagunenons, which would have been too difficult to do on television.
Re: Friendly fire, music and cruelty to animals
I got the information about the band from the book. Thanks for the correction! Thomas Am Die, 2004-05-18 um 18.38 schrieb Howard Posner: How was the band's name whose music one can only bear to listen when being on a different planet? Not quite that. In the interests of accuracy, from Douglas Adams' The Restaurant at the End of the Universe, chapter 17: Disaster Area, a plutonium rock band from the Gagracka Mind Zones, are generally held to be not only the loudest rock band in the Galaxy, but in fact the loudest noise of any kind at all. Regular concert goers judge that the best sound balance is usually to be heard from within large concrete bunkers some 37 miles from the stage, whilst the musicians themselves play their instruments by remote control from within a heavily insulated spaceship which stays in orbit around the planet -- or more frequently around a completely different planet. * * * Many worlds have now banned their act altogether, sometimes for artistic reasons, but most commonly because the band's public address system contravenes local strategic arms limitations treaties. Disaster Area was not in the original BBC radio Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. I suppose it was substituted for the super-evolutionary Hagunenons, which would have been too difficult to do on television. -- Thomas Schall Niederhofheimer Weg 3 D-65843 Sulzbach 06196/74519 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.lautenist.de / www.tslaute.de/weiss --
liederkreis
I have a new Schubert/Matthison item (13-course, for those interested) at http://polyhymnion.org/lieder/lieder.html RT
Hasenfuss
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Lute and viol
Dear all, I wonder if any of you could provide some info about = English pieces for lute and viola da gamba of late XVIth century and = early XVIIth. Thanks very much. Saludos from Sevilla, Ariel. --
tid-bits
Help needed in identification of a triple-swan-neck lute at the bottom of http://polyhymnion.org/swv/vita.html Anyone? RT
baroque guitar + bandura
Is anyone familiar with instruments by 1785 Rafael Vallego of Granada, such as seen in Chapter III at http://polyhymnion.org/torban ??? RT
Re: Lute and viol
Tobias Hume would be a point to start. He says his music (in Poeticall Musicke 1605) can be played in 8 different combinations, including 2 lutes and basse viole. Dear all, I wonder if any of you could provide some info about = English pieces for lute and viola da gamba of late XVIth century and = early XVIIth. Thanks very much. Saludos from Sevilla, Ariel. -- -- Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
